Guessing Game Mk III : What Engineering Marvel is this.?

[JDNSW]

The picture is vaguely familiar - I'm guessing WW2, secret code breaking effort or possibly other primitive computing machinery developed during hostilities?

[101 Ron]

Colossus computer at Bletchley Park




Correct


The Colossus was the worlds first programable computer.
It was years ahead of its time.
Because it was so far advanced and it was used for breaking high level German WW2 codes, it was kept secret until the 1980s.
The technology was improved after the war and its all hush hush after that.
The codes it broke were not Enigma codes but a teletype Ultra hard to break codes called fish using Modulo 2 mathematics'.....Hitler high level stuff.......this machine helped to shorten the war and saved lives,.

The machine used radio valves and very high speed paper tape and advanced tele type/phone technology.

[p38arover]

I have one of these but a different brand.

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[trout1105]

Enigma

[101 Ron]

I have one of these but a different brand.

126286

It is a tool used to put rubber bands around the nuts of sheep so they drop off.

[Old Farang]

It is a tool used to put rubber bands around the nuts of sheep so they drop off.
If that is what it is, it is called an "Elastrator". [bigsad]

[Tins]

If that is what it is, it is called an "Elastrator". [bigsad]

Eye watering.

[trout1105]

I am pretty sure it isn't an elastrator they look more like a pair of plyers and have 4x prongs the "Ring" sits on.

[Sitec]

I am pretty sure it isn't an elastrator they look more like a pair of plyers and have 4x prongs the "Ring" sits on.

Know the ones you mean, but having looked at the workings of the one pictured, its a 3 prong version, so in theory should do the same job...

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[p38arover]

Sorry, that's not it.

[Ancient Mariner]

Looks like a piston ring expander


AM

[p38arover]

Sorry, Noel, not a piston ring expander.

[bee utey]

Gizmo for placing cable marking rings, aka a three pronged expander.

[101 Ron]

Three prong pliers for expanding seleeves and grommets.
Heavy duty versions can expand plastic and light metal tubing

[p38arover]

Yes, used for placing rubber sleeves over the end of cables before we had heat shrink. Mine are Heinemann brand and we used to call them "honeymoon pliers". [bigwhistle]

BU or Ron to take the helm now.

[101 Ron]

I have something at work I need to take a picture of and then post it.
I cannot do that until knock off time tomorrow.

[rovers4]

I'll say "honeymoon pliers", or insulation pliers used for putting rubber sleeving over wiring as it enters soldered terminals. The fore-runner of heatshrink tubing. The sleeving came in several sizes and all the usual colours.

[bee utey]

I personally don't own anything that could be considered an engineering marvel, otherwise I would have found it on the scrap metal cleaning up day. However I had a quick look for marvels on the intertoobs and found something that should last about a minute before being identified...

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[rick130]

It's a type of lock (sp?) but instead of draining the lock and lowering the vessel to a lower river level, this one does it mechanically

[Sitec]

I personally don't own anything that could be considered an engineering marvel, otherwise I would have found it on the scrap metal cleaning up day. However I had a quick look for marvels on the intertoobs and found something that should last about a minute before being identified...

126302

The Falkirk Wheel.. An awesome thing to look at. If ever you are over there, it's worth heading north for! :)

[bee utey]

Falkirk Wheel it is, of course.

[cuppabillytea]

Brings new meaning to the term, "Argy Bargy."

[Fifth Columnist]

Made by Power Samas (ICT)?

[101 Ron]

OK I found something at work.
It was given to me and took me a while to figure out what it is for.
The photo is slightly out of focus and I have purposely left it that way because you blokes are too good at figuring this stuff out.
The only cue is
You hope you never have to use it.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/502.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VANJxP)DSCN0800 (https://flic.kr/p/VANJxP) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr

Ron

[POD]

I believe that is a tool for removing a broken tap; the prongs slide down into the tap flutes and the square drive is used to screw it out.

[cuppabillytea]

It was always; throw job away start again for me.
Never knew that marvel existed.

[The ho har's]

Ron's picture has disappeared now, it was there before.

Mrs hh

[101 Ron]

I believe that is a tool for removing a broken tap; the prongs slide down into the tap flutes and the square drive is used to screw it out.
correct answer....your go
here is another pic with the prongs extended to twist out a broken tap.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/504.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VANJyk)DSCN0801 (https://flic.kr/p/VANJyk) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr


Ron

[p38arover]

Ron's picture has disappeared now, it was there before.

I can see it/them.

[rick130]

It was always; throw job away start again for me.
Never knew that marvel existed.
I've only done it once where I couldn't get it out. It was about thirty years ago.
The part was too exxy to scrap, so off it went to an engineering shop with a spark eroder.

[Chops]

correct answer....your go
here is another pic with the prongs extended to twist out a broken tap.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/504.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VANJyk)DSCN0801 (https://flic.kr/p/VANJyk) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr


Ron


Are they only only for larger taps? I've not seen one before either,, could be a handy little accessory to have [bigwhistle]

[101 Ron]

Are they only only for larger taps? I've not seen one before either,, could be a handy little accessory to have [bigwhistle]

Comes in a set with many different sizes big and small.
The problem is the set I have is they are designed for taps with 4 flutes and I have a lot of taps with 3 flutes.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/507.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/VyHrC9)DSCN0807 (https://flic.kr/p/VyHrC9) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr

[cuppabillytea]

I've only done it once where I couldn't get it out. It was about thirty years ago.
The part was too exxy to scrap, so off it went to an engineering shop with a spark eroder.
I was being a bit hyperbolic then. It's only happened once to me too. I ground and bent the jaws of my old long nose pliers to fit and It came out easily. Should have borrowed the pliers, Then I could ave told the lender he owed me a Schooner for the new tool.

[p38arover]

Billy, maybe the previously shown honeymoon pliers could have been used. [bigrolf]

[Ancient Mariner]

Tap removal tools are like easy outs ,only work if the bolt or tap is loose[bigsad] otherwise as Rick said Spark eroder



AM

[cuppabillytea]

Billy, maybe the previously shown honeymoon pliers could have been used. [bigrolf]
:lol: I started my Apprenticeship in 1971. Dilating fluid was already in use, so Although I had seen Honeymoon Pliers I only handled them to move them out of the way. That's a bit sad when you think about it. [bigsad][bigwhistle]

[POD]

Sorry all, I posted the answer to the mystery device when I got home from my nightshift, went to bed, got up and went to work again, effectively killing this thread for 24 hours which is pretty much what nightshift does to me too.[bawl]
Just got home and about to go to bed again so here's a quick one, it will be easily recognisable to some but I want a certain specific detail in the answer.

