HEMA HX-1 - dammit!

[GregMilner]

Does anybody here have one of these? I used mine for the first time today, for a trip from Perth to Bunbury, using the Drive mode (on-road street maps) and for the life of me, the silly thing will NOT cancel navigation. All the way back to Perth, it was telling me to turn around and go back to the address in Bunbury. No matter whether I hit OK or Cancel, it still goes back to the same thing. Clues anyone?

[letherm]

Does anybody here have one of these? I used mine for the first time today, for a trip from Perth to Bunbury, using the Drive mode (on-road street maps) and for the life of me, the silly thing will NOT cancel navigation. All the way back to Perth, it was telling me to turn around and go back to the address in Bunbury. No matter whether I hit OK or Cancel, it still goes back to the same thing. Clues anyone?

Just googled the manual which is apparently what you see when you press the help button. All I could see was to reboot it and put it into silent mode... sorry. No results for cancel navigation. Can understand why it would drive you nuts.

Post the answer when you find out. I'm curious now.[bigsmile1]

Martin

[trout1105]

I have the HX7 and had the same problem.
To fix it I just put in a new destination and when I got there the navigation will stoped, I hope this helps.

[LandyAndy]

I have the top of the pay Hema app on an android tablet.
Not had much joy out of it.
When it fails you have to wipe it and download again.Cost me plenty in data when I went to Exmouth,must have re-installed at least 10 times via the mobile phone:bat::bat::bat::bat::bat::bat: Works great when its working!!!
Andrew

[GregMilner]

It's a pretty counter-intuitive piece of gear Martin. When you touch the H logo on the bottom right, it asks if you'd like to cancel navigation. This doesn't actually mean cancel the current route, it means do you want to dive out of the on-road navigation and out to the home screen where you get to choose between on road and off road navigation. To cancel navigation to the address you've pre programmed, you have to touch the three horizontal bars on the bottom left of the screen, I've discovered that to cancel navigation you have to go into the menu bars at the bottom left of the screen, then 'delete route'. Phew.

And, on my boat I always navigate 'north up', so I can tell roughly which compass heading I'm on, just be glancing at the screen. On the Hema, cannot for the life of me figure out how to program it to north up. So no matter which way I'm driving, the car is always pointing up. Frustrating.

[GregMilner]

I have the top of the pay Hema app on an android tablet.
Not had much joy out of it.
When it fails you have to wipe it and download again.Cost me plenty in data when I went to Exmouth,must have re-installed at least 10 times via the mobile phone:bat::bat::bat::bat::bat::bat: Works great when its working!!!
Andrew

Yeah Andrew I too have the Hema Explorer app on my phone, which was fine last trip but the screen is too small to be of much use when travelling at 100+, and it won't move with the car, so I bought the full biscuit to get a bigger screen. It's pretty buggy from what I can tell. A bit clunky. I 'think' I can get it to hold north up, will try it again tomorrow.

[Robmacca]

My mate has had his for m3mths now and on our recent trip it started playing up. It won't charge via the 12v lead. You wiggle the the lead a bit it it was a hit and miss as to whether it would change or not. He's dropped off back at Hema to fix it as it looks like it might be a broken connection inside the unit. We had been over some rough country and we were wondering if that had anything to do with it....
Not if anyone else has driven over corrugated roads for hours before and has any troubles as well but would like to hear of it if u have....

[BMKal]

I have both HN6 and HN7. The HN6 started playing up (losing satellite signal) last time we were in Tassie, and a business in the centre of Hobart was advertising a very good deal on the HN7, so I bought one. Have since fixed the HN6 by re-loading / updating the software.

Other than that, have never had any issues at all with them. Both do exactly what I want.

Neither runs "north up" in street navigation mode - but I don't want them to run that way either, so have never looked to see if it is possible. I like the fact that the direction of travel is always "up" the screen, so that you can instantly see what is coming up ahead .................. ie. left turn / right turn etc. I would imagine that street navigation with the device operating "north up" would be a pain in the arse. [wink11]

When in offroad / country navigation mode though (using the Hema maps) - the default operating mode is "north up", which makes sense for this type of map.

