Just been done for speeding - 67 in a 40 zone

[LRHybrid100]

G'day Guys,

Angry as hell, just been done for speeding 67 in a 40 zone.

Anyone have any links to website on how to disput it????

LRH

[DEFENDERZOOK]

did you get pulled over or was it a camera.....?

[LRHybrid100]

here is the details:

After 9am Pacific Highway - normally a 60 zone, but as there is a High School close by so its drops to a 40 Zone - bastards.

Don't get me wrong, fully agree with school zones and I am one of those drivers that flash other driver in my village to slow down, but outside High Schools on Pacific HIGHWAY after 9am???

Surely all the kids should be at school by 9am???
How can a Highway be reduced to such a walking pace???
And if the not so little bastards at High schools cannot work out that is a road then quite frankly they should not be at school!!!

END of rant!!!

LRH

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">and in short the answer to my question was........</span>

[Steinzy]

I hear ya!

I don't think you'll be able to get off the fine though :evil:

[LRHybrid100]

Originally posted by DEFENDERZOOK
did you get pulled over or was it a camera.....?

pulled over, sorry was writing the other rant when you posted

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">pulled over theres not much you can do.....
well not that i know of anyway.....


sorry...cant help...</span>

[tombraider]

Sorry mate, nothing you can do.... Your gone!

Been there, done that.... Back in the day so to speak.

I got done once 110km/h in a 25 km/h zone. Huge fine and loss of license.

Sounds bad until you realise it was highway roadworks sign, west of Kimba, 1 am, nobody around (except the cop in the patrol car).

They had finishes road works in the arvo and left the damn sign there, in the dark I hadnt noticed it, but the cop knew! He'd been sitting waiting for trucks etc and instead bagged a hi-po ford! 8O

Suppose it could have been worse, had been coming over the Bight at over 170km/h for most of the day :twisted:

Like I said, that was back in the day.... Now I'm content to just cruise the limits... (man, what am I saying) :wink:

Cheers
Mike

[LRHybrid100]

thought there was a story on on of those crap shows 60 mins / ACA etc that any radar etc had to be used under perfect conditions???

Perfect conditions according to the manufacturers was straight road, no incline and no vehciles in front of you etc???

LRH

[hiline]

i've got a better one for you :evil: :evil: :evil:

got booked a month or so ago for speeding :oops: :oops:

65k's in 60K ZONE

less the variations of speed and so on as they put it :roll:

so i real terms i got booked for doing 1k over the speed limit :evil: :evil: :evil:

$125 fine :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil: :twisted:

[Slunnie]

Which school was it outside? I just ask, as all of the 40km/h zones no doubt are still being monitored, though my school broke up for Xmas almost a week ago. If the kids aren't there there isnt, then for that school it isn't a "school day".

[LRHybrid100]

Originally posted by Slunnie
Which school was it outside? I just ask, as all of the 40km/h zones no doubt are still being monitored, though my school broke up for Xmas almost a week ago. If the kids aren't there there isnt, then for that school it isn't a "school day".

Good point - didnt see any of the little bastard around!!!

BTW it was Asquith Boys? I think

LRH

[LRHybrid100]

its not the money really, its the points on my licence as I have never had any points in 15 years of driving!!! AND used to travel much quicker than I do now!!!

with the points effect my car insurance?

LRH

[crump]

just a query on the same topic for Queenslanders, how much over the limit do we have to be in this state for instant loss of licence, and has anyone a breakdown of the fine system, like how much for each section over the limit.

[Ace]

Originally posted by LRHybrid100
its not the money really, its the points on my licence as I have never had any points in 15 years of driving!!! AND used to travel much quicker than I do now!!!

with the points effect my car insurance?

LRH

It shouldnt affect your insurance. My speeding fines didnt, and i had two, one was reduced to a caution.

From a can they book me at that time point of view you dont have a leg to stand on, the zones are in force until 9:30, and 4:00 in the arvo. As you said a total load of crap most schools, especially highschools are in by 9 at the latest.