[Ancient Mariner]

Sorry all, I posted the answer to the mystery device when I got home from my nightshift, went to bed, got up and went to work again, effectively killing this thread for 24 hours which is pretty much what nightshift does to me too.[bawl]
Just got home and about to go to bed again so here's a quick one, it will be easily recognisable to some but I want a certain specific detail in the answer.
Dividing Head What details center height ,gearing for auto indexing number of divisions[bighmmm]

[Chops]

Dividing Head What details center height ,gearing for auto indexing number of divisions[bighmmm]


Missed it by thaaaat much,,

Not that it would have done me any good 😊 I forgot what it was called [bigwhistle]

[Ancient Mariner]

Missed it by thaaaat much,,

Not that it would have done me any good 😊 I forgot what it was called [bigwhistle]
May be he is after PTO type as the gear quadrant is fitted :o


AM

[cuppabillytea]

What does it divide?

[101 Ron]

That dividing head is set up with a gear drive from the table of a small milling machine.
that would be to enable the milling of something like a rifle barrel , or a course multi start thread on a tube or similar.

[Ancient Mariner]

What does it divide?

Also called an indexing head as it indexes the work to the number of splines ,gear teeth , and if geared to the table feed can be used to do things wich involves calculations I am not capable of[bigsad]

[cuppabillytea]

Neither am I apparently. They never let me play with one.

[POD]

Ok I'm awake again and the coffee is starting to take effect...
I knew that anyone who has been near a milling machine would have identified it as a dividing head without any difficulty, but there is a name for this type of dividing head that no-one has come up with. To keep things moving along I'll give it to Ron as he gave the most correct detail earliest.
This is a 'Universal' dividing head which is a cunningly contrived piece of kit from the pre-electronic era, this one was made in Italy in the 1960s but patented sometime in the 20s I think.


An explanation for the curious (skip this unless you are as curious as I am about how stuff works)

A workpiece (piece of metal being machined, for example a gear blank) is held either in the lathe-type chuck or, with the chuck removed, some other form of workholding, and turned by one of 4 different methods to rotate the workpiece by a specific fraction of a turn, for example if you were cutting a 36-tooth gear you would want to cut one tooth and then turn the piece 1/36th of a turn to cut the next tooth.
You can see just behind the chuck in the first photo there is a plate with a number of slots in it, this is the mechanism for 'Direct Indexing'; the chuck freewheels and the little yellow knob is used to engage a little pawl in one of the slots. The plate has 12 slots on one side or can be flipped over and has 16 slots on the other side. The plate can be swapped out for another with different numbers of slots in it, but obviously there are limitations to how many slots can be made in the plate deep enough to hold the thing still. I think 16 slots is the most on this one. This method is useful for simple things like making 6 flat sides on a bolt head etc but not much more than that.

For a wider range of numbers, the second photo shows the mechanism for 'Indirect indexing', the round plate has several circles of holes and a crank handle that has a pin that engages with the holes; the crank handle turns the chuck via a 40:1 worm gear. The operator makes the crank longer or shorter to select which hole circle is used. For example, a particular number of gear teeth when divided by the 40:1 gear ratio might work out to 17/27ths of a turn of the crank. The operator would move the pin to the 27-hole circle and rotate the crank by 17 holes for each tooth. The yellow fingers that look like clock hands can be set to mark the gap between the 17 holes on the plate, so the crank is rotated from one hand to the next.

The next bit is where it gets really clever; prime numbers cannot be broken down to an exact fraction so even the indirect dividing business won't get the division accurately. A 127-tooth gear for example. The method that is used for this is called 'Compound indexing' and this is where the gear train on the back of the dividing head comes in. The third photo shows the gear arrangement on the back of the gadget. As the crank is rotated, the spindle turns and the shaft coming out the back end of the chuck rotates with it; this then drives a set of gears that rotate the hole plate itself. So, you might use the 27-hole circle and rotate the handle by 17 holes, but the 17th hole will have moved by a certain amount and will be in a different place from where it started. By changing the gears and changing the hole circle that is used, this can rotate the workpiece by any required number of divisions including prime numbers.

I would have showed a video link rather than the above explanation but I have never yet found a video that shows compound indexing; it seems to be a lost art. If I ever finish restoring this thing (lots of bits were missing when i acquired it) I might make a video myself.

The other thing that this device can be used for, as Ron said, is the gear train can be driven off the table of a universal milling machine and can make the workpiece rotate as it goes past the cutter. This is how helical gears are cut (or any other helical feature). This is called 'spiral milling' and requires a universal milling machine, where the table of the machine can be set to a specific angle. The calculations involved are mind-boggling and even reading the tables that have the calculations already made gets my head swimming.

An 'Indexing head' or 'Spin Indexer' is a relatively simple device that can do 'Direct Indexing' only.
A 'Semi-Universal Dividing Head' has the hole plate and crank but not the gear train, so can do Indirect Indexing only.
The device in the photo is a Universal Dividing Head and I reckon it's design is just as clever as the Falkirk Wheel, if less impressive to look at.

In these photos, the universal dividing head is mounted on a metal shaper (another obsolete bit of kit) for cutting internal splines etc.

[101 Ron]

Ok I am still at work and ratted around a bit and found this.

What is it.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/516.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WBMfXq)[url=https://

Ron

[POD]

Spoiler alert!! Clicking on that photo opens up a gallery which includes photos of the box and instructions for it.

[101 Ron]

I just tried to fix that....I hope
Computers and on site hosting is not my thing.
please don't cheat.

[ramblingboy42]

aahhh POD , interesting that you talk about the indexing head being used on a milling machine , then you show it on a shaper.

[POD]

aahhh POD , interesting that you talk about the indexing head being used on a milling machine , then you show it on a shaper.

Ha yes, just that the photos I happened to have on hand had the thing on the shaper.

BTW Ron, I'm lusting after that compact radial-arm drill in your photo album.

[Ancient Mariner]

Ha yes, just that the photos I happened to have on hand had the thing on the shaper.

