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apom
27th June 2017, 07:00 AM
Hi All.

So a few of you know I have been working on this for sometime now. It's taken over 6 months of investigations, designing, trialing, testing, understanding regulations and standards, as well as working with engineers and different factories to get to this point. Without naming people, a huge thanks goes to a small group of friends that have assisted in the project to date.
I am thrilled to announce that Tuff Ant 18" steel wheels are now available to pre-order from tuffant (https://www.tuffant.com/)

apom
27th June 2017, 07:04 AM
I know people have been asking for this for a long time. I have posted a thread on 'The Verandah' about these new 18's specific to this group on the forum [smilebigeye]

Owen
27th June 2017, 07:15 AM
Will they fit the 3.0 SD V6?

rocket rod
27th June 2017, 08:11 AM
Very interesting, but I've already got some 18s

Redback
27th June 2017, 08:20 AM
This is a great option for those that just can't quite afford 18" alloys for offroad work and D4s look tuff with steel rims[thumbsupbig]

l00kin4
27th June 2017, 08:23 AM
Would be good to see some pics of the wheels on a /some Discos

LRD414
27th June 2017, 08:41 AM
Would be good to see some pics of the wheels on a /some Discos
You're right David, that is the best form of advertising and you will see a set on mine as soon as it's feasible. I have had some minor involvement assisting Andrew with this project and am very pleased and excited that it's come to fruition. I know the effort he has put in on all fronts, from design, to engineering, to sourcing and pricing. Hopefully enough people get on board.

Cheers,
Scott

l00kin4
27th June 2017, 08:52 AM
You're right David, that is the best form of advertising and you will see a set on mine as soon as it's feasible. I have had some minor involvement assisting Andrew with this project and am very pleased and excited that it's come to fruition. I know the effort he has put in on all fronts, from design, to engineering, to sourcing and pricing. Hopefully enough people get on board.

Cheers,
Scott

Thanks Scott. Will you swap out the Compomotives?

Leezels
27th June 2017, 09:10 AM
Will these wheels be located lug centric or will the centre bore match the hub size to centre the wheel?

veebs
27th June 2017, 09:48 AM
Exciting times - thanks for putting in the hard yards!

Re the link above, might pay to check the details - looks to be going via facebook?

shanegtr
27th June 2017, 10:15 AM
Will these wheels be located lug centric or will the centre bore match the hub size to centre the wheel?
I'd also be interested to know what the bore size will be. Could be a viable option for my camper trailer if the bore size fits over the parallel bearing hub.........

apom
27th June 2017, 10:18 AM
Will they fit the 3.0 SD V6?

Yes, they will fit without any modification

apom
27th June 2017, 10:21 AM
Will these wheels be located lug centric or will the centre bore match the hub size to centre the wheel?

Without getting into engineer speak, in this case its important the BOTH align correctly to have the load evenly distributed. The wheels aligns with both the lugs and he centre bore, as recommended by the Australian engineers

apom
27th June 2017, 10:23 AM
Would be good to see some pics of the wheels on a /some Discos

Absolutely agree, we are excited and cant wait to see the final product on the cars. This will happen within the next 30 days or so

apom
27th June 2017, 10:27 AM
Exciting times - thanks for putting in the hard yards!

Re the link above, might pay to check the details - looks to be going via facebook?

Thanks for the heads up... sorted now :)

LRD414
27th June 2017, 10:46 AM
Thanks Scott. Will you swap out the Compomotives?
David, my plan is to run the steelies on excursions to particularly rocky or difficult tracks when the wheels are likely to be damaged.
Plus I'll fit mud tyres but in the same size as on my Compos. The Compos will continue with KO2s or similar for longer outback expeditions or when a mud tyre is undesirable. When warranted I'll take a steelie as second spare so all of them will be the same size.

If I didn't have the Compos? I'd probably just keep the factory wheels for around town and run steelies for all offroad trips and in that case run KO2s.

Cheers,
Scott

l00kin4
27th June 2017, 11:02 AM
David, my plan is to run the steelies on excursions to particularly rocky or difficult tracks when the wheels are likely to be damaged.
Plus I'll fit mud tyres but in the same size as on my Compos. The Compos will continue with KO2s or similar for longer outback expeditions or when a mud tyre is undesirable. When warranted I'll take a steelie as second spare so all of them will be the same size.

If I didn't have the Compos? I'd probably just keep the factory wheels for around town and run steelies for all offroad trips and in that case run KO2s.

Cheers,
Scott

I like your thinking! [bigsmile1] Sounds ideal

If only I had a bit more storage space. I'm already pushing it with 6 wheels and tyres in the garage!

cjc_td5
27th June 2017, 11:21 AM
I like your thinking! [bigsmile1] Sounds ideal

If only I had a bit more storage space. I'm already pushing it with 6 wheels and tyres in the garage!
Ha, you should try storing stuff for a couple of series projects as well😁😁😁.

Great news re the wheels. As recently as yesterday I was speaking to Tempe Tyres trying to source 18" wheels. I am very interested to see a pic and confirm offset, weight rating etc...

Chris

DiscoJeffster
27th June 2017, 01:23 PM
But what's the cost? That's what I care about [emoji3]

Pedro_The_Swift
27th June 2017, 01:32 PM
I saw $$ on the website---

try here--
tuffant (https://www.tuffant.com/wheels)

DiscoJeffster
27th June 2017, 01:39 PM
Nice work

apom
27th June 2017, 01:55 PM
Ha, you should try storing stuff for a couple of series projects as well😁😁😁.

Great news re the wheels. As recently as yesterday I was speaking to Tempe Tyres trying to source 18" wheels. I am very interested to see a pic and confirm offset, weight rating etc...

Chris

Thanks Chris, more technical info on the website and the sample set will be on the D4 in about 30 days

Meken
27th June 2017, 06:58 PM
tuffant (https://www.tuffant.com/)

A mate has developed and is in final stage testing of an 18in steel wheel to fit the D4 (&D3 possibly D5)

See link above - preorders available now

Ken

ATH
27th June 2017, 07:45 PM
I'm in the market for new rims to replace the 19s plus tyres of course, but don't want to pay what's being asked for replacement alloys. Either that or go for something in the limited range of tyres for them available at this stage.
I've sent an email with my queries re quality control and await their reply with interest.
AlanH.

Meken
27th June 2017, 07:51 PM
I'm in the market for new rims to replace the 19s plus tyres of course, but don't want to pay what's being asked for replacement alloys. Either that or go for something in the limited range of tyres for them available at this stage.
I've sent an email with my queries re quality control and await their reply with interest.
AlanH.

Andrew (Tuffant) is a fellow passionate D4 owner - I am very confident the quality will be excellent

ATH
27th June 2017, 07:58 PM
I've already chatted the Cook about them..... she reckons she'll cut down on the amount of tucker she feeds me to pay for them! [bigsad]
AlanH.

cjc_td5
27th June 2017, 08:17 PM
Alan. There is a thread running in the vendor area with more info about the wheels.
Chris

winaje
27th June 2017, 08:53 PM
Cire70 just bought 6... I reckon they will sell very quickly.