What i would do- given your history LRH write a letter asking for leniency based on your previous driving record. If you havent had any other infringements in 15 years you should get away with it. I got done for 80 in a 60 at uni and wrote a letter, they reduced it to a caution after taking my previous record into consideration, that was my first fine. Write a nice letter saying that it was an unfortunate mistake, and that speeding is something you do not approved, which is evident by your record and ask that you be granted leniency. It works, trust me, but only on your first fine in a long time, 15 years orta do it. Matt

[FenianEel]

Originally posted by crump
just a query on the same topic for Queenslanders, how much over the limit do we have to be in this state for instant loss of licence, and has anyone a breakdown of the fine system, like how much for each section over the limit.

OK Crump,

In boring excrutiating detail got to:
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/LTASinf...nt_Offences.pdf (http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/LTASinfo.nsf/ReferenceLookup/Demerit_Point_Offences.pdf/$file/Demerit_Point_Offences.pdf)

But 40k's over you're in deep doo doo & will get a court appearance ans well as 8 points

[crump]

Ferrkkk!!! better sell the bike and buy another Defender, last trip to BrissyI did 3 hours at 40 over.

[WOLLAPIT85]

Originally posted by LRHybrid100
- normally a 60 zone LRH


You would have been done anyway.

[LRHybrid100]

Originally posted by WOLLAPIT85+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(WOLLAPIT85)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-LRHybrid100
- normally a 60 zone LRH


You would have been done anyway.[/b][/quote]

pretty sure I could have got away with 67 in a 60 in Sydney.

LRH

[Scouse]

Originally posted by LRHybrid100

pretty sure I could have got away with 67 in a 60 in Sydney.

LRHGotten away with it !!!
You would have been abused for going so slow :twisted: .

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[UncleHo]

G'day LRH100
In Qld, the School Speed Signs have times at the bottom I.E 7.30am-9.00am 2.30pm-3.30pm check if it has any they check the time on your "Swindle-Sheet" if it is 9.03--05 you can claim the fuzz's watch was wrong https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ or if the sign was in anyway obscured you can claim that you didn't see it because you sneezed "ACT OF GOD" https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :roll: 8) It has worked for me a couple of times, once through a stop light on a motor bike in William street on my way up the Cross a lifetime ago :oops:

There is nothing more embarrassing than being done for 67 in a 60k zone in a 1968 Series 2a by a local cop that knows ypou and your vehicle :oops: , That's where the "ROCKET" came from :oops: :oops: Incisor's sense of humour :twisted: :roll:

[JDNSW]

Originally posted by LRHybrid100
here is the details:

(snip)
How can a Highway be reduced to such a walking pace???
(snip)

LRH

There are highways throughout country NSW cut back to 50kph starting half a kilometre outside of each one horse town. I noticed driving round the outskirts of Sydney on Monday that much more heavily built up roads there are all 60kph - too many voters there I suppose.

The 50kph was originally supposed to be for residential areas, but has been applied in many places to major highways.

[tombraider]

There is a contentious issue here in SA too.
The school zones run 365 and 24/7

A person under the age of 18 is considered a child (how you tell who knows) but if they are in the zone then you do 25....

This is every day of the year no exceptions.

Cheers
Mike

[seqfisho]

If only they put the revenue raised from the school zone fines into educating kids about the road rules and dangers of traffic it would make sense. :?

[hiline]

Originally posted by seqfisho
If only they put the revenue raised from the school zone fines into educating kids about the road rules and dangers of traffic it would make sense. :?

yes but its not revenue raising, its speed control :roll: :wink:

[WOLLAPIT85]

They could try and put the revenue into the crappy state of the
NSW roads too. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[hiline]

Originally posted by WOLLAPIT85
They could try and put the revenue into the crappy state of the
NSW roads too. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

oh my what a low blow that was https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

maybe it wouldn't have broken the trailer either :wink:

[WOLLAPIT85]

But it is true, is it not..

[FenianEel]

Originally posted by seqfisho
If only they put the revenue raised from the school zone fines into educating kids about the road rules and dangers of traffic it would make sense. :?

C'mon GET REAL :evil: :evil:
Not this old chestnut again!!!!

