Interview with Gerry McGovern about the new Defender

[mwbrydon]

McGovern discusses the new Defender.Land Rover Defender replacement is coming, at last (http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/land-rover-defender-replacement-is-coming-at-last-20170222-guj0lz.html)

Interesting bits:
» "I'll tell you one thing about that Defender, it's going to be nothing like those bloomin' concept cars we showed a few years go, because we took the Mick with those," he jested.
» "We've pushed Discovery closer to Range Rover, which will allow the Defenders to come in under that." i.e - We're going to make them all look the same and like every other 4x4/SUV in the market.

I don't hold out much hope for the new breed and McGovern worries me.

Note: Heard about this article in the Centre Steer Podcast (http://centresteer.com/) - It's a great podcast and you should check it out! (I'm not associated with them.)

[blackrangie]

This article was already posted on Feb 23rd below, he is not really saying what you infer, he is just saying the Defender will in a way take the place somewhere between the current Defender and the current D4.. Because of this the moved the D5 closer to the RR

[Bytemrk]

That's kind of how I read it too Blackrangie..... maybe there is some wishful thinking there[bighmmm] Time will tell.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

it is the 3rd pillar,, so some differences have to be expected,,(if not wanted!!)
but expect an ally subframe, expect air suspension, expect a current gearbox, expect the usual LR design clues, expect 5 doors, expect a cab chassis/ute/dual cab. (anything to get rid of the horrible/homogeneous Disco C pillar)

any photoshoppers out there put a tray on the back of a new RR for me?
Expect that.

[Pickles2]

It's still all waffle.
No-one, outside of the design team knows anything.
So, I'll just say one thing, I give JLR the prize for keeping "New" Defender absolutely secret,...100% for that!
Pickles.

[blackrangie]

it is the 3rd pillar,, so some differences have to be expected,,(if not wanted!!)
but expect an ally subframe, expect air suspension, expect a current gearbox, expect the usual LR design clues, expect 5 doors, expect a cab chassis/ute/dual cab. (anything to get rid of the horrible/homogeneous Disco C pillar)

any photoshoppers out there put a tray on the back of a new RR for me?
Expect that.
Few corrections, I would say option of air susp as previously discussed.
Current gearbox? You mean 8 or 9 speed auto? With manual option?

[loneranger]

It's still all waffle.
No-one, outside of the design team knows anything.
So, I'll just say one thing, I give JLR the prize for keeping "New" Defender absolutely secret,...100% for that!
Pickles.
And the best marketing campaign.

[blackrangie]

It's still all waffle.
No-one, outside of the design team knows anything.
So, I'll just say one thing, I give JLR the prize for keeping "New" Defender absolutely secret,...100% for that!
Pickles.
That's not true, a fair bit has been drip fed to the press as previously discussed on here, bar the actual shape and look of the Defender lots of the rest of the car has been talked about by LR..but yes good job keeping the look of it secret

[RobA]

Yep all conjecture and McGovern is doing a great job starting to push the interest levels up as they get closer to product release. Having a chat to a JRA guy I have know for a long time the only thing he said is that air suspension is definitely not on the cards for new Defender. That could also be misleading but it's the only thing I can get close to believing.

If you step back and look at the model line as it stands clearly and as they have already said, they are moving into 3 separate product groupings. RR for the high end luxury, new Discovery as the middle ground but more upmarket but less then RR and finally will come new Defender which will I hope continue to fill the void of a utilitarian but highly modern 4WD focussed on a high off road duty cycle. It will have to sell in volumes far higher than old Defender to make it pay so in my view you can expect a model range of at least three variants being; a ute/dual cab, a station wagon, possibly a SWB and probably a cab chassis. In all of that I would think you would see base, mid and high spec variants to suit the various buyer segments. One thing I am hoping for that is noticeably lacking with new Discovery, is a decent range of OE equipment from bars to winches etc.

