DieselGas

[weeds]

A mate sent me this link, have not fully read yet, it does not mention cost, looks like it improves power and fuel consumption, will have a better read tomorrow

http://www.dieselgas.com.au/technical.htm

[p38arover]

Have a look at the latest Aust 4WD Monthly. Mr Swagman (Mark Ellem) has had his Troopy converted at his own cost. He seems very pleased.

At least DieselGas know Land Rovers - both the owners drive Range Rovers with Isuzu 4BD1-T 3.9 diesels and are Land Rover specialists.

I've driven the blue Defender on that website and I can assure you that it is no slouch.

Ron

[George130]

A mob in Queenbeyan do the diesel funigation. I have herd thumbs up by a few people now who clain the fuel saving and performance increase is definatly there. I've had 2 quotes on was $3300 and the other $1800

[Grizzly_Adams]

I must admit I've read through their site and it definately looks interesting.

I've sent them a query on price and I'll see what they come back with.

[sclarke]

The part i love.....

He saved $12 over 1000km on fuel...
So if he averages 40,000 per year he will save $480 per year.
So it will pay for itself in about 7-8 years if LPG stays under 50cpl

Mmmmmmmm is it worth it?
OK he has more power, but unless you need that its not cheap...

How much further can you drive on $3500?
and thats hoping Diesel and LPG dont go up?

just wind the pump up and keep it under the EGT threashhold

[p38arover]

In my mind the fuel savings are minimal. Howeve, if one considers:

1. You now have, effectively, a long range tank - that's worth, say $800 for a Land Rover.

2. Performance increase equal to:

New exhaust
Turbo upgrade
Chip upgrade
Intercooler upgrade

then the price may be comparable. And when you change vehicles, you can recover most of the stuff to move to the next car. You can't reuse LPG fuel line, that would have to be new. Removal of all the rest wouldn't be difficult.

You may be able to remove the turbo, chip, and intercooler upgrades but unless they fit the new car, you won't get much for them second hand.

I think the decision comes down to whether you want/need the increase in power.

Ron

[Tusker]

And the LPG excise advantage is being phased out progressively too over the next few years. Supposedly it'll stil be cheaper, but the current price advantage will dissappear.

Regards
Max P

[101RRS]

Originally posted by sclarke
He saved $12 over 1000km on fuel...
So if he averages 40,000 per year he will save $480 per year.
So it will pay for itself in about 7-8 years if LPG stays under 50cpl


LPG is already 59.9c here - so we must be looking close to 10 years to pay back

[p38arover]

Originally posted by Tusker
And the LPG excise advantage is being phased out progressively too over the next few years. Supposedly it'll stil be cheaper, but the current price advantage will dissappear.

Regards
Max P

Excise will be applied from 2011 at a rate of 2.5 cent per year until it reaches a maximum of 12.5 cents in 2015.

There's your 10 years. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Ron

[Grizzly_Adams]

ok well I'll give them this much, they're quick to respond.

The quote I got for my '94 300tdi Defender 110 Station Wagon was $3800 fitted plus GST.

Extra's might include additional fittings if you already have a long range tank etc.

That's alot of money to recoop :-

Still I do like how clean it seems to make the diesel burn. The extra bang from the LPG burns off any remaining particles by the looks of it, and keeps the engine clean. So it may even increase you engine life?

Cheers all

[George130]

With me doing 40,000km a year they estimated 2 years or just under to recoup my money.

[disconut]

If you look at "security of supply" LPG is the way to go. (locally sourced fuel, not imported).
I think you need to run a fully LPG converted car to realise the above.
(ie a large V8 converted).

As long as you are dependent on imported fuel, or portions thereof its still a trade off situation.

Trev.

[sclarke]

as far as extra power, yes sounds good. but i dont think it is a viable project unless you do 50k or more a year.....