Who's owned an XR6?

[Disco Muppet]

Mike and Justin you're not allowed to comment [emoji13]
With the disco having lunched a Conrod bearing I find myself lacking the time and motivation to play with it. I'm currently working a 12/2 roster which leaves my time off in short supply, and I'll have increasing weekend commitments in the lead up to 6 months of study, during which I'll be travelling home during weekends. So I'm looking for a car with a bit of zip that I can drive for that while the disco sulks in the shed. I'm leaning towards a BA-BF XR6 at the moment, have taken some for a drive and they seem good if a tad soulless. However there's not a whole lot of
Information about their issues online, save for posts about diff bushes and transmission coolers. Anyone here have any experience with that range XR6?

[rick130]

Can ask one of my mates, he had one for a few years and loved it (ex Holden/HSV bloke)
He now punts a Fiesta XR5.

[Mclaren00]

Owned a ba Merlin basically a Xr without kit and was up there for best car owned
Only drama I had was coils can crack easy but found new oem online for fraction what ford sell them

[Tombie]

Hahaha. Perhaps be more specific...

An XR6 when it's young vs a Budget high Km version will get you significantly different answers... [emoji41]

[V8Ian]

Robust, reliable, economical to repair and run if not constantly hoofed.
The rear suspension bushes are a simple repair if the bolts are reversed, in order that the nuts are accessible.
There was a recall on the steering rack, easy fix to stop the securing nuts coming loose.
Add an extra earth from the radiator direct to the battery.

Also consider the same model in Fairlane variant.

[bee utey]

Hahaha. Perhaps be more specific...

An XR6 when it's young vs a Budget high Km version will get you significantly different answers... [emoji41]

Exactly that. Even BF's are now well aged and prone to plastic bits falling off. But then D2 owners would be used to that sort of thing already... [bighmmm]

[justinc]

🙈🙉🙊

[pop058]

Consider a Territory of the same era ??

[Toxic_Avenger]

Have you thought about calling a local mechanic? Preferably one that services the local taxis etc?

(Yes that was a taxi joke in disguise)

[Rob2]

Besides My Landy's my daily drive is a beautifull 2000 model 75th anniversary Futura XR6.
It has done 190 K trouble free and is a delight to drive.

This model Ford is reputed to be the most reliable Australian built car ever made.
The lads on the Ford Forum say it is not uncommon for them to do 5 or 6 hundred thousand k's trouble free.
The secret apparently is to give them a proper service twice a year.

Mine is a keeper.

[justinc]

Besides My Landy's my daily drive is a beautifull 2000 model 75th anniversary Futura XR6.
It has done 190 K trouble free and is a delight to drive.

This model Ford is reputed to be the most reliable Australian built car ever made.
The lads on the Ford Forum say it is not uncommon for them to do 5 or 6 hundred thousand k's trouble free.
The secret apparently is to give them a proper service twice a year.

Mine is a keeper.

An AU as the most reliable aussie car ever built??? Gawd help us...😮😮😐😐 and Beautiful??? Pllleeease😛😝😝😝

[cuppabillytea]

Have you thought about calling a local mechanic? Preferably one that services the local taxis etc?

(Yes that was a taxi joke in disguise)

I bought my EL Falcon and the subsequent Territory on the advice of a Taxi operator and had 14 years of dirt cheap motoring.
The standard non turbo motor has plenty of poke and both cars were fun to drive, not to mention comfy.
Oh and Muppet, the Terry handles much better than it's live axil Brother on B Class roads.

Ian's advice is sound too but I would add moving the Regulator to the Fire Wall.

[Grumbles]

Had a BF Mark 11 XR6. Totally reliable and very economical to run. It was serviced every 6 months regardless of distance traveled by the selling Ford dealer and their prices were not onerous. I was really sorry to see it go and still regret moving it on but "her indoors" wanted a change of cars just because.

