Disabled Parking WTF

[rangieman]

We have a son that is permanently in a electric wheel chair so we have one disabled parking permit on swmbo`s Tarago that has a hoist for lifting the wheel chair.[bighmmm]
Now we dont abuse the right to park in disabled parking if the son is not in the car we park with everyone else ,
Well this morning swmbo goes shopping and she rings me with in about 10 minutes of leaving home .
Shocked at she got abused for parking in a normal car park by a woman in her 50`s Yelling at her why if she has a disabled permit that she is taking a normal bodied persons car park spot[bigrolf]
Now i have been in her car driving around for ages with the son in the car looking for a disabled spot which are few and far between i will say but how many bloody baby with pram parking spots are there dont start on that one[wink11]
This woman was lucky she caught swmbo on the hop any other time she would have copped a nice ear full [wink11].
I can only dream what i would have said or done if it happened to me :bat:

[weeds]

Not sure that we all fall into the category of scum bag.....

I do wonder at sometimes watching people get out of a car that parked in a disabled car park with a permit as they look quite able bodied to me....it appears they are abusing the system. I have no doubt it would be frustrating for legitimate users looking for a park.

Good on your wife for parking where us scum have to park every other day.

Parents and babies and Prams can be a handful in a standard size carpark.....although I would park further away than everybody where nobody parks and walk/push the extra 50m.

[justinc]

My pet hate Chris :(

Sorry she had to get that kind of rubbish hurled at her ..

JC

[rangieman]

Not sure that we all fall into the category of scum bag.....

I do wonder at sometimes watching people get out of a car that parked in a disabled car park with a permit as they look quite able bodied to me....it appears they are abusing the system. I have no doubt it would be frustrating for legitimate users looking for a park.

Good on your wife for parking where us scum have to park every other day.

Parents and babies and Prams can be a handful in a standard size carpark.....although I would park further away than everybody where nobody parks and walk/push the extra 50m.
Sorry if you take offence to the scum remark [biggrin]I should correct that people that carry on like that are scumbags .
We see it everyday but it is the normal able bodied people that use disabled parking that are scum bags using this description loosely [thumbsupbig]
Changed post so as to not offend the precious able bodied pram pushers:TakeABow: .

[NavyDiver]

Not sure that we all fall into the category of scum bag.....

I do wonder at sometimes watching people get out of a car that parked in a disabled car park with a permit as they look quite able bodied to me....it appears they are abusing the system. I have no doubt it would be frustrating for legitimate users looking for a park.

Good on your wife for parking where us scum have to park every other day.

Parents and babies and Prams can be a handful in a standard size carpark.....although I would park further away than everybody where nobody parks and walk/push the extra 50m.


I have often thought pregnancy and babies should get priority parking but also think getting exercise is even better for almost all of us. I also like parking a long way back to avoid the mass of people who only park at the door or gate of schools or shopping centres. At the school Zone is gives me a chuckle to walk past all the cars queuing to get to the front gate.

On the people with Disabled permits 10 point for not using the place when not needed.

I do have a mate with a permit and he cops a fair spray at times as his illness is not always evident. (MS)

[Roverlord off road spares]

We have a son that is permanently in a electric wheel chair so we have one disabled parking permit on swmbo`s Tarago that has a hoist for lifting the wheel chair.[bighmmm]
Now we dont abuse the right to park in disabled parking if the son is not in the car we park with everyone else ,
Well this morning swmbo goes shopping and she rings me with in about 10 minutes of leaving home .
Shocked at she got abused for parking in a normal car park by a woman in her 50`s Yelling at her why if she has a disabled permit that she is taking a normal bodied persons car park spot[bigrolf]
Now i have been in her car driving around for ages with the son in the car looking for a disabled spot which are few and far between i will say but how many bloody baby with pram parking spots are there dont start on that one[wink11]
This woman was lucky she caught swmbo on the hop any other time she would have copped a nice ear full [wink11].
I can only dream what i would have said or done if it happened to me :bat:
There are only so many disabled parking spots avail at any one given time, so if they are all in use then what do people expect others to do, drive around for a long time until one eventually becomes available or leave and come back another day. I would have had a go at that woman.

[Roverlord off road spares]

I have often thought pregnancy and babies should get priority parking but also think getting exercise is even better for almost all of us. I also like parking a long way back to avoid the mass of people who only park at the door or gate of schools or shopping centres. At the school Zone is gives me a chuckle to walk past all the cars queuing to get to the front gate.

