Millenials - What's wrong with this generation :p

[Bytemrk]

After reading the "How did we ever survive growing up in the 60s-80s? "thread, I thought I'd share a video I saw a few weeks back that I think has a lot of truth in it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK97VG-m3W0


It's quite long.... but worth watching.

[loneranger]

Well worth watching. We used to teach a karate class and were supposed to hand out a participation certificate to one of the kids every week. We didn't occasionally we would give one out to one of the kids who had one something really good and then they knew they had earned it. What we did do though was build relationships with them by taking time to interact to the point that if we see one of those kids now as adults they will talk to us 10yrs later.

[Tombie]

It's a great video...

Entitlement - that's the key challenge..
People need to stop spoiling their little Prince/Princesses and teach them hard work, ethics and dealing with failure/drama/trauma.

Once they learn they aren't special, or unique, until they earn that distinction - they need to work hard to earn that..

[Bytemrk]

Once they learn they aren't special, or unique, until they earn that distinction - they need to work hard to earn that..

And ironically, those that I have met that have learned those simple life lessons are pretty special today. :D

[Tombie]

And ironically, those that I have met that have learned those simple life lessons are pretty special today. :D



You're pretty good Mark [emoji12][emoji48]

[DiscoMick]

Yep, saw that previously and there's a lot of truth in it.

[Pocket Rocket]

Some really interesting take aways from this even for non millenials. Phones are addictive. My 80 year old Aunt spends way too much time on her phone on facebook. She told me that she does this to manage depression.

I know I tend to use my phone a lot when I'm not in a good headspace and expecially when in a chronic pain state. Pre 2014 when I joined facebook I used to use my phone for research but now I find I just browse. In some ways it feels like wasting your life.

In the past the kids used to text my husband instead of me as I wouldn't even bother taking my phone out of my backpack at night or on the weekend. Now I feel like there is an expectation that I'm always available in case they need something. In reality there probably is no expectation... except for an imagined one on my part.

And ironically I write this post.... on my phone :eek:

[Fatso]

Just a generational thing , i can remember my Parents and Aunties etc carrying on about my generation with their Rock and Roll and so on , along with the Bodgies and Widgies , flat tops and crew cuts and hanging out at the Milk Bar on Friday nights .

No doubt the Millennials will be carrying on about the new generation when they get to be the carry oners .

[loneranger]

Just a generational thing , i can remember my Parents and Aunties etc carrying on about my generation with their Rock and Roll and so on , along with the Bodgies and Widgies , flat tops and crew cuts and hanging out at the Milk Bar on Friday nights .

No doubt the Millennials will be carrying on about the new generation when they get to be the carry oners .
But they'll be doing it digitally. Sitting on the couch next to each other not talking. 😆

[Bytemrk]

Just a generational thing , i can remember my Parents and Aunties etc carrying on about my generation with their Rock and Roll and so on , along with the Bodgies and Widgies , flat tops and crew cuts and hanging out at the Milk Bar on Friday nights .

No doubt the Millennials will be carrying on about the new generation when they get to be the carry oners .

True, but I reckon a lot of the story is around some of the reasons they are like that. Including how my generation (and those a little older) brought many of them up... (Which is of course true for all generations )

The millenials in my house, share some of those "faults"... but they understand hard work and seem to lack the "entitlement" gene that plagues others. The video however, did make me look at one or two at work in a slightly different light.

When it comes to most things in life, particularly kids, dogs and employees... you get what you accept..;)

[rangiewoman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5pe7z_X4mA.


Had to put this one up

[Homestar]

Once they learn they aren't special, or unique, until they earn that distinction - they need to work hard to earn that..

You are Unique - just like everyone else. ;)

[mr_squiggle]

Just like Brian said in Monty Python's The Life of Brian; "You're all individuals" & the crowd chants - "we're all individuals" & some wit up the back says "I'm not".

[ramblingboy42]

Nothings wrong with the millenials.

Theyre just like I was when I was that age except I had long hair down my back and wore cotton drawstring trousers and paisley shirts.

I used to run around saying things like "**** the establishment.....no wars...ban the bomb...etc etc"

I also thought I'd never own a home and wanted everything like a transistor radio or a tv set.

I got told I was a hippy and wanted "everything" now and to shut up and save and that there were no entitlements and that if I wanted something I had to work hard to get it.

Doesn't this all sound very familiar to what is being said about the millenials?

BTW they are all better educated and smarter than us.

[Tombie]

No they're not RB42... not by a long shot...
I was educated and continued to learn including the latest technologies as they evolved...

