View Full Version : 2009 D4 3.0 HSE Catastrophic Engine Failure (highly likely)
catch-22
12th February 2017, 08:18 AM
Hi all,
After many years of Land Rover ownership, it looks as if my D4 has packed it in.
It is currently at the dealers who are going to look at it on Monday. So, how did it happen?
Holidaying on the Sunshine Coast and we were driving, not towing, to SeaWorld. Doing 100ks near Springwood and from nowhere, -drrrrrrr- (hard to produce the sound in writing). Took less than half a second, then the engine stopped, battery light on, and we coasted in to the far left lane. No warnings whatsoever and before this it was driving fine.
I let it sit for a minute while panic kicked in then tried to start it. Starter kicked in and sounded like it just spun up, like it didn't engage, but it was hard to hear over the noise of the traffic. Fairly certain the engine didn't move and didn't try again after that.
I've owned a Disco 2, Range Rover L322 v8, and we currently own a 2011 SD4 HSE FL2, and of course the D4 3.0 HSE.
The D2 and RR used to be serviced by LR specialists but the FL2 and D4 are serviced at dealers. The D4 was purchased from a dealer.
It has 187k on the clock and has been serviced better than the schedule, that is, always under 1 year and always under the recommended k's. When towing, it's been serviced at half intervals as per requirements.
As soon as I hear back from the dealer I'll approach LR and ask them for some assistance.
In a panicked state I posted elsewhere and I have to say that I was absolutely delighted to get responses of offers for a place to stay and a car to use from people I've never met and never spoken to on the forum. People have also taken time out of their day to call people they know to get some more detail on known issues etc. So to you, you know who you all are, I say a massive thanks.
Pickles2
12th February 2017, 09:37 AM
Good luck with your "issue", it is never a pleasant experience to come to an "unexpected stop", so hope you have a quick resolution.
Pickles.
DiscoJeffster
12th February 2017, 09:40 AM
This is awful news, very sorry to hear. I expect also very expensive news as well. You have me slightly freaked out now owning a similar age 3.0 with 230k on the clock. The symptoms sound like a big end failure like 2.7's have, which I thought the 3.0 was immune from. Please keep us up to date with the findings, and wishing you the best of luck.
LRD414
12th February 2017, 11:03 AM
3.0L not totally immune to problems ....
This one has two different guys with seized 3.0L engines:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-disc...ne-seized.html (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/222577-d4-2009-tdv6-3-0-engine-seized.html)
This is a low km 3.0L with crankshaft bearing failure, covered under warranty:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-disc...failure-3.html (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-4/172146-another-tdv6-crankshaft-bearing-failure-3.html)
Scott
scarry
12th February 2017, 12:34 PM
Sorry to hear☹️
Which dealer is it at?
jonesy63
12th February 2017, 01:12 PM
It has 187k on the clock and has been serviced better than the schedule
Hi catch-22,
Sorry for the loss.
I saw the quoted text and the first thing that came to mind is the major service to replace timing belts. :eek:
It will be interesting to see what the cause was.
Good luck!
Cheers,
Rob
catch-22
12th February 2017, 01:14 PM
Sorry to hear☹️
Which dealer is it at?
G'day Scarry, it's at Austral....
catch-22
12th February 2017, 01:16 PM
Hi catch-22,
Sorry for the loss.
I saw the quoted text and the first thing that came to mind is the major service to replace timing belts. :eek:
It will be interesting to see what the cause was.
Good luck!
Cheers,
Rob
G'day Rob,
The big service was done at 164k. All components that could be updated to the current was done at that time.
Narangga
12th February 2017, 02:39 PM
Mate what an absolute bugger. Hope you are able to get it sorted without have to foot the bill yourself.
gotaflat
12th February 2017, 04:09 PM
G'day Rob,
The big service was done at 164k. All components that could be updated to the current was done at that time.
Timing belts done? it may have let go... :(
We have had (tough wood) 210k of faultless driving from new (ok, compressor and aircon pump replaced all under warranty ...and DVD which the kids managed to drop coins in to...but they replaced that to!) - Timing belt done at 180k.
Good luck - dealer may help out if all servicing etc through them.
catch-22
12th February 2017, 04:10 PM
Timing belts done? it may have let go... :(
Yeah timing belts done and water and oil pumps and other things.
LandyAndy
12th February 2017, 05:49 PM
Yeah timing belts done and water and oil pumps and other things.
You got that service done whilst in Geraldton didn't you????
Have you rang them??? I'm sure they will go into bat for you if they can in any way.
Every little bit helps.
Andrew
catch-22
12th February 2017, 09:51 PM
You got that service done whilst in Geraldton didn't you????
Have you rang them??? I'm sure they will go into bat for you if they can in any way.
Every little bit helps.
Andrew
G'day Andy, yeah, sure did. That was the big one plus I had several other things done, some of which was under warranty.
Then I had an A level service in Adelaide followed by a turbo gasket replacement.
LandyAndy
12th February 2017, 10:32 PM
Have a chat with them,they are well known to be AWESOME.
I'm sure they will help you out.
GOODLUCK.
Andrew
LandyAndy
6th March 2017, 06:42 PM
Any further news????
Wondering how you got on.
Thanks
Andrew
Guppy
16th March 2017, 09:44 AM
Same thing happened to my 2010 D4 at 75K km's - I had extended warranty but Alliance refused to pay up. LR Aus came to the rescue. The service guy showed me the bill Just under $19K
Gup
catch-22
22nd March 2017, 04:35 PM
Hi all,
Well, here it is. Just picked up the Disco with a new motor.
2009 model D4 3.0 SDV6, 187,000ks, purchased as an Approved vehicle when it was 5 years old and tacked on a Land Rover backed Alliance extended warranty. You can do this when purchasing used from a dealer. All warranties ran out in October of 2016.
Land Rover Australia paid 75% of the total costs for the motor, accessories required, and labour. As I had to pay for 25%, it comes with a Land Rover backed 1 year, 20,000k warranty.
I’m certainly very grateful for LRA assistance. They did the right thing. Without them, I would’ve sold the Disco for scrap.
The team at Austral, now Brisbane City Land Rover, were fantastic and I cannot recommend them enough. If I lived in the area, I would happily take the Disco there (and having dealt with a new dealer further South, Brisbane City is the ONLY placed I’d take it).
Thank you LRA and Brisbane City LR.
rar110
22nd March 2017, 05:58 PM
Great to hear a good news story from LRA. Was it another bearing failure?
DiscoMick
22nd March 2017, 07:08 PM
That's great to hear.
LandyAndy
22nd March 2017, 07:11 PM
Great News.
Good to see JRA looking after a customer who has stayed loyal with dealer servicing.
ENJOY
Andrew
mr_squiggle
22nd March 2017, 09:52 PM
So what was the root cause of the failure, did they tell you?
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