[Gordie]

Have had an XE falcon, great car. Had an ED '94 falcon for 10yrs, had done 250km when I got it, and about 400km when I had finished with it, never let me down, had the obligatory 'head done' once, but not bad for those k's. Now have an FG XR8, best car I have ever owned. I skipped a few models between the ED and FG....but I have known a few owners of BA's and they have been very happy with them.

One in particular, who had a BA XR8 reckoned it was a terrific car, but when he got the FG XR8 he reckoned that was better again. So I think you would be safe with a BA, but if you could afford it, there are plenty of nice cheap FG XR6's out there.

[justinc]

AAAARGH is there no end to the depravity????

😄😄😄

[Rob2]

An AU as the most reliable aussie car ever built??? Gawd help us...�������� and Beautiful??? Pllleeease��������

No doubt about it dick.

Me Ford is beautiful.

So is Me Disco, a 1991 V8 efi 3 door. Me pride and joy that has taken me all over Oz.

So was Me Rangy, a 1998 P38A 5 ltr before the recent cyclone destroyed it.

The boys on the Ford forum also say that my XR6 model is not run in until they
have done 250,000 K.

I would suggest that those boys on the Ford forum know as much about Fords as we do on our AULRO forum.

My first Ford was a 1937 side valve V8, loved it.
I have owned 8 Fords over the years.

I drove my first Landrover in the Army in 1959.
I bought my first new one in 1962 and have owned 7 since, love them.

[justinc]

No doubt about it dick.

Me Ford is beautiful.

So is Me Disco, a 1991 V8 efi 3 door. Me pride and joy that has taken me all over Oz.

So was Me Rangy, a 1998 P38A 5 ltr before the recent cyclone destroyed it.

The boys on the Ford forum also say that my XR6 model is not run in until they
have done 250,000 K.

I would suggest that those boys on the Ford forum know as much about Fords as we do on our AULRO forum.

My first Ford was a 1937 side valve V8, loved it.
I have owned 8 Fords over the years.

I drove my first Landrover in the Army in 1959.
I bought my first new one in 1962 and have owned 7 since, love them.

Aaargh my eyes my eyes!!!😯😯😯😅😅😅😅

[BigJon]

A few common Falcon problems that I see. In no particular order.

Warped brake discs.
Front lower ball joints.
Front upper ball joints.
Front upper inner bushes.
Rear bushes (all of them including control blade).
Tailshaft centre bearing.
Exhaust cracked through in front of cat convertor.
Diff mount bushes.
Throttle body issues.
Coil issues.
Rear shock bushes (requires shock replacement).
Sway bar mount bushes (front and rear).
Auto trans catastrophic failure.

I think the engines are basically pretty robust. Have seen a wrecker advertising them for $75, which indicates that they don't sell very many of them.

[Rob2]

Aaargh my eyes my eyes!!!��������������

Heh Heh.

Yep, seeing is believing.

[justinc]

😅😅😅😅😅

...or not as the case may be...

[1950landy]

I have a 2006 Falcon Ute owned it for around 7 years now has been reliable it is just coming up to 200,000k's , good towing ability & quite good on fuel. when I go up to Warwick from Brisbane towing A car on a trailer booth ways , will go up & back on a tank & have enough fuel to last me rest of week. I have done the same trip With Son in laws Dunnydoor 1 ton I need to fill up so I can get home. Also they are easier to work on , had to change Start motor on my ute , I would rather do 10 Falcon ones than do 1 Dunnydoor one. [bighmmm]

[shanegtr]

I had a BA XR6 last year. Was a good car for open highway cruising, but I thought it was a bit gutless. I'd go for the xr6 turbo or xr8 if I had my time again

[Eevo]

this can only end in tears

[Tote]

I've got a BF2 RTV ute on dedicated gas. I bought it with 50,000KM on it and it now has over 200,000. It would be one of the cheapest vehicles to run and maintain that I have ever owned.
I've replaced the following bits:

2 lower front balljoints at about 100K
Both front shocks as they were leaking
Battery
1 set of plugs ( service item)
Brake disks and pads, replaced the disks with DBA slotted ones.