BTW Ron, I'm lusting after that compact radial-arm drill in your photo album.
Would like to see the gear train on the shaper doing a planetary gear:Rolling:



Just for RB

[101 Ron]

It was made in the 1930s by my grandfather.
He did the patterns,the casting and machining from scratch himself.
No money during the depression.
He made a vertical mill and alot of other stuff.
He went on the make the band saw machines for the Musqutio plywood planes of WW2 in Australia.
He made turbular knitting machines for a living for many years.......Again patterns,casting,case hardening,machining ,even screw and bolt cutting all in his small workshop.
If you blokes are interested I can post pics tomorrow.

[Ancient Mariner]

Looks like a clamp for slotted table and I would like any pics any of the old blokes gadjets

Thanks
AM

[101 Ron]

No its to do with automotive.

[101 Ron]

My Grandfathers business closed in the late 1960s and most of his stuff got sold off, but some of his knitting machines are still in use.
Japanese knitting machine imports and the first computer controlled machines stopped manufacturing.
Also all the sons went different ways as my Grandfather was a hard man to work for.
He was a great machinest , but a poor business man.
He would build a knitting machine to a customer's requirements and personally set the machine up on site and hope he would get paid .

[POD]

Would like to see the gear train on the shaper doing a planetary gear:Rolling:



Just for RB

The gear train would be the same as any other setup for the given number of teeth, but the cutting tool would be working inside the blank instead of outside.
Unless you wanted a helical planetary gear- now that would be a challenge.[biggrin]

Ron photos of your dad's creations would be great. Especially some detail on the drill and mill.

[101 Ron]

Ok I am still at work and ratted around a bit and found this.

What is it.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/516.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WBMfXq)



I though this would have been easy..............It looks like POD was the only one who had seen the answer .
Another clue..........Automotive tool mostly not used now.
It could save alot of money and time.

[101 Ron]

Would still fit about 90% of light automotive vehicles today.
Tends to be thought of as DIY device..

[101 Ron]

Research shows me extremely large modern versions of this device is in use on ships to save costs.
People used to pay to have some one use this device at home garage or small workshop as a last ditch repair to save big money.

[POD]

I would not have known what this was in a hundred years without seeing the other photos.

[101 Ron]

I will post another photo in the morning showing what it could be more clearly when I get to work and take some happy snaps of some of Grandads made from scratch stuff.
This mob usually figure it out in two minutes.
Ron

[Homestar]

Complete guess - is it a valve spring compressor tool of some description?

[101 Ron]

No
Nothing to do with valves.

[cuppabillytea]

Is it part of a bearing puller or ball joint splitter?

[Fifth Columnist]

a bearing puller/pusher?

[trout1105]

Some sort of panel beaters tool ?

[101 Ron]

Nothing to do with pushing or pulling bearings.
Nothing to do with panel beating.
This other picture should make it a lot easier.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/537.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WU8vPr)DSCN0354 (https://flic.kr/p/WU8vPr) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr

There are some other small bits and pieces that goes with it.
The main part of it is there.

[101 Ron]

With most missing bits.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/536.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WiHmK1)DSCN0368 (https://flic.kr/p/WiHmK1) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr

[101 Ron]

Gran dads machines
The radial arm drill is in daily use.
Work safe made me place guards over the workings and gear box.
It is Two speed( plus multi vee belt pulley speeds) with a long quill stroke and can be swung around out wards and drill stuff straight from the floor.
I have seen this machine successfully bore out engine blocks using a fly cutter with the arms all locked up.
I have drilled 1 1/2 inch holes with it using tapered shank drill bits.
The wooden cabinet it sits on was also made by grandad.....remember he made the patterns for the castings.....so a cabinet would have been easy.
Be side it is a bench drill press(also in daily use), again patterns and casting, machining , metal hardening all done in house in the 1930s.
Most of the screws and bolts used were made in a turret lathe.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/538.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WQtZML)DSCN0359 (https://flic.kr/p/WQtZML) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/539.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WQtZNs)DSCN0360 (https://flic.kr/p/WQtZNs) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/540.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WQtZNY)DSCN0361 (https://flic.kr/p/WQtZNY) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/541.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WQtZPE)DSCN0362 (https://flic.kr/p/WQtZPE) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr

[101 Ron]

The Yellow pedestal drill is another creation......not in use now....I have plenty of drill presses.
the Two pics of the smaller green drill press was a bench top one designed to do fine and small work.
The bearings work straight in the casting.......cast iron is suppose to be a better bearing than bronze.
That little machine has had much use over the years and the platform for it has many drill holes in it showing that, but the bearings are still wear free.
It was unusual in that the second Vee belt used in the drive of it was twisted though 90 degrees........it worked well...........I think some of this stuff was originally designed to work with overhead flat belts.
The vertical mill used the stand casting from his knitting machines.
It was set up to cut key ways........this machine is wear free and still gets used about twice a year.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/542.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WQtZQm)DSCN0363 (https://flic.kr/p/WQtZQm) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/543.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WQtZQw)DSCN0364 (https://flic.kr/p/WQtZQw) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/544.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WiLqPC)DSCN0365 (https://flic.kr/p/WiLqPC) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/545.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WiLqQj)DSCN0366 (https://flic.kr/p/WiLqQj) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/546.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WiLqQQ)DSCN0367 (https://flic.kr/p/WiLqQQ) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr

[101 Ron]

With most missing bits.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/536.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WiHmK1)DSCN0368 (https://flic.kr/p/WiHmK1) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr

It has something to do with bearings?????????????????????????????????

[p38arover]

Is it something to hold a crankshaft up while the main bearings are removed for servicing?

Also, is your name John or Ron?

[101 Ron]

So, is your name John or Ron?

I answer to a lot of stuff, but Ron works.
John Smith is handy when you don't want to chased on the internet.

[101 Ron]

[QUOTE=p38arover;2697834]Is it something to hold a crankshaft up while the main bearings are removed for servicing?

getting closer.
More bearing related..........doesn't hold up a crank, or push or pull a bearing.
It saves a lot of money.

[cuppabillytea]

So poor old John Smith gets chased instead. All, 100,000,000 of them.

Is it an adjustable shaft locator?

[Ancient Mariner]

To do with pouring white metal bearings?

[101 Ron]

To do with pouring white metal bearings?

Not pouring bearings.
crankshaft /bearing related.
It doesn't hold anything up..........but is bolted to a important existing engine part.
I gotta go back to work now.
If no one gets it by knock of time I will post the picture and instructions from the box saying how it is used.
Its an old idea and one which can be used on modern engines as well as a older engines.
It is interesting the idea is still used on ships as when a big diesel engine is fitted to a ship, it is not coming out again if something bearing wise goes wrong.

