Unbolting second row seats in 110

[Simon]

Time to replace the shredded rubber matting. So will need to take the row out as rubber runs from the loadspace and under the seat mounting (2013 Puma).

Is it as simple as just unbolt the large obvious torx head bolts and lift out, or is there a pitfall to trap the unwary (sounds of nuts on the other side dropping into impossible places......)?

Cheers

Simon

[Simon]

Worked it out, not that hard in the end, just fold the seats forward and unbolt the bracket from the floor.

Now I know where the kids sweets end up when they drop them.

[Colmoore]

Worked it out, not that hard in the end, just fold the seats forward and unbolt the bracket from the floor.

Now I know where the kids sweets end up when they drop them.

Dyna mat it under the rubber mate

[Simon]

I did think about that, but don't find the noise level an issue so decided to wait for now. I went for 5mm rubber, so a bit thicker than the original. Also did the 2nd row floor. Do you need to modify the retaining clamps to fit the extra thickness of the dynamat?

[AndyG]

I did think about that, but don't find the noise level an issue so decided to wait for now. I went for 5mm rubber, so a bit thicker than the original. Also did the 2nd row floor. Do you need to modify the retaining clamps to fit the extra thickness of the dynamat?

Nope, the Defenders 'flexible' specifications cope with a layer of Dynamat no worries at all.

[timax]

Can i ask how many bolts and if its possible to take the seats out or put them in quickly?
I have been toying with the idea of upgrading my TD5 110 and its something i do often. I use drilled bolts with pins instead of nuts and can remove the seats in about 30 seconds.

[roverrescue]

TIMAX

The PO of my 130 installed 110 rear seats so they fold down

To remove take your trusty hitachi impact driver with a torx bit - buzz out a few bolts for the seat and lift out, nuts are captive and its all too easy.
May not be 30 seconds but wouldnt be much more than that.
The seats are pretty heavy from memory 45kg for the double and 25kg for the single when I weighed them for shizzle

Lotsomucho space with the seats removed

S

[karlz]

...I use drilled bolts with pins instead of nuts and can remove the seats in about 30 seconds.....

I was toying with idea, but worries about anyone actually sitting them and them coming adrift.
Are you able to show me the types of pins you used?
Is this safe?

Thanks

[Simon]

6 small torx screws gets the plastic cover off the base. Then 6 large torx bolts to take the base off the floor. Seat needs to be litter forward to do this

There are also front fixing points where the seats hinge forward. I didn't have to undo these as the mat is cut around them. Looks like 4 more large torx bolts and then nuts on 4 more bolts to get everything out.

The first bit would take no more than 5 mins.

Another thing I learnt, a cuppa chup stick chewed flat at one end is great for running into corners and joins to get dirt out. The kids had dropped one amongst the other mess.

[timax]

I was toying with idea, but worries about anyone actually sitting them and them coming adrift.
Are you able to show me the types of pins you used?
Is this safe?

Thanks

I use pins like these Quick Release Racing Shock Pins : Shock Pins : Quick Release Pins : Racing Quick Release Shock Pins (http://pitstopusa.com/c-134701-chassis-suspension-shock-parts-accessories-shock-accessories-shock-quick-release-pins.html)

I just drilled the standard bolt and use a washer between the pin and the mount. The weight is taken on the bolt not the pin. Works well.
I take mine out to fit a bed for weekends away.

[DiscoMick]

I'm intending to lay noise insulation but after looking I figured I would just cut it to fit around the mounts as the back peels off to stick down so it won't move anyway.

[Ancient Mariner]

Adding -Removing or altering seating in QLD requires an inspection and mod plate:rulez: Just so you know

AM

[TeamFA]

Adding -Removing or altering seating in QLD requires an inspection and mod plate:rulez: Just so you know

AM

Yeah... heard about this. I can understand a mod plate for adding seats, but having a hard time understanding the justification for a mod plate for removing seats...

[Ancient Mariner]

Yeah... heard about this. I can understand a mod plate for adding seats, but having a hard time understanding the justification for a mod plate for removing seats...
Yeah load of crap When I had my 110 engineered he said better do the seating as I had removed 5 seats for a drawer system. Same deal if I put them back in:toilet:

[DiscoMick]

I think any change to the number of seats fitted by the manufacturer requires approval unless it is temporary as the vehicle is approved for sale in Australia with a certain number of seats. Any change to searbelts definitely needs approval as it is a safety issue.

[ezyrama]

I removed mine recently and fitted a storage system for a few trips. I asked the same question to a mechanic mate of mine here at work that does mod plates, and another mate is who is a police officer and the both told me that the police don't really care, but if I ever get pulled over by the Queensland Transport, (Scalies) just say "It's only out on a temporary basis for a holiday that I am doing in the next few weeks".
Q; What's the difference between a pig and a scalie?
A; You can take a pig to a party and it can't make a scalie of itself.

[DiscoMick]

Yes I was told that temporary removal was OK as long as the searbelts were left untouched.

[ezyrama]

Good part about it is, there is no time definition listed on "Temporary Removal"

[BeAnoldboy]

Good part about it is, there is no time definition listed on "Temporary Removal"
I am a huge fan of semantics me