ABS, ETC & HDC lights on - what the?

[Fish]

Of course my 01 D2 is just out of warranty. I have ABS, ETC and HDC lights on the dash that come up from start up. After a quick talk with the Land Rover (Ford dealer) up here in Cairns he is throwing around prices in the area of $6000. :cry: He also wants to charge me $150 just to plug the thing into the computer for a diagnostic. Is that too much? Any one had this problem before and it not be the ABS modulator. Also they tell me it is a non serviceable part, I just can't belive that. What do you guys think?

[johnv]

Mate, if you want to part with that kind of dosh go for it but you would be getting ripped off in a big way

It could be just a wheel sensor.

If you do need an abs modulator, I purchased a 2004 second hand one for $350 from the USA ( ebay ). If you want the name of this mob then PM me.

You can buy brand new for the UK for about 1200 pounds or you can find second hand in aust for between 1-2 K.

I have heard of some people repairing them and I have heard of some people fixing the issue by having their fluids power flushed.

You do need to have you car connectec to a test book computer to powerflush or install the modulator to enable all potential air to be removed.

There are plenty of posts about this issue. Have a look. You will get alot of useful information.

[siegucci]

Fish
How long has your vehicle been out of warranty?
A dealer can submit a "goodwill" claim if your services have been done at LR dealers.
A 6000.-- part has to be a modulator, the fault code was probably "shuttle valve switch failure". Nothing you can do to fix it, the modulators are a sealed unit and can not be serviced.
Experiences with second hand ones weren't very good, such a unit can cause more trouble than you already have.
Go back to your dealer and ask them to submit a goodwill claim.

[p38arover]

Originally posted by siegucci
A 6000.-- part has to be a modulator, the fault code was probably "shuttle valve switch failure".

But the dealer hasn't put the car on Testbook (he wants to charge $150 to do so) - so the fault code is still unknown.

I bought a second hand ABS unit for my P38A from Don Radke in Cairns. He sells second hand Land Rover parts.
Email d-aradke@bigpond.net.au

Ron

[eckolsim]

Fish,

It sounds like your dealer is abusing you for being in an isolated market.
My local LR dealer does not charge for reading test codes or resetting ABS faults on the computer as he reckons no matter what, you can't be sure you have fixed it.

Do you have access to a workshop manula CD ROM? (RAVE)

Regards

[DRS]

I have recently started to experience the same problem on my 01 Disco TD5 auto.
I had front and rear brakes replaced about three weeks ago. The next day went up to Lake lyall and carried out some water crossing.
Soon after noticed the Abs, TC and HDC lights to come on.
Thought I might have got a connection some where wet.
It has continued for the past three weeks intermittently. Now
i am thinking it could be a ABS sensor. Any suggestions.

[siegucci]

Are they genuine parts?
Aftermarket brake rotors and pads can cause brake squeal or vibrations that upset the sensor readings due to the harmonics travelling up the sensor.
Get your vehicle on TestBook and see what fault is logged in the ABS unit. If the fault is "sensor signal erratic", aftermarket brakes could be the cause. If the fault is "sensor open circuit" or "electrical fault", the sensor might be faulty. Don't throw a sensor on it just for the hell of it, get it checked out.

[DRS]

Thanks for the quick reply Siegucci.
GCA replaced all the brakes recently. I will get get on the blower and check it out.
Cheers

[british4wd]

To test the wheel speed sensors, ABS sensors on a S2 Disco is very easy.
Locate the sensor lead were it comes out of the hub and trace the lead back to it's plug, disconnect the plug. Inside the plug of the sensor you will see two female sockets, connect to these sockets with an ohm meter or if you do not have one a test light.. Starting from the wheel hub wiggle the lead and watch to see if the meter goes to open circuit or if using a test light watch for the lamp to flicker or go out., if this happens then the sensor lead is faulty and will have to be replaced.
Unfortunately the lead is only supplied with the complete hub assembly.

Alan Howard

[tracker]

ok,had same prob with00disco auto.b4 spending big bucks disconnect batt for about 20mins and reconnect. solved MY prob but make sure you have the radio code.
cheers tr

[p38arover]

But the dealer hasn't put the car on Testbook (he wants to charge $150 to do so) - so the fault code is still unknown.

I bought a second hand ABS unit for my P38A from Don Radke in Cairns. He sells second hand Land Rover parts.
Email d-aradke@bigpond.net.au

Ron

How many Don Radke's in Cairns? This name come up quite a lot in tonight's Four Corners!

[Scouse]

Hmm, no wonder I haven't seem him on eBay recently. He must have other things on his mind.

[omvanders]

Before I settled on the 98 D1 I had been looking at an early D2. That vehicle had the dreaded 3 amigos, and so I enquired with TRS about a replacement ABS Module (in the worst case scenario that that was the problem rather than sensors, etc).
I seem to recall that they quoted me around $1500, but the interesting thing was that they said the replacement unit was best gotten out of a D3, and that would greatly reduce the likelihood of recurrence.

[trev]

A wheel hub bearing that has excessive end-float due to wear can also be a cause of this.
It sends an error message recording air-gap error.

Trev.

[strangy]

A couple of things to try without needing your dealer.
Check out the Good Oil.

Ensure ignition is off!

1/ Behind the Left headlight between the Air Filter box, are two Earth points. These are for the ABS Modulator. Pull them off and clean them, then use a little Lanolin and refit them. There is another earth point inside on the left footwell for the SLABS computer. Do likewise to this.

2/ Remove the multi pin plug on the ABS module and clean both plugs with Contact Cleaner, fit it a couple of times to ensure your contacts are clean.
(There is a great section on checking continuity across these pins if you have the ability).

3/ Clean brake fluid makes a difference to these things, so if it has not been changed at proper intervals this may contribute.

Cheers

Mark

[stevo]

I have been successfull in repairing my modulator on my 99 disco and no more lights almost miss the cheerful little note and the three lights (only kidding) glad they no longer haunt the dash.