[Chops]

I'm thinking that looks like a honing stone in the middle there, so I'm guessing it's to do with refurbishing journals.

[cuppabillytea]

Well I'm thinking It's not stone but white metal and it's a temporary bearing cap.

[101 Ron]

Well I'm thinking It's not stone but white metal and it's a temporary bearing cap.
Can be a stone but in this case it is a very fine file, like the files used on the head of a Neway valve seat cutters.
Can be fitted with emery cloth of different grades.
very close my friend.

[cuppabillytea]

Can be a stone but in this case it is a very fine file, like the files used on the head of a Neway valve seat cutters.
Can be fitted with emery cloth of different grades.
very close my friend.

In that case I think Chops might have been closer.

[101 Ron]

I'm thinking that looks like a honing stone in the middle there, so I'm guessing it's to do with refurbishing journals.
Sorry Chops I didn't see your post until now.
yes its a in vehicle big end journal machining tool.
Much sort after by people who know about them.
Saves you from pulling out the motor to grind the crank to the next under size.
You fit the adjustable and temporary big end cap with the fine cutter to a conrod and adjust it up.
Turn over the engine starter with the sparkplugs out and the file takes off the high spots and if you adjust and turn over the motor enough down to the next undersize.

[101 Ron]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/550.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WDeQmS)DSCN0352 (https://flic.kr/p/WDeQmS) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/551.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WDeQn3)DSCN0353 (https://flic.kr/p/WDeQn3) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/552.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WDeQno)DSCN0355 (https://flic.kr/p/WDeQno) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/553.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WDeQnU)DSCN0357 (https://flic.kr/p/WDeQnU) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr

[101 Ron]

What normally happens with the above tool is its usually employed only to do one journal after a big end bearing failure so you buy Two big end bearing sets and on a four cylinder motor, fit 3 standard size and one 10 thou under size on the crook journal......now finished in good condition to under size.
So if you ever pull a part big end bearings and find them different sizes, this tool has been used.
Big versions are used on ships engines as the engine is usually fitted for the life of the ship and you just cannot pull out a crankshaft to machine it.

[POD]

Ron when you get sick of that bulky old drill cluttering up your shed I would be prepared to get rid of it for you at minimal cost to yourself....

[101 Ron]

Ron when you get sick of that bulky old drill cluttering up your shed I would be prepared to get rid of it for you at minimal cost to yourself....
It is still earning its keep and will be staying here [biggrin][biggrin][biggrin]

[Chops]

Carry on someone,, I'm a bit tied up today with roadworthy stuff [smilebigeye]

[350RRC]

What normally happens with the above tool is its usually employed only to do one journal after a big end bearing failure so you buy Two big end bearing sets and on a four cylinder motor, fit 3 standard size and one 10 thou under size on the crook journal......now finished in good condition to under size.
So if you ever pull a part big end bearings and find them different sizes, this tool has been used.
Big versions are used on ships engines as the engine is usually fitted for the life of the ship and you just cannot pull out a crankshaft to machine it.

Couldn't you do the main crank journals on some engines with this marvel too?

DL

[The ho har's]

Ron's posts have been very informative, well done to your granddad, Ron he was an impressive tool maker.

Now where is the next engineering marvel?

Mrs hh

[cuppabillytea]

Ron's posts have been very informative, well done to your granddad, Ron he was an impressive tool maker.

Now where is the next engineering marvel?

Mrs hh

We have to wait for Marcus to get back from lunch. That could take quite a while Mrs HH.

[Ancient Mariner]

I know what it is ,The bit with the taper would be to center the holder wich would be bolted down .The reamer would be used to recut seat .The black things are delrin? same OD as the cutter .Uses I don't know injector seats? steam? water valves? no prize but would like to know Delrin bits part of ? The bit with the holes is handle for reamer shaft


AM

[cuppabillytea]

We have to wait for Marcus to get back from lunch. That could take quite a while Mrs HH.
Bump ( sorry Ian but Love that terminology)

Chops appears to be so engrossed in Blowsie and enthralled with Wombat that he has forgotten he owes us a BLOODY MARVEL!!!!!!!!!:rulez::bat::bat::bat:

[Toxic_Avenger]

Here's something to whet the appetite.

Found this. I'm not exactly sure why it's used, but I know what I does. I'll accept the same rigor for the winning response.

Should be a quick one before chops comes back with a marvel in a week or so! [bigwhistle]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/750.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/751.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/752.jpg

[Fifth Columnist]

Locking wheel nut remover?

[Toxic_Avenger]

Locking wheel nut remover?

Negative.

[austastar]

Hi
Filter removal socket?
Cheers

[Toxic_Avenger]

Unfortunately not for filters.

[POD]

The bottom part looks like it might fit over a gate valve handle, perhaps so a speed brace can be used on it?

[Toxic_Avenger]

The bottom part looks like it might fit over a gate valve handle, perhaps so a speed brace can be used on it?

I'll pay that.
It's a valve tool for gas cylinder valves.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/759.jpg

Probably used to torque up the valves to a correct value after filling. 3/8 drive hole in the top of it, with grub screw.
Cast in Australia too!

[cuppabillytea]

Whatever happened to the simple old "C" spanner?

[EDIT] I suppose the why is that sometimes Gas valves need to be turned off from a safe distance, or behind a mist spray.:firedevil:

[rick130]

Probably used to torque up the valves to a correct value after filling. 3/8 drive hole in the top of it, with grub screw.
Cast in Australia too!

God I wish a tension wrench was used on some of our refrigerant bottles.
Trying to open the valve sometimes on a fresh bottle is damned near impossible.

Some people have no idea of the difference between closed and closed so seriously ****ing tight that an atom of helium couldn't pass under the blast pressure of a nuclear explosion!

[Chops]

God I wish a tension wrench was used on some of our refrigerant bottles.
Trying to open the valve sometimes on a fresh bottle is damned near impossible.

Some people have no idea of the difference between closed and closed so seriously ****ing tight that an atom of helium couldn't pass under the blast pressure of a nuclear explosion!