Rob

[Pickles2]

Well, I reckon I've been on the lookout for clues about the "New" Defender as much as anyone, but IMHO, "I" know virtually nothing.
What I do know,...monocoque chassis, but even then nothing about the "specifics" of it.
Ingenium engines, yes, but which ones,...I don't know.
3 levels of specification, 3 door, 5door,....read all that, but again nothing specific.
Transmissions,..manual or auto,..probably both, but again nothing specific known.
final drive, brakes, wheels, suspension?....I know nothing.
Interior,...nothing.
Appearance?....nothing.
So that's me, I know nothing at all of any really accurate substance, and that's why I say, well AFAIAC anyway, I know virtually anything of an accurate, definite nature, and that is why I'm hanging out for the first REAL, OFFICIAL bit of info from JLR about the "New" Defender..
Pickles.

[frantic]

I seriously wonder if they will learn from the "current title fight" where 2 contenders have tried to take the lowlux crown and 1 has almost ( in reality it has) succeeded, where the other, although technically superior , has failed.
Currently the ranger is about 1:1 in the 4x4 segment with the Hilux, and if you throw in the almost same under the skin Mazda fugly x 50, its ahead.
Whereas the amarok was way behind(people just don't like the 2.0 engine in a 1 ton 4wd), below the triton and a few others. The Everest outsold the fortuner, but both where smashed by the playdough at almost 3:1.
So what LR need is a ute/dc/single cab to beat both Hilux and Ranga as well as a wagon derivative to beat playdough on both on/off-road performance, tow/engine/load capacity, reliability and price.

[blackrangie]

"The Defenders, when they come, there will be a whole family of them"

The company says model options will stretch from the “base car” to “very luxury” while the group’s special operations unit will work on a beefed up version to meet demand in Russian and China for an alternative to the Mercedes G 63 AMG

"A whole new generation of Defenders that will represent durability. They are coming. They are not that far away... our vision is massive."

It was officially announced that the all-new Land Rover Defender would use an aluminum architecture similar to the new Land Rover Discovery, Ranger Rover, and Range Rover Sport

Dr. Ralph Speth also confidently said that the new Defender will be an icon, no questions about it. He continued by saying that the architecture will contain a lot of elements that are different from other aluminum-based vehicles.

[scarry]

I seriously wonder if they will learn from the "current title fight" where 2 contenders have tried to take the lowlux crown and 1 has almost ( in reality it has) succeeded, where the other, although technically superior , has failed.
Currently the ranger is about 1:1 in the 4x4 segment with the Hilux, and if you throw in the almost same under the skin Mazda fugly x 50, its ahead.
Whereas the amarok was way behind(people just don't like the 2.0 engine in a 1 ton 4wd), below the triton and a few others. The Everest outsold the fortuner, but both where smashed by the playdough at almost 3:1.
So what LR need is a ute/dc/single cab to beat both Hilux and Ranga as well as a wagon derivative to beat playdough on both on/off-road performance, tow/engine/load capacity, reliability and price.

No matter what anyone says,it is the Japanese engineered,Thailand built, reputation for reliability,resale,whatever,etc.

Whether this can be justified,or not, everyone has their thoughts.

No vehicle is perfect in every way.

For LR to make anything that could be a threat to the Low lux,ranger,or whatever, would be remarkable.

[Richo1]

Hi Fellas, I'm from the Disco 2 site but I am also interested in New Defer. What I have found out ( heard ) so far is it will be independent suspension, coil sprung at least for the serious off roader, not sure but a 9 speed auto with first 3 gears extra low so to be low range ( no transfer case ), do we need to travel in 4th in low range. I would be surprised if the diff locking is not electrical as we all know they will have heaps of electrical thingy's. Expect Ingenium engines both diesel and petrol but maybe V8???
19 inch tyres??. Expect solar sun roof same as DC100, keep info coming.

Richo1

[blackrangie]

Unless its from an official quote from JLR its not official

[Pickles2]

Unless its from an official quote from JLR its not official
Exactly.
Pickles.

[Homestar]

Unless its from an official quote from JLR its not official

Fun to speculate though. [biggrin]

It's almost like running a book on it - see who gets the closest when (or if) they ever release it. [smilebigeye]

[blackrangie]

Charged EVs | Land Rover’s Electric Defender begins real-world trials at the Eden Project in Cornwall (https://chargedevs.com/newswire/land-rovers-electric-defender-begins-real-world-trials-at-the-eden-project-in-cornwall/)

[blackrangie]

I'm thinking we will see an electric or hybrid Defender at least

[blackrangie]

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