Given up on idiot Drivers

[Fatso]

At long last i have totally given up worrying for the outcome of idiot drivers who seem to think that they have the right to do what ever they want on our roads .
New philosophy is to give all a wide birth and get out of their way and let em do what ever their one cell brain can muster up , no point in getting ****ed off or upset as it does nothing to make one feel better , if they want to be the next road fatality then who am i to stand in their way . Rant Over . [thumbsupbig] .

[Mick_Marsh]

I gave up on them years ago.
I drive a crappy looking car they give a wide berth to.

[V8Ian]

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[Chops]

Yep,, there's lots of them here in Melbourne.
But I was a bit taken back heading back from Melrose. I came up behind a caravan,, all good, see my chance to take him, there's a bend coming up, and as I'm about to pull in front of him, I notice some clown in a crummydoor up my arse. Sink the boot to give him a bit more room,, just then, there's an oncoming car in the pic now. All good, we're both in. Next straight, he takes me at like 130 odd, slips in front, and slams on the brakes to do his version of 110. Total ******. So we traveled a bit with me 10' off his arse until I could go around him, then he decides to do my version of 110. :bat:

[V8Ian]

Who's a cranky pants then? :tease:

[Fatso]

Who's a cranky pants then? :tease:


X 2 .

[rangieman]

Who's a cranky pants then? :tease:
You know him aswell[bigrolf]

[Chops]

I've got a special mug,,, it telling me I'm a "Cranky old man" [biggrin]

[V8Ian]

I've been called a cranky old mug, most unfairly I might add.
This is the best I can offer.
122866

[trog]

I've been called a cranky old mug, most unfairly I might add.
This is the best I can offer.
122866

You settle for a bit of crockery for dealing with the road idiots , myself nothing short of rapid fire weapons mounted on the ute will make me a happy driver 😈

[ATH]

I didn't see the report personally but apparently Main Roads WA is thinking of closing all overtaking lanes on high usage weekends (read Easter etc.) in an effort to try to curb drivers racing past those holding them up!
What the heck are the lanes there for if it's not for letting others go past slower traffic?
We had classic situation coming down from about Geraldton a week ago. Got through to Jurien with no problems then find ourselves behind a small camper van stuck behind a large van towed by a LC 200.
This bloke in the 110 limit, (100 for ALL towing vehicles) never went over 94kph and whenever an advisory sign at a long bend said 90kph he immediately dropped to the mid 60s!!!
The turkey behind him had no idea which made the distance to overtake safely even longer but then he decided to do it but wouldn't dare exceed the limit and took so long to get past it was highly dangerous. Once past he took his foot off the throttle and just sat in front of the van and LC.
Eventually I booted the D4 and got past the van and the camper by exceeding the limit by quite a bit but as I was taught "Overtake as quickly as possible and return to the LH side of the road when safe to do so".
Don't think that would carry much weight with the idiots like Main Roads/cops/road safety theorisers who think all speed above walking pace is dangerous but that's the best way of doing it.
What the hell do they think closing off the overtaking lanes which is quite often the only chance of getting past idiots is going to do for driver behaviour on the roads?
AlanH.

[mekon76]

Having lived in Perth and moved to Victoria in last two years I hear you. One thing that ****s me here is right hand lane hogs that won't overtake and do 10 under the limit or deliberately slow you down and stuff traffic flow. Pro Tip: East link in the morning, the left most lane is the fastest flowing and less utilised. Despite the constant reminders about keeping left unless over taking.
The reason this really irks me, is when I get a page to turn out to a fire call and some douchebag decides to deliberately slow down in front of me. I'm not speeding, just getting there as quick as I can. I've had clowns brake check me right up to the fire station. ****ing ridiculous. Then again the people that don't get out the way of an appliance on code1 is ludicrous.

[V8Ian]

You settle for a bit of crockery for dealing with the road idiots , myself nothing short of rapid fire weapons mounted on the ute will make me a happy driver 😈
How much coffee does a rapid fire weapon hold? https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/05/973.jpg

[cuppabillytea]

Smile and wave boys. Smile and wave.[biggrin][thumbsupbig]

[Wraithe]

ATH, Brand highway/Grt Northern highway, is a nightmare...

I was heading to Perth from the North, got stuck behind a Rav4, just after bullsbrook. Rav slow in single lane, about 60 - 70. In overtaking lane it was just above speed limit.

This continued all the way past Yagen bridge in Upperswan.

Once I got to the over taking lane, just past Rakich's store, I run upto 80-85 and paced them while slowly gaining ahead.

The Rav tried to force me to let them in, but as my bullbar was a good 5 metres ahead of them, I ignored them and kept going at a few k's over the limit..