Get this on fork lift gas bottles too 😡

[Fifth Columnist]

.....or food jars from supermarkets (according to my wife)

[tact]

[...] I suppose the why is that sometimes Gas valves need to be turned off from a safe distance, or behind a mist spray.:firedevil:

Enjoyed practising just that a number of times during a firefighting course to prep for fire team duties during my stint with antdiv down south

[Toxic_Avenger]

Get this on fork lift gas bottles too 😡

It's surprising how many people turn the valve on, then continue to wind it out ALL THE FREAKING WAY. If something goes wrong, and you need to cut the gas quick, I sure as hell wouldn't want to have my hand near the catastrophe for the 10 turns it takes to shut it off.
Turn it on, then another 1/4 turn is fine. You don't gain 100HP by having it open all the way.
:soapbox:

[Tins]

It's surprising how many people turn the valve on, then continue to wind it out ALL THE FREAKING WAY. If something goes wrong, and you need to cut the gas quick, I sure as hell wouldn't want to have my hand near the catastrophe for the 10 turns it takes to shut it off.
Turn it on, then another 1/4 turn is fine. You don't gain 100HP by having it open all the way.
:soapbox:

Tell that to my SWMBO. Hot water taps don't work unless they are fully open. But then, she believes that there is a secret device inside packaging that make things go off as soon as the date on the label is reached.

[rick130]

It's surprising how many people turn the valve on, then continue to wind it out ALL THE FREAKING WAY. If something goes wrong, and you need to cut the gas quick, I sure as hell wouldn't want to have my hand near the catastrophe for the 10 turns it takes to shut it off.
Turn it on, then another 1/4 turn is fine. You don't gain 100HP by having it open all the way.
:soapbox:

That's exactly what I tell the young fella's regarding oxy/acetylene and nitrogen too.

Just open it enough to get pressure for exactly the reason you said.

[Toxic_Avenger]

Pop quiz... looking at the oxy set on a trolley, or strapped to a wall, should the acetylene be on the left or the right? (assuming normal vertical inlet regulators are fitted)

[austastar]

Hi,
Mr google seems to indicate Oxygen on the left

Cheers

[Toxic_Avenger]

Pic is correct, but description is not.
Oxy should ideally be on the RHS, and acetylene on left. Idea being that if the other way around, a hose rupture on the acetylene cylinder could heat / weaken oxygen cylinder to the extent of rupture, causing a much larger explosion.

[Chops]

It's surprising how many people turn the valve on, then continue to wind it out ALL THE FREAKING WAY. If something goes wrong, and you need to cut the gas quick, I sure as hell wouldn't want to have my hand near the catastrophe for the 10 turns it takes to shut it off.
Turn it on, then another 1/4 turn is fine. You don't gain 100HP by having it open all the way.
:soapbox:


Went through this with one of our workers yesterday as a matter of fact. She changed the bottle, but still the fork wouldn't start. One look at the valve told me the connection wasn't on properly, therefore no matter how far you turn the tap on,, it won't work. She'd opened it right up, although it was easy to undo again.

I explained to her the possibilities, and my experience the other day of fitting a bottle which had the tap already open.
Decsission time,,, do you go for the tap, or try and undo the connection again. Of course, connections always get jammed when you least want them to [bigsad] Gas burns hurt like hell.

[POD]

Hmm I think the ball is in my court here, took a while to get back to it.
Struggling to come up with something in keeping with the 'Engineering Marvel' theme rather than just a mystery object, here's an engineering marvel that I utilised last year.
This image is straight from Google so I will consider an image search to be cheating.

[Toxic_Avenger]

I've seen this before. There was a docco where a lady was cycling and kayaking along it.
Can't remember the place name though.
It's a navigable aqueduct, but couldn't tell you where it is. Thinking UK.

[Gordie]

It's an aquaduct, in the UK....is it one of Brunells?

[Fifth Columnist]

It's the Pontcysyllte Aqueduct across the River Dee in North Wales built by Thomas Telford.

[POD]

It's the Pontcysyllte Aqueduct across the River Dee in North Wales built by Thomas Telford.

That it is.
We crossed it twice in a rented narrowboat last year. A cast-iron trough on brick arches that carries the Llangollen Canal 307 meters over the valley of the River Dee at a height of 38 meters. Completed in 1805 if memory serves.
No railing or parapet of any kind at the side of the aqueduct, from the steering deck of the narrowboat you look straight down over the side. Was a highlight of a very enjoyable week.

[Homestar]

I think I'd crap myself...

[Tins]

I think I'd crap myself...

Don't like heights? I'll look after the 101 for you[bighmmm]

[Sitec]

I think I'd crap myself...

I think you'd love it! Narrow boating is pretty cool.. You watch the world go by whilst putting along at 4mph, usually with a twin pot Lister, Ford Transit or Land Rover 2.5 d rumbling away underneath! :)

[Old Farang]

I think you'd love it! Narrow boating is pretty cool.. You watch the world go by whilst putting along at 4mph, usually with a twin pot Lister, Ford Transit or Land Rover 2.5 d rumbling away underneath! :)
Its not the narrow boat that would stop me, but that 300 metre drop right next to the boat! Look it up on the internet and marvel at the bod driving the boat with just fresh air under him! :eek2:

[Sitec]

Its not the narrow boat that would stop me, but that 300 metre drop right next to the boat! Look it up on the internet and marvel at the bod driving the boat with just fresh air under him! :eek2:

Been across it twice, years ago, and once at the tiller too! Most childhood holidays were spent on a Narrowboat. :)

[Toxic_Avenger]

A narrow boat sure beats a short bus.

[austastar]

Hi,
Such a pity having to cram into a narrow winged tube for hours to get there. They have way more appeal than the van-on-a-barge offered on the Murray et. al.
Cheers

[cuppabillytea]

Get out of the wind.

[101 Ron]

It is a marvel from the point of view of the displacement of water, the load in the boats and the strength of the bridge.
I believe the trough segments are something like cast iron and are sealed together with lead etc.
The point is you could have a long boat carrying ....say a thousand tons go over the bridge.
No extra strain would be placed on the structure, as the long boat would have to displace the same amount of water to float.
The capacity limit on that bridge is the physical size of the load boat that will fit in the trough.
The real marvel is its still around.

[Tins]

The real marvel is its still around.

Not wrong, though the Brits do tend to treat their history a little better than some.

[Tins]

Been across it twice, years ago, and once at the tiller too! Most childhood holidays were spent on a Narrowboat. :)

So, would that have been a towpath on the side there? Were the narrowboats horse drawn like barges? More important, are horses scared of heights?

