****ING ARSONISTS

[LandyAndy]

Gale force winds and a hot day,perfect day for a fire it seems.
We had an arsonist travelling thru town.They lit 3 fires north of town and 3 south of town.All on gravel side roads,all 500m off the highway and they even signed their name with a burnout at each ignition point.
There are other fires between Pinjarra and Albany all along the same route.
Fortunately all 6 fires were brought under control quickly due to people being close buy seeing them start.
I had a very close call,was putting a firebreak in thick stubble,the smoke shut the grader down,obviously due to lack of oxygen.I managed to get it started,just as the fire was upon me,WOW!!!!.If it didn't start I would have needed to sit it out,way too hot and windy to try and abandon ship.
All arsonists should be slowly burnt to death,wouldnt want them to die too quickly,even better if it was the next day.Then they can burn in hell.
Andrew

[Pocket Rocket]

Glad you got out okay!! Hope they catch the bastards!!

[loneranger]

Glad your okay and got your grader going again.

Maybe we should get the government to label arsonists as terrorists.

[hodgo]

There are no words in my vocabulary to describe the sick minded Bastards regardless of their age, in a sense there they are terrorists and when fires cost lives they should be charged with murder.

[LandyAndy]

I just checked the emergency website,it seems there were another 4 fires south of Williams and the Tambellup turnoff,2 between Boddington and Pinjarra.
May they burn in hell.
Andrew

[Pocket Rocket]

Hopefully someone saw them!!

[cuppabillytea]

Glad you're OK Andy. There is no proper word for such malignant mongrels. Hope the wind changes on them and burns their sorry arses.

[Bytemrk]

Geez Andy, that sounds a little too close!

These people need a very special kind of punishment... maybe shackled to the back of your grader for a week or two would be a good start.....

Much property damaged?...

[V8Ian]

Do you keep a stash of marshmallows in the tractor? :p

[Narangga]

Trying to send that rain down as quickly as I can Andrew...

Glad you're OK and able to tell us about it.

[Bytemrk]

Do you keep a stash of marshmallows in the tractor? :p


Nah... he's in Western Victoria isn't he ? ;)

[LandyAndy]

Do you keep a stash of marshmallows in the tractor? :p

With 400lts of diesel in a plastic tank under my arse,toasting marshmallows was the last thing on my mind;);););););););)
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Trying to send that rain down as quickly as I can Andrew...

Glad you're OK and able to tell us about it.

A day late it seems Dale.
South West WA Weather - Warnings | ABC South West WA | Australian Broadcasting Corporation (http://www.abc.net.au/southwestwa/weather/warnings.htm)
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Geez Andy, that sounds a little too close!

These people need a very special kind of punishment... maybe shackled to the back of your grader for a week or two would be a good start.....

Much property damaged?...

I went to the last one,it got away as everyone was at the previous 5 fires,about 1000 acres burnt out where I was.
I put breaks around the 5th fire on the way in to town,it was only 100 acres or so,mainly because there was a grader cleaning out contour banks in the hill above the fire.
Not sure how big the others were.
Andrew

[BMKal]

Trying to send that rain down as quickly as I can Andrew...

Glad you're OK and able to tell us about it.

It must have took a detour and travelled inland. It's been raining here all day and is bloody freezing. Still ****ing down now at 9:00pm with more of the same forecast for tomorrow.

[Shortie]

I'm stuck in the one in Wungong, I raced up to help out an elderly friend who lives on the South West Highway - it was bloody scary with the water bomber helicopters rattling the roof as I was frantically running around turning on sprinklers and try to grab his paperwork.
And I can not believe the *****wits who drive up to look and block the roads, one drunk bloke was wrestled to the ground and was arrested. Then he was carrying on like a pork chop in the police car while they waited for a paddy wagon to come and get him. Then some other idiots raced through the police road block on their trail bikes.
The police road block is just out the front of his property which is handy for updates and also lucky we were there because the police woman was busting and needed to spend a penny.

[CraigE]

Wonder if its the same tool that started the fire near Dwellingup? Out of control. Also another out of control one at Byford.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Andy just out of curiosity,,
Who sent you there?
Council? Local Fire Authority?
It seems to me you were put in harms way,, in a machine not fit for purpose.

[ATH]

Not uncommon for fires to start beside many roads during summer and most are probably from discarded fag butts.
These bastards know that they could start a fire but that doesn't stop them. I suspect many of us have sat behind cars at lights and seen butts come flying out the window onto the mulching councils put down on centre reservations.
It's so obviously deliberate and I've got my camera going all the time in an effort to catch someone doing this and I'll definitely go to court if necessary.
Glad you're OK Andrew.
AlanH.

[BMKal]

Copied from the ABC Great Southern facebook page.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/02/477.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/jsa7fa51l/)

Now watch some ****weak judge or magistrate give this arsehole a slap on the wrist and let him out in no time at all to do it all again.

