D5 off-road

[SimmAus]

Looks like a few off-road videos are springing up

https://youtu.be/-BMk9S9iGqA

https://youtu.be/UKgouDWH0sc

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I hope they change the front,,
looks like its older brother given it a a bit of an uppercut, :angel:

[Chops]

A bit hard to see on my phone, but they look like highway tyres that are at full pressure.

[SBD4]

can't understand a word he's saying....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzalV5uAwr0

[rar110]

It looks to be very capable. Shame is ugly as a hat full. [emoji39]
It's possible I could come around to it's appearance.

[Graeme]

A bit hard to see on my phone, but they look like highway tyres that are at full pressure.

And them some! The sidewalls don't seem to flex at all on the rocks.

[ozscott]

Traction control is excellent. But would have to be with lack of wheel travel and clearance exhibited on videos. Cheers

[Bytemrk]

Short, but looks promising....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nerDE4jpTXk

[ozscott]

Looks stiff and unyielding off road. No doubt it handles well on the twisty stuff. Cheers

[PerthDisco]

Looks like a Tarago people mover from the back. No rear step to stand on to access the roof? I agree very Fugly

[Tombie]

Looks like a Tarago people mover from the back. No rear step to stand on to access the roof? I agree very Fugly



If you replace 'step' with 'overhang' you turn it into less likely to hook up at the rear [emoji6]

I'm sure a ladder will be in the equipment list..

[1nando]

Looks capable, but seriously where would you use a high lift jack to change a tyre?, how nuch would it cost to fix all those body panels after hitting something?, looks like a fat bloke trying to do cross fit.
Traction control looks awesome though and looks like it be extremely comfortable

[weeds]

Looks capable, but seriously where would you use a high lift jack to change a tyre?, how nuch would it cost to fix all those body panels after hitting something?, looks like a fat bloke trying to do cross fit.
Traction control looks awesome though and looks like it be extremely comfortable



Not too many cars sold new that you can use a hi-lift on...and even the defender you need an adaptor and even than a hi-lift would be my last option.

Maybe the D5 has run flats.

[Tombie]

HiLift - have one. Only time used was in workshop to stretch a metal frame..

Other than that not a useful device (way heavy and not suited to most uses - there are often better ways)...

As for panel damage - no worse or expensive than any other vehicle - Defender included.

[Graeme]

Traction control is excellent. But would have to be with lack of wheel travel and clearance exhibited on videos. Cheers

Just need to be able to dial-in its extra height before getting grounded rather than after.

[roverrescue]

In the last video
Does the d5 now take the crown for
"Least actual wheel travel yet still off-road capable vehicle ever"

I think a commodore has more rear wheel travel than shown in that video

And that was a pretty steep gnarly climb
A defender on 20" rims at 65psi would struggle up that!
Yet the d5 just scrabbled its way up!

Cause I'm lazy - does it still weigh 2.9 tonne

S

[ozscott]

No mate. New one doesn't have its own gravitational field like D4. But I agree regarding wheel travel. Every iteration since D1 (which, along with RRC was the last word on slow work off road comfort) got stiffer and this looks like a surfboard. It must jar. It's undoubtedly got a lot going for it but I don't like what I see offroad in the videos in terms of offroad comfort.

Cheers

[catch-22]

The lighter the colour the better they are looking. The dark colours take away what little detail they have in the first place.

But that traction control.....man!!!

The capabilities with the potential 18" wheel option running off road pressures, will be quite a sight.

[Tombie]

Guys you are aware it has greater wheel travel than the model it replaces and greater wheel travel than a Defender [emoji6]

[ozscott]

Jeez doesn't look it from the videos. I will reserve judgement then. Cheers

[Tombie]

Jeez doesn't look it from the videos. I will reserve judgement then. Cheers



Also depends on mode selected - some cross link others don't.

[cripesamighty]

"Also depends on mode selected - some cross link others don't. "

Ah, that makes a bit more sense!

[roverrescue]

Tombie
No I did not know that
In that video it seems the rear right wheel goes from loaded to TC dancing and travels only the height of the tyre profile
By my calculations on what are they
415x10R24
That's 40mm of travel ;) ;)

Still reckon 90% plus will be ordered sans low range for the soccer run

It's good to hear they have lost weight over a D4 or 200 - my 130 loaded for a week away weighs less than a D4 sitting in the dealers yard

S

[Graeme]

The base size is 255/55R19.