LRD414
27th June 2017, 09:35 PM
Cire70 just bought 6... I reckon they will sell very quickly.
I'll be buying four. Here's the Vendor thread:
18" Steel Wheels now available for Discovery 3, 4 and 5 (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/the-verandah/250701-18-steel-wheels-now-available-discovery-3-4-5-a.html)

Cheers,
Scott

DI5CO
27th June 2017, 11:50 PM
Well done!!

Strop
28th June 2017, 05:55 AM
Just doing a weight comparison. These are 17kg.

What is the weight of the standard 19" alloy rim with no tyre?

Graeme
28th June 2017, 06:21 AM
Have they been tried on a 4.4 TDV8 L322?

Stuart02
28th June 2017, 06:39 AM
Have they been tried on a 4.4 TDV8 L322?
L320 TDV8?
Plans for more colours?
Also what do they weigh?
Assume they'll need different nuts, included or will there be a recommended option?
The compos are brilliant but the price point on these could make them game changers. Very exciting.

apom
28th June 2017, 06:59 AM
Just doing a weight comparison. These are 17kg.

What is the weight of the standard 19" alloy rim with no tyre?

18" Alloy is between 12-14kg depending on the model etc. I will post the actual final weight once the pre-production sample is complete but they should fall between 17-18kg.

apom
28th June 2017, 07:05 AM
L320 TDV8?
Plans for more colours?
Also what do they weigh?
Assume they'll need different nuts, included or will there be a recommended option?
The compos are brilliant but the price point on these could make them game changers. Very exciting.

Just tried these on the D4 range at present but it has slightly more space than the 18" alloy currently available for the D4. Will weight between 17-18kg

Once the pre-production models arrive, I will create a full fitment guide and post it on the website

They do need different nuts, and these are included. They are 22mm specifically size to match the existing LR wheel brace.

At present its the Henry Ford colour choice... anything as long as you like black. :)

If there is enough interest, they can be painted any colour in the factory.

DiscoClax
28th June 2017, 08:05 AM
The good people at TuffAnt replied to my query overnight - below...

Modus Pty Ltd replied to your message:

Thanks for the email.

1. The target weight of each wheel is around 17kg with a load rating of 1400kg.
2. They are hub centric as recommended by the local engineer and come with specific conical chrome capped nuts that are 22mm so they fit the standard LR wheel brace.
3. These have a better clearance than the compomotives so if they fit, these should fit for sure. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me again,

cheers

Andrew



Not cheap for steelies @ $215 each (and that's at the pre-order special price) plus freight, but definitely a cheap option to run 18s over the bigger brakes for sure. And a lot of people prefer steel wheels for more adventurous use. Good on them! These will be high up my shopping list if I get that lovely RRS I've got my eye on...

Redback
28th June 2017, 10:10 AM
When you concider 17" Dynamics in basic silver are $138 for the D3 and after a while they do tend to crack, an 18" steel rim is bound to be dearer and if the quality is there, that price is not to bad.

Just so you know, the VW Amarok takes a 5x120 16/17/18 rim in the same offset, centre hole is 65mm though, just in case you want to spread your wings apom[bigwhistle]

DiscoClax
28th June 2017, 10:31 AM
So - as I understand it - these wheels should fit just about any RRS or FFRR as well as D3+.... right? It'll only be the Supercharged, etc with the bonkers-big brakes that they won't fit, but the TDV8 Brembo brakes will clear, for example. I guess they'd also fit a D2? Does that sound about right?

cjc_td5
28th June 2017, 10:44 AM
So - as I understand it - these wheels should fit just about any RRS or FFRR as well as D3+.... right? It'll only be the Supercharged, etc with the bonkers-big brakes that they won't fit, but the TDV8 Brembo brakes will clear, for example. I guess they'd also fit a D2? Does that sound about right?
D2 has different PCD etc so not them.

DiscoClax
28th June 2017, 11:21 AM
D2 has different PCD etc so not them.

I thought the D2 had the same PCD, center bore and similar offset to the D3+ and RRS, etc? And the P38A also... Pretty much any new model after the mid/early 90s came with the new pattern as I believed it?

cjc_td5
28th June 2017, 12:12 PM
I thought the D2 had the same PCD, center bore and similar offset to the D3+ and RRS, etc? And the P38A also... Pretty much any new model after the mid/early 90s came with the new pattern as I believed it?
My apologies you may be correct. Bore dia. is smaller on a D2 so D4 wheels may fit a D2?

Graeme
28th June 2017, 04:30 PM
TDV8 Brembo brakes will clear, for example.The 3.6 TDV8 Brembos are 4-pot whereas the 4.4 TDV8 Brembos are 6-pot and Compomotives only fit over the 4-pots.

DiscoClax
29th June 2017, 07:50 AM
The 3.6 TDV8 Brembos are 4-pot whereas the 4.4 TDV8 Brembos are 6-pot and Compomotives only fit over the 4-pots.

Cheers Graeme. Yes I mean't the smaller big brakes [tonguewink] But thanks for clarifying the differences. In the end I'd prefer the Compomotives as I reckon a nice car like the Rangie deserves a premium wheel and steelies look a bit low-spec on these beautifully engineered, premium $100k+ vehicles, but that's my personal opinion and I certainly applaud TuffAnt for providing a viable and cheaper genuine alternative. Great to have the choice and options. I want a set of each now....

cjc_td5
29th June 2017, 12:49 PM
...

If there is enough interest, they can be painted any colour in the factory.

I know black is the current colour of choice but if I go this way I would be repainting mine. My choice would be silver, the same colour as the OEM "spoked" steel wheels that came with the Disco 1s. Hammertone Silver looks good also.

Stuart02
29th June 2017, 01:31 PM
I know black is the current colour of choice but if I go this way I would be repainting mine. My choice would be silver, the same colour as the OEM "spoked" steel wheels that came with the Disco 1s. Hammertone Silver looks good also.
My vote would be graphite :)

DiscoClax
29th June 2017, 02:30 PM
My vote would be graphite :)
IMHO black and white look a bit too aftermarket. Silver or gunmetal (ish) looks more like you meant it and could be factory. Charcoal, argent, etc are all shades of this.

All of these "black packs" being done currently will likely change that perception over time... but that where I'm still at the mo'.

apom
29th June 2017, 07:16 PM
Yep, i have thought about offering a second colour, a charcoal or graphite could look good i agree. I will go with what the people want the most for sure!

2012 Lux
29th June 2017, 09:12 PM
Yep just bought 6. Can't wait to give the old girl some proper rubber for our lovely WA sand!!

LRD414
29th June 2017, 09:14 PM
Charcoal is my vote too.

DrOsteo
29th June 2017, 09:22 PM
Yep charcoal

Stuart02
30th June 2017, 05:39 AM
We're such a precious bunch, aren't we?! :D

DiscoClax
30th June 2017, 08:05 AM
We're such a precious bunch, aren't we?! :D
I've always just repainted them a metallic graphite color with a rattle can before fitting them. But a proper powder coat would be so much better...