Once I turned onto Roe highway, this Rav came up my drivers side and the snotty bi&^% told me that trucks are not allowed to overtake and must travel 20k's below the speed limit.

Sadly, I was in too much shock to do anything but laugh...

Now an idea of why she was only 5 metres back from bullbar and had to slow down... I was 27.5 m long and just under a 100 Tonne... Idiot had no hope of pushing me out the way, may mess up the polish or dirty the tyres too...

[Mick_Marsh]

In the interests of road safety, remember, you must take over to drive in the right hand lane.
Sam Armytage slams driver for going TOO slow in right lane | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4468126/Sam-Armytage-slams-driver-going-slow-right-lane.html)

[V8Ian]

Top 10 Road Rules you never knew existed (http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/top-10-road-rules-you-never-knew-existed-20170503-gvy5it.html)

[Tombie]

Top 10 Road Rules you never knew existed (http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/top-10-road-rules-you-never-knew-existed-20170503-gvy5it.html)

Actually knew all of them [emoji48]

[trout1105]

ATH, Brand highway/Grt Northern highway, is a nightmare...

I often travel on these roads and have Never had any problems with the trucks using these roads.
If I am traveling at less than 100kph and I see a truck coming up behind me I will get on chan 40 and let them know that I will be pulling up to let them through and if I am travelling at better than 100kph I will again use my radio to see if it is safe to pass (Especially if it is raining), Usually I get a "NO worries" back or I will be told that when safe to do so I will get the pass signal.
Common curtesy is alive and well in the WA trucking industry [thumbsupbig]

[V8Ian]

Actually knew all of them [emoji48]
yeah, me too. Just a bit of click bait really.

[cuppabillytea]

I usually don'y bother with right lane hogs. I just follow the path of least resistance. However sometimes when I think the hog is just bit too much and I have the time, I play Shepard and shuffle the offender into a better position, simply by making them feel slightly uncomfortable where they are.

[V8Ian]

I usually don'y bother with right lane hogs. I just follow the path of least resistance. However sometimes when I think the hog is just bit too much and I have the time, I play Shepard and shuffle the offender into a better position, simply by making them feel slightly uncomfortable where they are.
Hmmm, I'm not Robinson Crusoe, eh. [bigwhistle]

[cuppabillytea]

Hmmm, I'm not Robinson Crusoe, eh. [bigwhistle]

Somehow I knew you would be on the same Island.[wink11]

[Wraithe]

I often travel on these roads and have Never had any problems with the trucks using these roads.
If I am traveling at less than 100kph and I see a truck coming up behind me I will get on chan 40 and let them know that I will be pulling up to let them through and if I am travelling at better than 100kph I will again use my radio to see if it is safe to pass (Especially if it is raining), Usually I get a "NO worries" back or I will be told that when safe to do so I will get the pass signal.
Common curtesy is alive and well in the WA trucking industry [thumbsupbig]

Regans Ford CBH to Forestfield CBH, what a lovely run.. Not bad on the Brand but get past Bullsbrook and your in a war zone..

You are probably one of the people that was quite courteous on our way into Perth.. Especially those long pulls between Regans Ford and Gingin.. I was lucky when doing that run, I had an overpowered prime mover and could hold just under 80 on the steep pulls, if I didn't get held up when approaching the climbs.. Which you would understand, as I was well over 80 tonnes on that run...

Coming out of Perth, was the opposite effect...

[ATH]

We haven't used the Brand Hwy since Indian Ocean Dr was opened years ago. Trucks use the Brand for obvious reasons as they can run straight into the industrial areas from it.
When ever we're on a hwy used by them I stay tuned to Ch.40 and let them know that they can come past as soon as they can see it's clear or if there are floodways where the bitch is wider, I pull over and give them more space.
Plus when pulling the van I travel at 95kph (100pkh is tops for towing vehicles in WA) which gives them and cars a bit of extra to get past and I also advise trucks I'll brake if necessary when they're passing if oncoming appears.
A bit of courtesy to other drivers doesn't take much effort but don't expect any acknowledgement from WA drivers if you give any to them.
AlanH.

[Pickles2]

I usually don'y bother with right lane hogs. I just follow the path of least resistance. However sometimes when I think the hog is just bit too much and I have the time, I play Shepard and shuffle the offender into a better position, simply by making them feel slightly uncomfortable where they are.
I don't normally worry either, particularly on a highway, speeds are higher, so I'll just overtake on the left etc, if it's two lanes of course.
However in the suburbs, if someones hogging the right hand lane at say 55ks in a 60 zone, & I'm behind for a while, & they clearly know I want to get by, I will overtake, pull over in front & sit on 50ks for a while,..just so they know what it's like,....sometimes they even move over into the inside/left lane!
Childish I know, wifey doesn't like me doing it, but how else are these "drivers" gonna be woken up.
I don't often do it, but sometimes.......
Quite happy, and prepared, to be flamed. Pickles.