Next thing you'll want politicians to work all year. :twisted:
Or stop having overseas "study"trips.
Or Road safety to be about road safety - not revenue :twisted:

Well I for one won't stand for it.
Not 1/2 hr ago, there were two peelers with a radar (shoulder held), standing , behind overhanging bushes, on the road at highagate hill, and parked in a no standing zone between a bus stop and a pedestrian crossing!
Good work I say. Don't attempt to slow people down, just nick 'em and give em a bill. God knows we've all got loads of cash, because we aren't taxed enough.....
Why shouldn't we pay some peeler $50k to sit in a big TOJO all day reading the paper and occasionally checkng his camera?

OK I'll stop before I have an anurism and someone misinterprets my sarcasm!!! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[p38arover]

I agree, LRH, there are too many instances od school zones on highways. The path outside the school should be fenced for that 100 metres.

The worst is Penannt Hills Rd. Kings school is a huge property so the school zone goies forever - then you get to the next school.

The 40 km/h zone along that road must go for nearly 2 km.

Ron

[tombraider]

Careful!!! A certain forum member is a live in teacher at that school!!!

And I've never known him shy for a bit of spirited driving ;-)

Hey birthday boy!

Cheers
Mike

[Maggot4x4]

To play devils advocate, had he been a more diligent driver, and carefully read all 500 road signs that they put up in for a 10km trip, it wouldn't have happened.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :wink:

[Ace]

Originally posted by hiline+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hiline)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-WOLLAPIT85
They could try and put the revenue into the crappy state of the
NSW roads too. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

oh my what a low blow that was https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

maybe it wouldn't have broken the trailer either :wink:[/b][/quote]

Its not a low blow if we all agree.

















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[Disco300Tdi]

Move over Chapelle, you have a room mate https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[hiline]

Originally posted by WOLLAPIT85
But it is true, is it not..


sure is https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/



and ace stick your beer where the sun dont shine :evil: :evil:

or does it 8O https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :wink:

[VladTepes]

A copper got booked recently for parking infringment for parking hios &*^*%* speed camera in a bus zone all day. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

LRH in answer to your original question:

A story about a mob called "Speeding Fine Consultants"

http://www.extraonline.com.au/story/detail...sp?StoryID=9525 (http://www.extraonline.com.au/story/details.asp?StoryID=9525)

also

http://seven.com.au/todaytonight/story/?id=22256
and
http://seven.com.au/todaytonight/story/?id=14508

also

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/stories/1697.asp



This is interesting:

http://www.zipworld.com.au/~verysoft/speeding/

[Ace]

Originally posted by hiline+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hiline)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-WOLLAPIT85
But it is true, is it not..


sure is https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/



and ace stick your beer where the sun dont shine :evil: :evil:

or does it 8O https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :wink:[/b][/quote]

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[one_iota]

A few observations:

1. LRH hard luck mate you were caught because the enforcers were there at the same time as you. Many others weren't.

2. The school zones are determined by the RTA and the Police enforce them (in other words don't blame the cops for doing their job)

3. Happy birthday Slunnie? https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

I'll leave judgements about NSW roads and NSW beer to the (Mexican) experts :wink:

[p38arover]

LRH, was the cop mobile and travelling behind you or coming the other way? I understood that they can't check your speed if coming the other way - even with radar.

Ron

[LRHybrid100]

stationary, hiding in the school car park :cry:

LRH

[gruntfuttock]

http://www.aulro.com/albums/Gruntfuttock/speeding_001.jpg

[Steinzy]

Now I don't think they would let that pass as an excuse - but I'd like to see what would happen if you tried :twisted:

[Slunnie]

Originally posted by tombraider+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tombraider)</div><div class='quotemain'>Careful!!! A certain forum member is a live in teacher at that school!!!

And I've never known him shy for a bit of spirited driving ;-)

Hey birthday boy!

Cheers
Mike[/b]
Sounds like a hoon. :twisted:
<!--QuoteBegin-one_iota
3. Happy birthday Slunnie? https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ [/quote]
Doh!
Thanks one_iota! How the hell did you guess that! 8O https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

That long stretch of 40 zone out the front on Pennant Hills Rd is a combination of schools, although a lot of it is Kings School. We're on holidays now though, so the 40 part wont be an issue for a while. BTW, the cops sit in the bus stop at our gate northbound regularly and book people as they come around the corner through the cement dividers.