DiscoJeffster
30th June 2017, 08:08 AM
Just don't wash them for a few weeks. The brake dust will make them look charcoal and you'll incentivise yourself not to wash it

apom
1st July 2017, 06:02 PM
There have been quite a few FAQs this week about tyre sizes so I have added a fitment guide to the site

Discovery 18" wheels | Land rover 18" rims | Tuffant (https://www.tuffant.com/tyres)

apom
1st July 2017, 06:03 PM
There have been quite a few FAQs this week about tyre sizes so I have added a fitment guide to the site

Discovery 18" wheels | Land rover 18" rims | Tuffant (https://www.tuffant.com/tyres)

wbowner
1st July 2017, 06:36 PM
Are there any issues going to the 18" rim

eg legalities, speedo etc

i know when I went to a larger tyre on another car I had to get my speedo recalibrated, mind you they had to do nothing as speedo was more accurate afterwards

WB

LRD414
1st July 2017, 09:12 PM
Speedo and tyre width legalities depend on the tyre size rather than just the wheel size. The offset has a maximum change allowed and the steelie is within that requirement being the same offset as the Compo. The 265/60 tyre size is well within speedo, diameter and track increase limits and I think the 265/65 & 285/60 are both just within the requirements too, or maybe just over (can't quite remember the max allowed diameter increase).

Scott

pop058
1st July 2017, 09:22 PM
Speedo and tyre width legalities depend on the tyre size rather than just the wheel size. The offset has a maximum change allowed and the steelie is within that requirement being the same offset as the Compo. The 265/60 tyre size is well within speedo, diameter and track increase limits and I think the 265/65 & 285/60 are both just within the requirements too, or maybe just over (can't quite remember the max allowed diameter increase).

Scott

50mm max diameter increase (without engineering) IIRC

wbowner
1st July 2017, 10:37 PM
Speedo and tyre width legalities depend on the tyre size rather than just the wheel size. The offset has a maximum change allowed and the steelie is within that requirement being the same offset as the Compo. The 265/60 tyre size is well within speedo, diameter and track increase limits and I think the 265/65 & 285/60 are both just within the requirements too, or maybe just over (can't quite remember the max allowed diameter increase).

Scott
Scott
Thanks for the info (and Paul.) The new rims would change the tyre size a bit,which would effect the diameter and the speedo readings even if within legal limits. This was the case with my previous car when I went for slightly bigger tyres. When 50mm but I still was required to get the speedo recalibrated which was a waste of time and money.

. I reckon the many people who have the Compo alloys would have had to deal with any issues by now. I guess one biggy would be insurance but they seem to be interested in if legal or not.


i certainly will look into them when I am due for another set of tyres, if not before and look forward to hearing any feedback



WB

Graeme
2nd July 2017, 05:26 AM
The new rims would change the tyre size a bit,which would effect the diameter and the speedo readings even if within legal limits.Not if the equivalent D3/4 18" size was fitted, being 255/60R18. However 265/60R18 is a far more popular size with minimal OD increase.

Redback
2nd July 2017, 08:33 AM
My apologies you may be correct. Bore dia. is smaller on a D2 so D4 wheels may fit a D2?

Centre hole is the same size, but the D3/4 has a tapered hole and why the D3/4 won't fit a trailer hub, but should fit a D2 hub.

Graeme
2nd July 2017, 09:32 AM
No, the D2 has a smaller bore. To fit D3/D4/X5 rims on a D2 concentric rings are required unless steel rims with their tapered nuts.

Redback
2nd July 2017, 03:28 PM
No, the D2 has a smaller bore. To fit D3/D4/X5 rims on a D2 concentric rings are required unless steel rims with their tapered nuts.

I thought they were the same 73.'mm, there ya go, learn something new every day here[smilebigeye]

Russrobe
3rd July 2017, 09:39 PM
Love my standard 18" LR alloys, the beads are stuck on like glue, 2.7L life.... Just saying =p

bjasch94
20th July 2017, 08:11 PM
Pretty keen to place my order. I'm very sure this is a great option for me...
Just wondering if you've got any pictures yet of these beauties on a D4..?

Brad.

apom
21st July 2017, 06:37 PM
Pretty keen to place my order. I'm very sure this is a great option for me...
Just wondering if you've got any pictures yet of these beauties on a D4..?

Brad.


Final mold is in production and will have some on a D4 within the next couple of weeks. Below is the latest image file, this week we made some final tweaks to increase the area around the valve to allow different TPMS systems to be used around the world.

As far an insurance, compliance, legalities warranties etc. These will be built to AS/SAE and ISO Standards as well as certified by Australian Engineering company to ensure there will be NO issues with any of those problems. The wheels will also be DOT Stamped as required for the USA as well as all other requirements for these standards.

There is likely to be a colour choice, Satin Back or a Graphite / Charcoal colour. Pre Purchasers will have a choice within the next week on it.

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veebs
24th July 2017, 02:17 PM
Continue to follow with keen interest :-)

I don't suppose you were able to, erm, borrow LR's approach with respect to the bead? That is, something that holds on to the rubber to the point of causing the local tyre shop to swear profusely when changing tyres?

apom
27th July 2017, 11:30 AM
Continue to follow with keen interest :-)

I don't suppose you were able to, erm, borrow LR's approach with respect to the bead? That is, something that holds on to the rubber to the point of causing the local tyre shop to swear profusely when changing tyres?

Strangely enough, the actual bead profile for steel rims is strictly laid out in the various ISO standards that needs to be followed to ensure it passes standards. This includes an internal rib to keep the tyre on the rim in the event of deflation as well as the actual size of the air chamber and slope on the steel to ensure the tyres can be fitted properly. The area around the bead itself has set sizes that need to be adhered to so i wasn't able to change much in that area on a steel rim.

The alloy allows a bit more freedom due to the construction than the steel as the steel is a continuous thickness (if that makes sense)

BritishCarComponents
31st July 2017, 05:55 PM
Hi there apom,

Not that we get a huge call on them (mostly workshop/trade customers) but we get a few inquiries and just had another private customer asking for a set of steelies for his D4 last week!

If you are interested to display one in our shop for locals to view IN REAL LIFE, we would happily display for you.

We love supporting innovative forumites & vendors!!!

Hoo-Roo, Dave.

apom
10th August 2017, 08:28 AM
Hi there apom,

Not that we get a huge call on them (mostly workshop/trade customers) but we get a few inquiries and just had another private customer asking for a set of steelies for his D4 last week!

If you are interested to display one in our shop for locals to view IN REAL LIFE, we would happily display for you.

We love supporting innovative forumites & vendors!!!

Hoo-Roo, Dave.

Awesome, thanks for the support Dave, when they are landed I will get in touch

cheers
Andrew

Stuart02
10th August 2017, 12:13 PM
How far from first deliveries do you think you realiatically are?

apom
11th August 2017, 07:45 PM
Delivery still slated for September at present. As soon as the preproduction tests are completed I will post updates. Fittings hopefully occuring next week

apom
24th August 2017, 06:54 PM
Update on the TuffAnts.


