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Homestar
7th March 2017, 08:08 PM
Need advice from the brains trust please.

the handbrake on Chucky went 'ping' a few weeks ago and the handbrake lever went loose and non functional.

Finally got around to looking at it and it looks like something's parted company up at the handbrake lever in the cabin. Pulled the boot back and it looks like the mechanism is mounted under the cowl which doesn't come off.

So anyone here know how to get it apart without dismantling the front of the vehicle?

As always, any help appreciated. :)

Homestar
8th March 2017, 01:08 PM
So no one else had a hand brake issue with their 101? [bigsad]

101RRS
8th March 2017, 02:23 PM
Never had a problem with my handbrake but just had a look at mine - just remove the grill and access from inside the tunnel - looks quite easy actually - the bracket that holds the handbrake bolts to the side of the inside of the tunnel on the drivers side.

The bracket taken with the grill lifted off
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/678.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/gazzz21/media/My%20101/P1010003_zpsreodmywx.jpg.html)

The Handbrake bracket bolt heads on the inside of the tunnel
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/679.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/gazzz21/media/My%20101/P1010004_zpsefsr6hwi.jpg.html)

Looks easy to remove.

Homestar
8th March 2017, 05:14 PM
Thanks heaps Garry. Just checked mine and I have a heap of stuff in the way of mine (endless air stuff) which is why I didn't twig. :) And it was dark. [wink11]

Looks like the bowen cable has snapped so no quick fix, I'll get one made when I get back from corowa. Will have to take a wheel chock with me. :D

101RRS
8th March 2017, 10:24 PM
I would have thought AJ would have had a cable.

Did you see the pics I put up - they were there and now have disappeared - they were linked to photobucket. Looks like the site is still taking hits.

Homestar
9th March 2017, 04:58 AM
Pics still show fine for me.

Even if AJ has one, there's no way I can get it in time from him anyway, but I'll give him a call.

Cheers.

101 Ron
9th March 2017, 07:27 AM
I had to do the cable on my parking brake many years ago.
The standard cable is a unusual type with a flat blade inner arrangement.
With age it gets stiff and too much friction...........then one day the top end of the inner part of the cable will fold in on itself when releasing the brake.
Then it will snap the next time you apply the parking brake.
It is possible to replace the cable with a metal rod, but doing this loses mechanical advantage.
The local cable makers to me fabricated a new cable in the normal Bowden style which when done correctly works better than the standard cable.
A little while ago I had a Toyota 80 series owner give me a hard time about being a Landrover owner around the camp fire.....the usual stuff......leaks oil and snaps axles etc.
The next day the same person for different reasons was riding in the passengers seat of the 101.
Should have seen the look on their face when I applied the parking brake on a 45 degree slope just using my little finger under the lever and it easily held.
Ron

101 Ron
9th March 2017, 07:52 AM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/656.jpg (http://s131.photobucket.com/user/101Ron/media/PC020636.jpg.html)

101 Ron
9th March 2017, 07:55 AM
Grease nipple on parking brake linkage bellcrank.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/655.jpg (http://s131.photobucket.com/user/101Ron/media/PC020639.jpg.html)

101 Ron
9th March 2017, 07:58 AM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/654.jpg (http://s131.photobucket.com/user/101Ron/media/PC020638.jpg.html)

101 Ron
9th March 2017, 08:07 AM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/653.jpg (http://s131.photobucket.com/user/101Ron/media/PC020629.jpg.html)

Homestar
9th March 2017, 07:38 PM
Well, I called AJ bright and early this morning and he had a good second hand unit ready for a new home. I made a small (large) detour on the way to a job and grabbed it, so I'll fit it on Saturday. It's in good condition and runs freely back and forth.

He has some other interesting stuff going on too, which will lighten my wallet later this year.

All I have to say at the moment is if you're thinking of getting a Zeus disk brake conversion for your 101 any time soon - hold off. :)

101RRS
9th March 2017, 08:08 PM
All I have to say at the moment is if you're thinking of getting a Zeus disk brake conversion for your 101 any time soon - hold off. :)

Is that the one that a guy in SA developed using modified D3 rear brake disks?? I understand that AJ was going to use his design. I have some pics of it somewhere.

Homestar
11th March 2017, 11:02 AM
That's correct - AJ has 5 sets of rears ready to go and is waiting on his engineer to machine the front sets. What I like the best with this is apart from the adaptors all the parts are off the shelf Land Rover items. The disks do need work to make them fit, but at least they aren't a special.

To look at them on the vehicle they look completely original. With the D1 brake booster they work bloody well as well.

As soon as he has the fronts back, I'll be grabbing a set off him.

Price for the entire kit isn't 100% worked out yet, but the will be cheaper than the Zues conversion - by quite a bit by the looks of it as there is only 1 custom part and 1 modified part and everything else off the shelf or even second hand if that's your thing.

101RRS
11th March 2017, 02:26 PM
As I understand it - as the D3 rear disk has to accommodate a brake drum in the disk housing it can be modified to fit the 101 hub. The inner hole is turned out to fit over the 101 hub - in doing so it takes out the D3 stud holes as the 101 hub diameter is greater than the D3 PCD.

As the D3 brake disk and brake drum is designed to take a set of brake shoes there is enough room after the hub hole has been enlarged for the modified disk to bolt up to the 101 hub in a similar manner as the zeus product. So as you mentioned uses the D3 rear disk (modified), the D3 caliper and I assume a purpose made caliper bracket similar to the zeus one.

Here are some pics of the prototype

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/567.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/gazzz21/media/Forum%20Posts%20Album/Front%20Disk%20Brake_zps58i5ma3h.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/568.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/gazzz21/media/Forum%20Posts%20Album/Front%20Disk%20and%20Caliper_zpsn9q8eoks.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/569.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/gazzz21/media/Forum%20Posts%20Album/Front%20Disk%20Hub_zps8ywxb31z.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/570.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/gazzz21/media/Forum%20Posts%20Album/101%20with%20Disco%203%20disk_zpsyxepl8uj.jpg.html )

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/03/571.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/gazzz21/media/Forum%20Posts%20Album/Fitted%20front%20Disk_zps0hcrkzol.jpg.html)

Homestar
11th March 2017, 04:10 PM
No, not like that.

Uses a machined D3 disk as you said but uses defender calipers and the caliper brakets (on the rear at least) are standard Land Rover items too. Not sure about the fronts, he didn't have any there to look at.

There is an adaptor that fits onto the hub somehow - can't remember exactly how, but it's a bit different to what you've shown.