[Maggot4x4]

Originally posted by Slunnie+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Slunnie)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by tombraider@
Careful!!! A certain forum member is a live in teacher at that school!!!

And I've never known him shy for a bit of spirited driving ;-)

Hey birthday boy!

Cheers
Mike
Sounds like a hoon. :twisted:
<!--QuoteBegin-one_iota
3. Happy birthday Slunnie? https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Doh!
Thanks one_iota! How the hell did you guess that! 8O https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

That long stretch of 40 zone out the front on Pennant Hills Rd is a combination of schools, although a lot of it is Kings School. We're on holidays now though, so the 40 part wont be an issue for a while. BTW, the cops sit in the bus stop at our gate northbound regularly and book people as they come around the corner through the cement dividers.[/b][/quote]

Happy 32nd https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Steinzy]

Happy Birthday :wink:

[gruntfuttock]

Happy Bithday Slunnie!

[Slunnie]

"Thanks for all of the kind wishes.
Sorry about the hijack :oops:

Looking at the 40 zone P38Rover, it starts with Redeemer Baptist School, Burnside Public, The Kings School, A Bible College, The American School and then James Ruse Ag College. It's a few km's long alright!

[p38arover]

Originally posted by Slunnie
Looking at the 40 zone P38Rover, it starts with Redeemer Baptist School, Burnside Public, The Kings School, A Bible College, The American School and then James Ruse Ag College. It's a few km's long alright!

I don't suppose many from Kings go by foot - so why the 40 km/h zone along its full length.

LRH, I don't have school age kids so I have no idea when school holidays are in effect, or if it is a school day. With shift work, I even lose track of the days.

All of the signs should have flashing lights to warn motorists (some do).

Ron

[Slunnie]

Lots of them from Kings go by foot, especially down along Bettington Rd. During those times there are a lot from Tara (which is down the back) up on Pennant Hills Rd also.

[DiscoTDI]

There is one avenue to go down, go and get the Australian standards on radar/laser usage. This will give you a run down on what conditions they are meant to be used under, If they have gone outside the conditions and you can prove it you will win the case. Just remember the word prove it is a very shakey word in legal terms :wink:

[DiscoTDI]

Oh and happy birthday Slunnie :wink:

[Slunnie]

Hey, thanks DiscoTDI https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[abaddonxi]

All of them should have flashing lights, survey done by RTA showed something like 95% compliance with flashing lights, and very low with no lights.

Cheers
Simon

[Yabbie]

Bloody lead footed whinging POM's next you'll want the bloody ashes ...oops :cry:

Unfortunately mate the crackleback (so named because thats the sound a cockroach makes when you step on it :twisted: ) gotcha :evil:

My understanding is that they set their radars up to allow for the 10% margin of error in speedo's to prevent undue court apperances.

School zones suck as a courier I have to watch out for them everyday so as not to get caught out. My way of making sure there is no kojak with a hair dryer in your path is to watch the traffic in front everyone speeding or not brakes when the see boys in blue. Watch out for the others braking for what appears to be no reason and sure enough, some where you'll spot the donut eating flat footed revenue raisin' crackleback just be sure to smile and wave as you drive past, royal salute of course :twisted:

What ever happen to survival of the fittest seems to me all those dumb kids who don't know how to cross the road get to live a little longer :roll: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[CraigE]

I know how you feel. If school is not in - holidays then the 40kph does not apply except in SA. I got done on the Duke doing 122 in a 110 zone. It did not matter that the rest of the traffic was doing 120-130 it was pick the red Ducati as normal. Good example I was coming out of Boulder heading home to Kambalda and doing 60kph (speed limit), the bacon roll does a u turn and follows me for 5-7 kms. I was on the speed limit so no drama for me. Heres the clanger, the car in front of me was accellerating away from me in the 60, 70 and 90 kph zones by at least 15-20kph and the pork trotters just ignored that and followed me. I dont mind them getting tough on serious offences but a couple of kms over the limit or 5-10kms over on an open road is a joke. :evil: :evil:

[Maggot4x4]

Missus got done doing 100 in an 80 last night, but let her off on the 110 in a 60 :roll: :twisted: :evil:

[Redback]

Originally posted by Slunnie+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Slunnie)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by tombraider@
Careful!!! A certain forum member is a live in teacher at that school!!!