There have been a few minor setbacks on the modelling process. No biggies, it just meant we need to get the tools re-engineered to make sure it was perfect. The obvious impact is time.


The next samples are due to be made next Monday, with finishing and painting to occur thereafter. As part of TuffAnts quality control, I will personally make an inspection at the factory next week on Tuesday or Wednesday.


If they meet the expected quality standard, 2 things will occur - 1 set of wheels are sent to OZ to test fit, use, and take photos on the car with tyres on and use, the other set is sent for the official testing for corner and fatigue testings. These testings actually set the final loads on the rim and are undertaken with assistance from our Australian engineer supervising and verifying the processes to the various standards (there are lots as we are also going DOT for use in the USA as well as AU and ISO). All going well, the wheels will be on a car in AU in the first week September.


When all those boxes are ticked, we will then finally be in production which takes 30 days plus shipping and customs, another 15 days. This gives us a new final date of landed in AU in the middle of October.


So overall we have now lost about 30 days. My apologies for the delay to those who have ordered, I understand how super keen you are to hit the off-road in a set of TuffAnts, we are too, but I won’t cut corners on the quality.


For those who have ordered in good faith pre-production, as a thank you for your patience there will be an added small surprise in addition to the discounted price I will reveal soon.


I would also like to thanks everyone that has supported me with this endeavour, as always, what starts as an easy thing has taken a long time to get to completion but we are nearly there

justinc
24th August 2017, 08:34 PM
Certainly intetested in some graphite 18"s to suit my l322...☺☺☺.
Also very keen to be an agent or contact for Tasmanian sales through my LR repair shop☺..

Jc

DNB
31st August 2017, 12:55 AM
I've put my order in for 5 Steel Wheels..... can't wait to get them :)

BTW, I have 4 x 19" 2015 D4 Factory Alloys For Sale now ;)

apom
2nd September 2017, 02:33 PM
TA-DA!!!

Well, it's finally here. The final pre-production TuffAnt 18 fitting, checking and tyre fitment took place today on a Land Rover Discovery 4 with great success.


This is the final pre-production sample that was part of the initial batch, 1 for test fitting as seen here and the others for the cornering and fatigue testing that takes place to certify final loads for production use.


There are a couple of tooling marks on these pre-production items that are a normal part of the process and will be cleaned up prior to production.


This is the final satin black paint finish in double thickness and is how the final production items will look in addition to


- Stamping to conform with various standards
- 5 x solid end 22mm chrome wheel nuts
- 1 Plastic centre cap


A huge thanks to the members that helped today with the test vehicle as mine in for repairs and the donation of a test tyre. A big thanks also to Tyre Power at Capalaba for instant tyre service today.

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DNB
5th September 2017, 01:31 PM
TA-DA!!!

Well, it's finally here. The final pre-production TuffAnt 18 fitting, checking and tyre fitment took place today on a Land Rover Discovery 4 with great success.


This is the final pre-production sample that was part of the initial batch, 1 for test fitting as seen here and the others for the cornering and fatigue testing that takes place to certify final loads for production use.


There are a couple of tooling marks on these pre-production items that are a normal part of the process and will be cleaned up prior to production.


This is the final satin black paint finish in double thickness and is how the final production items will look in addition to


- Stamping to conform with various standards
- 5 x solid end 22mm chrome wheel nuts
- 1 Plastic centre cap


A huge thanks to the members that helped today with the test vehicle as mine in for repairs and the donation of a test tyre. A big thanks also to Tyre Power at Capalaba for instant tyre service today.

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Will we be able to fit the stock Land Rover Center Caps on these?

Garfield
5th September 2017, 04:45 PM
I've only just found this thread and feeling a bit ticked off.

I paid all that money for those Compomotive wheels and now the 18" steel wheels become available for my D4 . [bawl]

bjasch94
5th September 2017, 05:26 PM
They look good, I'm very keen.

Did you get any photos from further back with the entire car in the picture?

sported
5th September 2017, 06:37 PM
I've only just found this thread and feeling a bit ticked off.

I paid all that money for those Compomotive wheels and now the 18" steel wheels become available for my D4 . [bawl]

I wouldn't feel too bad, those Compo's are nice and light, and lightness doesn't come cheap! I've ordered the TuffAnt's, but if I keep adding stuff to the car I'll need to shed some weight (or offset with $$$$ & lithium & then alloy)... I'm getting close to the GVM and don't really want to spend the extra cash, but would prefer to stay on the good side of 3175kg...

These'll be awesome though if you aren't scratching for capacity or generally not too bothered about GVM.


They look good, I'm very keen.

Did you get any photos from further back with the entire car in the picture?

+1, would be interested to see a pic with more of the Disco.

LRD414
6th September 2017, 10:13 AM
I'll jump in with a couple of answers ....


Will we be able to fit the stock Land Rover Center Caps on these?
No but a plastic centre cap is being worked on. I've seen a CAD mock-up and it looks pretty good.


Did you get any photos from further back with the entire car in the picture?
The test wheel was fitted to my D4. There was only one wheel available for test fitting so no photos taken from further back. We raised the front axle and did full rotation of wheel on the driveway followed by driving out onto the street and checking full steering articulation (lock to lock).


These'll be awesome though if you aren't scratching for capacity or generally not too bothered about GVM.
Regarding weight and GVM etc I wouldn't rely too much on saving weight by going from a steelie to alloy. At 17.4kg for the steelie, the weight difference is only around 3-5kg per wheel and it is unsprung mass. Not sure if you meant load rating but the steelie is the same or higher than comparable alloys.

Regards,
Scott

TuffRR
9th September 2017, 09:09 AM
Any hints as to how long the pre-order special prices will continue to run? Just working on approval from Minister of Finance now....[wink11]

apom
21st September 2017, 08:10 PM
There is a cap being developed that will cover the hub, more to follow.

Better picks will also come soon, stay tuned

apom
21st September 2017, 08:16 PM
Any hints as to how long the pre-order special prices will continue to run? Just working on approval from Minister of Finance now....[wink11]

the ending of pre-order prices will be notified once in final production. I will update here also

justinc
21st September 2017, 08:38 PM
Really keen to find out if tge offset etc will suit my l322😎

apom
23rd September 2017, 03:28 PM
Happy to report the all clear for the Discovery Series 5 platform as shown in the pictures below. It also really tuffens (I think i just invented a new marketing word https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/909.jpg:D) the look of the D5 up. There was lots of ooohing are aaaaring.

Sadly for the 2011-2012 L322 TDV8 Range Rover with the LARGE Brembo package it was a fail. The wheel fits on but its an interference fit with contact points both on the rim and the disc face so if you have one of those models, sadly we cannot assist at this point. I will update the website in the coming days.

A huge thanks to Paul Muskat and Chris Munday for bringing there vehicles over to try. If there are other users of pre-update (before 2011) Range Rovers in Brisbane I would love to hear from you to see if they work

Last 2 photos are the 2011-2012 Range Rover TDV8 break package for your reference that does NOT fit.