On the people with Disabled permits 10 point for not using the place when not needed.

I do have a mate with a permit and he cops a fair spray at times as his illness is not always evident. (MS)
I also have a disabled parking permit, they are not easy to get, but I do think some groups have doctors that seem to give them away freely looking at the local Bunnings disabled parking
Masters used to have all the mothers with prams parking so close to the entrance, yet disabled parking was put further away. makes no sense if you ask me.

[rangieman]

I also have a disabled parking permit, they are not easy to get, but I do think some groups have doctors that seem to give them away freely looking at the local Bunnings disabled parking
Masters usarking was put further away. makes no sense if you ask me.
It is against the law to use a disabled park if you do not have a disabled permit:rulez:.
It is not against the law to park in a only baby and prams area[bigwhistle]

[Fatso]

You can actually buy fake AU disabled Parking Permits in Bali , i could not believe it when i seen them at a stall in legion .

[Pedro_The_Swift]

It is nearly impossible to police, I regularly park in a blue spot in a car with a ticket, get out and walk away and receive angry stares, but what they dont know is I'm going to get the owner of the ticket....
hard to tell..

[rangieman]

I have often thought pregnancy and babies should get priority parking but also think getting exercise is even better for almost all of us. I also like parking a long way back to avoid the mass of people who only park at the door or gate of schools or shopping centres. At the school Zone is gives me a chuckle to walk past all the cars queuing to get to the front gate.

On the people with Disabled permits 10 point for not using the place when not needed.

I do have a mate with a permit and he cops a fair spray at times as his illness is not always evident. (MS)
Some people should live a day in our life [wink11]
Im betting if they did their opinion would soon change[thumbsupbig]
Like i said im not starting on the pram parking area obviously unless you are disabled or have a disabled person in your house hold you will never under stand.
Just remember babys grow out of prams ,

[pop058]

It is nearly impossible to police, I regularly park in a blue spot in a car with a ticket, get out and walk away and receive angry stares, but what they dont know is I'm going to get the owner of the ticket....
hard to tell..

Same with Nan. She has the permit in her Territory for her 92 YO Mum. Gets the occasional comment and surly look when picking up GreatMa.

[NavyDiver]

It is nearly impossible to police, I regularly park in a blue spot in a car with a ticket, get out and walk away and receive angry stares, but what they dont know is I'm going to get the owner of the ticket....
hard to tell..

Not really. I double parked and took a very long phone call while behind a VIP without a disabled parking permit. He was having a red face day shouting at me to move my car while I just pointed at my phone[biggrin]

[Eevo]

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It is not against the law to park in a only baby and prams area[bigwhistle]

it's actually illegal to discriminate against people who are unable to have children.

so I park in them all the time

[DiscoMick]

Some people are just busybodies who seem to get their kicks in interfering in the lives of others.

[rijidij]

.....although I would park further away than everybody where nobody parks and walk/push the extra 50m.

How many times do you see cars doing lap after lap looking for a park right outside the door of a shopping centre when there's heaps of vacant spots just metres away.

Cheers, Murray

[weeds]

How many times do you see cars doing lap after lap looking for a park right outside the door of a shopping centre when there's heaps of vacant spots just metres away.

Cheers, Murray

Yep.....it's kinda funny

[rangiewoman]

I have often thought pregnancy and babies should get priority parking but also think getting exercise is even better for almost all of us. I also like parking a long way back to avoid the mass of people who only park at the door or gate of schools or shopping centres. At the school Zone is gives me a chuckle to walk past all the cars queuing to get to the front gate.

On the people with Disabled permits 10 point for not using the place when not needed.

I do have a mate with a permit and he cops a fair spray at times as his illness is not always evident. (MS)

I certainly don't believe that baby carparks should have priority and having been in the position of having had both a wheelchair user as well as having had a very large pram, I believe I am in a good position, to compare the two. Back in the days before baby and pram carparks, I had a baby in a large pram as well as a young child in a wheelchair. I can tell you from personal experience that disabled people not only NEED that space but it can be dangerous to park elsewhere. When I had only my baby I would park the pram and lift my baby out to put him into the car. I can't do that with my son who is in the wheelchair. I have to leave my son in the chair while I open the car and sort out how I transfer him into the car. During this time he is at risk of being hit by a passing car, unless I am parked in a disabled park which has the room to do this. I also am pretty angry that when the pram carparks came in, they actually took away some of the disabled carparks to make room for them.