And I've never known him shy for a bit of spirited driving ;-)

Hey birthday boy!

Cheers
Mike
Sounds like a hoon. :twisted:
<!--QuoteBegin-one_iota
3. Happy birthday Slunnie? https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Doh!
Thanks one_iota! How the hell did you guess that! 8O https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

That long stretch of 40 zone out the front on Pennant Hills Rd is a combination of schools, although a lot of it is Kings School. We're on holidays now though, so the 40 part wont be an issue for a while. BTW, the cops sit in the bus stop at our gate northbound regularly and book people as they come around the corner through the cement dividers.[/b][/quote]

Bastards, oh and happy birthday ya old bugger you https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

A Sagie like me eh https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Slunnie]

Only the finest. Happy Birthday!

[Michael2]

Is it a fine, or loss of licence in NSW?

Are you intending to contest it?

With camera infringments in Vic, if you have a clean slate and write a letter, expressing remorse and asking for leniency you get off. They keep a 7 year record and you can do it once. I've done it twice now at 8 year interval (it's not often a SIII goes fast).

You could try an apolegetic letter, showing that the error was inadvertant, stating that you normally take care, and that this is reflected by your otherwise clear driving history. Ask if they could extend some leneinecy to you in this matter.

If you decide to fight it in court, then you better get some other advice, but as a point of interest, the paramedic representative on the Vic. Road Safety Committee (which introduced the 40kph school zone limits here) strongly argued that the 40kph limit would increase the risk severe accident in school zones which were on highways. His common sense and real life experience were outvoted by the ignorant majority.

IMHO slower speeds increase the incidence of pedestrian trauma. No one walks out blindly (except the drunk) onto a busy highway, but where there is a perception that a section of road is a pedestrian zone, then people let down their guard. That's why so many kids get run over in courts and quiet streets, they think there'll be no cars and less care is exercised. When I drove 4WDs in a snow resort, the same oblivious pedestrian mentality existed there, I'd be driving down a steep road (in ruts - hence no steering), and if I applied brakes the L/Cruiser would turn into a toboggan, but people still walked straight out in front of the the car, with their skis over their shoulder, totally oblivious because there was the pervasive impression that the resort was a pedestrian zone.

If you end up taking this to the High Court, you could argue that the 40kph concept is dangerous and that (check local legislation - I'm quoting Victorian examples) the Road Safety Act, over rides Road Rules, as the former is a law and the others are rules. And that your manner of driving was safe in the circumstances, and that slowing to 40kph would have increased the risk of an accident, given the pervading traffic conditions. You would have to argue against a Police Officer who was an expert witness on those conditions, so I don't like your chances.

Good luck with the leniency thing.

[abaddonxi]

Originally posted by Michael2
strongly argued that the 40kph limit would increase the risk severe accident in school zones which were on highways. His common sense and real life experience were outvoted by the ignorant majority.

IMHO slower speeds increase the incidence of pedestrian trauma. No one walks out blindly (except the drunk) onto a busy highway, but where there is a perception that a section of road is a pedestrian zone, then people let down their guard.


Hi,

Two problems with yoru argument.

One, a car travelling at 40kmh takes about 20m to stop. A car travelling at 60kmh takes about 45m to stop.

Two, Drunks stagger out into the road, and children stagger out into the road, Kids, particularly when they are in groups don't have the ability to judge the consequences of their actions. Same as drunk people.

I agree that school zones on highways are a problem, particluarly the one on Great Western Highway at Faulconbridge - 80kmh zone to 40kmh zone.

The other problem with the areas around schools is that no matter how many no stopping signs you put up, parents are going to pull up and double park, and sometimes triple park to pick up and drop off their kids.

Imagine the alternative, separate pit lanes to divide through traffic and stopping traffic. For every school, so that the government doesn't get blamed for the possible accident at that one school where the decision was made not to make up pit lanes.