We are also happy to update on the pre-production testing. We have had a week of minor issues sorting between the different standards, loadings, as well as productions restrictions in China at present (its long story but many factories have been unable to open for the past 2 weeks due to an environmental crackdown going on at present). As soon as we are clear of these tests i will update everyone one.

For those that have tried to contact me on messenger, my apologies for not getting back to everyone, its been a huge week and still trying to get on top of things.

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TB
5th October 2017, 08:27 AM
Out of curiosity, what size tyre was used in those D5 shots? It looks a bit small overall in those arches.

More importantly, will an ARB internal TPMS sensor fit the Tuff Ant wheels OK? It's the type that replaces the entire valve stem, not the type that wraps around the wheel.

apom
5th October 2017, 09:11 AM
Wheel Caps – As you can see in the photos below, we are happy to demonstrate our TuffAnt Wheel Cap. This is our final 3D printed wheel cap that will be available with the wheels. For all pre-purchase buyers these are included free of charge, as a thanks for patience and trust in placing orders before the final items are ready. Whilst the part itself is a low value item, to tool something specific for low volume part is dearer than most would realize but we believe it is necessary to complete the look. Remember this is just a 3D print, the final cap will have the TuffAnt logo and name in the flat section in the middle, it will be black and smooth in nature. The recess in the centre is actually specifically designed as the same size as the OEM Land Rover caps that come on the alloys, so for those who prefer, can get a copy set from eBay and stick them on directly into the space. This does require breaking off the tabs on the back, but it gives people the option of leaving the TuffAnt name or swapping to the Land Rover caps to create their own custom look.

Testing - At present we have had some delays with the testing. There is no single reason for this, a mixture of the current production restrictions in China, multiple standards we are aiming to meet, the material selection, and now the Mid-Autumn festival which means most of China is closed between Oct 1-8. As soon as the final tests are completed and we are into production I will update here.

Production – Obviously, the testing delays means we have had production delays, now looking at November delivery with a date to be confirmed as soon as we move into production. When the production date is set, the promotion prices will have a set end date and again, we will notify people well in advance. My thanks again to those that have pre-purchased and whilst the delays are frustrating for all of us, we won’t cut corners on the final product.

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apom
5th October 2017, 05:03 PM
Out of curiosity, what size tyre was used in those D5 shots? It looks a bit small overall in those arches.

More importantly, will an ARB internal TPMS sensor fit the Tuff Ant wheels OK? It's the type that replaces the entire valve stem, not the type that wraps around the wheel.

It was the same Mickey Thomson 265/60 R18.

I havent tried an ARB sensor on it as yet, if someone has one in Brisbane happy to give it a go

TB
5th October 2017, 09:22 PM
It was the same Mickey Thomson 265/60 R18.

Ah, that explains it. 30.5” is a half inch bigger than normal on D4 (looks tough) and half inch smaller than normal on D5 (looks... wrong). Nothing to do with the wheel.


I havent tried an ARB sensor on it as yet, if someone has one in Brisbane happy to give it a go

In another thread about TPMS I learned that the ARB are a variant of the steelmate product. I think Scott has those.

TuffRR
22nd October 2017, 02:40 PM
Any updates on these? Looking forward to getting a set.

apom
2nd November 2017, 05:36 PM
Design complete https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/11/34.jpg
Prototypes complete https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/11/34.jpg
Major compliance passed https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/11/34.jpg

Production here we come !!!

Barring any unforeseen issues, we are now production ready for the TuffAnt 18s. Importantly, to complete all the tests for Australia, North America, and Europe we have an adjusted load rating of 1000kg per rim.

Production timing is 30-45 days then about 2 weeks to get them to Australia, through customs and to our customers that have already ordered. We are working with the factory for a pre-Christmas delivery. The timing is tight, but we will keep everyone posted when the shipment is on the water.
A huge thanks to all the support from members with loan tyres, 3D printing, styling advice, engineering assistance, and of course all your valued opinions https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/11/35.jpg;-). We may be a little biased, but we think the final product looks MINT!

Note: The only variation from the photos will be specific 22mm chrome capped nuts, not the ones for the alloys used in these shots.

One final note, the Special Pre-Production pricing will conclude on Sunday November 12.

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TB
3rd November 2017, 07:30 AM
What does the load rating mean in practice? D4’s with a bit of gear are often >3t, and then you go for a bit of wombat hole action where one or sometimes even two wheels are off the ground. We’re not expecting the wheels to fail in those circumstances, right?

Tombie
3rd November 2017, 08:58 AM
In practice there is a safety factor.

Wheel loading must equal or exceed maximum axle loading.

loanrangie
3rd November 2017, 03:01 PM
They look good fitted to a vehicle, well done.

2012 Lux
3rd November 2017, 11:49 PM
I think they look great, thanks for the updated pictures. I've orderd them earlier and have been watching the progress so can't wait for them to arrive. Thankyou for all your efforts with getting these over the line.

Mushi P
9th November 2017, 10:05 PM
Awesome. Just paid up, can't wait!

apom
13th November 2017, 09:31 AM
A huge thanks to all that have placed orders taken advantage of the TuffAnt pre-production pricing. All the tests are now passed and we are in the production queue. As soon as we have a firm completion date we will advise.

apom
10th December 2017, 02:07 PM
You can now order Chrome or Black nuts to go with your TuffAnt Wheels. These are included at no extra cost and shipped with all TuffAnt Wheels, that also includes the TuffAnt centre wheel cap.

Simply nominate your preference at time of order in the "Add Note" section on your shopping cart.

For people with existing orders, we will be in contact with you to get your preference locked-in prior to shipping.

At present, production is still underway and we anticipate completion by the end of the month. As soon as we have a confirmed date, we will advise.

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RHS58
12th December 2017, 10:03 AM
Looking good.
i assume you’ll have a Tuffant logo on those centre caps?

apom
27th December 2017, 04:50 PM
Looking good.
i assume you’ll have a Tuffant logo on those centre caps?

yes!

justinc
27th December 2017, 06:31 PM
Just checking in to see if anyone did end up giving you an l322 series rr to trial fit? Pretty interested if they will fit my 06.


Jc

apom
28th December 2017, 09:47 AM
Just checking in to see if anyone did end up giving you an l322 series rr to trial fit? Pretty interested if they will fit my 06.


Jc


We have someone doing a test fit in the next week or so in Melbourne, stay tuned!

justinc
28th December 2017, 10:11 AM
We have someone doing a test fit in the next week or so in Melbourne, stay tuned!

Thanks!!
I will keep an eye out! Will it be with the 19" rim model with brembo brakes?

Jc.

Graeme
28th December 2017, 06:55 PM
I understood that a MY12 with the 6-pot Brembos was tried but failed to fit.

justinc
28th December 2017, 07:02 PM
I understood that a MY12 with the 6-pot Brembos was tried but failed to fit.

Ah ok that isn't a biggy for mine. They run 20s. Mine are same as l322 3.6 tdv8 and supercharged 4.2. Only 4 pot calipers.

