Disable the Rain Sensistive Wipers

[rocket rod]

My wipers give me the irrits when they rely on the sensor to control them for intermittent operation. They either wiper too many times or not enough in light rain. Tried all the settings. What I'm wondering is if you can disable the sensor in the CCF but still be able to use the intermittent function. ie the sensitivity control now becomes a time delayed wipe .. Like the good old days.

[Oztourer]

I would imagine the rain sensor function is a CCF option but I can't check at the moment. You can adjust the rain sensor sensitivity though. From the D3 owner's manual "...You can increase (a wipe will occurimmediately) or decrease the sensitivity of therain sensor, and therefore the frequency ofwiper operation, by rotating the delay switch-either clockwise or anticlockwise..."

[LandyAndy]

Its been posted in the past,there is a fuse you remove and the wipers default to what you want.
Almost ready to consider the same.The only thing that keeps me sane is making sure they arent on auto until I want them on auto(via the stalk)
Andrew

[scarry]

Hmmm,now where is that fuse?

Mine are an absolutE PITA😩😩

I keep them off auto but sometimes they end up on the setting mistakenly.

[letherm]

Yes, it sure is a shame that we were not given a choice as to enable or disable this feature. That said, I do think the system adapts quite well to different speeds when it is raining. But yes, it can be a PITA at times, especially when it decides it's raining when it's not when you've left it on auto - I turn it off unless it's actually raining.

Martin

[kenl]

There are a number of settings in the CCF that relate to this and I have had a play with them to stop the annoying stuff, like wipers going crazy when there no need (speed related) and just turning them to normal intermittent type wipers, but so far no luck.

That said it is not easy to test these things, I'm sure there is a COMBINATION of settings that would work but so far no luck for me.

There is a setting for the sensitivity of the sensitivity knob and that does make a difference, but my preference would be to just change it to intermittent wipers with the knob controlling the speed.

[Grentarc]

My rain sensing wipers were quite annoying around 50 - 60km/h and 80-90 km/h, so I disabled "Speed Dependent Wipers" in the CCF and now they are fine, no speed changes as I increase speed - they just now seem to rely solely on the rain sensor.

[BMKal]

My rain sensing wipers were quite annoying around 50 - 60km/h and 80-90 km/h, so I disabled "Speed Dependent Wipers" in the CCF and now they are fine, no speed changes as I increase speed - they just now seem to rely solely on the rain sensor.

Have done exactly the same with mine. [wink11]

[rocket rod]

Thanks for all the replies. It's given me a few things to look at in my spare time in the rain.

[LandyAndy]

Ive had the rain sensor changed under warranty,due to the auto headlights doing weird stuff(same sensor I'm told).My auto headlights wouldn't turn on in the dark sometimes,would turn off in the dark,yes that's fun at 110kmh in the bush.
If I leave home without rain the auto wipers will not work until you do a restart in the rain,work that out!!!
Somebody has posted in the past wich fuse to remove,once removed the wipers work like a normal intermittent wiper.
Andrew

[cjc_td5]

If you remove the fuse, do you lose the auto lights as well?

[Grentarc]

If you remove the fuse, do you lose the auto lights as well?
Yes, the Auto position just becomes On

[ATH]

This sort problem with automatic sensing just goes to confirm to me that most of this stuff is rubbish and could be done without. Along with lane departure, driving to close etc. rubbish.
Time I need this sort of crap I'll give up driving.
Maybe I should go back to the Deafener...... at least that would please the Cook. :-))
AlanH.

[mr_squiggle]

This sort problem with automatic sensing just goes to confirm to me that most of this stuff is rubbish and could be done without. Along with lane departure, driving to close etc. rubbish.
Time I need this sort of crap I'll give up driving.
Maybe I should go back to the Deafener...... at least that would please the Cook. :-))
AlanH.

You've got the whole "grumpy old bastard" bit absolutely nailed.......

[101RRS]

To counter the views expressed - my auto wipers work perfectly - the best thing since sliced bread [bigsmile1].

[mr_squiggle]

To counter the views expressed - my auto wipers work perfectly - the best thing since sliced bread [bigsmile1].

Agreed, nothing wrong with mine either.

[tadpole]

My wipers give me the irrits when they rely on the sensor to control them for intermittent operation. They either wiper too many times or not enough in light rain. Tried all the settings. What I'm wondering is if you can disable the sensor in the CCF but still be able to use the intermittent function. ie the sensitivity control now becomes a time delayed wipe .. Like the good old days.

I agree totally and had hoped someone would identify the fuse that can be removed to disable the rain sensor. I no longer use the rain sensor mode prefering to flick the wipers when I need and would love to return to the "good old days" before rain sensing wipers. I don't need a sensor to tell me when to turn wipers on and likewise I don't need a sensor to tell me when to turn headlights on so would love to eliminate these annoying modern features that offer no benefit.
C'mon guys someone must know which fuse to remove or can I retrofit the system fron my Jaguar that works perfectly.

[Grentarc]

I agree totally and had hoped someone would identify the fuse that can be removed to disable the rain sensor. I no longer use the rain sensor mode prefering to flick the wipers when I need and would love to return to the "good old days" before rain sensing wipers. I don't need a sensor to tell me when to turn wipers on and likewise I don't need a sensor to tell me when to turn headlights on so would love to eliminate these annoying modern features that offer no benefit.
C'mon guys someone must know which fuse to remove or can I retrofit the system fron my Jaguar that works perfectly.
Have a look in the manual - it will have it there

[Graeme]

For MY10-12 passenger compartment fuse 31 but it also powers the rear view camera if fitted, according to the handbook.

