Shingleback (Polly/Plastic) Sill Tanks for 110's

[weeds]

The 130 drivers side has been completed and tested and shingleback has indicated he might do 110's next given there might be more demand.

I'm keen, well defiantly interested in a drivers side diesel and passenger water

Anybody else interested??

110 Wagon v Hardtop...are they the same underneath? Given I'm in the minority.

[Robmacca]

The 130 drivers side has been completed and tested and shingleback has indicated he might do 110's next given there might be more demand.

I'm keen, well defiantly interested in a drivers side diesel and passenger water

Anybody else interested??

110 Wagon v Hardtop...are they the same underneath? Given I'm in the minority.

x1..... (Price dependant though)

Fuel both sides &/or Fuel & Water

[stewie110]

The 130 drivers side has been completed and tested and shingleback has indicated he might do 110's next given there might be more demand.

I'm keen, well defiantly interested in a drivers side diesel and passenger water

Anybody else interested??

110 Wagon v Hardtop...are they the same underneath? Given I'm in the minority.
I am interested for a 110 wagon with apt rock sliders.

[alien]

I've got my hand up for a LH tank for water in the other thread.
Still thinking about a RH one for fuel.

[KeithMac]

Interested - depending on price - 110 Wagon, passenger water.

[weeds]

The count is at 9 (yes or pending price)...although there are some posts that have been lost.

5 passenger
4 drivers

[muddy]

interested depending on $ for either 1or 2

[Gumnut]

Interested fuel and water for 130, as per most, price dependent...

Gumnut

[Shingleback]

Hi all, I know most want a 110 sill tank, but go to the verandah and check out the 130 tank which will give you a good idea on what they will look like and the price.

Cheers, Andrew


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0JJ03v7cIo

[Robmacca]

I'm more interested in the 110 versions.....




x1..... (Price dependant though)

Fuel both sides &/or Fuel & Water

[JoeFriend]

Weeds and Shingleback - are we going to just use this thread or start a new one for numbers?

Based on about 800 for the 130, I would assume it's slightly less, although perhaps not.

I am still keen on both sides. I would prefer fuel on the drivers side and water on the passenger side, the justification being that the drivers side will hold more based on tanks made by other companies.

[weeds]

Hi Joe

Dunno.....so long as we post somewhere I'm sure it will sort itself out.

I believe the driver will be larger capacity due to the battery box on passenger side.

I have budgeted $800 each, it would only be a small reduction in the amount of plastic/poly therefore price may not change too much.

[weeds]

I'm more interested in the 110 versions.....

I'm working/budgeting on $800ea ...I get some pocket money is they come in under.

[Shingleback]

Yes the price will be about the same for a 110, no more. if anything I should have put a bit more on the 130 tanks, not much in it after making all the brackets.

And yes the battery box on the passenger side eats into the tank capacity a bit.

[JoeFriend]

Cool, I am happy to put a deposit down and even do it on a sort of laybuy model - which would actually make it a bit easier for me being honest.

And of course, it depends on whether or not the passenger side is just as ready as the drivers.

[alien]

It looks like the 110 sill tanks could happen soon.
For those who want a tank or two slip over to Who wants shingleback sill tank for a 110? (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/the-verandah/246899-who-wants-shingleback-sill-tank-110-a.html)
If we get the numbers and after deposits are paid we might all have EOFY presents.

[filcar]

Watching and waiting for the 90 tanks ...[biggrin]

[weeds]

Watching and waiting for the 90 tanks ...[biggrin]

Might need a 90 poll

[jon3950]

I'm still interested in these, but the big question for me is will they fit with my Landybitz side steps?

Cheers,
Jon

[weeds]

I'm still interested in these, but the big question for me is will they fit with my Landybitz side steps?

Cheers,
Jon

I just grabbed this pick off the net.....I assume yours are mounted this way?? Over to Andrew
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/575.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/576.jpg

[jon3950]

That looks right.

My other question, which may have already been answered in previous threads, is about baffling.

Do these tanks have any? I could see the weight transfer involved in 50 odd kilos of water or fuel sloshing up and down a tank that length on either side could have some interesting effects on the handling.