Its coming up for its 10 year recertification on the gas tank and it needs two upper ball joints and a new hood lining so I'll need to spend a bit on it soon. The brake shudder is not usually warped rotors either. If you push the pistons back into the calipers it fixes it for a while but it is able to be rectified by adjusting the coupling between the booster and the master cylinder. If you get a liquid injection gas motor they actually have a bit more power than the petrol one.
The reason I bought the RTV is I have a history of removing front spoilers on low cars, bear this in mind with the XR6. Have a look at the G6 and G6e, there are some good ones around that have more fruit and are less likely to be given a hard time than an XR as well.

Regards,
Tote

[Tombie]

I have a 2006 Falcon Ute owned it for around 7 years now has been reliable it is just coming up to 200,000k's , good towing ability & quite good on fuel. when I go up to Warwick from Brisbane towing A car on a trailer booth ways , will go up & back on a tank & have enough fuel to last me rest of week. I have done the same trip With Son in laws Dunnydoor 1 ton I need to fill up so I can get home. Also they are easier to work on , had to change Start motor on my ute , I would rather do 10 Falcon ones than do 1 Dunnydoor one. [bighmmm]

That would have been pushing the limits of it...

Unless you were towing a Mini Moke on the trailer [emoji41]

[Disco Muppet]

this can only end in tears

Not likely. It's not got an LS in it

[cuppabillytea]

AAAARGH is there no end to the depravity????

😄😄😄

Depravity is fun, don't you know?

[1950landy]

That would have been pushing the limits of it...

Unless you were towing a Mini Moke on the trailer [emoji41]
Towing 80" LR & also Jaguar mk7 race car. The Falcon tows the LR & the Jag at the speed limit up Cunningham Gap , the V6 dunnydoor struggles & alarms go off 3/4 's of the way up when towing the LR.we towe the Jag to Morgan Park , Winton, Wakefield Park & Sanndown for historic racing , either with my brothers or my BA Falcon Ute's.

[cuppabillytea]

Bloke at work has a blue one for 4G you could easily twist his arm I'm sure.

[incisor]

get a fairmont, they are a much more comfortable vehicle IMHO

[bigwhistle]

[Disco Muppet]

I decided a 190KW car would be very bad for my license. I bought something sensible instead...

[Eevo]

123221

[rangieman]

123221
As the saying goes if the hat fits[wink11]
That is so sensible for our green friend[bigwhistle]

[pop058]

I decided a 190KW car would be very bad for my license. I bought something sensible instead...

:rulez:

[Disco Muppet]

Not yet [emoji6]

[Grumbles]

get a fairmont, they are a much more comfortable vehicle IMHO

[bigwhistle]

Funny that you say that. It is exactly what the car sales guy said to us when we were buying. He said older folks need.....errrr...like...... the softer ride. Hrrrmmphh!!!! So we took one for a drive and yes - it was comfortable and made more so by its factory fitted decent tyre sidewall height. Then we drove the XR6 with its low profile wide tyres. No contest! Comfort be damned....we bought the XR6.

[mick88]

I had a BA XR6 last year. Was a good car for open highway cruising, but I thought it was a bit gutless. I'd go for the xr6 turbo or xr8 if I had my time again

"A bit gutless" What is your cruising speed?

I would go for the Fairmont, nice comfy ride etc.
Why have low profile tyres and harsh ride just so you can pee blood at the end of a journey!

Cheers, Mick.

[trout1105]

What was wrong with just buying another Disco [bigwhistle]

[Disco Muppet]

What indeed?....

[incisor]

No contest! Comfort be damned....we bought the XR6.

how does harder suspension increase the performance? unless your going round in circles all day...

same donk unless you go the turbo version...