NSW state government isn't even willing to spend the cash to install flashing lights so that those of us who can't tell the time know when to slow down.

School zones are a cheap way to look like you're doing something.

I think the question we should be asking is - have they been successful? I haven't seen any statistics.

Cheers
Simon

[Grizzly_Adams]

Originally posted by abaddonxi
One, a car travelling at 40kmh takes about 20m to stop. A car travelling at 60kmh takes about 45m to stop.


.. and the problem with that argument is

A) you're talking in a straight line, with ABS systems you can "steer" the car whilst braking under extreme conditions.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ the driver should be paying attention to the road and surrounding details, instead atm the main detail people are paying attention to is their speedometer to make sure they aren't going over 40kmh, and hence are in fact paying less attention to the road and it's surrounds

I must admit though I have not seen statistics on school zones having any effect (positive or negative) except increasing the areas where police can fine you for speeding. Plenty of studies and write-ups on how speed & red-light cameras often increase the accidents on roads though :-)

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">and back in the days of real cars with steel bumperbars....no abs....
no power steering....no pedestrian friendly anything.....

you know...back when we all went to school....?


how many people were getting run over then compared to now.....
there wasnt even a 40kph zone......</span>

[Michael2]

The argument against 40kph zones on a major highway, by the person on the committee was that a sudden and drastic change in speed limits [80 or 100 down to 40] was that one inadvertant action my a semitrailer driver could wipe out a large number of people. Given that inadvertant inattention to speed limits does occur, then these zones pose a major risk of a catastrophic accident occuring on high speed limit roads. His argument was that there should be service roads, or on site parking where schools were located on major highways to avoid such a risk.

My argument didn't have to do with where, or how speed limits were imposed, but was a reflection on the mentality of pedestrians where areas are percieved as being "pedestrian safe". In these cases the Mechanism of Injury (a term used to described the type and kind of force applied to a victim) is reduced by reducing the speed limit - no doubt. But the risk of an incident occuring in the first place is increased because the mindset created reduces pedestrian diligence.

To illustrate, when you next drive down a narrow street, notice that you are looking well ahead, you can see what's turning into the street further up, you notice any kids momentarily running out of driveways and back, you know where all the parked cars are. Then when you drive down a narrow street with a series of speed humps, notice how your attention is drawn to the foreground to overcome each obstacle. You are less likely to be as aware as before (this will vary depending on the kind of person/driver you are). As your gaze looks down to overcome the obstacle at hand, you might miss the glimpse of a child playing near a driveway, or a wheel chair moving slowly behind a parked car. Your risk of an accident increases, but the Mechanism of Injury decreases, because you are going slower.

In a 40 zone, cars bunch up, moving your gaze to the foreground, and to your speedo. Awareness of what is on the footpath decreases, so risk increases, but the force with which your car will impact, decreases.

[incisor]

I went for a drive up to gympie on saturday and half the cars on the road were police...

they were pulling people over left right and centre for speeding and other stupid behaviour, like it was the national sport.

i made it up to Gladstonbury for a look without being pulled over and after giving the campground the once over i started the return journey.

just south of gympie one fool went past me doing 140kph + i estimate... and over the rise coming the other way was one of those new red monaro highway patrol cars... it slammed the brakes on, does a handbrakey in front of me and my disco doing 105kph, and nearly wore me. Bloody lucky i had just had the brakes done https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

it took off after the clown and pulls him over about 4 or 5 mile up the road. As i drove past the officer gives me a wave and gestures he is sorry for the ruckus he greated back up the road...

those monaro's certainly have some tow i have to say.... and the guy doing the speeding will be licenceless i imagine.

[Ace]

Originally posted by p38arover
LRH, was the cop mobile and travelling behind you or coming the other way? I understood that they can't check your speed if coming the other way - even with radar.