Until we get a judiciary with some balls in this country, we will not see an end to this type of behaviour. :censored:

[digger]

Not uncommon for fires to start beside many roads during summer and most are probably from discarded fag butts.
These bastards know that they could start a fire but that doesn't stop them. I suspect many of us have sat behind cars at lights and seen butts come flying out the window onto the mulching councils put down on centre reservations.
It's so obviously deliberate and I've got my camera going all the time in an effort to catch someone doing this and I'll definitely go to court if necessary.
Glad you're OK Andrew.
AlanH.

Alan,
I'm a bushfire investigator with my job and CFS. With the new laws about cig manufacture the odds are very very much against a lit smoke from a car starting a fire. Glass bottles broken on sides of road have become a leader but the main cause of these sadly is very likely arsonists. The patterns formed in their location is another clue, 500m from roadway, burnout as they left, likely a dip, hill or bend in roadway at that point too... bastards..

That being said throwing anything from a car, especially a lit smoke and you are a bastard as far as I am concerned. There are on the spot fines in SA for smoking in bushland during the fire danger season without having a 4m clearance!!


The benefit of a top class grader driver at any scrub fire is incalculable- using their machinery knowledge, and experience with most terrains etc they can efficiently create an effective fire break in a very short time. The graders, dozers and FEL drivers used for these are brilliant and very often go unrecognised as front line fire fighters, Andy in SA if there is active large fire nearby we usually send a QRV (land cruiser usually fire truck) in following the grader, I'm assuming there was too many events nearby to allow for this?

Either way, as I have said you guys are superb and brave as hell doing the work you do, us 'sprinklers' on the fire ground really do appreciate you!

Glad your safe!

[rover-56]

Gale force winds and a hot day,perfect day for a fire it seems.
We had an arsonist travelling thru town.They lit 3 fires north of town and 3 south of town.All on gravel side roads,all 500m off the highway and they even signed their name with a burnout at each ignition point.
There are other fires between Pinjarra and Albany all along the same route.
Fortunately all 6 fires were brought under control quickly due to people being close buy seeing them start.
I had a very close call,was putting a firebreak in thick stubble,the smoke shut the grader down,obviously due to lack of oxygen.I managed to get it started,just as the fire was upon me,WOW!!!!.If it didn't start I would have needed to sit it out,way too hot and windy to try and abandon ship.
All arsonists should be slowly burnt to death,wouldnt want them to die too quickly,even better if it was the next day.Then they can burn in hell.
Andrew

I have several CFA mates here who have very special treatment planned for any they catch in the act....:twisted::twisted:
Terry

[Chrisl76]

As a volunteer firey nothing gets on my goat more than these scumbags. Heaven help one if they ever got caught by us!

[rover-56]

As a volunteer firey nothing gets on my goat more than these scumbags. Heaven help one if they ever got caught by us!

From memory the treatment involved testicles and a burnback torch :p
Terry

[Chrisl76]

Testicles, zip ties, tow chains and appliance recovery points. I'll leave the rest to your imagination.

[JDNSW]

A couple of days ago, near Mudgee, a man was struck by lightning while attempting to extinguish a fire started by lightning. He was found by the RFS crew, but it is not clear whether he was a RFS member or a landholder (quite possibly both).

There have been at least two fires started by lightning near here in the last couple of weeks. Fortunately, no arson though.

John

[67hardtop]

When i was a young bloke up in the Kimberlies, Derby, bushfires were common and a lot were started by the sun magnifying through the bottoms of broken bottles by the roadside. They were mostly left to burn out coz there was no way to combat a fire burning on a 40km or more front in such a sparsly accommodated area.

Cheers Rod

[LandyAndy]

Well great news this morning,they caught the bastard.Lets hope they can get enough evidence lay charges.
The fires were deliberately lit,set with a "tea candle".
https://thewest.com.au/news/albany-advertiser/police-question-man-over-fires-ng-b88381105z
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Wonder if its the same tool that started the fire near Dwellingup? Out of control. Also another out of control one at Byford.

Apparently.
Andrew

[JDNSW]

How was he caught? (I assume 'he', they nearly all are.)

John

[Davo]

Well great news this morning,they caught the bastard.Lets hope they can get enough evidence lay charges.
The fires were deliberately lit,set with a "tea candle".
https://thewest.com.au/news/albany-advertiser/police-question-man-over-fires-ng-b88381105z
Andrew

Don't tell me - he was wearing a clown suit.

[Fifth Columnist]

It seems there are times when the Mods ought to be a bit lenient over 'bad' language. :angel:

[LandyAndy]

Andy just out of curiosity,,
Who sent you there?
Council? Local Fire Authority?
It seems to me you were put in harms way,, in a machine not fit for purpose.