[cuppabillytea]

I don't normally worry either, particularly on a highway, speeds are higher, so I'll just overtake on the left etc, if it's two lanes of course.
However in the suburbs, if someones hogging the right hand lane at say 55ks in a 60 zone, & I'm behind for a while, & they clearly know I want to get by, I will overtake, pull over in front & sit on 50ks for a while,..just so they know what it's like,....sometimes they even move over into the inside/left lane!
Childish I know, wifey doesn't like me doing it, but how else are these "drivers" gonna be woken up.
I don't often do it, but sometimes.......
Quite happy, and prepared, to be flamed. Pickles.

I'm not going to flame you for that Pickles.
Suffice to say two wrongs don't make a right, and the other drivers might be a bit peeved as well.
Try my method and see how you go. Leave them to commune with the Pixies and just gently shepherd them out of the way. You're get a kick out of it when you pull it off.

[Tombie]

And Mr Pickles. In a 60, 70, 80 zone traffic is entitled to be where it pleases..
As annoying as it may be [emoji6]

[Vern]

And Mr Pickles. In a 60, 70, 80 zone traffic is entitled to be where it pleases..
As annoying as it may be [emoji6]
Not in 80 zones in NSW however, traffic must stick to the left unless overtaking

[rangieman]

Not in 80 zones in NSW however, traffic must stick to the left unless overtaking
And from VicRoads[wink11]
Keeping left

When driving on any multi-lane road with a speed limit over 80km/h, you must keep out of the right lane unless you are:


overtaking
turning right
if all lanes are congested.

If the right lane is a transit lane, this rule applies to the lane immediately to the left of the transit lane.

[Pickles2]

And Mr Pickles. In a 60, 70, 80 zone traffic is entitled to be where it pleases..
As annoying as it may be [emoji6]
Yes, I'm aware of that, I was referring to 60 kph in the suburbs, where unthinking drivers sit on 55 or under, holding everyone up,..as I said I don't worry on higher speed, multi lane roads, as you say, annoying though it may be.
Pickles.

[Eevo]

And from VicRoads[wink11]
Keeping left

When driving on any multi-lane road with a speed limit over 80km/h, you must keep out of the right lane unless you are:


overtaking
turning right
if all lanes are congested.

If the right lane is a transit lane, this rule applies to the lane immediately to the left of the transit lane.


notice it says over 80km/h

so roads that are 80, the rules doesnt apply

[Tombie]

Not in 80 zones in NSW however, traffic must stick to the left unless overtaking

Not according to the RTA site..

Over 80 - Not 80..... [emoji41]

[rangieman]

notice it says over 80km/h

so roads that are 80, the rules doesnt apply
Rules are there to be broken some say [bigwhistle]
But honestly common sense and respect for other road users law braking or not has been lost over the years[wink11]

[V8Ian]

Basic tenant, one of the first rules of motoring 'drive as close to the left as possible'.

[Fatso]

Basic tenant, one of the first rules of motoring 'drive as close to the left as possible'.

Some interpret that as "drive as close to the vehicle in front as possible " , ( and before it starts ) [tonguewink] , "at the posted speed limit " .

[Eevo]

Some interpret that as "drive as close to the vehicle in front as possible " , ( and before it starts ) [tonguewink] , "at the posted speed limit " .


if your being tailgated, it means your going too slow

[Fatso]

if your being tailgated, it means your going too slow

Oh Dear its a worry , read the post again , sloooowly .

[Eevo]

Oh Dear its a worry , read the post again , sloooowly .
don't go slower! go faster!!!
that right foot, push it, all the way to the floor. go go go go go go!!!!

[bee utey]

It's always good to travel at or just below the speed limit on long weekends, them the dickheads rush past you and get sprung for lots of excess vroom at the frequent speed traps on the way home. [biggrin]

[Pickles2]

Rules are there to be broken some say [bigwhistle]
But honestly common sense and respect for other road users law braking or not has been lost over the years[wink11]
That's right, ya can babble on about all sorts of stuff on our roads, but, as you say, and you are correct, and I agree 100%, "common sense & respect has been lost".
Pickles.

[V8Ian]

That's right, ya can babble on about all sorts of stuff on our roads, but, as you say, and you are correct, and I agree 100%, "common sense & respect has been lost".
Pickles.
Agree to a point, remember you won't notice four out of five vehicles as they're doing the right thing. The fifth is a right plonker though.

