TOP SPEED for Disco TD5

[duff]

This may be a strange question for a 4WD Forum,,, :oops:

BUT what is the sorts of top speed people are getting from there Disco TD5. 8O
Have any mods made any noticeable changes in top speed ?

[Slunnie]

Standard engine, auto, standard tyres, 2" lift, bar, fully loaded I've had 160km/h flat out on level roads. And before all the do gooders jump up and down, it was in the NT and the roads were clear.

I'm now chipped and intercooled, though have not had the opportunity to fang it again, but I suspect it'll go lots quicker. 8)

[hiline]

i've had mt TD5 fender up to 180k's 8O 8O

also on a flat road with a chip and it wanted to go more https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/


the car was only a couple of months old mind you, i wouldn't even try it now :wink:

[101RRS]

I think there is some dreaming going on here

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">was it still on the back of the semi at the time.....?

on its way to the dealer perhaps......?</span>

[hiline]

it was on a back road from Ballarat https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

no dreaming going on here https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[rangieman]

geez ray your realy copping it lattly who have you crossed https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[hiline]

as the old say goes https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

i must have run over a china man 8O 8O 8O

but i think its his whole bloody family :wink:

[hiline]

and i dont dare tell them i've over taken cars at 140k's with my campervan in tow https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Originally posted by hiline
and i dont dare tell them i've over taken cars at 140k's with my campervan in tow https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/



<span style="color:blue">probably cos they wouldnt believe you....</span>

[hiline]

i dont care https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

i know whats true :wink:

[DEFENDERZOOK]

[quote=hiline]and i dont dare tell them i've over taken cars at 140k's with my campervan in tow https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/



<span style="color:blue">probably cos they wouldnt believe you....</span>





<span style="color:blue">ps.....and parked cars dont count.......</span>

[hiline]

maybe next time i'll take some pics 8O https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :wink:


that will prove it

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">have you been drinking the christmas spirits again....?</span>

[hiline]

[quote=DEFENDERZOOK]<span style="color:blue">have you been drinking the christmas spirits again....?</span>

that starts tomorrow https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ and finishes in 3 weeks

[MickG]

Originally posted by hiline
i've had mt TD5 fender up to 180k's 8O 8O

also on a flat road with a chip and it wanted to go more https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/


the car was only a couple of months old mind you, i wouldn't even try it now :wink:

8O Astounded.....all I can say really. Actually no! I have driven a sports car at this speed and had to back off, you must have one hell of a balanced fender!!

[duff]

MickG 8O Actually I would say you must have been in a very unbalanced sports car 8O 8O 8O (maybe a 1940 model)TIC

Even an ugly V6 Magna wagon hire car I had last year cruised extremely comfortably at 180kmh thru the NT stretch. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

This is not to say I have seen a 180kmh Defender https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ , but if it is as well behaved as the disco's at 160 8) then they should be pleasureable 8) . . its chassis should handle the same...ish as a Disco.

HILINE ,,What mods get the defender upto 180....because that is impressive,, 8O not unimaginable though https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ apart from the boxier exterior trying to punch its way up to 180kmh,,, I guess it is just a matter of HP at that end of the gear box. But geessss it must be screwing some ponies. :?

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Originally posted by duff
HILINE ,,What mods get the defender upto 180....because that is impressive,, not unimaginable though apart from the boxier exterior trying to punch its way up to 180kmh,,, I guess it is just a matter of HP at that end of the gear box. But geessss it must be screwing some ponies.

<span style="color:blue">it was chipped....and all was still new and working fine......


and it was a long stretch of road....

and did i mention it was a long stretch of road......</span>

[barryj]

Originally posted by hiline
maybe next time i'll take some pics 8O https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :wink:


that will prove it

The easiest way to prove it is to let the cops give you a pic or two :oops:

[hiline]

like i said before the car was brand new around 2-3 weeks old at the time

it had the chip upgrade also https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

with the upgraded chip its supposedly pushing 145kw's

also at 180k's its not for the faint hearted https://www.aulro.com/afvb/


i woulded even try it now way to dangerous

[Rosco]

Originally posted by duff

This is not to say I have seen a 180kmh Defender https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ , but if it is as well behaved as the disco's at 160