I have had to drive home on a number of occasions because I couldn't find a disabled carpark and therefore I never park in one when my son is not with me. I would hate to make someone have to go home just because I am too lazy to walk a little bit.

I do agree that you can't alway tell if someone is disabled and I know of a few people who this applies too. Myself I would never say anything if they have a permit, as I know what it feels like to have to explain to strangers and give them your life story. I have also had people give me dirty looks when I have parked to pick up my son and I hate having to talk about my son illness all the time, especially to strangers.

[DiscoMick]

Yes, I sympathize. It's really no-one else's business and you shouldn't have to explain your personal situation to nosey people.

[rangiewoman]

We have a son that is permanently in a electric wheel chair so we have one disabled parking permit on swmbo`s Tarago that has a hoist for lifting the wheel chair.[bighmmm]
Now we dont abuse the right to park in disabled parking if the son is not in the car we park with everyone else ,
Well this morning swmbo goes shopping and she rings me with in about 10 minutes of leaving home .
Shocked at she got abused for parking in a normal car park by a woman in her 50`s Yelling at her why if she has a disabled permit that she is taking a normal bodied persons car park spot[bigrolf]
Now i have been in her car driving around for ages with the son in the car looking for a disabled spot which are few and far between i will say but how many bloody baby with pram parking spots are there dont start on that one[wink11]
This woman was lucky she caught swmbo on the hop any other time she would have copped a nice ear full [wink11].
I can only dream what i would have said or done if it happened to me :bat:

This woman was nuts. First time I've ever got in trouble for not using a disabled car park lol. I was a bit shocked by what she said but before I could respond, her husband quickly drove off. I thought about chasing her but then I would look like the crazy one. And yes Chris, she was very lucky you weren't in the car, I don't even want to imagine what you would have said.

[NavyDiver]

This woman was nuts. First time I've ever got in trouble for not using a disabled car park lol. I was a bit shocked by what she said but before I could respond, her husband quickly drove off. I thought about chasing her but then I would look like the crazy one. And yes Chris, she was very lucky you weren't in the car, I don't even want to imagine what you would have said.

No point being nuttier than nuts. She was clearly loopy. Her (poor sod) husband was probably running in embarrassment. All kudos to you rangiewoman

[Roverlord off road spares]

How many times do you see cars doing lap after lap looking for a park right outside the door of a shopping centre when there's heaps of vacant spots just metres away.

Cheers, Murray

I see it every time I go to a shopping centre, supermarket or
Bunnings, and they are too busy looking for the next parking spot that road rules seem to not apply, no indicators or obeying stop signs, as they are concentrating on the sole task of looking to park.
I told the Greeter at Bunnings last week that she should be out there in the car park enforcing the road rules instead, as the amount of near misses that occur there every time.
seems that people class these places as private property and common sense and road rules don't apply.
Quote from a blog QLD police
I’m sorry officer, this is private land. The road rules don’t apply! mypoliceblogs (http://mypolice.qld.gov.au/southbrisbane/author/mypoliceblogs/) on Sep 17, 2014 @ 1:53pm (http://mypolice.qld.gov.au/southbrisbane/2014/09/17/im-sorry-officer-private-land-road-rules-dont-apply/)
As a Police Beat Officer I hear this a lot. Some drivers are under the impression that because a shopping centre is private land that road rules don’t apply when driving in a car park. So, the question is: is a shopping centre car park a road?
Well the answer is yes.
A road is an area that is open to or used by the public and is developed for, or is used for, the driving or riding of motor vehicles, whether on payment or not. The road rules do apply in car parks and they are enforced by police.
Shopping centres are pedestrian and motor vehicle rich environments, and people do unpredictable things for which you, as a driver, need your full attention focussed on the road. So the next time you need to take that urgent phone call whilst driving through the shopping centre, remember that you just happen to be driving through a car park with plenty of convenient places to stop and park!