[roverrescue]

Thanks Graeme
So by roughy estimate that's about 125mm of down travel
Pretty good really
Just looks non compliant

I guess though the way it makes those tracks look easy would point to good articulation as well as TC

Inmo it's less ugly than d3/4 but now it's a meh SUV

S

[BobD]

Right at the beginning of that video you can see a brief dark shot which shows a lot of rear articulation. However, if you blink it seems to jump to almost level as he starts to drive.


I agree that the D5 is less ugly than the D4. I've never thought that the D4 was thing of great beauty, especially the front without a bull bar, just an immensely practical shape.

[Graeme]

Full off-road height is +75mm then about another 40mm to super-extended above normal height, down 50mm to access height so at least 165mm for the selectable range plus a little more to the bump-stops and above super-extended.

[SBD4]

this article gives some good info plus some of the same footage I posted earlier:

New 2017 Land Rover Discovery driven (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/land-rover/new-2017-land-rover-discovery-driven-ultimate-4x4-returns/)

I like the flooded vehicle testing - if it truly is cabable of what it says then it is impressive.

It's going to fun watching the reviews once it's released.

[willem]

can't understand a word he's saying....
Land Rover Discovery - AutoWeek Review - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzalV5uAwr0)


I could understand him...he was very impressed by the Discos, even if they were prototypes. They tested two - a V6 petrol and a V6 diesel both 3 litres. I'm not sure where they tested them - looks too hilly for Holland!

[SBD4]

I could understand him...he was very impressed by the Discos, even if they were prototypes. They tested two - a V6 petrol and a V6 diesel both 3 litres. I'm not sure where they tested them - looks too hilly for Holland!

Hahaha, thanks Willem. I kind of got that impression - nice to have it confirmed though[thumbsupbig]. I think they are on one of the Land Rover courses in the UK.

[Garfield]

Full off-road height is +75mm then about another 40mm to super-extended above normal height, down 50mm to access height so at least 165mm for the selectable range plus a little more to the bump-stops and above super-extended.

Graeme, will you do a LLAMS kit for the new D5 ?

[Graeme]

I expect the L494/L405 kit to fit but most likely will need to pick-up power using a piggyback fuse from the nearby fuse panel. The L494/L405 kits pick-up power from the CVD supply that's in one of the connectors that I intercept but as the D5 doesn't appear to have CVDs I don't expect it to have a wire to that connector cavity. Now that the wiring diagrams are available on Topix I will shortly confirm my expectations that the same physical suspension module that the L494 without CVDs uses is used in the Disco and confirm the expected omitted CVD power supply wire. The programming has already been tweaked to provide an alternate higher set of raised heights with the Disco in mind.

[101RRS]

According to this vid LR think a snorkel will not be required.

http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-2017-lan...1793607086 (http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-2017-land-rover-discoverys-air-intake-is-brilliant-1793607086)

I can see Safari bypassing the bonnet plenum system and coming in through the mudguard from the outside into the air intake in there and blocking the inner guard intake off.

Garry

[Bohica]

According to this vid LR think a snorkel will not be required.

http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-2017-lan...1793607086 (http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-2017-land-rover-discoverys-air-intake-is-brilliant-1793607086)

I can see Safari bypassing the bonnet plenum system and coming in through the mudguard from the outside into the air intake in there and blocking the inner guard intake off.

Garry

Safari will sell one even if it doesn't need one. So it's a cut through the guard job, just like the Disco 1 and 2.

[Graeme]

I expect the L494/L405 kit to fit but most likely will need to pick-up power using a piggyback fuse from the nearby fuse panel.Wiring diagrams and connector details from Topix confirm that the suspension module wiring and connectors are identical to the L494 and L405. As expected the Disco will require a separate power feed due to the lack of a CVD power supply in one of the intercepted connectors and not wanting to intercept a 3rd connector just to get access to the suspension module's 12V supply. As the Disco's suspension module is located on the driver's A pillar the same as the D3/D4/L320 RRS, a wire with a piggy-back fuse-holder long enough to reach across to the passenger fuse panel behind the passenger glove box will be required. The L494/L405 kit will become the L494/L405/L462 kit but the L494 and L405 will not use the extra wire that will plug into the Llams loom as an alternate 12V supply.