ARB Snatch Block

[tonyci]

Hi
I have a Tifor 516 which I intend to use with my Defender if I have the unfortunate need to winch myself out of trouble.

I was looking at replacing my tree protector snatch strap as they are quite old and have been used a few times over the years on various vehicles.

What do you think of the ARB or similar recovery kits ?, I would think the snatch strap, tree protector would be ok providing I get the right size. But what about their snatch blocks would I be better off going to a specialist such as bullivants nobles etc.
Any comments welcome.
Cheers
Tony

[Aaron IIA]

Do you intend to use a snatch strap as a tree protector? It is not quite clear.

Aaron

[tonyci]

Short Answer No.
Ok sorry not clear. I intend to replace my snatch strap and tree protector and buy a snatch block. Thus why I looked at the ARB recovery kits, just not sure if the snatch block included is ok for the wire rope of the Tifor or should I buy a snatch block from a nobles, Bullivants etc.
Tony

[crash]

ARB snatch block is okay in my mind.
Only ever needed it a handful of times.

I purchased my last tree trunk protector from Nobles - at the time it was the best value and rated higher than any of the well known competitors.

[Tank]

Short Answer No.
Ok sorry not clear. I intend to replace my snatch strap and tree protector and buy a snatch block. Thus why I looked at the ARB recovery kits, just not sure if the snatch block included is ok for the wire rope of the Tifor or should I buy a snatch block from a nobles, Bullivants etc.
Tony
You need to buy a snatch block with the suitable groove width for your Tirfor cable, measure your tirfor cable (across the widest points), most snatch blocks from 4WD outlets are made for winch cable which is usually 10/11mm dia or less.
I think your Tirfor cable maybe 12 to 13mm. in dia. and will need the right size groove, too small will pinch the cable and too wide will flatten it out, both will damage the cable.
I would advise you take your Tirfor cable along to Bullivants (or other rigging supply shop) and get the correct size groove pulley for your wire, if you can afford it buy the largest practical diameter pulley as it will do less damage to the cable than the commonly available snatch block pulley.
Your Tirfor cable is a 7 strand cable and fairly stiff so the bigger the diameter of the pulley will prolong the life of your cable over the smaller commonly available snatch block pulley, you will probably find rigging gear to be cheaper than most 4WD outlets, Regards Frank.

[weeds]

A tirfor and a snatch block.......that would be snails pace recovery

[austastar]

A tirfor and a snatch block.......that would be snails pace recovery

Yes, but in any direction.

Cheers

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[weeds]

Yes, but in any direction.

Cheers

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Yep...good in theory although I cannot afford the space they take up and touch wood I haven't had the need to recover or need side support

[Slunnie]

Yes, but in any direction.

Cheers
And only once before buying a power winch for the front, rear, both sides and a bag of snatch straps so that you never have to winch like that again.

[austastar]

Hi, Very true.

There we were, nice camp, lovely flat grassy area.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/160.jpg

When it decided to rain for the rest of the day and all night.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/161.jpg

I'm just so glad I had the Runva up front.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/162.jpg

I had two pulls at full extension.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/163.jpg

That would not have been fun.

Cheers

[Slunnie]

That sinking feeling as the rain settles in.

That would have been fun trying to get the caravan out too!

[tonyci]

Thanks good advice Tank.
Weeds yeh I know, its only to use as a last resort. If I buy a power winch would then more then likely have to beef up front springs, it then becomes expensive sweat is cheaper.
Cheers
Tony

[101RRS]

Weigh the Tirfor, cable and other bits and pieces and compare with a 9000lb winch and rope - I think you will find they are very similar.

[Stuart02]

That weight isn't hanging out in front of the front wheels though, and the tirfor can pull in any direction. There's an argument for both.
Wouldn't a hand winch with rope rather than cable be great.

[Tank]

Weigh the Tirfor, cable and other bits and pieces and compare with a 9000lb winch and rope - I think you will find they are very similar.
Don't forget to include the weight of an Auxillary battery and the fact that a power winch is as far forward as it can get.
Though I wouldn't go bush without one, Regards Frank.

[101RRS]

Don't forget to include the weight of an Auxillary battery

While there may be other considerations weight wise, the weight of an axillary battery would not normally be a consideration.

Usually (but not always) the aux battery will be some type of deep cycle battery and not suited for winch use. Mostly (and again not always) the winch is powered by the main starter battery not an additional battery.

But I do accept there may be variations.

Cheers

Garry

[Homestar]

Back to the OP'a original question, the ARB recovery kit is a good bit of gear - the snatch block is good quality - mine mainly gets used for winching the caravan up my driveway. :D. I bought an ARB kit for my Birthday a couple of years back. It hasn't been used much, but it's easy to chuck in the back of whichever vehicle I'm in.

[Tank]

While there may be other considerations weight wise, the weight of an axillary battery would not normally be a consideration.

Usually (but not always) the aux battery will be some type of deep cycle battery and not suited for winch use. Mostly (and again not always) the winch is powered by the main starter battery not an additional battery.

But I do accept there may be variations.

Cheers

Garry
Handy to have a spare battery up front when winching for long periods at night, can always get a start out of the auxillary battery (deep cycle), have a swith on my Redarc system to start the motor if the main starter battery (which powers the winch alone) decides to have a rest, came in very handy on last recovery job on Mericumbene and Dry Creek F/T's, 17 hours total, probably 5 hours of winching a fully loaded Holden Captiva that had wrapped his metal fuel tank around his tail-shaft.
Amazing he got as far as he did, had no idea of the damage he'd done, car was a write off, Regards Frank.

[austastar]

Wouldn't a hand winch with rope rather than cable be great.


Wyeth-Scott.com make a nice one.



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[Blknight.aus]

The ARB pully is sized for the the wire rope on their winches, Measure that and compare to your tirfor rope so long as your rope is not too much smaller and no larger then you'll be fine with it.

Tirfors have more than one acceptable rope size, so when its time to replace the cable if you have a pully and its rope size is within range of the tirfor grab that size cable.