[Roverlord off road spares]

It is against the law to use a disabled park if you do not have a disabled permit:rulez:.
It is not against the law to park in a only baby and prams area[bigwhistle]
That must be the reason all the spankers drive around with 'Baby on Board' signs in their windows, so they can all park in the Prams zones [bigrolf]

[Eevo]

i like the sign that says: "babe on board"

[rangieman]

That must be the reason all the spankers drive around with 'Baby on Board' signs in their windows, so they can all park in the Prams zones [bigrolf]
Careful those able bodied pram pushers might take offence to being called spankers:tease::Rolling:

[gusthedog]

I work for a council and my department is responsible for disabled permits. No one gets one without a Dr saying they have a disability. And it ****s me when people have a go at people for not looking "disabled" enough to have a permit. What makes people think they are experts at a glance? And it's parking FFS - we're not talking sheep stations here. A bit of perspective might not go astray....

[vnx205]

Some people don't seem to have thought about why "Pram Parking" spaces are a good idea.

It has nothing to do with the distance from the shops. It is all about the width of the parking space.

If you have ever tried to lift a baby capsule in or out of a car when you can't fully open the car door, you would know why a wider parking space is needed during that short period of time when the child needs to be lifted in and out of the car.

[loneranger]

Parents with prams bays didn't exist when we had our children. We survived. I will admit to occasionally using them particularly when my kids were teenagers and I had to pick them up from work as they were near the door and they could see me. However I never park in disabled bays.

On the topic of who is entitled to have an Acrod sticker. My mum has one and my parents particularly use it to get free parking. My mum has benign MS and walks a lot. I would argue that when she is not in a flare state that she doesn't need it. By the same token I would never approach some about their entitlement to use one but they can be abused.

[vnx205]

Parents with prams bays didn't exist when we had our children. We survived.
We also survived the time when baby capsules and seat belts were not compulsory. :)
The fact that we survived does not mean that they are not a good idea.

[Pocket Rocket]

A few years ago at a former workplace there was a woman at work who was in a wheelchair but as to not discriminate against others with disabilities she had to go into the ballot for disabled parking bays like everyone else.

End result was she missed out and there were a number of days where she tried to come in and couldn't get a parking spot outside so she had to go home and take the day as sick leave (in the end as leave without pay). In the meantime someone who did get a spot in the ballot was capable of walking out the front and down the steps several times a day for smoke breaks.

But according to the guidelines no-one was discriminated against or disadvantaged here.

[Pocket Rocket]

If you have ever tried to lift a baby capsule in or out of a car when you can't fully open the car door, you would know why a wider parking space is needed during that short period of time when the child needs to be lifted in and out of the car.

We used to park at the back of the carpark and walk.

The difference here is there is still a choice (yes inconvenient but a choice nonetheless). Someone in a wheelchair has no choice.

[vnx205]

We used to park at the back of the carpark and walk.

The difference here is there is still a choice (yes inconvenient but a choice nonetheless). Someone in a wheelchair has no choice.

I wasn't suggesting that the needs of people with babies are greater than or even comparable to the needs of people in wheelchairs. I just think that there is no reason why things shouldn't be made slightly more convenient for parents of babies. It is a small sacrifice to have ten or a dozen normal parking spaces turned into eight or ten "pram"spaces.

I am reasonably conscious of the difficulties faced by wheelchair bound people. Every Tuesday and every Friday for the last five or six years I have been paddling with a friend who has been in a wheelchair since a sky diving accident over 30 years ago. Helping him with his kayak and with his chair has given me some insight into some of the difficulties that we able bodied people might normally not give a second thought.

Disabled parking makes it possible for him to do things that would otherwise sometimes be impossible. Pram parking spaces make it more convenient for parents to do something that can be almost impossible in narrow spaces. I am quite happy to make a minuscule sacrifice so that parents don't face that difficulty. When I see a parent trying to push a loaded shopping trolley with one hand and a stroller with the other while at the same time trying to control a hyperactive toddler, I don't mind if their trip to the car is shorter than mine.

[Shortie]

I get abused nearly every time I park in a disabled bay with my Defender. They start yelling as soon as I jump out of my little truck and carry on chasing me around the vehicle, I just walk around the back to get out Mums wheelchair then they shut up and go away.
Times when I can't get a disabled bay, I have to park across two bays so she can get out. I have the fold down step and also another small caravan step so she can get out, plus trying to maneuver the wheelchair - it's a nightmare. I always get abused for this and I just say I couldn't get a disabled bay and I can't fit in a "normal" bay.
I also have a friend with two prosthetic legs he gets abused nearly every time he gets out of the car, he now lifts up his trousers and asks them how disabled would they like him to be - that shuts them up.