Ron

They can get you in any direction front or rear, as long as the path to the car from the radar is a straight line. If it is a curve, say for example across the apex of a corner it will say you are going faster than you are because the distance is less than it actually is. Matt

[VladTepes]

Originally posted by incisor
I went for a drive up to gympie on saturday and half the cars on the road were police...

they were pulling people over left right and centre for speeding and other stupid behaviour, like it was the national sport.

i made it up to Gladstonbury for a look without being pulled over and after giving the campground the once over i started the return journey.

just south of gympie one fool went past me doing 140kph + i estimate... and over the rise coming the other way was one of those new red monaro highway patrol cars... it slammed the brakes on, does a handbrakey in front of me and my disco doing 105kph, and nearly wore me. Bloody lucky i had just had the brakes done https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

it took off after the clown and pulls him over about 4 or 5 mile up the road. As i drove past the officer gives me a wave and gestures he is sorry for the ruckus he greated back up the road...

those monaro's certainly have some tow i have to say.... and the guy doing the speeding will be licenceless i imagine.

Do they really need Monaros or is it just some ridiculous recruitment ploy :?:

and if the latter... where do i sign.... https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Ace]

Originally posted by incisor
I went for a drive up to gympie on saturday and half the cars on the road were police...

they were pulling people over left right and centre for speeding and other stupid behaviour, like it was the national sport.

i made it up to Gladstonbury for a look without being pulled over and after giving the campground the once over i started the return journey.

just south of gympie one fool went past me doing 140kph + i estimate... and over the rise coming the other way was one of those new red monaro highway patrol cars... it slammed the brakes on, does a handbrakey in front of me and my disco doing 105kph, and nearly wore me. Bloody lucky i had just had the brakes done https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

it took off after the clown and pulls him over about 4 or 5 mile up the road. As i drove past the officer gives me a wave and gestures he is sorry for the ruckus he greated back up the road...

those monaro's certainly have some tow i have to say.... and the guy doing the speeding will be licenceless i imagine.

Cool, Monaro HP car, the most exotic we get here in NSW are XR6 Turbo's. Are they unmarked or marked, or both? Matt

[incisor]

Originally posted by VladTepes+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(VladTepes)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-incisor
I went for a drive up to gympie on saturday and half the cars on the road were police...

they were pulling people over left right and centre for speeding and other stupid behaviour, like it was the national sport.

i made it up to Gladstonbury for a look without being pulled over and after giving the campground the once over i started the return journey.

just south of gympie one fool went past me doing 140kph + i estimate... and over the rise coming the other way was one of those new red monaro highway patrol cars... it slammed the brakes on, does a handbrakey in front of me and my disco doing 105kph, and nearly wore me. Bloody lucky i had just had the brakes done https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

it took off after the clown and pulls him over about 4 or 5 mile up the road. As i drove past the officer gives me a wave and gestures he is sorry for the ruckus he greated back up the road...

those monaro's certainly have some tow i have to say.... and the guy doing the speeding will be licenceless i imagine.

Do they really need Monaros or is it just some ridiculous recruitment ploy :?:

and if the latter... where do i sign.... https://www.aulro.com/afvb/[/b][/quote]

they (the monaros that is) stand out in the crowd

[VladTepes]

Originally posted by Ace

Cool, Monaro HP car, the most exotic we get here in NSW are XR6 Turbo's. Are they unmarked or marked, or both? Matt

More info here: http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthr...ead.php't=23459 (http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php't=23459)

but as to whether they are marked.....

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8030/dmcmonaro1ji.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1631/dsc0752medium7fr.jpg

... I dunno, what do you reckon :?: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/


Originally posted by commodores&#045;r&#045;us.com website
Holden Monaro Out In Force for Queensland Police

Holden and the Queensland Police Service have joined forces in an effort to reduce the road toll and increase road safety leading up to the holiday season.

No fewer than 10 headturning Holden Monaro coupes have joined the Queensland police fleet to provide maximum visibility on roads during peak periods.

The Monaros will be used as a tool that will be a constant reminder for motorists to follow the road rules.

Queensland Police Minister Judy Spence and Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson unveiled the fleet at an event in King George Square in Brisbane.

The vehicles will be distributed to each police region where they can be used to promote road safety messages through high profile traffic patrols.

Each region and district can use the vehicles to employ local strategies based on road crash data and their individual needs.

The Monaros will be equipped with highly reflective markings and road safety messages displayed on the panels.