I've driven both for quite a while ........... it isn't :roll:

The TD5 Fender at 140 is a white knuckle event 8O 8O 8O

That's apart from the engine scream, due to the lower gearing :twisted:

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Originally posted by Rosco+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rosco)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-duff

This is not to say I have seen a 180kmh Defender https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ , but if it is as well behaved as the disco's at 160

I've driven both for quite a while ........... it isn't :roll:

The TD5 Fender at 140 is a white knuckle event 8O 8O 8O

That's apart from the engine scream, due to the lower gearing :twisted:[/b][/quote]




<span style="color:blue">mines been to 150kph....down hill with a tailwind and a box trailer behind
roofracks and spare on top.....would have done more....but ran out of hill....

and its got 70,000 on the clock and the tyres.....

felt no different to doing 110-120kph....but in a straight line....</span>

[MickG]

Originally posted by duff
MickG 8O Actually I would say you must have been in a very unbalanced sports car 8O 8O 8O (maybe a 1940 model)TIC

Even an ugly V6 Magna wagon hire car I had last year cruised extremely comfortably at 180kmh thru the NT stretch. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

This is not to say I have seen a 180kmh Defender https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ , but if it is as well behaved as the disco's at 160 8) then they should be pleasureable 8) . . its chassis should handle the same...ish as a Disco.

I hear you duff, it was however an extremely well balanced ride at 180 (Nissan 350z) and could easily have done more, it was more the fact that I was travelling at that speed on a norrow road and thought I should be sensible and back off.......got kids to look after and all :wink: But, having travelled at that speed I am still amazed that a. the defender got there and b. it wasn't a white knuckle ride........good effort for giving it a go but you wont catch me trying to get that out of my D2 :wink: I'll buy another 350z for those sorts of speed 8)

Aye, Mick

[BigT]

all you really need to know is they over take smoke belching cruisers & pootrols with ease and leave them for dead :twisted:

[Maggot4x4]

I have been in Rays truck and seen him drive, I would believe it.

I'll tell you whats funny, the faster my ZZR1100 went the more stable it felt. At 280kph (Not a typo) it felt like it was on rails.

[disconut]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2005/12/14.jpg

When I wish upon a star, make my truck into a sports car!

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Trev

[xlr8it]

Blackbird CBR1100xx @305 kph felt very stable.

[one_iota]

The last time I exceeded 180 kph was in one of these:

http://www.alfa75.info/Alfa75%203.0%20V6%20QV%20-%2002.jpg

On the road to Coonabarabran....

At that speed the thing sat down on the road and said faster.

Then there was the blow dry drive after the Sunday morning clean... the hill climb up the old Pacific Hwy from Brooklyn to Hornsby....

The sound of the 3.0 V6 that just wanted to keep spinning until the rev limiter over ruled.

Now I am getting nostalgic :cry:

I wonder if I can buy it back :wink:

It was assembled like a first timer's airfix kit :wink:

[Jamo]

There's actually a warning in the D3 handbook advissing that its not a sports car and shouldn't be driven as such. Maybe they should put one in the Fenders handbook as well!

My GPZ1000 was stable at 260kph, but slowing down again was interesting.

Now the Forester at 160kph on a gravel road; stable and totally in control (as long as the roo's stayed away!)

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Originally posted by Jamo
There's actually a warning in the D3 handbook advissing that its not a sports car and shouldn't be driven as such. Maybe they should put one in the Fenders handbook as well!

My GPZ1000 was stable at 260kph, but slowing down again was interesting.

Now the Forester at 160kph on a gravel road; stable and totally in control (as long as the roo's stayed away!)
<span style="color:blue">



stopping in a defender from high speeds is never a problem.....

just back off the accelerator slightly and you will lose 50kph instantly!!</span>

[Quiggers]

I've got a speedo in the Disco, accurate to within, err, days.
Cheers, GQ

[Jamo]

Of course Landcruisers and Patrols can do over 180kph...

You just have to find a high enough cliff....

[Rosco]

Originally posted by Jamo
Of course Landcruisers and Patrols can do over 180kph...

You just have to find a high enough cliff....