[Disco Muppet]

Yeah but it looks fast [emoji16]

[incisor]

Yeah but it looks fast [emoji16]
only if it's red!

[shanegtr]

"A bit gutless" What is your cruising speed?

I would go for the Fairmont, nice comfy ride etc.
Why have low profile tyres and harsh ride just so you can pee blood at the end of a journey!

Cheers, Mick.
The cruising speed had nothing to do with it, but how quickly it made overtaking triple road trains was a little disappointing for me. A V6 toyota Kluger has more getup and go IMHO

[Rob2]

I open up the garage everyday just to gaze at it.

Sigh.

[justinc]

I open up the garage everyday just to gaze at it.

Sigh.

😝😝😝 please my eyes!!!!

[rick130]

😝😝😝 please my eyes!!!!

:Rolling:

[Rob2]

������ please my eyes!!!!


Hmmm, one eyed, huh !!!

[rangieman]

Hmmm, one eyed, huh !!!
I have owned a AU2 futura many moons ago fantastic car and i didn`t mind the looks [wink11]
But i like defers and series so obviously my taste wont count[bigwhistle]

[pop058]

An older model I know but with the Tickford running gear and all the Ghia fruit, I think they are a great option if your looking at that sort of thing. Mine (this one) had just over 400k on it it before the daughter put it into a guard rail.


123244

A BA/BF Fairlane makes a very comfortable interstater.

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web pic

[Disco Muppet]

My axle stands aren't suitable for small cars. Guess that means I have to own another Land Rover...

[justinc]

An older model I know but with the Tickford running gear and all the Ghia fruit, I think they are a great option if your looking at that sort of thing. Mine (this one) had just over 400k on it it before the daughter put it into a guard rail.


123244

A BA/BF Fairlane makes a very comfortable interstater.

123245
web pic


For the same price a used Lexus LS 400 is 50 times the car.... I'm still at a loss as to why there is so much support for these poorly designed and built cars....

[rangieman]

For the same price a used Lexus LS 400 is 50 times the car.... I'm still at a loss as to why there is so much support for these poorly designed and built cars....
You say this and like our quality built LR`s:Rolling:

[Tins]

If you do go this route, try and get the later BA/BF or FG with the six speed ZF.

[Tins]

The cruising speed had nothing to do with it, but how quickly it made overtaking triple road trains was a little disappointing for me. A V6 toyota Kluger has more getup and go IMHO

Then there was something wrong with it. My wife's BA Fairmont eats Klugers.

[shanegtr]

In all fairness the Kluger was a rental[thumbsupbig]

[Toxic_Avenger]

For the same price a used Lexus LS 400 is 50 times the car.... I'm still at a loss as to why there is so much support for these poorly designed and built cars....

Just sayin... the 1UZFE has the starter motor in the valley under the intake manifold. Not a simple job to replace.

But I would have no issues rolling in a JDM Celsior or even better the V12 Toyota Century. Yakuza style.

[V8Ian]

I open up the garage everyday just to gaze at it.

Sigh.
Totally understandable.

[BigJon]

Just sayin... the 1UZFE has the starter motor in the valley under the intake manifold. Not a simple job to replace.

.

Also needs expensive timing belt replacement every 100 000km. But a great engine nonetheless (as is the 2UZ).

[cuppabillytea]

I think the XL and EL Falcons were the most beautiful vehicles ever made in Australia. I wish I could have my EL back.

[pop058]

I think the XL and EL Falcons were the most beautiful vehicles ever made in Australia. I wish I could have my EL back.

XL (1960 ??)

[cuppabillytea]

XL (1960 ??)

Close 1962.

[pop058]

Close 1962.

I thought it might have been a typo and meant to be EF.

[Tins]

I think the XL and EL Falcons were the most beautiful vehicles ever made in Australia. I wish I could have my EL back.

I have an EF Fairmont, with a large number of bits and bobs, including a genuine Tickford head and cam to fit, if you'd care to make an offer...