Also have a VMS device sitting around somewhere. I gave it to the young bloke ages ago and he had it in the D2. Now that he has his Amarok with factory sat-nav, he doesn't need the VMS any more. Have a reversing camera to go with the VMS, but have never installed it (still sitting in its box in my shed). At the time of buying the VMS, I liked it because it was a 7 inch screen and was larger than the HN6 that was the biggest Hema unit available at the time (and they were doing good deals on them at 4WD / camping shows and through a certain 4WD magazine which has since gone to ****). Since the HN7 was released though, this "advantage" disappeared. Other than the screen size at the time - the VMS is nowhere near as good a unit as either of the Hema units - I wouldn't recommend one to anyone.

[rocket rod]

I know it's too late for those that have purchased a dedicated navigation system, and I have nothing against them, but I reckon you can get a far more useful setup using a tablet (android in my case) and buying apps to work on it. Mine has OziExplorer, ExploreOz Traveller app, tons of maps, IGO street nav, 50Gb of music, GAP diagnostics and of course it can do email, internet and anything else you want to go with. I went with a 10" screen to accommodate my fat fingers and dodgy eyes. Depending on your tablet, it all costs about the same and you don't have to take a laptop with you to do all those PC type tasks. Just a thought for those wanting a new setup or changing from something they are unhappy with. I'm available to give in depth advice on any of this if it's wanted.

[AndrewM]

... I reckon you can get a far more useful setup using a tablet (android in my case) and buying apps to work on it. Mine has OziExplorer, ExploreOz Traveller app, tons of maps, IGO street nav, 50Gb of music, GAP diagnostics and of course it can do email, internet and anything else you want to go with.
Agree 100%. My Samsung Galaxy Note 8 sits in a Ram Mount and has HEMA Explorer loaded which has guided us to the Cape and back without missing a beat, or falling off. Power consumption is its main issue though.

[trout1105]

Agree 100%. My Samsung Galaxy Note 8 sits in a Ram Mount and has HEMA Explorer loaded which has guided us to the Cape and back without missing a beat, or falling off. Power consumption is its main issue though.

Does this setup work when there is NO phone reception and if it does how much data does it chew up?

[GregMilner]

I thought about using one of our iPads with the Hema app loaded on it but neither of our tablets has a gps chip so I'd have had to buy yet another iPad and didn't want that. I do have the Hema apps on my phone but it's too small a screen for my liking.
Another annoying thing with the new HX - 1 is that the damn thing won't switch off when it's on charge, which makes charging a long, long process even when connected to 240V. You power it down and it just automatically powers back up again.
None of their online help provides an answer to this that I can find.

at least I solved one thing though - got it to hold 'north up' on the street maps.

[pop058]

I looked into the HN7 and HX1 but some of the issues mentioned here and the fact that a Tablet appears to have significantly better graphics turned me off them. I have also been led to believe using a tablet requires mobile coverage. Not for the service but for tower location information. This and the inbuilt GPS are both used. This was in some way confirmed when I could not find a new Tablet with FULL GPS functionality. They all seem to have A-GPS or Assisted GPS which I was told requires phone tower location information.

I am sure someone one will clarify things one way or the other as I still have not gone down either path.

[austastar]

I thought about using one of our iPads with the Hema app loaded on it but neither of our tablets has a gps chip so I'd have had to buy yet another iPad and didn't want that. .

Hi,
You could bluetooth to a Garmin Glo or a Qstarz gps or even a BadElf with ñot much drama.
Cheers

[BMKal]

Wait until these new "super screens" come onto the market. Then you can just leave one permanently in your car, and operate from the apps on your phone. You could run a navigator, Gap IID tool, music stored on your phone plus the phone itself all from this screen. My iPhone sits in a cradle on the dash permanently connected to power supply and large external aerial when I have it in the car - so this system would be ideal. [wink11]

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[Robmacca]

This easily solved by just buying a GPS Receiver. I bought a Garmin GLO unit for my non-cellular iPad and it works a treat. U can even have up to 10 people logged in using the same GPS receiver....