I've been putting my mind to unusual stress in this regard .. :roll:

The gearing doesn't change, nor does the govenor ... at 4500 RPM

Ergo ... say 100kph at about 3000 rpm ......... that gives a max possible speed of about 150 kph at 4500 rpm .........


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[djam1]

Sorry Guys this will be offensive BUT
My old stage 1 Series 3 Land Rover with an unrestricted 3.5 litre V8 will still pull 150-160 Kmh

In the Territory so Its quite legal, I use to work for a company that regularly travelled from one site to another in a Camry in excess of 200 Kmh
(about 1200 km one way) despite all the brain washing in the Eastern States and the revenue raising publicity there are times that high speeds can be travelled safely with out incident.

Merry Christmas

[Maggot4x4]

Originally posted by djam1
Sorry Guys this will be offensive BUT
My old stage 1 Series 3 Land Rover with an unrestricted 3.5 litre V8 will still pull 150-160 Kmh

In the Territory so Its quite legal, I use to work for a company that regularly travelled from one site to another in a Camry in excess of 200 Kmh
(about 1200 km one way) despite all the brain washing in the Eastern States and the revenue raising publicity there are times that high speeds can be travelled safely with out incident.

Merry Christmas

I used to have Elders as customers for company cars, their drivers in SA&NT used to complain about the Falcons being speed limited to 190kph.

[discokid]

I would agree with Hi line on this one. A defender is capable of those speeds but Ive only seen it with chev converted and plently of HP and suspension work.

We have the police doing a speed trap last year at one of our races and the top speed was 197kph and thats offroad!

I only managed 139kph but still had plenty left. Ive hit 170kph in other races.

see http://www.offroadoz.net.au/Events/WA_Even.../speed_trap.php (http://www.offroadoz.net.au/Events/WA_Events/2005/Rd_5_Hyden_Humps/speed_trap.php)

for real world speeds in 4wds and other off road machines.Car 832 is a GQ patrol and it was clocked at 178kph

[Jamo]

Gearing doesn't make any diference.
gravitational acelleration is 9.8m/s/s

so the heavier it is, the harder it falls

Merry Christmas!

[duff]

So,, is it safe to say that a standard Average Disco should get 150-160 kmh ? on a level average day. :?:

Has anyone had a chipped Td5 disco at its top speed and if so what kind of speed are we talking. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

I understand that the peak improvement from the chip in top gear is at about 80-90kmh (torque), but there should be an increase in top speed from the increased hp, I hope. 8)

There is heaps of gearing left before the govenor limits the disco at about 4850rpm, I guess you could with ,,,endless HP,,, do about180-190 before the govenor acts........ :? Again, I do not say this is achievable with the 145KW the chip gives you,, but I am intereseted to hear what people have done in a chipped disco. :?:

[disconut]

Guys,
Unless you live in the territory, top speed is irrelevant. Chipping is about torque. I went from 300Nm to 450Nm and can climb the range in 5th gear at the legal limit. Thats impressive!
It also tows the 1500 kg caravan effortlessly. Thats useful!

Top speed? who cares. Beyond 110 klm/hr you are looking at losing your licence, in QLD anyways.
Even if you drag race, torque is the figure you want to increase.

Trev.

[crump]

had my Fender chipped a week ago, 30000ks on odometer, 150ks comes up pretty easy,and feels a lot faster. We are talking indicated top speed here, I want Hilines speedo! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ That said I have heaps of stuff bolted to the thing, so heaps of drag. I reckon 180km would be acheivable given enuff road and insanity.

[101RRS]

Originally posted by Rosco+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rosco)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Jamo
Of course Landcruisers and Patrols can do over 180kph...

You just have to find a high enough cliff....

I've been putting my mind to unusual stress in this regard .. :roll:

The gearing doesn't change, nor does the govenor ... at 4500 RPM

Ergo ... say 100kph at about 3000 rpm ......... that gives a max possible speed of about 150 kph at 4500 rpm .........


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There is always a party pooper amongst the mix to spoil the fun and bring reason to the exaggerated discussion - I was going to add that a fender or a discovery will only get above 160kph if being towed by a L series Freelander but I guess Roscos quote makes it irrelevant - however the freelander is doing 2700 rpm at 100kph which means it will do 166 at readline or 185 on the rev limiter.

