Burst Air Line Repair.

[Disco-tastic]

Hi all,

Was out bush today and on the last hill i heard a loud pop and thought id busted an airbag spring! Turned out to be a busted air line
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/06/330.jpg (http://s57.photobucket.com/user/lawolski/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170612_194810_zps90wyynbr.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/06/331.jpg (http://s57.photobucket.com/user/lawolski/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170612_194833_zpslpjf8zzp_edit_1497267255272_zps w39wfgzb.jpg.html)

Not entirely sure what it connects, but the air tank was completely empty when i removed it (i hadn't emptied air the system). The wheel in the pic is the front left.

I was thinking of buying a connector and just cut out the damaged part and install the connector. Not being clever in the area of pneumatics, i was wondering if people had any other recommendations. Or if people could recomment a suitable connector thats up to the high lressure task? (I believe its 6mm OD pipe but i only have a tape measure)?

Cheers

Dan

[Russrobe]

Looks at all that mud Dan, where have you been playing! Looks like mine did.

Anyway hopefully someone has the answer for you. Think i have the connectors but it came with my GOE air up kit... Not sure where people sourced just the one...

[Tins]

Hi all,

Was out bush today and on the last hill i heard a loud pop and thought id busted an airbag spring! Turned out to be a busted air line
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/06/330.jpg (http://s57.photobucket.com/user/lawolski/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170612_194810_zps90wyynbr.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/06/331.jpg (http://s57.photobucket.com/user/lawolski/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170612_194833_zpslpjf8zzp_edit_1497267255272_zps w39wfgzb.jpg.html)

Not entirely sure what it connects, but the air tank was completely empty when i removed it (i hadn't emptied air the system). The wheel in the pic is the front left.

I was thinking of buying a connector and just cut out the damaged part and install the connector. Not being clever in the area of pneumatics, i was wondering if people had any other recommendations. Or if people could recomment a suitable connector thats up to the high lressure task? (I believe its 6mm OD pipe but i only have a tape measure)?

Cheers

Dan

Find a 'smart' EnZed guy, or similar. I once (! V8ian, what do you say, want to do a count? ) ? blew a suzi line between trailers. Ten minutes saw it fixed. I don't know the right way to spell it, but a suzi line connects the air lines between trailers on semis, B-Doubles and road trains, so you want it to work, as it controls the brakes. Air lines are important, but they ain't rocket science.

[LRD414]

Yes can be repaired with a 6mm connector Dan. A few suggestions in this thread a couple of years ago.
Air suspension damaged (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/227353-air-suspension-damaged-3.html)

Cheers,
Scott

[Chops]

Get a couple of foot worth of pipe and some connectors so you've got some spare pipe as well for any further problems down the track. Gordon's of course sells a kit for this sort of stuff too, but I think that's more airbag oriented (?).

[Pedro_The_Swift]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/06/327.jpg

[LRD414]

Get a couple of foot worth of pipe and some connectors so you've got some spare pipe as well for any further problems down the track. Gordon's of course sells a kit for this sort of stuff too, but I think that's more airbag oriented (?).

I have Gordon's kit and it includes spare pipe and connectors as well as the air bag emergency inflation parts. Both the pipe & connectors are rated to a higher pressure/temperature than what is commonly available but I'm sure you could source yourself too with a bit of research.

Scott

[Disco-tastic]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/06/327.jpg
Thanks Pedro. I did find those however they're rated to 150psi, and the system apparently has peak pressures of 334psi. Will check out that website though [emoji106]

[Pedro_The_Swift]

sorry, didnt take the D4 weight into consideration,, [biggrin]

if you go to brass,, I'd recommend using the proper sealing compound as well,,[wink11]

[Disco-tastic]

Yes can be repaired with a 6mm connector Dan. A few suggestions in this thread a couple of years ago.
Air suspension damaged (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/227353-air-suspension-damaged-3.html)

Cheers,
Scott
Thanks Scott. I'll be honest - I didn't even bother searching on my phone and my laptop died a little while ago. Thanks for finding that. :)

[Russrobe]

Pretty sure Gordons are brass. He also changed air line suppliers recently due to some not holding sufficient pressure.

I'd shoot him an email and see if he can express ship a kit. He's probably caught up with his orders by now and they're a must have touring spare anyway IMO.

[Disco-tastic]

Hey Russ. Found them for $10 a pop at the local Pirtek. Will probably grab a couple and some spare pipe. Only problem is theres like 3 different pipe sizes :(

[LRD414]

Hey Russ. Found them for $10 a pop at the local Pirtek. Will probably grab a couple and some spare pipe. Only problem is theres like 3 different pipe sizes :(
Pipe / Diameter
High pressure pipes / 6 mm
Compressor inlet pipe / 8 mm
Inlet filter to silencer / 8 mm
Compressor exhaust pipe / 10 mm
Silencer exhaust pipe / 19 mm

[Disco-tastic]

Is suppose the only ones likely to bust are the 6mm high pressure lines. Anyone heard of the other pipes failing?

[Graeme]

Not entirely sure what it connects, but the air tank was completely empty when i removed it (i hadn't emptied air the system).The air-line connects the front valve block to the reservoir valve block. The reservoir would have emptied as the front was attempted to be levelled.

[Disco-tastic]

All fixed!

Bought two metal push fittings from Pirtek plus a foot of hose for $20 :)

Used a razor blade to cut the busted bit of pipe out. With the first fitting fitted - i was hoping the fitting would make up for the inch of pipe i cut out, but no where near
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/06/305.jpg (http://s57.photobucket.com/user/lawolski/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170613_185808_zpsyrktr2db.jpg.html)

I ended up cutting the hose so that the fittings were near the hose supports so they weren't bouncing about as much. And all finished:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/06/306.jpg (http://s57.photobucket.com/user/lawolski/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170613_190523_zpshffmufnq.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/06/307.jpg (http://s57.photobucket.com/user/lawolski/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20170613_190528_zpsl6rkzpb1.jpg.html)

Car seems to be working fine, hooray!

Thanks to all of you for your info
[emoji106]

Cheers

Dan

[LRD414]

Good job. Were you able to confirm pressure and temperature rating at Pirtek for the fitting and hose?

Scott

[Disco-tastic]

The guy couldnt find the rating for the fittings but had tested one until 1600psi before the pipe burst. I had seen the plastic ones rated to 150psi, and i believe the ones graham uses are 1200psi rated so im comfortable that the metal ones would be right for 350psi+ (i think theyre more like 600-1200, but its just my opinion)

The hose in the "book" was rated at 1160psi but when i got home the hose actually had 2000kpa (290psi) stamped on it. Its in there now and I'll see how it goes.

Actual costs were about $10.50 per fitting and $2.10 per metre of hose.

[LRD414]

Temperature range affects hose ratings so the different numbers could have a different basis.

[Aussie Jeepster]

The guy couldnt find the rating for the fittings but had tested one until 1600psi before the pipe burst. I had seen the plastic ones rated to 150psi, and i believe the ones graham uses are 1200psi rated so im comfortable that the metal ones would be right for 350psi+ (i think theyre more like 600-1200, but its just my opinion)

The hose in the "book" was rated at 1160psi but when i got home the hose actually had 2000kpa (290psi) stamped on it. Its in there now and I'll see how it goes.

Actual costs were about $10.50 per fitting and $2.10 per metre of hose.

Is there a part number for the fittings?

[Disco-tastic]

Is there a part number for the fittings?
Z20004-M06

Pirtek fitting. Just did a quick google search, couldnt find a rating.