[jonesfam]

This sort problem with automatic sensing just goes to confirm to me that most of this stuff is rubbish and could be done without. Along with lane departure, driving to close etc. rubbish.
Time I need this sort of crap I'll give up driving.
Maybe I should go back to the Deafener...... at least that would please the Cook. :-))
AlanH.

SWMBO loves the rain sensor wipers. She reckons it is 1 less thing to worry about & when she was driving Ravenshoe - Atherton she reckoned the last thing she needed driving through the hills was to worry about turning on & setting wipers & lights.

I like them when the rain isn't steady, constantly adjusting wiper speed (as in SWMBO's Delica) is a pain.

Jonesfam

[DiscoMick]

I have a Defender so this auto stuff is a foreign land.
However the wife's Mazda has auto wipers, lights and stop and they are great - wife loves them.

[BMKal]

I quite like the "rain sensor" feature in mine - it works well and adjusts the speed / frequency of wiper passes to the volume of rain that is falling.

I was not such a fan of the "speed sensor" feature, which increased the speed / frequency of wiper passes according to the speed at which the vehicle was travelling. I found that this feature on most occasions resulted in the wipers operating unnecessarily fast. As a result of this, I often used to switch the wipers to "manual" operation, especially when travelling at highway speed. [wink11]

Since disabling this "speed sensor" feature in the CCF - I have found that the wipers work better in "auto" and have tended to leave them switched to "auto" regardless of vehicle speed. [biggrin]


"Auto" lights though - I have never used them on this or any other vehicle (SWMBO uses them on her Camry). Personally I can't see the point of them. When it is dark enough, I turn the headlights on. When I don't think that they are needed, I turn them off - simple.
However, judging by the number of people I often see down in Perth driving around at night with no lights turned on at all, I can see the reason for them in heavily built-up areas. Obviously the fact that some can see where they are going due to the presence of street lights means that it is too difficult for them to think that maybe their headlights should be turned on. [bigwhistle]

[LandyAndy]

When on auto and you think they are going too fast,simply wind back the sensitivity to min on the stalk.
Andrew

[BMKal]

When on auto and you think they are going too fast,simply wind back the sensitivity to min on the stalk.
Andrew

This defeats the purpose of the "auto" function. The sensitivity adjustment works well in adjusting the wipers operation for increased / decreased volume of rainfall. I find it better to set the sensitivity where I like it - and not have the vehicle's speed come into the algorithm. [wink11]

[101RRS]

When on auto and you think they are going too fast,simply wind back the sensitivity to min on the stalk.
Andrew

I cannot speak for D4s but on my RRS the stalk speed control does not change the speed on the front wipers (is up to the auto function) - the controller on the stalk works the speed of the rear wiper only.

garry

[Grentarc]

I quite like the "rain sensor" feature in mine - it works well and adjusts the speed / frequency of wiper passes to the volume of rain that is falling.

I was not such a fan of the "speed sensor" feature, which increased the speed / frequency of wiper passes according to the speed at which the vehicle was travelling. I found that this feature on most occasions resulted in the wipers operating unnecessarily fast. As a result of this, I often used to switch the wipers to "manual" operation, especially when travelling at highway speed. [wink11]

Since disabling this "speed sensor" feature in the CCF - I have found that the wipers work better in "auto" and have tended to leave them switched to "auto" regardless of vehicle speed. [biggrin]


"Auto" lights though - I have never used them on this or any other vehicle (SWMBO uses them on her Camry). Personally I can't see the point of them. When it is dark enough, I turn the headlights on. When I don't think that they are needed, I turn them off - simple.
However, judging by the number of people I often see down in Perth driving around at night with no lights turned on at all, I can see the reason for them in heavily built-up areas. Obviously the fact that some can see where they are going due to the presence of street lights means that it is too difficult for them to think that maybe their headlights should be turned on. [bigwhistle]

This is exactly how I feel about mine now that I have disabled the "speed dependent wipers" setting in the CCF - I have the sensitivity set to "just right" and now just leave the stalk in the "Auto" position all the time, unless driving through locusts or such. The Auto function is now perfect.

With the Auto Headlights, it is great for me as I have the low bean set to be my DRLs, so leave the lights on Auto, then when it is dark, the headlights are "on" which means I can use high beam - saves accidentally knocking the arm onto high beam during the day and annoying other drivers

[cjc_td5]

Thanks guys. I like the auto wipers & lights but not the speed variations. Might be time to break out the Nanocom and have a look at the CCF. One of the benefits of D4 ownership (vs D2) is that I have not needed to dig out the Nanocom for nearly 3 years!

[letherm]

I have the sensitivity set to "just right"....

Is this a setting or just something you set yourself. Interested in this possibility.

Martin

[shanegtr]

I cannot speak for D4s but on my RRS the stalk speed control does not change the speed on the front wipers (is up to the auto function) - the controller on the stalk works the speed of the rear wiper only.

garry

Wonder if the D3 is like that too? The "sensitivity" adjustment on mine seems to do bugger all. Will have to have a play with it and see if the rear wiper changes its rate at all

[rocket rod]

I eventually got around to disabling the rain sensor using my GAP tool and I was very proud to find the setting and implement the change. All good I thought as the wipers swiped in time as I like but now the auto headlight function got disabled and along with that the delayed off function as well. I've tried looking for a setting for these and I should note that I have the extended untested feature list from GAP so I'm not sure if that causes a problem or not. I've set the rain sensor back to on and the headlights now perform as expected again.

O wise ones, what's going on?