Merry Christmas everyone

Gazzz

[crump]

Originally posted by disconut
Guys,
Unless you live in the territory, top speed is irrelevant. Chipping is about torque. I went from 300Nm to 450Nm and can climb the range in 5th gear at the legal limit. Thats impressive!
It also tows the 1500 kg caravan effortlessly. Thats useful!

Top speed? who cares. Beyond 110 klm/hr you are looking at losing your licence, in QLD anyways.
Even if you drag race, torque is the figure you want to increase.

Trev.

Yep, and it makes 120kmh cruising feel effortless, but dont it bugger your fuel consumption, 450ks from last tank. :cry: :cry:

[disconut]

Originally posted by crump


Yep, and it makes 120kmh cruising feel effortless, but dont it bugger your fuel consumption, 450ks from last tank. :cry: :cry:

Funnily enough, mine has remained about the same, 11Ltrs / 100 klms.
can get 9.8 on a trip to the coast. (at 110 - 120 klms / hr). Whoops 120? :oops: . Thas why the cruise control will help me! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Trev.

PS I took the roof rack off and came back from 12.4 Ltrs / 100 klms.

[crump]

it will probably improve when I stop fanging it to prove to myself that it was worth the money. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Maggot4x4]

Originally posted by garrycol+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(garrycol)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Rosco@
<!--QuoteBegin-Jamo
Of course Landcruisers and Patrols can do over 180kph...

You just have to find a high enough cliff....

I've been putting my mind to unusual stress in this regard .. :roll:

The gearing doesn't change, nor does the govenor ... at 4500 RPM

Ergo ... say 100kph at about 3000 rpm ......... that gives a max possible speed of about 150 kph at 4500 rpm .........


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There is always a party pooper amongst the mix to spoil the fun and bring reason to the exaggerated discussion - I was going to add that a fender or a discovery will only get above 160kph if being towed by a L series Freelander but I guess Roscos quote makes it irrelevant - however the freelander is doing 2700 rpm at 100kph which means it will do 166 at readline or 185 on the rev limiter.

Merry Christmas everyone

Gazzz[/b][/quote]

You are assuming stock tyre size. :!:

[duff]

The torque almost go's without saying,,,,,,,, it is fantastic to get heavy lumps going https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ ,,,,,POI (mind if you are drag racing then the HP will get you over at the top end) https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ but back to the original point.

Can any of you guys that actually have the chipped TD5 tell me if the increase in Torque and Horse Power is reflected in the top speed. in theory it should.
My TD5 has had its ecu chipped and I then towed my van for a 100 odd k's felt better https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ , then drove for about 30 mins in the rain without the trailer felt good https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ , then broke down in Mackay :cry: .
Two belt pulleys and the gearbox have been changed under warranty https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ . now it feels swifter(just) up to 140kmh and then eventually gets to about 160kmh, but the improvement is not great :? , infact I am so unimpressed that I am thinking that the dealer has flashed it back to standard :evil: and the improvement is only from the gearbox and pulley change. :cry:

This is why I ask the question.... Top speed is easier to compare over the internet than 0 to 60 times which would indicate clearly the increased torque. we all hold our feet flat more or less alike. We press the button on a stop watch quite differently i have found. 8)
However if everyone wants to quote their 0 to 100 times I might even get an indication. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
I know I could just get the computer plugged in and checked,, but the nearset one is 830km's away and much of the road is a bit wet now. 8O

[hiline]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>However if everyone wants to quote their 0 to 100 times I might even get an indication.[/b][/quote]

now this sounds like fun https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

i will try it tomorrow for you https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :wink:

chipped TD5 defender with big exhaust

[timberwolf_302]

How about old 4 speed Carbied V8 Rangies? How fast have any of you had one of them?

Last night i had mine doing an indicated 165ish, before I ran out of road. I might have been able to go much faster, the engine has a bit of a performance cam and was only doing 4500rpm, and it revs to 6500rpm before it valve bounces...

I wonder what it could do on a longer straight?

Be buggered on any corners though, especially with soft springs and no sway bars...

And this was done on a deserted stretch of back road mind you...I am all about public safety.