It's amazing how narrow the education of the millenials is (broad not specific cases) - they really are struggling to have a rounded knowledge.. and wow, are they often politically influenced by the Universities.. it's mind blowing.

Inability to socially interact face to face is a growing challenge for them, and conflict resolution seems to challenge many of them as well...

They're very self confident the ones I worked with, but when things get tough... that's an eye opener. They've never seen a big X in red ink, or been told they failed at a task... when something like that happens in the workplace it's a seriously traumatic experience for them...

"Runs on the board" and "Earn your stripes" means nothing to many of them... and certainly requires some different approaches to manage.

They also have a very strong "you can do anything, you can be anything" ideal, driven into them at school. When in the workplace they can't grasp a task/concept/activity they insist they can learn. The reality is that natural aptitude is a genuine skill for certain tasks (ability to see patterns, influencing skills, planning skills etc)..

The most amazing thing - has me shaking my head - AND occurs on here as well...

Have the most powerful research tools: Laptops, Smart Phones and Google.
Yet insist on being lazy arses and asking rather than researching. Ask away, but put the effort in first!!!

[DieSchnelleKafer]

They're very self confident the ones I worked with, but when things get tough... that's an eye opener. They've never seen a big X in red ink, or been told they failed at a task... when something like that happens in the workplace it's a seriously traumatic experience for them...



Im 20 and when i read this i agreed. Im actually guilty of this. I had my first job out of school, a sales rep/front desk job at an industrial shop when i was 18. I was still coming down from the school rhetoric of "you can do anything, be anything!".. Boy was i shocked when my boss pulled me in to his office and gave me a ear full about how i had to "earn my keep" as it happened to turn out the first month of my employment i had only made a few hundred dollars for the company. Anyway, i was pretty taken back. but it was what i needed to get my arse into gear and re-asses a few things.


Now i know this is going to russel a few feathers here, but i think the advancements in technology have been just as much of a curse as they have been a blessing. The millennial's live in a highly synthetic world. Damn, i personally have trouble if i dont get my social media/phone fix for the day. Im not sure what it was like before my time but i have found many friends completely useless with committing to plans, because its so easy to make plans these days using phones/social media, and its just as easy to cancel plans.

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[kenleyfred]

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[kenleyfred]

My millennial is hopeless. I've been sitting here (the above photo) since about 30 minutes before sunrise. She's mad keen on triathlon and doing okay in them.
She somehow manages to fit school, which she does well at, training at least four hours a day six days a week into her hectic mobile phone life.
Some millennials have a lot of drive.

And I get to drive her to a lot of pretty locations for her training and events.

Kenley

[DiscoMick]

I think millennial is just a label. Every generation gets criticised by the previous one. I copped it.
I know some who are wonderful young people, most are OK and some haven't figured their way out yet.
Technology usage is just a symptom of character. The technology is here to stay. What we do with it is the key.

[Toxic_Avenger]

If I had a dollar for every time someone over 40 tells me my generation is crap, then I'd be able to afford a house in the economy the messed up.

[trog]

Ah the age of entitlement . In my day it was a penny , not a dollar :D

[Toxic_Avenger]

I never really considered myself a milennial, I was more in the Gen X/Y camp, being born in the mid 80's. But the 'generation' gap is always played out as a big deal when in fact it's all just part of society evolving. Some will be in front of the curve (new tech, communication etc), and others will lag. The vocal crowd are always the laggers.

But when people say 'we' are entitled and out of touch with the world, the contrary could also be argued. Entitlement today just takes a different form to the entitlement of yesteryear. Many of the boomers, and genX are still reaping the rewards of free university education. While I have a 55K HECS/HELP debt to show for my 8 years of studies (I got off lightly, too, I might add).
People my parents age bought their first home for $52,000 in the early 80- adjusted for inflation, that's a shade over $170K. Houses there are now upwards of $650K. They lived in a world where globablisation was not yet a concern, we had our own industry in our own country, and people worked a job 'for life'. I think most would agree that is not the case these days.
I've been in the full-time workforce for maybe 7 years now, and have seen incredible change beyond anything I would have expected- all to react to a rapidly changing market (in the mining/manufacturing/industrial space).

This sense of 'Entitlement' which is being touted is probably also a disconnect between the modern reality, and the projected experiences/expectaions of the older generations on their children.

While my above post was intended as a joke first and foremost, every joke holds an ounce of truth.

[rick130]

If I had a dollar for every time someone over 40 tells me my generation is crap, then I'd be able to afford a house in the economy the messed up.