[cuppabillytea]

I have an EF Fairmont, with a large number of bits and bobs, including a genuine Tickford head and cam to fit, if you'd care to make an offer...

Attractive but no thanks.............Hmmmmmmmmmmmm......Yeh, no thanks.

[Tins]

Don't really blame you. I'm struggling to find the time to put it together myself. Just that all the bits, including a good auto and all the gaskets and timing chains and everything are sitting there.... thing is, I had it all together to do a good thing to the car, and my RRC decided to roll backwards down the driveway and hit the Ford up the RRS. SWMBO didn't want to have to wait, and I blame her not at all, so now I have t find time to put all this stuff, about $1500, into a $400 car.
Life. Who'd have it..... lol.

[Tins]

Got a bootlid and rear light as well.....

[LRDan]

Just to add my 2c, aim for a BF with the 6 speed auto.

All the common problems have been listed earlier, but also worth mentioning a few of the earlier ones (BA) seem to be rusting. Seen a few with rusting rad supports, a friend has a BA wagon with rust in the top of the tailgate, also around bonnet and boot hinges.

Also go the Mighty EL, still have mine, first car :wub:

[incisor]

the ba/bf with the 6speed auto if a 5-6k fix I am told

ba/bf with 4speed auto is a 2k fix

bf are a better vehicle when it comes to rust resistance thats for sure.

but the ba has heaps of panel plugs so you can rust proof them if you get a good one...

[Tombie]

Must say my EF/EL hybrid was a fantastic 4 door sedan for the time (and my then income).

Having said that, it was essentially modified to full track spec complete with full weld in CAMS approved roll cage, fully adjustable suspension etc etc....

By then it really shouldn't have seen the road but awesome fun [emoji41]

[LRDan]

the ba/bf with the 6speed auto if a 5-6k fix I am told

ba/bf with 4speed auto is a 2k fix

bf are a better vehicle when it comes to rust resistance thats for sure.

but the ba has heaps of panel plugs so you can rust proof them if you get a good one...


I haven't met/heard of anyone with stock power that has needed a 6 speed rebuilt yet.

And very true re: rust proofing, just worth mentioning if looking to buy.

Dan

[incisor]

I haven't met/heard of anyone with stock power that has needed a 6 speed rebuilt yet.


my mechanic lectured me over it.. reckons he has seen a few..

I'll ask him for specifics on Thursday if I remember...

[Tins]

I haven't met/heard of anyone with stock power that has needed a 6 speed rebuilt yet.

And very true re: rust proofing, just worth mentioning if looking to buy.

Dan

Funny, I've seen quite a few of these, and the only rust I have seen has been a: under the battery, b: under the brake booster, and c:. at the site of poor panel repairs. Even the 850,000km EF ex taxi that I drove for around five years, which had had more hits than The Beatles only had rust in the bootlid, and under the battery. We have a BA MkII ATM which has no rust whatsoever.

[Tins]

the ba/bf with the 6speed auto if a 5-6k fix I am told

ba/bf with 4speed auto is a 2k fix

bf are a better vehicle when it comes to rust resistance thats for sure.

but the ba has heaps of panel plugs so you can rust proof them if you get a good one...


Six speeds on Fleabay are between $400 and $2000. If they were a; liable to detonate, and b; expensive to repair, I doubt they'd be that cheap.

The 6HP26 in the Disco and RR is a different matter, of course.

[LRDan]

Even the 850,000km EF ex taxi that I drove for around five years, which had had more hits than The Beatles only had rust in the bootlid, and under the battery. We have a BA MkII ATM which has no rust whatsoever.

I'm specifically talking about BA/F, the EF/L is very solid from what I have seen. Worst rust I've seen in an E series is the inner sill, from a seaside Fairlane. I am of the belief there is more bare metal in B series. Don't remember where I got that info though.


And I'd be very interested to hear your Mechanics experiences Incisor!


EDIT: johntins, I'd be keen to see if your BA has any rust on the rad support between bumper and radiator, also the seam in the boot near where the struts attach.. from underneath

[BigJon]

BAs, BFs and Territories are renowned for rust.

[Disco Muppet]

Good thing I didn't buy a BA, or a BF, or a territory...

[Toxic_Avenger]

So what DID you buy?
Spill the beans!

[Tins]

BAs, BFs and Territories are renowned for rust.

Renowned by who? If Ford had let standards slip that much it would be al over the forums, and yet I see nothing... The things are everywhere, and I don't see it. Frankly, I'd need some evidence, rather than hearsay.

[Tins]

I'm specifically talking about BA/F, the EF/L is very solid from what I have seen. Worst rust I've seen in an E series is the inner sill, from a seaside Fairlane. I am of the belief there is more bare metal in B series. Don't remember where I got that info though.


And I'd be very interested to hear your Mechanics experiences Incisor!


EDIT: johntins, I'd be keen to see if your BA has any rust on the rad support between bumper and radiator, also the seam in the boot near where the struts attach.. from underneath

Well, Broken Hill is only a day trip. The car is here if you want to come see. You can check out my daughters XR8 while you're here.

No accommodation provided, but I would give you a feed and a bevvie.

[Toxic_Avenger]

Renowned by who? If Ford had let standards slip that much it would be al over the forums, and yet I see nothing... The things are everywhere, and I don't see it. Frankly, I'd need some evidence, rather than hearsay.

Had an employer with a early model (2005-ish) territory. They lived next to the ocean, and it was rusted through in 3 years. From what I was told, Ford replaced complete vehicle with a non disclosure agreement. So yeah, take that as it is. You only read what they let you read.

[Disco Muppet]

So what DID you buy?
Spill the beans!

A Land Rover...

[pop058]

A Land Rover...

another Oslo Blue ??

[Disco Muppet]

No.
White.
Chawton white I think.
And I'm still not sure what to do with that one. Part it out and flog everything off or keep and go wild with it. I don't know [emoji20]

[incisor]

The ba has a history of A pillars rusting out

[justinc]

No.
White.
Chawton white I think.
And I'm still not sure what to do with that one. Part it out and flog everything off or keep and go wild with it. I don't know [emoji20]

WTH?????


JC

[Disco Muppet]

The blue one JC...

[Eevo]

rrs?

[Tombie]

So what DID you buy?
Spill the beans!

An iconic piece of motoring....

A classic marvel of engineering

Some say the pinnacle of automotive excellence....

[Disco Muppet]

Wait, I bought diggers Magna?

[rangieman]

An iconic piece of motoring....

A classic marvel of engineering

Some say the pinnacle of automotive excellence....
48-215:Rolling:

[V8Ian]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/05/438.jpg

[rick130]

An iconic piece of motoring....

A classic marvel of engineering

Some say the pinnacle of automotive excellence....


He's finally seen the light and bought a 300Tdi Deefer ? [biggrin]

[BigJon]

Renowned by who? If Ford had let standards slip that much it would be al over the forums, and yet I see nothing... The things are everywhere, and I don't see it. Frankly, I'd need some evidence, rather than hearsay.

I am a mechanic. Every Falcon and Territory I work on is rusty, if you know where to look. And I see plenty of talk about it on car forums I frequent.

[justinc]

I try not to work on them, it is as soul destroying and boring as night fill at the supermarket. ..

[V8Ian]

I try not to work on them, it is as soul destroying and boring as night fill at the supermarket. ..
Me too, but that doesn't change the fact that they are a comfortable, economical and brisk milemaker.

[justinc]

Me too, but that doesn't change the fact that they are a comfortable, economical and brisk milemaker.
....sorry Ian your phone seems to be breaking up. . I have trouble hearing you...

😅😅

[V8Ian]

....sorry Ian your phone seems to be breaking up. . I have trouble hearing you...

😅😅:tease:

[Tins]

Me too, but that doesn't change the fact that they are a comfortable, economical and brisk milemaker.

I'm with you. I have had many Fords, the most remarkable being the ex cab, the most notable being the ex police interceptor XA. Every one of them, from the XT Fairmont, through the XY panel van, via the XA, the XE ESP ( god, I wish I still had that! ), two EFs and now the BA, has been reliable, basically comfortable, easy to repair, mechanically basically bulletproof, cheap to insure and parts, if needed, are available everywhere. Sure, the trim is a bit naff, but no more so than a Commodore. The Falcon and it's variants, and the Commodore and it's, were victim to economies of scale, nothing else.

[Tins]

I am a mechanic. Every Falcon and Territory I work on is rusty, if you know where to look. And I see plenty of talk about it on car forums I frequent.


Sorry, but calling yourself a mechanic lends no weight to your position. I, too, am a qualified mech. I choose not to work in that field anymore, but my opinion is worth as much as yours. I prefer to talk to the panel trade when it comes to rust. I'm just not hearing it. Ford have built well over 100,000 of the things, not including Territory, and yet a simple Google of "BA Falcon rust" turns up very few hits, top of the list being a forum thread based in 2005/6.

I see "plenty of talk" about the unreliability of Land Rovers on the forums I frequent. So what? As I said, I'm not interested in hearsay. Documented evidence is needed. If the BA was as bad as this thread suggests, Ford would have issued a recall. Any occurrence of structural rust in the first seven years since production would have assured it, as the Govt. demands it.

I repeat my opinion. The most likely cause of rust in any car built since the mid 90s is poor accident damage repair. Even in Alfa Romeos. If there is any evidence around that undamaged Fords are rusting, present it to Ford. I'll bet you get an answer.

[Toxic_Avenger]

Mods please change title of thread from 'who's owned an XR6' to 'bugger you lot, I bought a landy anyway'.
kthnxbye.

[Tins]

Mods please change title of thread from 'who's owned an XR6' to 'bugger you lot, I bought a landy anyway'.
kthnxbye.

Lol, you might have a point, Mitch.

Darn this "New Posts" thingy.

[rangieman]

Mods please change title of thread from 'who's owned an XR6' to 'bugger you lot, I bought a landy anyway'.
kthnxbye.
Sorry mate the rules are:ttiwwp:It also did not happen with out pic`s[bigwhistle]:bat:

[Disco Muppet]

'To rust or not to rust; corrosion issues in BA/BF falcons and comparison of mechanics experiences while considering production values and online forum opinions'
Think I found my thesis

[V8Ian]

'To rust or not to rust; corrosion issues in BA/BF falcons and comparison of mechanics experiences while considering production values and online forum opinions'
Think I found my thesis
Never mind finding your thesis, find your bloomin' camera.

[Toxic_Avenger]

More like "The role of cognitive bias in online urination contests between Homo sapien spanner jockeys - a systematic review"

[Disco Muppet]

'I'll believe it when... a study of image-denied skepticism'

[pop058]

More like "The role of cognitive bias in online urination contests between Homo sapien spanner jockeys - a systematic review"


'I'll believe it when... a study of image-denied skepticism'

Wwwaaaayyyyy too deep for me [tonguewink]

[Toxic_Avenger]

Pics of chawton white LR not loading.
Are they working for anyone else?!

[V8Ian]

123456
Yep, white's working for me. [biggrin]

[cuppabillytea]

At this point I think the Dunnydoor and Commode aficionados should be congratulated for not taking the bate, as is their usual want.

[BigJon]

Sorry, but calling yourself a mechanic lends no weight to your position. I, too, am a qualified mech. I choose not to work in that field anymore, but my opinion is worth as much as yours. I prefer to talk to the panel trade when it comes to rust. I'm just not hearing it. Ford have built well over 100,000 of the things, not including Territory, and yet a simple Google of "BA Falcon rust" turns up very few hits, top of the list being a forum thread based in 2005/6.

I see "plenty of talk" about the unreliability of Land Rovers on the forums I frequent. So what? As I said, I'm not interested in hearsay. Documented evidence is needed. If the BA was as bad as this thread suggests, Ford would have issued a recall. Any occurrence of structural rust in the first seven years since production would have assured it, as the Govt. demands it.

I repeat my opinion. The most likely cause of rust in any car built since the mid 90s is poor accident damage repair. Even in Alfa Romeos. If there is any evidence around that undamaged Fords are rusting, present it to Ford. I'll bet you get an answer.

I am not "calling myself a mechanic". I AM a mechanic, self employed. I see these vehicles day in, day out. I see the rust under the bonnet, around the boot opening, etc. You are entitled to an opinion, but having an opinion doesn't mean you are correct., but mine is backed up with first hand experience. Not hearsay.
The panel trade may well not see much Falcon / Territory rust because most panel beaters don't do much in the way of rust repairs these days. And quite possibly the owners of these less than prestige vehicles know that fixing the rust would be a waste of time and money.

I agree that for the majority of vehicle built since the 90s rust is not an issue. Unfortunately the Aussie built Ford products don't fall into that category.

[Disco Muppet]

I suppose now that I've paid for it I can show you what I bought [emoji14]https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/05/264.jpg

[V8Ian]

What's the plan, engine swap?

[Disco Muppet]

Nope. Had the same failure as mine did. JC and Paul have replaced the bottom end, and cleaned the top end up. It's got an HD flex plate, new turbo and fuel reg, near new fuel pump, mapped ecu, and apparently it doesn't leak!
So it will take over main duties. The blue one will probably have a couple of things removed and then fixed up and possibly go to dad. Or I'll do something really silly with it [emoji83][emoji48]

[Eevo]

Or I'll do something really silly with it [emoji83][emoji48]
give it to me. ive got some ideas.
bmw v12...

[rangieman]

I suppose now that I've paid for it I can show you what I bought [emoji14]https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/05/264.jpg
About bloody time i was thinking you had turned into the Phantom Muppet[wink11]
Oh nice one mate[thumbsupbig]

[cuppabillytea]

I saw a V8 Cat shoehorned into an F250 once. All the ducting was made of stretched and welded aluminium to fit the available remaining space. Under the bonnet looked like a second bonnet with lines all over it. Outside the truck looked standard apart from the huge exhausts. Could be a bit surprising at the lights. [bigwhistle]

[V8Ian]

I saw a V8 Cat shoehorned into an F250 once. All the ducting was made of stretched and welded aluminium to fit the available remaining space. Under the bonnet looked like a second bonnet with lines all over it. Outside the truck looked standard apart from the huge exhausts. Could be a bit surprising at the lights. [bigwhistle]
3208?

[cuppabillytea]

3208?

I can't remember Ian, It was some time ago.

[rangieman]

3208?
The turbo version was much better 250hp[thumbsupbig]

[cuppabillytea]

I don't even remember if it was Turbo either.

Anyway,, Congratulations on your new Land Rover Muppet. You and Ms Muppet should look right proud and handsome in such a fine specimen.

[Disco Muppet]

Thanks guys. Made more sense. It's being referred to as New Brian for now (family guy joke).

[V8Ian]

I must say young Muppet, you've displayed remarkably mature and exquisite taste. [bigwhistle]

[justinc]

....and it has a LOT less on the odometer than yours muppet😎.

It should serve you well... at least it is white... like a wedding car should be...😅

[Disco Muppet]

Hmm, yes. You can bring that suggestion up with Katherine [emoji23]
However she and my father have stated that the blue one should be kept and revived at some point. Apparently I 'owe it that much' for getting me home safely. I think Dad wants it! [emoji23]

[cuppabillytea]

I'll thank it too for not making us tow it.

"Brian"? Hmmmm.Yep it works for me.