A sort of press release for the new Defender...

[spudfan]

Origionally posted on the Defender2 site. Let's see what you make of it.

Land Rover will indeed be producing a replacement for it's iconic Defender model. Our accountants, sorry engineers, have been listening very closely to what owners have to say. Though generally regarded as an "icon" we fully acknowledge that the out going Defender was not without it's faults. Land Rover have been heartily criticised for not investing in the Defender model over the years but this was a "future planning" strategy by our accountants, sorry engineers. We had to prove that there was just no market ( by that our accountants mean a profitable one) for a basic, easily repairable model with limited expensive add on optional extras at point of sale.
We heard people complain about the rusting chassis and crossmember on the out going Defender. We could indeed have gone down the road of using high grade steel and galvanising it but we have opted for a new strategy. We (well our accountants) have decided that you will not be getting a separate chassis on the new, yet to be introduced model, so this will eliminate the problems associated with a rusting chassis.
The body on the proposed replacement vehicle will make extensive use of aluminium. It will be of monocoque structure making it very expensive to repair. This is a deliberate strategy on our part to ensure that the vehicle is never taken off road.
There were also issues reported with the linkage between the main gearbox and the transfer box. We have decided to eliminate this problem by not giving customers a transfer box on the proposed Defender replacement. So if we eliminate the component we eliminate the problem.
One of the biggest problems our franchised dealers had with the out going Defender model was the issue of owners home servicing the vehicle. This will no longer be a problem as the proposed replacement will be 100% non user friendly and will require the use of major diagnostic equipment during basic servicing. This will also eliminate the problem of messy driveways and give owners more time to spend with their families, instead of spending it underneath the vehicle.
We have had early derivatives of this proposed vehicle out for consumer testing with outstanding and positive feedback.
It seems it is perfectly suited for going to schools and supermarkets. A standard feature is the inclusion of an audible warning telling children to remove their foot wear before entering into the opulent interior. Another standard feature will be the inclusion of a coin holder on the passenger door trim. This will enable the owner to tell a child, deemed too dirty to enter the vehicle to take coins from the coin holder and to get the bus home. A simple but practical idea.
We have not forgotten the seasoned off roader brigade (and how we wish we could). For those who insist on taking this vehicle off road it will be fitted with multi recovery points both front and back. It will also have satellite communication systems that will allow the stuck vehicle to be located anywhere on the planet.
More to follow...

[blackrangie]

Alluminiun and monocoque chassis being a deliberate strategy to ensure it doesnt go offroad? Cant agree with that.
No transfer case?.. Highly doubt it as the Disco 5 will have 2 speed transfer case..and the defender is being pitched as the most rugged offroader built by Landrover..even if it didn't a 9 speed auto with the right low and high ratios would be awesome offroad/onroad and very reliable and tourable. Opulent interior? I doubt it, no doubt the interior will be more universal than the old defender, however it will be no Range Rover Inside

[Pickles2]

That's not "fair dinkum",...it's just someone's idea of a joke!
Pickles.

[blackrangie]

That's not "fair dinkum",...it's just someone's idea of a joke!
Pickles.
Yes Pickles, but the joke is intended to make fun of Landrovers new Defender using "facts", im pointing out that most of it is rubbish.

[Pickles2]

Yes Pickles, but the joke is intended to make fun of Landrovers new Defender using "facts", im pointing out that most of it is rubbish.
Yes, I realize that, but knowing that, I suppose my thoughts were that it was not worthy of any detailed response.
But, isn't it true that JLR are doing a really mighty job of keeping "New" Defender an absolute secret!
Pickles.

[blackrangie]

Yes, I realize that, but knowing that, I suppose my thoughts were that it was not worthy of any detailed response.
But, isn't it true that JLR are doing a really mighty job of keeping "New" Defender an absolute secret!
Pickles.
Yeah couldn't resist because some will think the rubbish in there is fact..agreed greatest new model coverup in history!

[loanrangie]

A little early for April 1st.

[Homestar]

Yeah couldn't resist because some will think the rubbish in there is fact..agreed greatest new model coverup in history!

It's not hard to hide something that doesn't exist....

[blackrangie]

It's not hard to hide something that doesn't exist....
Haha

[Stuart02]

It may be a joke but there's plenty to be said for reductionism as an engineering principle. Dual range is a PITA that may not be necessary for much longer. I can't wait. And just cos monocoque shells haven't been designed with accessories and recovery in mind doesn't mean they can't be. And some would say aluminium is the only material for a proper Land Rover...

[spudfan]

I have as much insight regarding the replacement Defender as anyone else, i.e. none. The above post was just intended as a light hearted chapter in it's on going development. If you look at the model line up and their specifications on the Land Rover website you will get an indication as to the direction Land Rover wish to take the brand. Sorry I poked the bear and the hornets' nest. Time to put one's head down below the parapet I think.