Mitch, I'm a Gen X'er (just) and we were lumped with the same labels when I was young and I hear you on housing affordability.

The company I work for has a number of techs and apprentices (naturally) under 30 and they are all great guys and gals, as are the office staff in the same age range.

The 20yo first (now second) year that's been shadowing me the last few months will be an excellent tech.
I throw him jobs tradesman baulk at and he just gets on with it, partly as I think I don't baby him, it shows I have confidence by giving him the jobs I do.
Sure, he makes the odd mistake but I really throw him in at the deep end. He's learning to think (extroverts tend to act/react and blurt rather than think problems through) and he's good fun to work with.
Our other techs are the same, although I did have to chip one of our really switched on 26yo's one day "get off the bloody phone !" :D

[V8Ian]

If I had a dollar for every time someone over 40 tells me my generation is crap, then I'd be able to afford a house in the economy the messed up.

I'll make you another buck, Mitch.;)

I think age jealousy has a bit to do with it.

[Tombie]

I'll make you another buck, Mitch.;)



I think age jealousy has a bit to do with it.



Oh hell no! You couldn't pay me to be in my 20s again...

[Tombie]

I'd suggest though Mitch. Globalisation came from driven factors... The internet etc.. knocking down borders...

Where once domestic support was high now we just shop across the globe for the cheapest source. Even though this doesn't factor in local income levels etc.. in much the same way Sydney wages are higher than Adelaide wages on account of cost of living variation (loose example)..

House prices - that's through stupidity - people wanting a huge house for their first home etc drive demand for higher end suburbs and prices skyrocketed as a result.. people paying way too much for a simple Brick/Veneer...

Then there's the cars - half the lads around here are onto their 2nd (or later vehicle) - we all had the crap first vehicle but these lads are now driving VE/VF HSVs, F6s etc. 21 with a $70k+ vehicle (and associated debt)...

I worked with a young lady who between her and her partner have a modest home. With $100k worth of Art in it, a LCD TV in every bedroom, lounge and family room (all high end) and 2 very flash vehicles... they're in debt a good solid $500k in Whyalla [emoji15]

HECS debts I don't disagree with... paying for a Degree is appropriate I believe.. and the repayment system is not too bad. although I do believe the student for life brigade need reigning in... (for the record I have a debt)

I wouldn't say the last generation created the current debt issues, I'd suggest a combination of both the last and the current have worked together to do the damage - after all the biggest consumers are the new gen and the corporations are trying to monopolise the markets (last gen) through targeted sales.

And I'd suggest using the phrase "Society morphs or transitions" rather than evolves.. Many of the skills that make a society just that (rather than autonomous individuals) are dying and we are now more just a population rather than a society..

We speak of freedoms, but when they don't work we demand rules.
We speak of free markets and competition, but when it causes big price increases and lack of investment we complain.
We want huge salaries, but baulk at paying a price that enables sellers to also make a good income.
We speak of lack of industry and jobs, but buy products from overseas (see other points above)
We sing praises of our nation, but spend our holiday dollars overseas
We have premium Aussie manufacturers (lockers, axles, bar work etc), yet we buy from overseas
We rush to have the best of everything; houses, cars, electronics.. and start a debt cycle at an early age.

And education... we now sell entry to University to virtually anyone, regardless of capability and then allow them to do almost any degree.. Formerly they offered a specified number of placements in each field. Only the best of the applicants was successful.. Now it's more a business rather than an educational facility. This was beginning to change as I was entering my 20s.

Hopefully a slight change to the "entitlement and PC" culture will restore some balance.
Let's face it, colouring in books, hot chocolate, safe rooms - for people upset their Political candidate wasn't elected - demonstrates a failing in the system when teaching people to deal with negative emotions.

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[V8Ian]

Oh hell no! You couldn't pay me to be in my 20s again...

I'd like to be back there with the years of wisdom I've now accumulated.

[Tombie]

I'd like to be back there with the years of wisdom I've now accumulated.



What's that saying? "Youth is wasted on the young."

[cuppabillytea]

If I had a dollar for every time someone over 40 tells me my generation is crap, then I'd be able to afford a house in the economy the messed up.

Well now you can put a shiny number on the letter box as well. :p

[cuppabillytea]

I'd like to go back to the first respondent on this thread and agree that rewarding failure is counter productive. Sport is a good way to teach kids that the have to earn their stripes. Well organised sports will tell interfering parents, who try to advance their kids through intervention, to go and take a flying leap.