[101 Ron]

If no one wants to post some thing.........try this.
It is a real engineering Marvel of the late 1950s to early 1960s.
I purposely not shown the out side of it.
Its record has still not been broken...??????? I think????????
The surprising thing about it is what the main tanks held.
Please don't google picture search.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/797.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/X2NARM)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/X2NARM) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr

[POD]

Yep there is a towpath alongside all of the canal network and I think it's safe to assume that the path along the same side of the aqueduct would have been trodden by the tow horse- I wonder if they needed to be trained to it, or does a horse lack the imagination to be scared of heights? I mused over the displacement thing whilst we were there too, fascinating that the load never gets heavier no matter how many boats are going across.
I've never been good with heights, had to suck it up to take the boat across there. No real need to steer as the trough is only a few inches wider than the boat, didn't like bumping against the side of the trough but I figure if it hasn't broken by now, our chances were pretty good that it would hold together for one more crossing. We spent a week on the canal in a rented boat, had a fantastic time.

[Homestar]

If no one wants to post some thing.........try this.
It is a real engineering Marvel of the late 1950s to early 1960s.
I purposely not shown the out side of it.
Its record has still not been broken...??????? I think????????
The surprising thing about it is what the main tanks held.
Please don't google picture search.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/797.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/X2NARM)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/X2NARM) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr

inside the bathosphere of the first manned journey to the bottom of the Mariana Trench? No Google, just what I remember - can't think of the name of it - something French I think,

[Homestar]

The Trieste? Still haven't googled it, but did cover this at Primary School many years ago.

[101 Ron]

Brillant !!!!!!!!!!!!

It was called the Trieste.
it went to over 35700ft below sea level.
It carried Two people.
It was fitted with different pressure spheres over the years ...about 5 inches thick.
Ballast tanks don't work at great depths, so it carried lead shot.
It also carried 85000 litres of petrol as floating fluid instead of air as petrol doesn't compress.


check it out here.

Bathyscaphe Trieste - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathyscaphe_Trieste)

I thought it would be a hard one to figure out.?????????????

[Homestar]

It fascinated me as a child, I had a pic of it on my wall. :)

[Homestar]

The pic of the Trieste was from a book I got for Christmas as a kid - some kind of engineering encyclopaedia IIRC. I took several pages out of it some years later and stuck them on my wall.

Be stuffed if I can remember exactly which book though...

Anyway, here's a bit of a pic. The exact image won't be on the net, but plenty like it will be.

[cuppabillytea]

Is it a cartridge loader? i.e. ammo?

[Homestar]

Is it a cartridge loader? i.e. ammo?

Nope, nothing to do with ammo or guns.

[Toxic_Avenger]

Coil spring compressor?

[Homestar]

Coil spring compressor?

Nope.

[350RRC]

inside the bathosphere of the first manned journey to the bottom of the Mariana Trench? No Google, just what I remember - can't think of the name of it - something French I think,

Trieste?

DL

[Homestar]

Trieste?

DL

Yes, it came to me after I'd posted. :)

[Homestar]

A clue - it was invented over 200 years ago.

[Chops]

Coffee machine

[Homestar]

No, not a coffee machine. It's a specific part of a larger machine that helped shape the industrial revolution.

[Chops]

Steam engine

Or part there of

[Homestar]

Steam engine

Or part there of

Yep, but I need the name of the part there of as that's the pic, not the steam engine itself. [biggrin]

[350RRC]

Yep, but I need the name of the part there of as that's the pic, not the steam engine itself. [biggrin]

The adjuster on the governor?

DL

[Homestar]

The adjuster on the governor?

DL
Yes, sort of, but I was after the correct name for this unit - the adjuster is on the top of this particular unit, but I'll probably pay this. :)

[350RRC]

I'll have to take a rain check on this atm.

If someone has a good 'un post it up!

cheers, DL

[Homestar]

Ok, someone else jump in - the photo was part of a flyball governor off a steam engine. :)

[Sitec]

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A quick one to pass the time... :)

[350RRC]

Some sort of 3PL pick up hitch?

DL

[Homestar]

Yep, something tractorish - maybe from a Fendt, Massey or Isqueaky....

[POD]

Yep that's a quick hitch arrangement, the 3pl lift arms lift the centre towing hook to enable hooking up a trailer without leaving the cab. I used a farm-made version many years ago but it kept filling up with dirt that wouldn't allow the pin to come all the way up.

[Old Farang]

Yep that's a quick hitch arrangement, the 3pl lift arms lift the centre towing hook to enable hooking up a trailer without leaving the cab. I used a farm-made version many years ago but it kept filling up with dirt that wouldn't allow the pin to come all the way up.
Harry Ferguson had one for the TE 20 from around 1952. Much simpler than that and was combined for use with his hydraulic tipping trailer. We had one in use on a super spreader. The big advantage is the weight is kept low down under the tractor. With the rear tractor wheels turned with the dish facing in(rear wheels swapped from side to side) so just about doubling the width of track, the combined unit would safely go where it was almost too steep to walk.

[Fifth Columnist]

Is that similar to that fitted to the Scammell Scarab?

[Sitec]

Some sort of 3PL pick up hitch?

DL

Sure is! Makes hooking up an ag trailer sooo quick. I'm not sure why they never took off here, because they're so quick to use!

[350RRC]

Rain check again.

Go for it lads!

DL

[JDNSW]

This one should be easy!
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[Disco-tastic]

Im not entirely sure on the name but is it an old radial shock absorber?

Edit: Just googled the name - a friction disk shock absorber?

[JDNSW]

Yes. Friction shock absorber or more correctly, damper. Used extensively in the 1920-1939 period, mainly on high performance cars. Before that nobody used them, and up to about the mid 1930s low cost cars rarely had dampers of any kind, relying on interleaf friction. But as coils and torsion bars started to come in in the 1930s, they became essential, and gradually spread to leaf springs as well, with hydraulic dampers becoming almost ubiquitous by the post war period with telescopic dampers being capable of mass production more cheaply than the earlier lever and vane varieties of damper, although few trucks had any dampers well into the 1970s.

Friction dampers were not, as far as I know, used at all post WW2.

[Disco-tastic]

Heres my effort:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/08/11.jpg

Well, i didnt make it, but it is apparently an aussie engineering marvel.

Yes it is a google image, as no, i dont have one of these lying around the backyard :)

[101 Ron]

Kinda looks like it slices something from a solid mass and turns it into a round bar form or could be the reverse and turns a stream of liquid from a pipe into a flat wide form.

[strangy]

It's a barbecue burner[emoji3]

[Toxic_Avenger]

Looks like some kind of venturi? A burner or some description perhaps?

[Disco-tastic]

It's a barbecue burner[emoji3]Well it gets pretty hot but not sure how youd cook anything on it :D
Looks like some kind of venturi? A burner or some description perhaps?It does have something to do with the flow of gas and burning.