One thing people don't usually talk about is the accuracy of their iPad/Tablet/phone tracklogs. With my dedicated Garmin Montana u can change the frequency of the breadcrumbs that are left behind. More breadcrumbs the more accurate the tracklog is. No point having breadcrumbs dropped every 100mtrs if your on a real windy road or a tight bush track, etc. Not sure if u can adjust the frequency of the breadcrumbs on iPad/Tablet devices....




I thought about using one of our iPads with the Hema app loaded on it but neither of our tablets has a gps chip so I'd have had to buy yet another iPad and didn't want that. .

[austastar]

. I have also been led to believe using a tablet requires mobile coverage. Not for the service but for tower location information. This and the inbuilt GPS are both used. This was in some way confirmed when I could not find a new Tablet with FULL GPS functionality. They all seem to have A-GPS or Assisted GPS which I was told requires phone tower location .

Hi,
Mobile reception is not absolutely necessary, it does help to get a faster initial fix by downloading the NMEA sentence for the gps to start calculating the trilateration, (lock-on).
Apart from that the gps works fine off the network.

My tablet only gets Internet via WiFi, ADSL at home or a mobile hot spot when travelling, and if in remote areas, the hot spot is not even turned on.

Cheers

[Stuart02]

Does this setup work when there is NO phone reception and if it does how much data does it chew up?
Can't use much data when there's no reception! [emoji14]
The maps are internal and so long as the device has an internal GPS that's what it uses for location.
I've been downloading geotagged Hema maps and using them via Avenza on a Samsung Galaxy tablet. Works a treat. Doesn't have the extra theoretical functionality of the HN7 or the Hema app, but it puts a blue dot on the map and allows me to mark way points, which saves me having to stop and show my copilot where we are on the map (!). About 12 hours of battery life.
All we needed for the Flinders Ranges with paper backup.

[BobD]

I have a Hema HN7 which I find is great. I mainly use it for tracking where we are and looking ahead, in 4WD mode. I don't use most of its fancy features much.

I bought a new iPad to run my GAP IID and have loaded all of the ExploreOz maps on it. This is great also and can be used anywhere and doesn't require any phone reception. I accidentally found out that you can track your route on the map while flying! This is really good and I love it. All I want to do in a plane is see what is below and where we are going! I also have a speedo app and can watch the speed of the plane. The only issue is that you have to be at around 3 or 4 thousand metres for the GPS to start working. It doesn't work close to the ground. I also used it to it to track progress and location on the Ghan earlier this year, including monitoring the speed. Very useful, as long as I was near a window.

[LandyAndy]

Does this setup work when there is NO phone reception and if it does how much data does it chew up?

I have the Hema Explorer app on a Samsung tablet.
The App is buggy and tends to freeze.Only uses data for upgrades etc.Doesnt require phone reception if you have stored the maps already.I found I had to uninstall/re-install when it was playing up on the Exmouth trip,that does use plenty of data.Used it at Xmas for a trip to Port Gregorry/Kalbarri,no issues at all so it may be fixed.
Andrew

[AndrewM]

Does this setup work when there is NO phone reception and if it does how much data does it chew up?
Yep, it works completely "off-line". If it is outsie the 3G/4G network it cannot chew up any data. You download the maps which can be 1 - 2 Gb to the device's SD card before you leave.
We used it all the way across the Great Central Road, Savanah Way, up the OTT with no problems showing the maps, current position, recording routes and so on.

[go-disco4]

I looked into the HN7 and HX1 but some of the issues mentioned here and the fact that a Tablet appears to have significantly better graphics turned me off them. I have also been led to believe using a tablet requires mobile coverage. Not for the service but for tower location information. This and the inbuilt GPS are both used. This was in some way confirmed when I could not find a new Tablet with FULL GPS functionality. They all seem to have A-GPS or Assisted GPS which I was told requires phone tower location information.