[Fatso]

I must say that we have never been stared at or abused when using Disabled Parking , even though my wife does not look all that disabled !! , but she has 2 Artificial Hips and has 8 fused vertebrae with 18 screws and rods in her spine .

[rovers4]

I can relate to all those who need a Disabled Permit. A relative of mine sometimes travels with me and they have a Permit.

Anyone who has limited mobility is entitled to obtain a Permit and use it for any trip they make.

Here, a DP can only be used when carrying the person either too, or from the venue/centre or whatever.

And yet we see vehicles arrive and depart from a carpark and park in a DP space, without any sign of a disabled person any where near the vehicle. The driver can be seen to be physically fit and unhindered in any way. They just want an easy space. Maybe to pick-up a parcel. They falsely use the permit whenever they think they can get away with it. Not many do this - just a few - but they do get noticed. And the clue is? -a wheelchair in the back, or on top etc.

At some places there are now spaces for the elderly. However no-one has defined "ëlderly."

I once got a stern look because I drive a Defender, although I am 67. I thought I qualified, -being a O.A.P, but apparently not.

What I have noticed though is that over time the car parks are getting busier, but the number of overall spaces available has either stayed the same, or diminished, due to more permit spots, or building expansion.

Even the number of on-street spaces has lessened due to making the city pedestrian "friendly" so the council says, while the number of prospective users has risen without enough increase in off-street spaces. So we now have shoppers going into the CBD but parking in spaces provided by businesses on the outskirts for their own customers - not the ones parking there.

rovers4

[DiscoMick]

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[carlschmid2002]

Parents with prams bays didn't exist when we had our children. We survived. I will admit to occasionally using them particularly when my kids were teenagers and I had to pick them up from work as they were near the door and they could see me. However I never park in disabled bays.

On the topic of who is entitled to have an Acrod sticker. My mum has one and my parents particularly use it to get free parking. My mum has benign MS and walks a lot. I would argue that when she is not in a flare state that she doesn't need it. By the same token I would never approach some about their entitlement to use one but they can be abused.
I think you will find car parks were probably bigger or cars smaller. I find it extremely hard to strap the kids in their car seats in the Disco in most carparks without scratching the next car with the door. When some pelican parks right on the white line I have to reverse out to do up their seat belt.
On another note I used to think it was an overkill having so many disabled carparks on military bases until the boys and girls started coming back from Afghanistan and we had to modify the mess entrance so some of them could enter with their wheel chairs. I had to use the lift at Oakey once when on of my boys got day release from hospital after the Mt Walker Black Hawk crash. Before that I thought it was bureaucracy gone mad putting lifts in all government buildings of only two floors.

[loneranger]

I think you will find car parks were probably bigger or cars smaller. I find it extremely hard to strap the kids in their car seats in the Disco in most carparks without scratching the next car with the door. When some pelican parks right on the white line I have to reverse out to do up their seat belt.

We had XD, XE Falcons so they were pretty wide. I think what has changed is the car seats are a lot bigger as are a lot of prams. Personally I don't park next to anyone if I can help it and I normally park at the back of a carpark especially in busy periods and I can go straight over the kerb to get out.

[Roverlord off road spares]

Personally I don't park next to anyone if I can help it and I normally park at the back of a carpark especially in busy periods
Doesn't work down here in VIC, you park in an area far, far away where there are no cars with heaps of empty spaces, but when you return others have parked next to you and left all the other empty spaces , must be some unwritten rule that you have to fill up empty spaces first until you move onto the next empty space or something.[bighmmm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36OPVI5v7jc

[101RRS]

Where I live we have the same issues of people illegally using disabled spots but some of the main culprits are also disabled people who are workers in nearby offices.

While the public carparks at my shopping centres have 2 hour limits the disabled spots do not have any timeframes so some disabled workers park in the shopping centre disabled spots all day getting free parking so preventing disabled shoppers from parking.

Now clearly it will take a disabled shopper longer to get around the shops than an abled person so maybe disabled spots in shopping centres should also have time limits - say if the normal spots are two hours, make the disabled spots 3 hours so preventing office workers taking up spots.

Garry

[Roverlord off road spares]

Where I live we have the same issues of people illegally using disabled spots but some of the main culprits are also disabled people who are workers in nearby offices.