Am potentially interested in water for the passenger side and fuel for the drivers.

Cheers,
Jon

[EastFreo]

Hi

also I may have missed it. But where will it fill from?

[Shingleback]

I'm still interested in these, but the big question for me is will they fit with my Landybitz side steps?

Cheers,
Jon


Hi Jon, thanks for the interest. From looking at the photos weeds posted I don't think they will fit without modification. But I could definitely modify them quite simply to fit. And any other type of rock slider or side step can be modified to fit also. Mine obviously fit and I've looked at mulgo's and they will fit also.

Cheers, Andrew.

[Shingleback]

That looks right.

My other question, which may have already been answered in previous threads, is about baffling.

Do these tanks have any? I could see the weight transfer involved in 50 odd kilos of water or fuel sloshing up and down a tank that length on either side could have some interesting effects on the handling.

Am potentially interested in water for the passenger side and fuel for the drivers.

Cheers,
Jon


Thanks for pointing this out, and the short answer is no they don't have traditional baffles as in some steel tanks. However as the tank has the big cut outs for the outriggers these act as baffles, and the sill tank is long and skinny, North south, so not a massive amount of side to side sloshing. I too was wondering how it would go and there are options to reduce sloshing dramatically including filling with plastic balls with holes in them or I've found where to get foam as used in race cars. But I just used the tank with nothing and when full you can tell it's a bit heavier and when the fuel level dropped I didn't notice any weird handling effects at all. So there are options for additional baffling but not worth the extra cost in my opinion. I was also curious as to how low you could use the tank before it sucked air and are happy to say it was still running fine with only 3 litres left when I drained the tank.
Cheers, Andrew.

[weeds]

Give there is a good chance my LH Tank (fingers crossed Andrew proceeds with the moulds) will be water I have already thought of baffle balls is the slosh is to much......if they are filled with diesel than I need to transfer to main tank therefore they will be either full or empty.

For those that may not know what baffle balls look like.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/466.jpg

[Shingleback]

Give there is a good chance my LH Tank (fingers crossed Andrew proceeds with the moulds) will be water I have already thought of baffle balls is the slosh is to much......if they are filled with diesel than I need to transfer to main tank therefore they will be either full or empty.

For those that may not know what baffle balls look like.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/466.jpg



Thanks again weeds, Yep that's the balls I was talking about. Good option, but I still reckon you don't need them.

[Shingleback]

Hi

also I may have missed it. But where will it fill from?

It will fill from the rear of the tank through a big 2" hole. I screwed a 2" elbow into the tank and used 2" filler hose. I have fitted three 1/2" breathers along the tank which all T into each other to make sure there is adequate breathing when filling. And I'm happy to say it all works very well, you can fill the tank with a quick flow truck pump no worries at all.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/388.jpg

[Shingleback]

For anyone interested I'll be going to Corowa this Saturday to have a look at the ex-mil swim in. lots of old Landies, Perenties etc. Look me up if you're there and want to check out the tank on my 130.
Cheers, Andrew 0400124456.

[Robmacca]

The Elbows/Tees that Screw into the Filler & Breather locations, are they easily sourced and I assume they would have to be made of brass as well?

rob


It will fill from the rear of the tank through a big 2" hole. I screwed a 2" elbow into the tank and used 2" filler hose. I have fitted three 1/2" breathers along the tank which all T into each other to make sure there is adequate breathing when filling. And I'm happy to say it all works very well, you can fill the tank with a quick flow truck pump no worries at all.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/388.jpg

[Shingleback]

The Elbows/Tees that Screw into the Filler & Breather locations, are they easily sourced and I assume they would have to be made of brass as well?

rob

Yes the fittings are easily sourced, for the big filler elbow I used a 2" plastic fitting from a plumbing supply shop. The salesman even looked up the specs for me to make sure they are diesel resistant. Was about $10 from memory. The small brass fittings from bearing supply type shops or eBay. If it looks like I'll sell a few I will offer to supply all fittings.