Graeme
28th December 2017, 07:41 PM
They can run a specific RR 19" and D4 19" also fit.

rar110
28th December 2017, 09:04 PM
We have someone doing a test fit in the next week or so in Melbourne, stay tuned!

Where in Brisbane are you. I could possible provide my L322 tdv8 3.6 for a rest fit.

apom
29th December 2017, 04:04 PM
Where in Brisbane are you. I could possible provide my L322 tdv8 3.6 for a rest fit.

I am Brisbane West, sadly the TDV8 is no go, we tried one already :(

apom
29th December 2017, 04:05 PM
Great news today with confirmation from the factory for the production completion scheduled to occur between Jan 13-15. On those dates we will do a final inspection and measure, and assuming the all clear is given, we are then on a fast ship to Brisbane.

For all those that have supported us with purchases, please check your email for further details

We are very excited about the pending new arrival :D

Graeme
30th December 2017, 03:40 PM
I am Brisbane West, sadly the TDV8 is no go, we tried one already :(
The MY07-09 TDV8 (3.6) has smaller front brakes than MY11-12 (4.4). MY10 TDV8 (3.6) has 3.0 D4 size.

discomatt69
1st January 2018, 07:12 AM
Are there any extra sets of rims coming in or just the pre ordered batch? I have a 3.0 D4 and would like a set of 6 before a trip at the end of April 2018

Disco4Dave
2nd January 2018, 06:51 AM
Are there any extra sets of rims coming in or just the pre ordered batch? I have a 3.0 D4 and would like a set of 6 before a trip at the end of April 2018

Like you, I would like a set of wheels in a few months and so I just asked Tuffant about availability on new orders and they replied:
"We still have stock available for the shipment arriving at the end of January."
I have just ordered a set of 5.

apom
9th January 2018, 04:41 PM
Just to confirm, 1st shipment is in production completion now, due for final inspection this weekend then shipping to Brisbane, arriving Jan 29. There is still stock available from the first shipment

lukeau
11th January 2018, 05:37 PM
Any near future plans for grey/graphite colour? If so, happy to pre-order.

Edit: Sorry, forgot to say - the wheels look fantastic! I fully expect I will go this route for my (newish) D4.

apom
17th January 2018, 06:48 PM
Any near future plans for grey/graphite colour? If so, happy to pre-order.

Edit: Sorry, forgot to say - the wheels look fantastic! I fully expect I will go this route for my (newish) D4.

We can do other colours in the future for sure. I am toying on the idea of doing some graphite/grey for the next shipment

apom
17th January 2018, 06:50 PM
Production complete 🙌
All tests passed https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/01/613.jpg
Wheel caps donehttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/01/614.jpg
Wheel nuts in stock (black already sold out) https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/01/615.jpg
Curry Carry Bags sorted ✔️
This is it folks, TuffAnt is set to sail the seas next week! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/01/616.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/01/617.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/01/618.jpg
Team #TuffAnt (https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/tuffant'source=feed_text)

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Tombie
17th January 2018, 07:16 PM
Congratulations and all the best mate!

DiscoClax
17th January 2018, 07:20 PM
+1 Great job :)

apom
5th February 2018, 07:16 PM
The TuffAnt ship docked today. Woot Woot!!! Stock into the warehouse on the weekend. Negotiating with local freight companies as we speak. Interstate deliveries commence Monday.

tony_j_dean
7th February 2018, 05:29 PM
Whats a Curry bag?

Milton477
7th February 2018, 05:55 PM
Well done. Watching with interest.

Disco4Dave
8th February 2018, 03:21 PM
I have a set of D697's (265/60R18) on order and they will be fitted to the Tuffant rims soon after they arrive, hopefully late next week, followed by some action on the weekend. Maybe we need a "Tuffants in action" topic for posting pictures :-)

DrOsteo
11th February 2018, 08:45 AM
Looking at getting a set of these but wondering if anyone knows if there is a BFG KM2 in a size that will fit a 2016 D4 (preferably with no rubbing but happy to do some slight mods if required and don't care about having a deflated spare)?

LRD414
11th February 2018, 10:05 AM
Looking at getting a set of these but wondering if anyone knows if there is a BFG KM2 in a size that will fit a 2016 D4 (preferably with no rubbing but happy to do some slight mods if required and don't care about having a deflated spare)?
Sadly no, not even close for KM2s.
I am considering two MTs to fit to my set of Tuffants:
Achilles Desert Hawk and Monsta Mud Warrior

These will be my second set of 18s so have the luxury of KO2s for touring and an MT for day trips focused on technical/difficult terrain.
Both are available in 265/60 and 286/60 but I don't know how big the 285/60 will be fitted.
The 265/60 Achilles looks larger than the same size in KO2, particularly on width so the 285 would concern me & would need test fitting.
I'll be continuing with 265/60 for flexibility of spares.

ACHILLES RADIAL (http://www.achillesradial.com/tire/passenger/17/Desert-Hawk-XMT)
Monsta Tyres - Terrain Gripper & Mud Warrior 4X4 Tyres (http://monstatyres.com/products/)

I was lucky enough to see the first two sets fitted to vehicles yesterday; KO2s in 265/65 and the Achilles in 265/60:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/02/291.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24dTmfZ)

Cheers,
Scott

apom
11th February 2018, 10:21 AM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/02/293.jpg

apom
11th February 2018, 10:23 AM
First deliveries in Brisbane yesterday. Interstate deliveries commence this week

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/02/292.jpg

DrOsteo
11th February 2018, 10:32 AM
They look great.
For those that have been running ko2s on 18s, may I ask how long they've been lasting. Reading mixed reviews. Used to get 100k it of my km2

scarry
11th February 2018, 06:42 PM
They look great.
For those that have been running ko2s on 18s, may I ask how long they've been lasting. Reading mixed reviews. Used to get 100k it of my km2

What vehicle?
What size?

DrOsteo
11th February 2018, 06:51 PM
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What vehicle?
What size?A Hilux. Not sure of size but obviously bigger than we can fit on a disco

scarry
11th February 2018, 07:28 PM
A Hilux. Not sure of size but obviously bigger than we can fit on a disco

With a D4,as it has independent suspension all around,is heavy and powerful,if you get over 75K you are doing very well.
With something like a Hilux,or aD1/ D2,mileage of around 90K plus is achievable.

Depends on driving style,type of driving as well,road surfaces,tyre pressures,etc,there are a lot of variables.

DrOsteo
11th February 2018, 07:31 PM
With a D4,as it has independent suspension all around,is heavy and powerful,if you get over 75K you are doing very well.
With something like a Hilux,or aD1/ D2,mileage of around 90K plus is achievable.

Depends on driving style,type of driving as well,road surfaces,tyre pressures,etc,there are a lot of variables.Thanks mate. Understand I'm not going to get the mileage I did from my bigger km2s but am interested in what people are getting from their ko2s on 18s as I've read some very mixed reviews about the rubber being particularly soft.

LRD414
11th February 2018, 07:41 PM
.... but am interested in what people are getting from their ko2s on 18s as I've read some very mixed reviews about the rubber being particularly soft.
Not the right thread or forum section for tyre feedback. Plenty of tyre threads covering the KO2 in the D3/D4 section.