I am sure someone one will clarify things one way or the other as I still have not gone down either path.

Hi

As the others have said, you do not need Mobile Cellular coverage, provided you get the right tablet.

I have the IPAD (first generation). For the IPAD with built in GPS receiver, you need to get the Model with BOTH WIFI AND Cellular features. The WIFI only model do NOT have the GPS.

The latest IPAD including the Pro are the same: need both WIFI and Cellular

I bought the HEMA Aus 4WD and Vic Topo maps from Memory-Maps and loaded them onto a PC as well as the IPAD. It works very well. Used it to lead the trip across the Simpson, Flinders etc as well as numerous Vic/NSW High Country trips.

Its not a Navigator like the HN7 etc and does not gives direction. However, it pinpoints where the device is with a cursor/dot and the map or the cursor moves as you travel along to indicate your location.

You can plan ahead and put in waypoints etc. Also records your trip.

have a look at Memory Maps website

Regards

GD-4

[veebs]

Hi

[snip]

I have the IPAD (first generation). [snip]

Regards

GD-4

GD-4, Have you had the same type of instability LandyAndy has described with the hema app? That is, needing to reinstall, crashing, etc? I'm wondering (hoping) if the Apple version of the app is perhaps more stable than the Android?

[rhinosm]

I used app on Apple iPad and didn't have a problem.
Found it really useful, nice big screen.
Not as user friendly as I would like.
But the basics OK.
I've just got a Hema HX-1 as a gift so we will see how we go.

[go-disco4]

GD-4, Have you had the same type of instability LandyAndy has described with the hema app? That is, needing to reinstall, crashing, etc? I'm wondering (hoping) if the Apple version of the app is perhaps more stable than the Android?

Hi

No not at all.

Very stable. In the 5 years that I have it, I think I reinstall it once, cannot remember the reason. Never crashed on any trip, corrugations and all.

BTW I mount it with a triple suction RAM mount, very stable and the IPAD does not vibrate even with bad corrugations

GD-4

[RANDLOVER]

There are still some HX-1 models for sale at BCF stores and maybe elsewhere, (search their website). I bought an ex display model for $400 yesterday versus $750 for the HX-2.

[Robmacca]

There are still some HX-1 models for sale at BCF stores and maybe elsewhere, (search their website). I bought an ex display model for $400 yesterday versus $750 for the HX-2.

Good luck with your HX1... I'd make sure u keep it out of the heat/sunlight...

[RANDLOVER]

My mate has had his for m3mths now and on our recent trip it started playing up. It won't charge via the 12v lead. You wiggle the the lead a bit it it was a hit and miss as to whether it would change or not. He's dropped off back at Hema to fix it as it looks like it might be a broken connection inside the unit. We had been over some rough country and we were wondering if that had anything to do with it....
Not if anyone else has driven over corrugated roads for hours before and has any troubles as well but would like to hear of it if u have....


Good luck with your HX1... I'd make sure u keep it out of the heat/sunlight...

I have had trouble with charging but that seemed to be the battery which I had replaced at Battery World on my HN7. It was a bit weird at first but settled down, but last week I noticed the lead wiggling fault you describe and approximately 3 hours into the trip it died. I have since resurrected it but thought I can't really trust it now so bought the HX-1, which I've wanted for a while now for the bread crumb feature. Hopefully it lasts as long or longer than the 7, as I do quite a bit of dirt road driving on weekends with the corrugations that entails and it does sit high up on the dash in the sun. Having said that the first and last time it played up was 3 to 4 hours into the trips, so the fault might be more to do with internal heating or heat rejection as both those times it failed after dusk.

[RANDLOVER]

I have the HX7 and had the same problem.
To fix it I just put in a new destination and when I got there the navigation will stoped, I hope this helps.

I think you mean HN7 if that is the case, from the map screen, touch the leaf symbol in the top right hand corner, it goes to a screen with a lot of tiles, and the bottom right hand corner one is to cancel route.