[blackrangie]

I have as much insight regarding the replacement Defender as anyone else, i.e. none. The above post was just intended as a light hearted chapter in it's on going development. If you look at the model line up and their specifications on the Land Rover website you will get an indication as to the direction Land Rover wish to take the brand. Sorry I poked the bear and the hornets' nest. Time to put one's head down below the parapet I think.
Haha..its all good..was just a repost..but good to clear up a few misconceptions in the process [emoji6]

[Pickles2]

I have as much insight regarding the replacement Defender as anyone else, i.e. none. The above post was just intended as a light hearted chapter in it's on going development. If you look at the model line up and their specifications on the Land Rover website you will get an indication as to the direction Land Rover wish to take the brand. Sorry I poked the bear and the hornets' nest. Time to put one's head down below the parapet I think.
Not at all mate, it's all good.
And of course there is a "New" Defender, it's just that JLR have done a superb job at keeping it secret.
I don't profess to have any idea of it,...just the normal "guesses" & snippets that come up,..."aluminium monocoque chassis, ingenium engines, 3 levels of specs, most advanced Defender ever, we realize Defender is an icon, the new Defender will ensure it remains so"....all that sort of stuff from JLR, which means absolutely nothing to me,....But there's no doubt it's coming, .....I believe design & specs are pretty well locked in, I believe they are testing the running gear in disguise NOW,.....all IMHO of course.
I also believe that when it is "finally" released, it will be an outstanding success, as all other recent JLR releases have been. Whether it appeals to me, or many on here I suppose, or any fans of the current Defender, is another matter I suppose, because the likes of us, Worldwide, were buying at most 15000 units per annum,...JLR will be looking to sell a lot more than that with the new model, and I'm confident that they will.
Pickles.

[incisor]

latest pics make it look like a hilux...

2019 Land Rover Defender ute (https://www.4x4australia.com.au/news/1703/2019-land-rover-defender-ute)

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[rijidij]

Got this in an email today............

Full article here 4x4 Australia (https://www.4x4australia.com.au/news/1703/2019-land-rover-defender-ute?utm_source=exacttarget&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=62429&utm_content=557403&user_id=8bf7b46bde85c2c189b76e81e5631abe343d256f)

Just the old DC100 with a few Photoshop mods to the wrap around lights and extended body.
They obviously have as little idea as anyone as to the actual new design, but I suppose they have to fill their pages with something.
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The old DC100 idea...............
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Cheers, Murray

[Stuart02]

Like most LR fans I love and respect the old Deefer but for my taste and purposes always went with Discos. Now my wife has her little Evoque, and I've read everything about the New Discovery, I'm seriously thinking a Defender could be all the things I liked about the older Discos, and be our next family adventure vehicle.
So yeah, they'll absolutely lose some die hards but they'll pick up a lot more sales from both existing and new LR buyers...

[steane]

I know someone that has seen the new Defender, it definitely exists.

A NDA prevents him telling me much but he did tell me that I'd like it a lot, and that it's comparable to G-Class. Plenty of military interest apparently, so while there might be some upmarket variants, I'm guessing there will be some far more practical/sensible ones as well, which fits with what JLR has been saying in recent times.

Ineos are the crew to watch IMO. They are getting set to build a no-nonsense go-anywhere 4X4 in the spirit of Defender and plan to sell it around the world. Claiming Defender pricing as well (not the post manufacture inflated prices).

[blackrangie]

I know someone that has seen the new Defender, it definitely exists.

A NDA prevents him telling me much but he did tell me that I'd like it a lot, and that it's comparable to G-Class. Plenty of military interest apparently, so while there might be some upmarket variants, I'm guessing there will be some far more practical/sensible ones as well, which fits with what JLR has been saying in recent times.

Ineos are the crew to watch IMO. They are getting set to build a no-nonsense go-anywhere 4X4 in the spirit of Defender and plan to sell it around the world. Claiming Defender pricing as well (not the post manufacture inflated prices).
Very interesting

[blackrangie]

Got this in an email today............

Full article here 4x4 Australia (https://www.4x4australia.com.au/news/1703/2019-land-rover-defender-ute?utm_source=exacttarget&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=62429&utm_content=557403&user_id=8bf7b46bde85c2c189b76e81e5631abe343d256f)

Just the old DC100 with a few Photoshop mods to the wrap around lights and extended body.
They obviously have as little idea as anyone as to the actual new design, but I suppose they have to fill their pages with something.
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The old DC100 idea...............
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Cheers, Murray
Even though its the old concept and just photoshop, it does look better..but not good enough for Landrover or a Defender Replacement

[LandyAndy]

Here you go,its a D4 dual cab[bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf]
2019 Land Rover Defender ute (https://www.4x4australia.com.au/news/1703/2019-land-rover-defender-ute)
Andrew

[spudfan]

I know someone that has seen the new Defender, it definitely exists.

A NDA prevents him telling me much but he did tell me that I'd like it a lot, and that it's comparable to G-Class. Plenty of military interest apparently, so while there might be some upmarket variants, I'm guessing there will be some far more practical/sensible ones as well, which fits with what JLR has been saying in recent times.

Ineos are the crew to watch IMO. They are getting set to build a no-nonsense go-anywhere 4X4 in the spirit of Defender and plan to sell it around the world. Claiming Defender pricing as well (not the post manufacture inflated prices).

The piece that says " Plenty of military interest apparently" is interesting. The military usually buy adaptable vehicles which can fulfill a variety of roles so the core vehicle must be built with various adaptations in mind. Could be light at the end of the tunnel yet....
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