Scott

Mushi P
11th March 2018, 02:30 PM
New wheels look great. New tyres D697s. No increase in road noise and noticeably more comfortable on road. Can't wait to get them muddy!

andhad
20th April 2018, 11:15 PM
Has anyone had any issues with these fitting the D5 yet?

apom
21st April 2018, 06:12 AM
Has anyone had any issues with these fitting the D5 yet?

Hi Andrew, PM sent

apom
21st April 2018, 07:38 AM
The D5 Option for these wheels is still in engineering. Without going into too much detail, we have a different offset for the D5, however, after late modifications to the rim material we are holding onto these until we are more comfortable with the outcome on the D5 and the rear brake, as well as legality in some states in Australia. Everyone that got these for the D5 should have been contacted, if you have not been contacted and have purchased for a D5 please send me a PM and we will get in touch and explain the complete situation over the phone.

I have requested the thread name be updated also to avoid any confusion from the moderators.

Again, if there are any questions on these please don't hesitate to get in touch.

cheers
Andrew

LRD414
21st April 2018, 08:10 AM
I have requested the thread name be updated also to avoid any confusion
Done.

DiscoClax
22nd May 2018, 04:11 PM
Has anyone fitted these to something running the same 4-pot Brembos as an L320 3.6 TDV8? Andrew's not 100% sure they'll fit on mine. I know the caliper weights will need to be ground/reversed/removed, but other than that...? Can anyone verify one way or another, please?

Tombie
22nd May 2018, 10:17 PM
Has anyone fitted these to something running the same 4-pot Brembos as an L320 3.6 TDV8? Andrew's not 100% sure they'll fit on mine. I know the caliper weights will need to be ground/reversed/removed, but other than that...? Can anyone verify one way or another, please?

The whole “grind remove” thing is the reason these special alternative wheels exist for D3,D4.

Because grinding the brake calliper is illegal (and obvious).

If you’re willing to do that - almost any aftermarket wheel will likely fit!

DiscoClax
23rd May 2018, 05:21 AM
Not going to grind the caliper. No way. Talking about the weights bolted on for NVH which are easily removed or reversed.

My understanding is that there is no 18" wheel that will fit without tackling those little stick-out bits?

Graeme
23rd May 2018, 05:39 AM
IIRC an AULRO member had Compomotives fitted to his MY09 3.6 TDV8 L322 which has the same 4-pot Brembos.

DiscoClax
23rd May 2018, 01:27 PM
I'm pretty confident that the Compomotives will fit. That's been done repeatedly. My query is specific to the TuffAnt 18" steel wheels and compatibility to the 4-pot Brembos as used on the 3.6 TDV8 on L320. I believe that some D3/4s had the exact same brake package (3.0 V6 diesels?) so has anyone done it? My Compos have been delayed a few times and the latest timing is tight so I'm looking at potentially getting a set of steelies as a quick solution. Andrew has advised he has good stock ready to go. Just waiting on confirmation they'll fit before pulling the trigger.

Tombie
23rd May 2018, 01:48 PM
Perhaps reach out as Chops did above and go for a quick drive?

rar110
23rd May 2018, 05:03 PM
My 3.6 L322 with Compos.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/05/355.jpg

LRD414
23rd May 2018, 05:43 PM
I can’t confirm by direct experience with the brake calliper in question but I can say that my Tuffant wheels have the same or perhaps very slightly more clearance than my Compos to my D4 3.0L callipers. I measured both myself and the clearance appears larger to the steel wheel, not by much and not easily done so I can’t say how much difference exactly.

Scott

Chops
23rd May 2018, 06:31 PM
Perhaps reach out as Chops did above and go for a quick drive?


I didn't end up "trying" them on my car, but just sat them beside to see if we liked how they looked. However, if there is no one closer to you that you can try a physical fitment with,, maybe Dalil might come to the party again. He's a very helpful guy.

DiscoClax
23rd May 2018, 06:52 PM
I didn't end up "trying" them on my car, but just sat them beside to see if we liked how they looked. However, if there is no one closer to you that you can try a physical fitment with,, maybe Dalil might come to the party again. He's a very helpful guy.Thanks guys. Gordon today committed to getting my Compo's to me by mid - June so I should be OK for the trip. No need to go out of your way to verify this for me now. If the TuffAnt's will definitely fit where the Compo's do that's good enough for future reference :)

apom
29th May 2018, 08:26 PM
Don't wait six months and countless chasing for your new 18" wheels!

Get you wheels delivered Australia wide within 7 days (metro areas). You can now use your Credit at Checkout @ www.tuffant.com

Toolsman8
31st May 2018, 10:35 AM
How much do they cost?

TuffRR
1st June 2018, 09:58 AM
Fitted them this morning in preparation for long weekend trip in the high country...

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DiscoClax
7th June 2018, 12:10 PM
Update....

I got a set of Tuffant's delivered Tuesday night, off to the tyre place Wednesday to fit up 285/60R18 muddies. Dropped them off with the car (getting RWC) and.... they don't fit! The caliper (Brembo) outer face rubs on the wheel inner face ('spokes'). Plus the two weight blocks on the calipers clash also, but they are easily unbolted and reversed to clear.

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--> So I can confirm that the Tuffant 18s will not fit on a MY08 TDV8 L320 with Brembo 4-pots. <-- :(

A thin spacer of 3mm ish would likely do the job, but that's not a solution for me.

So I have a set of brand new Tuffant wheels with brand new Achilles Desert Hawk X-MT tyres (LT285/60R18) that need a new home and my bank account replenished somewhat. I'll put them up in the Marketplace today.

101RRS
7th June 2018, 12:17 PM
If the seller of the wheels advertised that they fit your model and they don't then surely they have an obligation under the consumer law to sort this out for you.

Have you discussed this with the seller?

Garry

DiscoClax
7th June 2018, 12:33 PM
Hi Garry,

Andrew was quite up-front that he wasn't sure if they'd fit or not. I took the gamble myself so not on him at all. Sooooooo close to fitting it hurts, but alas. You live and learn and now the forum has another data point of what the Tuffant's do and don't fit, and also an opportunity to get a new set a bit cheaper :) Sometimes you are the bug, sometimes the windshield. Today I was the bug. Such is life.

101RRS
7th June 2018, 01:07 PM
Ok - thats good from the consumer perspective - I guess after the event it is easy to work out how you could have done things differently and I am sure you have gone through all that yourself.

I hope you do well with the sale.

Good Luck.

Garry

DiscoClax
7th June 2018, 01:20 PM
Thanks Garry. Worst part was they looked really good and I was all excited.... But now I'm a bit sad :(

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Meccles
11th June 2018, 07:15 PM
Jezzz I don’t know a set of 3mm spacers easily obtainable well that seems a possibility 🧐

Tombie
11th June 2018, 07:38 PM
Jezzz I don’t know a set of 3mm spacers easily obtainable well that seems a possibility 🧐

A set to suit a Discovery 5 should work perfectly.