[Tombie]

It's always good to travel at or just below the speed limit on long weekends, them the dickheads rush past you and get sprung for lots of excess vroom at the frequent speed traps on the way home. [biggrin]

Problem is many drive just below the posted limit using their 10% out bloody speedo!!! [emoji49]

Try getting stuck behind that type of [emoji90] for 4 hours!

[bee utey]

Problem is many drive just below the posted limit using their 10% out bloody speedo!!! [emoji49]

Try getting stuck behind that type of [emoji90] for 4 hours!

Since I've started to travel with a GPS I've noticed that an old style speedo's error is temperature dependent. Cold they read near correct, hot they read up to 10% higher than actual speed. Put the cabin heater on and travel for a bit and your speedo shows progressively more discrepancy. By law they are not allowed to read under so what chance does a poor person have of getting it right?

[rick130]

The truism that once you have dual lanes everyone speeds up so you can't pass and then drop back to 90km/h or slower for single lane is driving me batty atm !

Was following one car (a near new Cruise?) on the Pacific yesterday between Ballina and Grafton and their speed varied from 80-110km/h, all in the 100km/h zone.
Guess what speed for which section of bitumen!

Most others weren't much different.
Hasn't anyone heard of cruise control?

[trout1105]

their speed varied from 80-110km/h

The tosser was probably Texting :rulez:

[Eevo]

Hasn't anyone heard of cruise control?


my disco doesnt have cruise control.
but then again, i usually do 10 over the limit

[cuppabillytea]

my disco doesnt have cruise control.
but then again, i usually do 10 over the limit

You're Disco is over the limit.

[cuppabillytea]

Agree to a point, remember you won't notice four out of five vehicles as they're doing the right thing. The fifth is a right plonker though.

I's be a little more generous and say 1/20, but I haven't driven a Truck since 1980.

[NavyDiver]

I'd say less than 1 in20 tossers. We don't notice the normal courteous drivers except giving or receiving a wave for those we give room for lane changes.

Saw my ONE today. Driving in the right lane of a two lane road with my right indicator on. A car drove out of a driveway into the left lane then changed to the right lane behind me. I was stopping waiting to turn right before he move lane. When stopped the car behind stopped rather than going around via the left lane. No traffic at all in the left lane. Lots of on coming traffic had me stopped for 30-60 seconds. Got the horn from the tosser at about 20s in and every 10s or so till it was clear to turn[tonguewink]

[V8Ian]

Rules are there to be broken some say [bigwhistle]
But honestly common sense and respect for other road users law braking or not has been lost over the years[wink11]
This subject has been mooted for for a century.
A quote from Sir Herbert Austin, almost a hundred years ago:

My other little bit of advice, chiefly tendered to the younger generation is: Be courteous. I do not address this to the younger generation because I think they are any less courteous than were their fathers, but because they have to carry on the good work. They were born with a steering wheel between their hands, and it is up to them to see that throughout their lives they are able to make the very best use of it. If motorists will practise a perpetual courtesy then will the motor car establish itself still more firmly in popular favour, and primitive legislation, which still hampers development, will be swept away. Common sense' and courtesy are the qualities required to make motoring safe."

[tact]

Justice served!

if it has escaped your attention somehow: a woman was booked for driving too slow in the right lane on James Ruse Dr in Sydney. (This is one of the routes I use on my daily office commute)

she was so ****ed off she posted a video rant on FB claiming unfair ticket. It went viral. The link is to a good interview of the woman getting another serve from interviewers!

Sunrise: Sam Armytage clashes with Lena Kasparian in heated interview | Video (http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/morning-shows/sam-armytage-and-david-koch-less-than-impressed-with-sunrise-guest-lena-kasparian/news-story/b5ef12c5a61c912bfac7e4542e09a548)

[Mick_Marsh]

Justice served!

if it has escaped your attention somehow: a woman was booked for driving too slow in the right lane on James Ruse Dr in Sydney. (This is one of the routes I use on my daily office commute)

she was so ****ed off she posted a video rant on FB claiming unfair ticket. It went viral. The link is to a good interview of the woman getting another serve from interviewers!

Sunrise: Sam Armytage clashes with Lena Kasparian in heated interview | Video (http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/morning-shows/sam-armytage-and-david-koch-less-than-impressed-with-sunrise-guest-lena-kasparian/news-story/b5ef12c5a61c912bfac7e4542e09a548)
Good morning Niel. Nice of you to join us in this thread.
I refer you to post #16.


James, you saw just the one?
I went for a drive into the greater Melbourne area yesterday. Dallas, actually.
I saw heaps.
O wonder if I caught them on the dash cam.

[tact]

Good morning Niel. Nice of you to join us in this thread.
I refer you to post #16.

It's Neil. ...humblest apologies for duplicating a post - am not usually so careless.