[Tins]

Is it part of a gas chromotograph maybe?

[Disco-tastic]

Is it part of a gas chromotograph maybe?I didn't know what that was (and after reading wikipedia i still dont).

So no. [emoji23]

[101 Ron]

I am thinking along the lines of a gas burner nozzle for a boiler that doesn't require fan forced air ?

[SG1 Bones]

Small gas bottle burner attachment thingo to scrape old paint off?

I know very technical lingo I gave. [emoji1]

[cuppabillytea]

Ya beat me by that much.

[Disco-tastic]

The picture I've shown is an actual working thing, though its probably better known by concept renderings and sketches of how it works

Heres a close up picture of part of a computer rendering of it:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/08/14.jpg

If its not guessed by tomorrow I'll put up a version of that pic with a wider angle of view.

Cheers

Dan

[cuppabillytea]

OK, a wild guess. A rocket Motor.

[Tins]

The picture I've shown is an actual working thing, though its probably better known by concept renderings and sketches of how it works

Heres a close up picture of part of a computer rendering of it:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/08/14.jpg

If its not guessed by tomorrow I'll put up a version of that pic with a wider angle of view.

Cheers

Dan

Something important on Thunderbird 2?

[Disco-tastic]

OK, a wild guess. A rocket Motor.Getting warmer. You should go wild more often Billy...
Something important on Thunderbird 2?Haha maybe in a future thunderbirds

[Tins]

Getting warmer. You should go wild more often Billy...Haha maybe in a future thunderbirds

OK, a scram jet, or part of one.

[101 Ron]

Australia has been doing development work on SCRAM jets.
I think we bolted one on the back of a rocket in the desert somewhere and it ran for about 5 seconds.

[Disco-tastic]

OK, a scram jet, or part of one.

Bingo
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/08/15.jpg

Here is the UQ story i got the original picture from: Need for Speed (http://www.uq.edu.au/research/impact/stories/need-for-speed/)

I find that stuff fascinating, but have only seen theoretical renderings of the actual engines, which look sleek and efficient. The actual engine the uni developed looks awkward in comparison, but I figured I should have a picture of the actual marvel, even if it was confusing [emoji854]

Over to you John.

[Tins]

Bingo

Over to you John.

Why do I try to answer these things? Now, I have to find something...

Some music while you wait:

Sayaka Shoji plays Brahms : Violin Concerto in D major, Op.77 - YouTube (https://youtu.be/wbHUG6utqhs)

[Tins]

Not really a marvel in and of itself, but what marvel is it in? There were more than one, so the right one, please.

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[Disco-tastic]

Im going to guess a zeppelin but have no idea which one. Im going to guess its german though :)

[Chops]

The Hindenburg

[bee utey]

Picture tag says R100 [biggrin]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/08/16.jpg

[Tins]

Picture tag says R100 [biggrin]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/08/16.jpg

done it again have I? I was in a hurry...

Your turn.

[bee utey]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/08/21.jpg

[Ancient Mariner]

longest sea bridge china?



AM

[bee utey]

longest sea bridge china?



AM

Nope. It's actually older than you'd think.

[Tins]

Seven Mile Bridge, Florida. Got blown up in an Arnie movie.

[bee utey]

Seven Mile Bridge, Florida. Got blown up in an Arnie movie.

Nope, but it is American.

[scanfor]

Hindenberg?

[scanfor]

Woops, needed to look at the LAST page. Lol

[Tins]

Nope, but it is American.

Darn. Was so sure... What about the Atchafalaya Basin bridge? Had to google the spelling.

[Tins]

Woops, needed to look at the LAST page. Lol

You didn't miss a lot..

[Old Farang]

Nope, but it is American.
The big bridge in New Orleans wid the strange name?

[bee utey]

The big bridge in New Orleans wid the strange name?

Not that one either.

[bee utey]

Darn. Was so sure... What about the Atchafalaya Basin bridge? Had to google the spelling.

Not that one either. More to the east.

[Tins]

Not that one either. More to the east.

I ran out of long twin bridges, but then I remembered Teddy Kennedy. So, Chesapeake Bay? I'm done if that isn't the one.

[bob10]

The bridge in Louisiana, Lake Ponchtrain, or something?

[bee utey]

I ran out of long twin bridges, but then I remembered Teddy Kennedy. So, Chesapeake Bay? I'm done if that isn't the one.

Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel is what I've got. Built in 1964.

This Engineering Marvel Functions as Both a Bridge and a Tunnel (https://futurism.com/this-engineering-marvel-functions-as-both-a-bridge-and-a-tunnel/)

[Tins]

One off the internet. Let's see if I hid the photo tag[bigwhistle]

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[bee utey]

One off the internet. Let's see if I hid the photo tag[bigwhistle]

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You'll have to try harder than that to hide it from me. [biggrin] However I'll let others try for it by actual "guessing" for a while. [bigsmile1]

[Tins]

You'll have to try harder than that to hide it from me. [biggrin] However I'll let others try for it by actual "guessing" for a while. [bigsmile1]

If I was trying I wouldn't pull stuff of the interweb. Don't have too many marvels around here though.

[101 Ron]

That last photo is of a airport built on reclaimed land.
The photo shows only one part of it.
I think it was china/japan/Taiwan part of the world.
If I remember correctly the land reclaiming side of things was huge.
I cannot remember the name or where.

[Tins]

That last photo is of a airport built on reclaimed land.
The photo shows only one part of it.
I think it was china/japan/Taiwan part of the world.
If I remember correctly the land reclaiming side of things was huge.
I cannot remember the name or where.

You have the transport theme correct, but that's not it.

[trout1105]

Looks like it could be a Hovercraft terminal [biggrin]

[Tins]

Looks like it could be a Hovercraft terminal [biggrin]

It does, but it isn't.

[Chops]

Looks like a loading dock for a transport ferry ⛴ but I've got no idea where.

[rick130]

Beginning of an under sea/lake/body of water tunnel ?
Something like the Chunnel?

[Tins]

Beginning of an under sea/lake/body of water tunnel ?
Something like the Chunnel?

Much warmer, but the other side of the globe.

[Tins]

Looks like a loading dock for a transport ferry ⛴ but I've got no idea where.

Nope.

[Ancient Mariner]

south korea

AM

[Tins]

south korea

AM

Little further East.

[DiscoMick]

Guam?

[Tins]

Guam?