While the public carparks at my shopping centres have 2 hour limits the disabled spots do not have any timeframes so some disabled workers park in the shopping centre disabled spots all day getting free parking so preventing disabled shoppers from parking.

Now clearly it will take a disabled shopper longer to get around the shops than an abled person so maybe disabled spots in shopping centres should also have time limits - say if the normal spots are two hours, make the disabled spots 3 hours so preventing office workers taking up spots.

Garry
A disabled permit hold can park at any parking spot for double the lime posted for other people.
When I was in Rehab, there was some construction work going on at the centre, i got pretty peeved off when I over head one of the workers asking his boss about were to park and his boss replied that it was pretty hard to find a parking spot as all THE RETARDS had taken all the spots. Pretty poor attitude , if he had walked around the place and saw how many people are inflicted with work place accidents, car accidents etc, I would have liked to have given him a good piece of my mind, but I was not in a position to engage in confrontations. Us Retards, did not want to be there in the first place.

[laney]

Disabled parking I have no problems with this but baby parks when I had my children there was no such thing we coped now I go to the shopping centre and there are disabled, baby with pram, seniors and over 70s parks and small cars only parks. Where is the 4wd only park at least I get a park I thing scrap all the politically correct crap and only have disabled parking only.

[Pocket Rocket]

Where is the 4wd only park

At the perimeter where in busy times you can go straight over the kerb for an easy escape. [biggrin]

[trout1105]

Where is the 4wd only park

As far away as possible from all the shopping trolleys, Prams and Bogans who don't give a toss if their car door slams into your truck when they park up.

[vnx205]

Disabled parking I have no problems with this but baby parks when I had my children there was no such thing we coped now I go to the shopping centre and there are disabled, baby with pram, seniors and over 70s parks and small cars only parks. Where is the 4wd only park at least I get a park I thing scrap all the politically correct crap and only have disabled parking only.

So do you have any objection to these signs?
122035
:)

[cafe latte]

Reminds me of the time I was reversing into a parking spot in a Toyota troopy, this woman attempts to dive in and steal the spot which I was in the process of reversing into. Missus (Italian with Italian temper) jumps out and stands in womans way she revs engine and actually touches missus shins with bumper. I continue my parking and get my space. This woman then parks somewhere else and comes over to abuse my missus telling her to bleep back home. Missus replied this is my home I am Australian (we both have Aus passports and love Australia, I was born in UK). She abused her some more and marched off to the bank. I followed her, the clerks were two Asian ladies and one black lady, not sure of race and the security guard was also black. I told the woman very loudly that my missus may well be born in another country but racism is horrible and I went further to tell her she was the lowest form of life to be racist to my missus and actually we are all guests in this country.. She looked around at all the glaring back and Asian faces and decided she did not need money after all, odd I cant think why..
Chris

[DiscoMick]

Well done! Respect.

[d@rk51d3]

How many times do you see cars doing lap after lap looking for a park right outside the door of a shopping centre when there's heaps of vacant spots just metres away.

Cheers, Murray


Or the line, a mile long through a drive-through takeaway.

I figure if I'm going to eat crap, the least I can do is park in the empty carpark, and walk in.

[loneranger]

I walked into the basement at work today and parked in one of the mobility impaired bays was a motorbike.

[trog]

The unicycle was getting too hard to get about on ?

[V8Ian]

I walked into the basement at work today and parked in one of the mobility impaired bays was a motorbike.
There are many conditions that impede mobility, but do not preclude one's choice of vehicle.

[loneranger]

There are many conditions that impede mobility, but do not preclude one's choice of vehicle.
If you can handle a bike of the size and weight this one was I would argue that in our building there are other people who's need of a parking spot is greater.

[Eevo]

If you can handle a bike of the size and weight this one was I would argue that in our building there are other people who's need of a parking spot is greater.

i take your point but thats for a doctor to determine.

[loneranger]

i take your point but thats for a doctor to determine.
The point is that all disabilities are classified as equal for the purposes of Acrod stickers and parking but not all needs are the same.

[Eevo]

The point is that all disabilities are classified as equal for the purposes of Acrod stickers and parking but not all needs are the same.


so whats your point?
riding a bike is very different to walking. {to state the obvious}

[Wraithe]

so whats your point?
riding a bike is very different to walking. {to state the obvious}

I totally agree, I could still ride my bike...

