D4 Recovery points

[Rylee405]

I have just purchased one of the last D4's. HSE.

ARB do not make recovery brackets for the D4.
There's a fairly substantial cast eye at the rear and a steel loop at the front.
The handbook states "both front and rear towing eyes are designed for on-road recovery only.
If used for any other purpose, it may result in vehicle damage and serious injury."
What do you do if stuck in sand or mud and you need to be snatched out?

Thanks guys
Ps.
I know some will say 'Discoverys don't get stuck'.😎

[Stuart02]

They're the real deal. Handbook is just a disclaimer. Of course there's the hitch receiver option at the rear too.

[Milton477]

Have you seen this vid? Land Rover Discovery 3/ LR3 -Strength-3of6 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fufTUpi3FU) Land Rover Discovery 3/ LR3 -Strength-3of6
The standard recovery points seem adequate for the job. If you do get stuck, you won't be that stuck will you?

[Rylee405]

Thanks for your replies.
I'm going to Fraser Island begining of May taking my fully loaded 1800kg off road caravan which I've taken before but not with the D4.
Inskip to the barge could be the challenge. I always take a RH turn when hitting the soft sand straight to the water and hard sand to the barge.
I'm interested as to how the standard 19 inch wheels and tyres go at 18 psi.
It's all part of 4wding.

[Rylee405]

Ps
I have seen that youtube add.
Thanks

[Milton477]

Maybe drop to 15psi for the soft stuff getting on/off the barge. Don't forget to select sand mode & turn off the DSC.

[AllTerr]

Have you seen this vid? Land Rover Discovery 3/ LR3 -Strength-3of6 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fufTUpi3FU) Land Rover Discovery 3/ LR3 -Strength-3of6
The standard recovery points seem adequate for the job. If you do get stuck, you won't be that stuck will you?
Very "uplifting"

[winaje]

For accuracies sake, it should be noted that in the Youtube video referenced, the CHASSIS strength is being demonstrated, NOT the recovery point strength. They do not suspend 4 vehicles by the front and rear recovery points, but have custom chassis rail attachments front and rear. It is stated in this video that the front and rear recovery points are capable of 6 ton.

[Rylee405]

6 tonne is that 6000kg or 12000kg
But the 6 tonne is a straight lift not a snatch where I believe the load could be greater.
Therefore if you use a snatch strap rated below 6 tonne you shouldn't have a shackle and piece of steel flying through the air.

[Rylee405]

I'll answer my own question 6 tonne is 6000 kgs.
Which means if you use a standard 8000 kg or greater spec snatch strap you could have a shackle flying through the air.

[Rylee405]

After some research
ARB recovery points are rated to take a 4750 kg rated bow shackle and using a 8000 kg snatch strap.
This gives me confidence in using the D4 "on road tow points" as off road recovery points - fingers crossed.

[Grentarc]

I'll answer my own question 6 tonne is 6000 kgs.
Which means if you use a standard 8000 kg or greater spec snatch strap you could have a shackle flying through the air.

Your standard recovery shackles are only 4.5T/4.75T

[Rylee405]

Hi Will
On the video didn't hear any mention about recovery points rated to 6 tonne.

[winaje]

Hi Will
On the video didn't hear any mention about recovery points rated to 6 tonne.

In the full length version Land Rover Discovery / LR3 The Big Lift - YouTube (https://youtu.be/c3LIWXCuUUc) at 1:43... "we already know that it's integrated body frame has a 6ton snatch recovery loading".

[Bytemrk]

Rylee,

There are definitely folks here more qualified than me to explain about " rating".... but part of what makes the rating conversation confusing is that some "rating" that people discuss is a breaking strain.... e.g. snatch straps... my understanding is that that is the safe limit at which to use them, after which they are likely to break.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/04/777.jpg

Other things, like "Rated" shackles are a safe working limit.( SWL or WLL) - this is related to cranes and lifting and I think has something like a 5 times safety factor built in...

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/04/778.jpg
Every wondered why you can use an 8 tonne snatch strap with a shackle rated at 3.5 tonne?... That's why.... the shackle is not going to break at 4 if pulled in the correct direction.


So I'm quite comfortable using the 6 tonne recovery points on mine if needed......but if you have to snatch very hard.... I'd suggest you should have used a shovel for a while before hand..[bighmmm]



Hopefully someone more qualified than me will chime in re the difference between breaking strains and safe working load limits

[Rylee405]

Thanks everyone for your input, it's been very helpful and informative.
It's good to have sites like this and people who are willing to help with their experience.

Bob.