Cheers, Andrew. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/378.jpg

[Robmacca]

Good to know.... I assume the filler is not located where it would pelted with stones, etc?

rob




Yes the fittings are easily sourced, for the big filler elbow I used a 2" plastic fitting from a plumbing supply shop. The salesman even looked up the specs for me to make sure they are diesel resistant. Was about $10 from memory. The small brass fittings from bearing supply type shops or eBay. If it looks like I'll sell a few I will offer to supply all fittings.

Cheers, Andrew. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/378.jpg

[Witchdoctor]

Anti surge balls are way to big (small ones are 195mm)

Just had a look at whats available with surge in mind, you can look at bio balls from the fish tank industry or plastic practise golf ball, both are around 40mm round so are small enough to fit in the neck of the filler.

I will be going the way of the golf ball for my fuel tank.

Cheers
Dave

[Robmacca]

Good to know.... I assume the filler is not located where it would pelted with stones, etc?

rob



I add to this what I experienced with my Watertank on our Campertrailer. We had the plastic fittings for the Filler and outlets on the watertank. During our last outback trip along some pretty stoney country roads, a stone bounced up and hit the plastic filler connections and broken it off, resulting in loss of water. I was just wondering how protected these plastic fittings are against stones, etc....

[Shingleback]

I add to this what I experienced with my Watertank on our Campertrailer. We had the plastic fittings for the Filler and outlets on the watertank. During our last outback trip along some pretty stoney country roads, a stone bounced up and hit the plastic filler connections and broken it off, resulting in loss of water. I was just wondering how protected these plastic fittings are against stones, etc....

Yes very good point about stones. I haven't got around to it yet but I will be rigging up either a rubber or sheet metal guard to protect from any damage from stones. instead of plastic, steel or brass fittings could be used also, but a guard still probably a good idea.

[alien]

Well, I got to see the fitted tank on Saturday[bigrolf]

Extremely neat the way the brackets hold it in place and the rolled edge looks neater the then sharp corners that some steel sill tanks have.
I discussed my preferred fill method for fuel of using the original filler and will look into how a pipe could be plumbed to suit.
I've got an idea for a neat, out of the way setup but want to do some more investigating and discuss it with Andrew first.
Protecting the elbow, if used would be simple as mounting points for a protective panel can be fitted.

I had a look at the cross section cut of from the first trial, very consistent thickness and I think it will be up to the task for my intended purposes.
I'm keen for a water tank as a priority and have offered my rig for test fitting.


Now all we need is a few more members who are keen.
If we played our cards right tax refunds would appear as the tanks are ready[thumbsupbig]
To get in on the action Who wants shingleback sill tank for a 110? (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/the-verandah/246899-who-wants-shingleback-sill-tank-110-a.html)

[Robmacca]

If this can be achieve I'd be very happy as well as this is really the only spot that I would prefer to fill the tank from as well. Not sure of clearance issues and the wheel up travel clearance and the tyre size will all effect this though.....

rob





Well, I got to see the fitted tank on Saturday

Extremely neat the way the brackets hold it in place and the rolled edge looks neater the then sharp corners that some steel sill tanks have.
[B]I discussed my preferred fill method for fuel of using the original filler and will look into how a pipe could be plumbed to suit.
I've got an idea for a neat, out of the way setup but want to do some more investigating and discuss it with Andrew first.
Protecting the elbow, if used would be simple as mounting points for a protective panel can be fitted.

I had a look at the cross section cut of from the first trial, very consistent thickness and I think it will be up to the task for my intended purposes.
I'm keen for a water tank as a priority and have offered my rig for test fitting.


Now all we need is a few more members who are keen.
If we played our cards right tax refunds would appear as the tanks are ready[thumbsupbig]
To get in on the action Who wants shingleback sill tank for a 110? (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/the-verandah/246899-who-wants-shingleback-sill-tank-110-a.html)

[weeds]

The elbow is at the rear of the tank? Would it need any more protection??

Either way for the RH sill Im pretty certain plenty have used the OEM filler split into two.

For the LH...I haven't really looked.

[alien]

I've seen a fuel sill tank in a 90 with the origional fill point with a Mulgo Y piece.
Not sure if he is member on here but have put out feelers and hope to see him at Melrose again.

LH water could be filled from the top fairly easily through a hose fitting.
I'm still thinking about other options so a Jerry can can be used to top it up.