Each Monaro is fitted with mobile data devices which allow police to access information including driver license details and persons of interest data.

They also feature a range of modern technology to accommodate secure digital radios and mobile radar equipment.

Holden announced earlier this year that it would end production of the current generation Monaro in late 2005 after a stellar run as Australia's undisputed performance car hero.

The coupe has been Australia's top selling sports car each year since its release in late 2001 and has been sold under various brands in the United States , United Kingdom , Middle East and New Zealand.

[incisor]

thats them... it was one of those little red monsters!

[Slunnie]

Originally posted by VladTepes
Do they really need Monaros or is it just some ridiculous recruitment ploy :?:

and if the latter... where do i sign.... https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Apparently Holden made the police a good deal in order to clear stock. I'd love the AWD Monaro. yeah baby!

Just sign after the X and make the cheque out to Slunnie! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Ace]

Originally posted by Slunnie+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Slunnie)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-VladTepes
Do they really need Monaros or is it just some ridiculous recruitment ploy :?:

and if the latter... where do i sign.... :lol:
Apparently Holden made the police a good deal in order to clear stock. I'd love the AWD Monaro. yeah baby!

Just sign after the X and make the cheque out to Slunnie! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/[/b][/quote]

Is the latest, and final, monaro AWD? I thought they were only rear wheel drive. You learn something everyday. Matt

[Scott]

http://www.zipworld.com.au/~verysoft/speeding/
check out this site. It isn't the one I had seen a few years ago. I think I found it as a link from a Radar Detector site. Have a look yourself it was excellent. It gave step by step guidelines in how to drag the infringement out for as long as possible and cause the most amount of work for the Government. If everyone did that they wouldn't be so keen on booking everyone. It was excellent, you may not get off but the points don't get deducted till after court or you pay the fine as far as I know so if you can drag it out you may get some of your previous points back and save your licience. The site above is similar but there is another one if I can find it.
Cheers Scott

[matbor]

Some more.....

http://disco.bordignons.net/images/aulro/speeding_sign_1.jpg

http://disco.bordignons.net/images/aulro/speeding_sign_3.jpg

[Slunnie]

Originally posted by Ace+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ace)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Slunnie@
<!--QuoteBegin-VladTepes
Do they really need Monaros or is it just some ridiculous recruitment ploy :?:

and if the latter... where do i sign.... https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Apparently Holden made the police a good deal in order to clear stock. I'd love the AWD Monaro. yeah baby!

Just sign after the X and make the cheque out to Slunnie! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Is the latest, and final, monaro AWD? I thought they were only rear wheel drive. You learn something everyday. Matt[/b][/quote]
They are all RWD, except I think HSV did a small run of AWD. So the kiddies at work tell me anyhow.

[HSVRangie]

HSV do the AWD coupe.

http://www.hsv.com.au/cars/vz/main.asp?lin.../frame_main.htm (http://www.hsv.com.au/cars/vz/main.asp?link=../vy2/coupe4_new/frame_main.htm)

Michael.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Slunnie+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Slunnie)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Ace+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ace)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Slunnie@
<!--QuoteBegin-VladTepes
Do they really need Monaros or is it just some ridiculous recruitment ploy :?:

and if the latter... where do i sign.... https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Apparently Holden made the police a good deal in order to clear stock. I'd love the AWD Monaro. yeah baby!

Just sign after the X and make the cheque out to Slunnie! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Is the latest, and final, monaro AWD? I thought they were only rear wheel drive. You learn something everyday. Matt[/b][/quote]
They are all RWD, except I think HSV did a small run of AWD. So the kiddies at work tell me anyhow.[/b][/quote]

Yeah thats what i thought. The ones pictured are RWD, the ones on the link above are AWD. Just got a little confuseled. Matt

[VladTepes]

The AWD would be a waste of time. It's probably off the Adventra for gawd's sake. A powerful V8 rear drive sports car is what it is MEANT to be.

Can anyone say... drriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiift ?!

[gruntfuttock]

What is the use of it??
I can get booked for speeding in my Fender, now why would I need a AWD sports Monaro?
The only thing it can do better is go faster, and that is against the law :wink: