Flag Poles?

[jonesfam]

Does anybody know how much a Flag Pole costs?

I'm thinking of putting a couple of flags out the front of the Roadhouse, 1 X Australian Flag, 1 X Aboriginal Flag.
(Maybe 1 X Chinese the way the world & IanV8 is going).

I have Googled but don't see any prices listed.

BTW Are the a mission to install?

Jonesfam

[Toxic_Avenger]

Uh, concrete, 2 bits of sturdy C channel, a pole of chosen length, and 2x pin / bolt for pivot.
Bonus points:
Pulley, rope, a hole for the internal rope to come out of and a cleat for keeping the flag 'up'.
Extra bonus points:
Paint for patriotism.

[V8Ian]

You could be making a rod for your own back, ( [bigrolf] great pun) there are protocols to observe when flying the National Flag.

Australian National Flag protocols | Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet (https://www.dpmc.gov.au/government/australian-national-flag/australian-national-flag-protocols)

[bob10]

Australian flags can be obtained free of charge through the Constituents’ Request Programme by contacting the electorate office of your local Senator or Member of the House of Representatives. There are rules, in your situation I think just make sure you have two poles, the Aust. flag flies on the left pole facing the building. More info here.

https://www.dpmc.gov.au/sites/default/files/publications/australian-flags-excerpt.pdf

[hodgo]

As I said good on you The lay out of my property does not allow me to fly a flag ( Battle axe block ) but please apply all the protocol that goes with flying our flag, which means you respect the flag and what it stands for.

Hodgo an old soldier that loves this brown country and its flag

[mick88]

You will need three poles!
Don't forget the "Green Oval" flag!

Cheers, Mick.

[ramblingboy42]

or one pole with a "cross tree"....I think that's what it is called. No doubt there is a special name for it.

[jonesfam]

Yes, I am aware of all the Flag protocols, for some reason I learnt all that at school.

My mate was anal about it.

I might see if my tame "Chippies" can make me a couple of flag poles.
We have a fair bit of different pieces of steel around the place left over from various building projects.

If & when we get it done I will post a pic.

Jonesfam

PS A Green Oval flag would loose me customers, Tojos are more common than the proverbial around here!

[hodgo]

Yes, I am aware of all the Flag protocols, for some reason I learnt all that at school.

My mate was anal about it.

I might see if my tame "Chippies" can make me a couple of flag poles.
We have a fair bit of different pieces of steel around the place left over from various building projects.

If & when we get it done I will post a pic.

Jonesfam

PS A Green Oval flag would loose me customers, Tojos are more common than the proverbial around here!


Don't forget if its going to be left up over night it has to be flood lit

[87County]

or one pole with a "cross tree"....I think that's what it is called. No doubt there is a special name for it.

Crosstree is fine rambles, aka Yardarm

(just have to keep precedence in mind :) )

[87County]

When I was young :) .... the current national blue ensign was reserved for government use and the red ensign was the flag to be used by civilians. The red ensign was also the Australian Army flag more or less from Federation to about 1954. I believe all was changed by Bob Menzies.

Maybe I'm just being nostalgic but I still find the red ensign an attractive flag and I notice that fabric printed copies are readily available on eBay - it is mostly used by boaties now.

[Eevo]

dont forget to get council building approval.

[pop058]

dont forget to get council building approval.

Building act states no approval required if under a certain height. IIRC, 10 or 12 mts from ground and something less if on a building.

[Eevo]

Building act states no approval required if under a certain height. IIRC, 10 or 12 mts from ground and something less if on a building.

was in the news a few months ago. a guy was taken to court by the council for not taking down his 3m flagpole after he built it without council permission.

[pop058]

was in the news a few months ago. a guy was taken to court by the council for not taking down his 3m flagpole after he built it without council permission.

Fair enough. Could be an SA thing but council has discresion in Qld. Quote from "standard Building Laws (Qld)"




Local government may dispense with necessity to lodge drawings etc. or to obtain approval in some cases.

2.3. Despite anything to the contrary in this Part, the local government may dispense with the necessity—
(a) to lodge drawings, specifications and a plan in relation to, or

(b) to obtain its approval to the carrying out of building work connected with any of the following Class 10 buildings or other structures—

(i)
(ii)
(iii) a non-load-bearing aerial, antenna, flagpole, mast or tower, which is detached from a building or other structure and is
not more than 10 m in height or which is attached to a building or other structure and is not more than 2.5 m in height.



snipped out some irrelevant stuff.

[Eevo]

Fair enough. Could be an SA thing but council has discresion in Qld. Quote from "standard Building Laws (Qld)"



snipped out some irrelevant stuff.


the news case wasnt SA. i think it was QLD but not sure.

[Eevo]

NT: No Cookies | NT News (http://www.ntnews.com.au/news/northern-territory/couple-told-to-take-down-australian-flag-because-of-current-political-climate/news-story/8e3d048008ad66de9ee37ef26b449e87)

“Paul and Julie failed to apply to the body corporate for permission to erect a structure, no application has been made.”
WA: Elderly Baldivis couple 'dumbstruck' after being told to pull down flag pole (http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/elderly-baldivis-couple-dumbstruck-after-being-told-to-pull-down-flag-pole-20160204-gmljhl.html)

An elderly Baldivis couple are "dumbstruck" Rockingham council has told them to pull down their flag pole because the pensioners didn't get planning approval.
QLD: Controversial Logan flagpole decision overruled - ABC Queensland - Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) (http://blogs.abc.net.au/queensland/2008/10/controversial-l.html)

When a former soldier flies a flag outside his home, that last thing you expect is for council to instruct the digger to remove it.That's what Logan City Council reportedly told Aaron Wilson of Eagleby, claiming that a neighbour has complained the flag was "offensive".
Council also cited height and safety concerns over the flag pole.

[donh54]

Don't make the yardarm too high - it'll take too long for the sun to get over it 😎

[Eevo]

Don't make the yardarm too high - it'll take too long for the sun to get over it 😎
haha.
i've not heard that in years!

[jonesfam]

Don't make the yardarm too high - it'll take too long for the sun to get over it 😎

Doesn't really matter how long it takes in Doomadgee.
Lite beer only!

I'm sure as the sun goes over the yardarm I will watch, shake my head & go and make a strong coffee.[bigsad]

Jonesfam
PS I'm not really a beer drinker.

[DiscoMick]

Ebay is your friend:
Flag Pole | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/b/Flag-Pole/39642/bn_55199677)

[carjunkieanon]

Does the Green Oval flag go higher or lower than the Australian Flag?

[NavyDiver]

When I was young :) .... the current national blue ensign was reserved for government use and the red ensign was the flag to be used by civilians. The red ensign was also the Australian Army flag more or less from Federation to about 1954. I believe all was changed by Bob Menzies.

Maybe I'm just being nostalgic but I still find the red ensign an attractive flag and I notice that fabric printed copies are readily available on eBay - it is mostly used by boaties now.
White ensign- Royal Australian Navy
Red ensign- merchant navy
Australian flag for the rest

:)

[NavyDiver]

From 1901 to 1954 the Red Ensign was used as the national flag by State and local governments, private organizations and individuals.

In 1941, Prime Minister Robert Menzies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Menzies) stated that there should be no restrictions on private citizens using the Blue Ensign on land and, in 1947, Prime Minister Ben Chifley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Chifley) reaffirmed this position but it wasn't until the passage of the Flags Act 1953 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_Act_1953) that the restriction on civilians flying the Blue Ensign was lifted after which use of the Red Ensign on land became a rarity.
Since 2008, 3 September has been officially commemorated as both Australian National Flag/Merchant Navy Day which allows the Australian red ensign to be flown on land for the occasion as a matter of protocol

All according to wiki


(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Red_Ensign)Australian White Ensign | Royal Australian Navy (http://www.navy.gov.au/history/tradition/australian-white-ensign)