East from SK, not South East....

[Tins]

C'mon guys, Bee Utey is dying to show off. Focus...

[trout1105]

Some sort of loading facility in Japan?

[trout1105]

Maybe a terminal where the train line ends and where the ferry docks?

[Tins]

Maybe a terminal where the train line ends and where the ferry docks?

Answering both posts. It is in Japan. It is not a rail/ferry interchange.

[Tins]

This is another part of this marvel. The whole thing got a look in on Top Gear once. The car was a GTR.

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[bob10]

C'mon guys, Bee Utey is dying to show off. Focus...

Ahh, a hint of jealousy, perhaps?

[101 Ron]

Japan has some long under sea tunnels joining the islands for road and rail.

[Tins]

Japan has some long under sea tunnels joining the islands for road and rail.

So, keep going...

[Fifth Columnist]

So, keep going...
It's not a terminus then.......[bigwhistle]

[Tins]

It's not a terminus then.......[bigwhistle]

Well spotted..

[350RRC]

Well spotted..

Osaka, where the annual two handed ocean race finishes every year?

DL

[Tins]

Osaka, where the annual two handed ocean race finishes every year?

DL

You are but a 400 km Shinkansen ride from where this is.

[350RRC]

You are but a 400 km Shinkansen ride from where this is.

Then it'll be the port that wants to hijack all the economic benefits from being the finish of the Melb / Osaka race. [bigrolf][bigrolf]

DL

[Sitec]

Kawasaki..... ;)

[trout1105]

You are but a 400 km Shinkansen ride from where this is.

That narrows it down to Tokyo [thumbsupbig]

[Tins]

That narrows it down to Tokyo [thumbsupbig]


Big city.

[DiscoMick]

Yeah I'm thinking Tokyo too, where the ocean was reclaimed, but I don't have a name.

Yes I do. The Tokyo Bay Aqua Line with the Tower of the Wind linking Kawasaki and Kimitsu.

[cuppabillytea]

Let's not forget that this is about the Marvel, not its location.
My guess is it's a Carpark for recreational fisher folk.

Oh and I'm only half joking too.[biggrin]

[Tins]

Let's not forget that this is about the Marvel, not its location.
My guess is it's a Carpark for recreational fisher folk.

Oh and I'm only half joking too.[biggrin]

Which half?

[trout1105]

It is an artificial island named "Umihotaru" [biggrin]
It is a rest point and a tollway to enter the tunnel that crosses the bay.

[trout1105]

Wikipedia link

Tokyo Bay Aqua-Line - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_Bay_Aqua-Line)

[DiscoMick]

Or it could be Tokyo Disney Sea.

[Tins]

It is an artificial island named "Umihotaru" [biggrin]

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Part of the Tokyo Bay Acqua Line Bridge Tunnel complex. Trout, thank you. Your turn.

Sorry, Bee. I would have handed it to you in about half an hour, as it's bed time.

[trout1105]

Trout, thank you. Your turn.

I will come up with something tomorrow as it is too dark and cold to go poking about in the old shed to find something right now[thumbsupbig]

[Sitec]

It is an artificial island named "Umihotaru" [biggrin]
It is a rest point and a tollway to enter the tunnel that crosses the bay.

Umihotaru is the name of the island where the road enters the tunnel... The sails are known as The Tower of Wind Island or Kawasaki Island. ;)

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Umihotaru is the name of the island where the road enters the tunnel... The sails are known as The Tower of Wind Island or Kawasaki Island. ;)

Yes, and I was considering your Kawasaki response, and would have also gone with the Tokyo Bay Acqua thing, but Umihotaru is what I wanted. Unbelievable achievement. Makes CityLink look like something I used to do in the sandpit.

[cuppabillytea]

Which half?

I'm not sure if it's the fly half or the dummy half.
Not much point asking you I suppose.

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I'm not sure if it's the fly half or the dummy half.
Not much point asking you I suppose.

No. Forward half or back half should be enough for people of intellect and breeding...

Caveat: When I lived in Sydney I chose to follow the Panthers, mostly because they were out in the then boonies with me. The NSW papers wouldn't give so much as a sentence to the then VFL. Much good it did them. More people turn up these days to watch the Swans train as go to a league match[bigrolf][bigrolf]

When I lived in Qld I just ignored Rugby and got the papers mailed up from Melb.[biggrin]

[cuppabillytea]

No. Forward half or back half should be enough for people of intellect and breeding...

Caveat: When I lived in Sydney I chose to follow the Panthers, mostly because they were out in the then boonies with me. The NSW papers wouldn't give so much as a sentence to the then VFL. Much good it did them. More people turn up these days to watch the Swans train as go to a league match[bigrolf][bigrolf]

When I lived in Qld I just ignored Rugby and got the papers mailed up from Melb.[biggrin]

Who came in?

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Who came in?

Err, you, IIRC.

Let's not hijack this thread too much, Billy. You, Ian and I have form.

[Sitec]

Yes, and I was considering your Kawasaki response, and would have also gone with the Tokyo Bay Acqua thing, but Umihotaru is what I wanted. Unbelievable achievement. Makes CityLink look like something I used to do in the sandpit.

It's a crazy achievement! How they deal with ground movement on something that long is beyond me! :)

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It's a crazy achievement! How they deal with ground movement on something that long is beyond me! :)

Especially when you take the seismic nature of the region into account. It blows my mind.

[cuppabillytea]

The Sydney Harbour Tunnel is a series if short prestressed concrete tubes held together with prestressing cables. Only a shortie but you'd imagine that over a long distance such a tunnel would be fairly flexible.

[trout1105]

I have been flat out changing wheel bearings and doing other stuff to get ready to head off Bush for a few weeks and I haven't had time to Rummage through the old shed for a new "Wonder" Sorry Guys.
Looks like I will have to pass the Baton to "Sitec" [thumbsupbig]

[Tins]

The Sydney Harbour Tunnel is a series if short prestressed concrete tubes held together with prestressing cables. Only a shortie but you'd imagine that over a long distance such a tunnel would be fairly flexible.

The SHT is in fact pretty small beer compared to the Burnley Tunnel in Melb, but they both are nothing compared to this one. Then there is Chunnel.

[cuppabillytea]

Could someone please have a look down the back Trout's shed. I think he might be stuck in there.

[trout1105]

Trout is 1000k's from his shed.
I have been fishing and drinking beer for the last week or so and will be doing it for the next 2 weeks as well.
Someone else will have to "step up" :)