Graeme
11th June 2018, 08:59 PM
I suspect that a version with more offset to match D5 specs would use the same centre so would also foul.

DiscoClax
11th June 2018, 09:09 PM
The tooling for the centre disc part is mighty expensive so I suspect the same. 'Just' weld the rim on at a different offset for the D5. So not much hope there...

Meccles
12th June 2018, 04:00 AM
You can buy spacers 3mm from Autobarn that should fit for about $20 a pair. They have heaps of different sizes both hubs/ spacing etc. Be surprised if you couldn’t find something to fit.

Meccles
12th June 2018, 04:05 AM
This link to a sample of what’s available
Speco 4-5 Stud 3mm Wheel Spacers (pr) (https://www.autobarn.com.au/speco-4-5-stud-3mm-wheel-spacers-pr-ws3000)

Tombie
12th June 2018, 07:50 AM
You can buy spacers 3mm from Autobarn that should fit for about $20 a pair. They have heaps of different sizes both hubs/ spacing etc. Be surprised if you couldn’t find something to fit.

Just don’t get caught [emoji41]

DiscoJeffster
12th June 2018, 10:19 PM
Just don’t get caught [emoji41]

I have taken cars through inspection before with spacers without issue. The key is they must be securely fastened to the hub and wheel bolts/studs meet minimum thread engagement or new bolts/studs used to offset the change. Also the wheel must still be contained within the body of the vehicle.
Ones the simply sit there aren’t technically legal as you indicate.

Admittedly it’s also possible regulations have changed over the past 20 years.

101RRS
12th June 2018, 10:50 PM
No mate - you might have got away with it but unless they are a OEM fit they are simply illegal in all states.

For an expensive vehicle it is just not worth the hassle if there is an accident and you get caught out.

DiscoJeffster
12th June 2018, 11:35 PM
No mate - you might have got away with it but unless they are a OEM fit they are simply illegal in all states.

For an expensive vehicle it is just not worth the hassle if there is an accident and you get caught out.

Don’t get me wrong. I wouldn’t go there for my Disco [emoji106]

apom
2nd July 2018, 01:01 PM
Update on the Discovery 5 TuffAnt 18s

Firstly, thanks to all for your patience on an update. These things always take longer than expected but we need to ensure we get this right each time. This has been made harder sadly due to the changing part numbers for the rear brakes on the new D5. With reports of different callipers being fitted it’s been hard to know exactly what will and won’t work.

A huge thanks to all the people that have helped with photos, part numbers, test fittings, from all over Australia and the UK.

The long story short is that we need to engineer a new rim profile from scratch. The disc face will look the same as the current wheel, with about a 20mm less offset (so the wheel is about 20mm further out than the current wheel). This process takes about 60 days plus the production time, so we are looking about 90-120 days before the wheels would be in Australia depending on when we can fit in the production cycle.

The good news is that the new wheels will also build on some improvements from the current wheel. They should be a higher load rating (simply due to the less offset) and we have made other minor improvements to make them a little easier to balance.

From next week TuffAnt will have the new wheel available for pre-order on the website. Those willing to pre-order will receive a special reduced price. As with the first wheel, these Pre-Orders come with a moneyback guarantee if we can’t deliver as promised or you change your mind prior to the arrival.

Chops
9th July 2018, 07:48 PM
Happy chappy tonight,, just ordered my new rims,, now for tyres to suit [biggrin]

Bytemrk
9th July 2018, 07:53 PM
Marcus, I reckon they will look great on your car as well as giving you the benefits of 18"

Chops
9th July 2018, 08:05 PM
They looked good against the Blue when I sat a set beside the car. I think they'll look good on it. I'm going to put the Falken Tyre's on and see how they go. They're AT's, so not too aggressive, about the same I guess as the Nitto's I had, so shouldn't be noisy, and should have plenty of grip when I need it. And yes, best of all, extra sidewall to be able to let them down properly. [wink11]

apom
9th September 2018, 05:03 PM
A huge run on stock in the last 2 weeks has taken us by surprise, thanks everyone for their support and orders.

We are are now taking PRE-ORDERs for the next shipment which will be in December. The increase in orders and the factory at capacity sees us out of stock for a short period. As we will all pre-orders, we are applying a 10% discount.

Stay tuned for a new colour option with the next order!

Turtle800
17th November 2018, 05:55 AM
A huge run on stock in the last 2 weeks has taken us by surprise, thanks everyone for their support and orders.

We are are now taking PRE-ORDERs for the next shipment which will be in December. The increase in orders and the factory at capacity sees us out of stock for a short period. As we will all pre-orders, we are applying a 10% discount.

Stay tuned for a new colour option with the next order!

Hi there - have sent messages via the website and insta page about delivery costs to Melbourne but haven't had a response. What's the best way in touch about the Tuffant rims? Thx George

DiscoClax
17th November 2018, 06:59 AM
Hi there - have sent messages via the website and insta page about delivery costs to Melbourne but haven't had a response. What's the best way in touch about the Tuffant rims? Thx GeorgeMaybe drop Andrew (apom) a PM directly? He was always pretty quick to respond.

apom
26th February 2019, 09:57 PM
Our next shipment wheels has finally arrived and the backorders complete. Thanks to everyone for theirs support and orders.

We now have them available in 2 colours and also for Discovery 5.

As always if there are any questions please don't hesitate to send me a PM or email to info@tuffant.com

Pedro_The_Swift
27th February 2019, 05:27 AM
and the second colour would be? [bighmmm]

cjc_td5
27th February 2019, 10:27 AM
and the second colour would be? [bighmmm]The website mentions black and charcoal. I couldn't find any photos though.

Trevor Cock
27th February 2019, 07:47 PM
Received my charcoal rims last week. Tyres to be fitted this Friday. Colour is similar to the grey compomotives, the centre caps are black and the nuts chrome.Will be fitted to a Fuji white D4 so I am much happier with the charcoal option.
Trevor.

Tankmat
27th February 2019, 07:49 PM
Here’s a couple of photos from the Tuffant FB pagehttps://www.aulro.com/mobile-gallery/8ed7554e7022a533802dae596b6fbd10.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/mobile-gallery/1f746d4cc009fe902b2c5b04f6de0723.jpg

cjc_td5
27th February 2019, 09:10 PM
Received my charcoal rims last week. Tyres to be fitted this Friday. Colour is similar to the grey compomotives, the centre caps are black and the nuts chrome.Will be fitted to a Fuji white D4 so I am much happier with the charcoal option.
Trevor.Hi Trevor. I would be very interested to see any photos of the charcoal wheels on a white D4, when you get them fitted.
Cheers,
Chris.

apom
1st September 2020, 06:19 AM
Our new Gen 2 18" Steelies are out of production and on their way to Australia, UK and USA. Thanks to all who have pre-ordered for their patience. (Email notification coming)

With new tooling, upgrades to the production process and welding processes, upgraded paint finishes, new packaging, as well as our own TuffNuts wheel nuts we cant wait to see these things on your pride and joy.

Pre-Order pricing will end soon so if you havent ordered theirs still time to do so and save 10%.