I actually sent myself Pedro.I also directed one of my staff to take a water truck there,the other grader driver to take his grader out and others to load the big loader and rake onto the float ready to go when called.My boss was at the 3 fires north of town,Im the man when the boss isn't available.Decisions need to be made quickly especially with the fire conditions yesterday(hot and 50kmh winds).We are covered both by the Shire and the local Bush Fire Service.
As for the machine not fit for purpose,it can happen to any diesel engine in heavy smoke,I got too close to the heavy black smoke.I was on the flank where the fire was heading in heavy stubble and only had 1 fire unit with me.It was my second cut down the flank and it did slow up the front,infact my next cut enabled the fire unit plus another that joined to stop the fire on that break.It was then very easy to cut the fire off in the next paddock due to less fuel loading and another grader and plenty of farmer fire units.
Andrew
I saw the smoke go up from the first one south of town

[LandyAndy]

Alan,
I'm a bushfire investigator with my job and CFS. With the new laws about cig manufacture the odds are very very much against a lit smoke from a car starting a fire. Glass bottles broken on sides of road have become a leader but the main cause of these sadly is very likely arsonists. The patterns formed in their location is another clue, 500m from roadway, burnout as they left, likely a dip, hill or bend in roadway at that point too... bastards..

That being said throwing anything from a car, especially a lit smoke and you are a bastard as far as I am concerned. There are on the spot fines in SA for smoking in bushland during the fire danger season without having a 4m clearance!!


The benefit of a top class grader driver at any scrub fire is incalculable- using their machinery knowledge, and experience with most terrains etc they can efficiently create an effective fire break in a very short time. The graders, dozers and FEL drivers used for these are brilliant and very often go unrecognised as front line fire fighters, Andy in SA if there is active large fire nearby we usually send a QRV (land cruiser usually fire truck) in following the grader, I'm assuming there was too many events nearby to allow for this?

Either way, as I have said you guys are superb and brave as hell doing the work you do, us 'sprinklers' on the fire ground really do appreciate you!

Glad your safe!

Normally we have atleast 1 if not 2 units to protect the grader operator,due to the number of fires at once help was thin on the ground to start with.I did have a unit following me,they were chasing spotting at the time.
Andrew

[Bytemrk]

Still a brave act Andrew...

Well done mate... as I said earlier, glad all ended well..

[LandyAndy]

How was he caught? (I assume 'he', they nearly all are.)

John

Possibly sited,they had a spotter plane follow him,did a runner when police tried stopping him.Crashed his car and was then found.Has been charged with traffic offences sofar,including excess .05.Guess they wont lay arson charges until they get more evidence.
Andrew

[Chenz]

The full cost to put out a fire which was deliberately lit should be paid for by the perpetrator. This includes the cost of the fire fighters, their equipment and time and the cost of all the property damaged and destroyed. All assets are seized and disposed of to the state to recover the debt. If the poor sick arsehole does not have the funds, which 99.999% won't, they get put in goal and do hard labour at a set rate per day until the debt is repaid.

If persons are injured and/or killed as a result of their fire, they are also charges with assault or murder and do the time for this as well.

This slap on the wrist or "he must have mental problems" argument does not cut it anymore. Do the crime do the time - and pay for it.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I am very glad to hear someone has your back Andy,,

and just how fast is Alotta Fagina ?? :angel:

[ATH]

"hard labour at a set rate per day until the debt is repaid." Nice thought but it ain't ever going to happen as all the apologists for idiotic behaviour would scream about it being an abuse of their human rights!
Plus a weak judiciary wouldn't hand out any sentence including hard labour.
AlanH

[Dark61]

The 2013 fires down my way were deliberately lit. When the Sun went down and the Choppers went home my property and everything in it that i had worked for for the best part of 40 years was under threat. I had several laundry emergencies with spot fires etc over the next few hours and if i could have got hold of the fugger who started it I would have torn him to pieces.
Cheers,
D

[BMKal]

I am very glad to hear someone has your back Andy,,

and just how fast is Alotta Fagina ?? :angel:

46.6 km/hr according to specs. Nearly as fast as his D4. ;)

[V8Ian]

46.6 km/hr according to specs. Nearly as fast as his D4. ;)

With 400 litres of fuel burning below his arse, I reckon jet assist would increase that by 100 kph.
It is Andy fuelled with premium, high cetane home brew.:p

[Pedro_The_Swift]

The Sutherland Shire just sent 5 trucks and crews to the Hunter Valley in preparation for Sunday the 12th, catastrophic is the level.,
Slunnie has posted on FB about receiving multiple fire warnings( I can only surmise for Orange?),,
while he's been racing in the Cole Classic at Manly! :D
great to see him back out there.. :cool:

[Eevo]

makes my blood boil


Teenage boy charged with allegedly starting fire in NSW (http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/teenage-boy-charged-with-allegedly-lighting-fire-in-nsw-central-west/news-story/b050df66f2680df23e75b8ebae335d98)

[Chenz]

"hard labour at a set rate per day until the debt is repaid." Nice thought but it ain't ever going to happen as all the apologists for idiotic behaviour would scream about it being an abuse of their human rights!
Plus a weak judiciary wouldn't hand out any sentence including hard labour.
AlanH

When is the judicial system going to reflect the views of the majority over the bleeding heart minority? The worm has to turn sooner or later. We can see in some parts of the world it is.

[DiscoMick]

I see a magistrate denied bail to an alleged arsonist in the Kempsey area, which was good. People like that are enemies of society and don't deserve any sympathy. Let him sweat in the clink for as long as possible, I say.