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Only ever owned landys Ed
9th July 2017, 10:12 AM
Hi All,
I have a 2015 130.
What is the best lift kit to get?
Price is no issue.
Cheers,
Ed
1nando
9th July 2017, 12:41 PM
This has been covered a thousand times...
Do you understand the consequences of a 50mm lift?
Why do you need a 50mm lift in the first place?
discoRRc
9th July 2017, 01:22 PM
This has been covered a thousand times...
Do you understand the consequences of a 50mm lift?
Why do you need a 50mm lift in the first place?
consequences?
LouNat58
9th July 2017, 01:27 PM
Yeah! What consequences?
Only ever owned landys Ed
9th July 2017, 02:50 PM
I'm confused too. I carry a fair load in the old girl (up to 1250kg in the tray).
Only ever owned landys Ed
9th July 2017, 02:59 PM
I'm confused too. I carry a fair load in the old girl (up to 1250kg in the tray).
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/07/3.jpg
trout1105
9th July 2017, 03:20 PM
It looks like you need a set of rear air springs that you can adjust when carrying that much weight.
I think that if the Coppers saw you with that load they would probably book you, I don't know what the Max weight allowable is for your truck but 1250kg plus whatever the tow ball is carrying would be excessive.
weeds
9th July 2017, 03:24 PM
50mm lift won't solve your problems.....
Maybe remove the inner rear spring and fit air bags
I would also move the two IBC's a little further back on the trailer to remove some tow ball weight.
Only ever owned landys Ed
9th July 2017, 03:30 PM
Didn't hit the road with that. Just moving stuff around the farm.
1nando
9th July 2017, 05:12 PM
A 50mm lift in a puma requires a DC prop shaft and radius arms to be done properly. Some on here may argue the above but it's well document throughout this site. I suggest removal of the inner springs and air bags. A puma already had more than enough lift from factory. I replaced my shocks with bilstein b6 items and hd genuine LR springs all round.
mike_beecham
9th July 2017, 05:17 PM
I have had the inner springs removed and fitted air bags. Problem solved.
Factory height.
"Lifting" PUMA Defenders is a nightmare...
TimNZ
9th July 2017, 05:55 PM
From my experience, (your mileage may vary), the sweet spot for the front of a "Puma" is a bump stop clearance of 90mm. You can get away with 95mm, but you might find the drive train feels sloppier. At 100mm the front prop unis will start talking to you.
LR HD springs on a 110, even with a bar and winch, are too much. I've found the Les Richmond Automotive "rangie pink" springs will get the front back up to 90mm bump stop clearance after fitting a bar and winch. The spring rate is a bit too soft, but unless you get custom springs made they are the only off the shelf springs that work, (for me anyway).
On the rear I run airbags and have not had any drive train issues with having the height above or below standard, except that the car wallows if the bag pressure gets to low, (as you would expect).
My 2c, unless it's a weekend toy vehicle, don't lift it.
Cheers,
rar110
9th July 2017, 07:18 PM
Consequences? Start with unis and steering. I agree with the above. Simple solution is air bag support for coils. Better solution for your varying load is full rear air spring like most trucks these days.
djam1
11th July 2017, 11:07 AM
Might be wise to have a look at those tray mounts while you are at it
austastar
11th July 2017, 11:14 AM
Hi,
If I remember correctly, for my single cab D130 the total load is 1700 kg.
Cheers
djam1
11th July 2017, 04:15 PM
Hi,
If I remember correctly, for my single cab D130 the total load is 1700 kg.
Cheers
I just thought the angle of the tray is a little odd that said it could be the angle that the photo was taken from.
I understand that the tray mounting is critical with the 130 with a number of them cracking the chassis
Not saying it is a problem just looks a little odd and could save some pain if a problem is caught early
MLD
18th July 2017, 04:07 PM
Some of the comments below should be reviewed/re-read in light of the fact that a 130 has HD springs fitted and bump stop clearance about 1" taller than a 110 (with standard coils) in the front, and similar extra clearance for the rear. The Puma 90 front bump stop clearance is 15mm taller than the 110 and 1" taller in the rear than the 110. Those advocating problems with lifting a Puma (without delineating between the models) are bound to create confusion and misinformation. A D130 Puma does not have drive line vibrations and IMO lifting another inch will have little effect on induced vibrations. I have a 4" lift in mine with stock swivel balls so it's all relative.
The other thing to consider, a 50mm lift in "marketing" terms is not necessarily a 50mm lift on a D130. Most "lift" packages use a higher coil rating with the same free length so you can use standard shocks without dislocation of the coil. Most "lift" packages use the 110 as the benchmark for measurements. Long and short you likely end up with no actual lift and a firmer ride.
If you want a 50mm lift ignore the packaged products and look for coils with 50mm longer free length with the same/similar coil rating as the factory (front is 220 lbs/in and rear 420 lbs/in). you will end up with similar ride characteristics and an actual 50mm lift over your D130 factory height. On this approach it is advisable to go with +50mm travel shocks to match the extra travel of the coil. I've deliberately ignored the discussions about raised shock mounts for longer shocks but that is another step if you wanted to farther.
If the OP carries that much weight on a regular basis a pair of air helpers would go a long way to levelling the rear.
Having spent more than sensible amounts of money on my 130's suspension, if i had my time again i'd keep the factory coils with quality shocks and take advantage of 33" rubber and a pair of diff locks when progress is stopped.
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