But I struggle walking 50 metres...

And if I dropped it, it would stay there..

Not sure on its actual weight, but be over 200 kgs, easy...(Suzuki GS1000G, so no toy and no plastic)..

[jx2mad]

Both my wife and I have disabled parking permits.Our medical problems vary from day to day. On good days we do not use disabled parking and even on bad days we use normal parking if close to where we are going and only use disabled as a last resort. There are people worse off than we are. Jim

[loneranger]

I totally agree, I could still ride my bike...

But I struggle walking 50 metres...

And if I dropped it, it would stay there..

Not sure on its actual weight, but be over 200 kgs, easy...(Suzuki GS1000G, so no toy and no plastic)..
We have motorcycle bays in the building and out the front. If this bike belongs to the person who normally uses the bay they have no problem walking past the bays ot the front of the building to have a smoke or get coffee so I'll stick to my opinion that it shouldn't be parked there.

[Wraithe]

We have motorcycle bays in the building and out the front. If this bike belongs to the person who normally uses the bay they have no problem walking past the bays ot the front of the building to have a smoke or get coffee so I'll stick to my opinion that it shouldn't be parked there.

If you know the person and they dont have an acrod permit, then of course.. If they do have an acrod permit, then thats entitlement to park there...

Acrod has limits... I dont have an acrod permit, am entitled, but not useable here as most acrod bays are in the wrong place or too many people have acrod permits, so I dont bother, if I cant park near where I need to go, I go another day... But small country town makes a big difference...

If I was in the city, then I would get an acrod as I have had one up til a few years ago and am worse than back then....

If the person in question has no Acrod permit, then by all means, tell them to bugger off... If using a wheel chair, its impossible to get one between cars in nearly every parking bay...

[1950landy]

I took my twin grand daughters to the shopping center the other day & went to park in the parents with prams parking & all 6 were full so I parked else were making sure there were no cars parked around me so I would have room to get them in & out of the car & there was room tor the side by side pram. When I walked past the Parents with prams parking there was only one car with baby seats in it:thumbsdown: When I came back to my car there was a car parked on booth sides of me & parked so close I could not get the girls in :thumbsdown: I had to shift my car to get them into there seats. I don't know why they parked besides me as all the other car parks in the row I was parked in were empty.[bighmmm]

[350RRC]

There are many conditions that impede mobility, but do not preclude one's choice of vehicle.

Only a matter of time with a motorbike.

DL

[V8Ian]

Only a matter of time as a pedestrian or Land Rover driver if you don't do it properly.

[cuppabillytea]

How many times do you see cars doing lap after lap looking for a park right outside the door of a shopping centre when there's heaps of vacant spots just metres away.

Cheers, Murray

I don't have to do laps. I get that spot every time. SWMBO calls me a tinny arse.

Actually, those Parents with prams spots are for Sales Reps. Well, they're the only ones who seem to park in them at Market Town Leichhardt.

[DeeJay]

Chris,
There is a facebook page dedicated to "naming & shaming" & it seems action is taken by the police or councils..

Australian Disability Parking Wall of Shame public group | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/disabilityparkingwallofshame/)

[JDNSW]

As far as "looking" disabled, it is perhaps worth pointing out that my late wife had a disabled tag for perhaps six months before we had to get her a wheelchair, as she could only walk a short distance without stopping to recover. But she did not look disabled.

[cuppabillytea]

I noticed on the Farcebook Page, that one poor wheelchair bound chap is having to defend Himself in Court because his permit fell off.
Victim of the Vigilante mentality?

[DiscoMick]

In Qld it just says your ability to walk has to be 'severely restricted'.
Parking permits | People with disability | Queensland Government (https://www.qld.gov.au/disability/out-and-about/parking-permits/)'.

[Homestar]

As far as "looking" disabled, it is perhaps worth pointing out that my late wife had a disabled tag for perhaps six months before we had to get her a wheelchair, as she could only walk a short distance without stopping to recover. But she did not look disabled.


Yep, my next door neighbour has lost a leg but gets around ok most of the time - again, shorter distances - on a prosthetic, but is sometimes in a wheelchair as the prosthetic can't be worn all the time. He now wears shorts most of the time when getting around on it as he constantly gets abused for using disabled spaces (which he has a permit for). It's easier for him to wave it at people having a go at him rather than having to pull up his trousers to explain.