Road side drug and Alcohol testing in our area today

[Roverlord off road spares]

Normally you see the booze buses set up and they move from location to location after a certain period.
Today I passed through Fern tree gully and they were there all day. I passed them a couple of times during the day, there was a bit of a traffic delay as they funneled 3 lanes into 1. I got tested at 3.30 pm
I commented to the cop that they have have been putting in a few hours today and replied they started at 8am.
We do get a lot of day trippers up here and with many the establishments serving alcohol, we get quite a few boozers on the road.

[Ean Austral]

There is a cop that sits on the road behind my work on average 3 mornings a week. Same cop , same place , sits there from about 7am till about 8am. you cant see him till you come round the corner so your stuck once your on there. Seen him get about 10 punters this year .


I got no problem with it , too many idiots on the road as it is, don't need them ****ed and / or stoned as well.


Cheers Ean

[Bytemrk]

Good to see them taking these clowns off the road in my view...

Trouble is half of them don't have a license to take away in the first place and don't seem to care...

[cripesamighty]

Exactly right Mark. Looking at some recently released figures, the boozers and the unlicensed are responsible for the vast majority of fatalities on our roads.

But she'll be right mate, lets just buy another speed camera because that will fix it.

Cynical you say..... who me? [biggrin]

[Roverlord off road spares]

Good to see them taking these clowns off the road in my view...

Trouble is half of them don't have a license to take away in the first place and don't seem to care...
Many years ago I worked for a company that had an alcohol culture. Heaps of the guys got pinged for drunk driving, did licence loss stop them or learn them a lesson. NO IT DIDN'T they just drove unlicenced a still drank. I did not fit in well as I didn't drink so I was classed as the outcaste by them and was the butt of their jokes.

[cripesamighty]

I worked in a department like that Mario. Transferred out of there not long after I started!

[Eevo]

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[Pickles2]

All good I reckon.
I particularly like the camera/gadget that checks number plate/owners relative to unpaid fines/warrants etc. Driver has to pay on the spot, or he loses his/her car,..which is entirely appropriate IMHO.
It was on the news this week how many toll fees/fines/warrants etc of all kinds remain unpaid.
Pickles.

[Roverlord off road spares]

All good I reckon.
I particularly like the camera/gadget that checks number plate/owners relative to unpaid fines/warrants etc. Driver has to pay on the spot, or he loses his/her car,..which is entirely appropriate IMHO.
It was on the news this week how many toll fees/fines/warrants etc of all kinds remain unpaid.
Pickles.
Pickles, I sister got pulled up twice by cops at one of those plate recognisers, and there were unpaid fines. But it was not hers, it was the previous owner. Even though the ownership had changed, the system doesn't appear to care. The cops told her to get new number plates, which she did and hasn't been stopped since. She was however not happy having to pay for new number plates .

[loanrangie]

i think i have only been brethalised maybe 5 times in my life and never drug tested , oddly we have a 0% drug/alcohol policy at work even though i work in an office.
Instant dismissal if i read 0.001 .

[Milton477]

I was breathalyzed in Gin Gin on the Bruce recently. Reading was 0.001 & I don't drink. I was using a spray to stop smoking however. Cop said that will do it every time.

[V8Ian]

I was RBTed in Innisfail, five minutes after finishing a 12 hr shift. Got asked the usual questions, have you been drinking, to which I honestly answered in the negative. I blew 0.02!
Not a problem the cop said, but I objected, explaining that had he got me 1/4 of an hour earlier I would have been driving a B double, with a zero level. We went through all I had eaten and drunk in the previous 12 hours and he said that I'd consumed nothing that should have given me a reading. He went on to explain that the roadside test is merely a guide and that the machine at the police station is accurate.
So, lonerangie which breathalyser would be used to give you the DCM? Not the tens of thousands of dollar machine they have at the police station, I'll bet.
A single dose of some cough medicines will give a reading, as will many everyday, innocuous foods.

[Gordie]

I was RBTed in Innisfail, five minutes after finishing a 12 hr shift. Got asked the usual questions, have you been drinking, to which I honestly answered in the negative. I blew 0.02!
Not a problem the cop said, but I objected, explaining that had he got me 1/4 of an hour earlier I would have been driving a B double, with a zero level. We went through all I had eaten and drunk in the previous 12 hours and he said that I'd consumed nothing that should have given me a reading. He went on to explain that the roadside test is merely a guide and that the machine at the police station is accurate.
So, lonerangie which breathalyser would be used to give you the DCM? Not the tens of thousands of dollar machine they have at the police station, I'll bet.
A single dose of some cough medicines will give a reading, as will many everyday, innocuous foods.Which is why I advise my co-workers, that if they ever return a positive reading...to go and get a blood test. Those handheld breath readers can give varying results.

[austastar]

Hi,
Blew zero after a meal and a red wine lasting 1 hour.
I expected a low reading, but not zero.
Cheers

[ramblingboy42]

Which is why I advise my co-workers, that if they ever return a positive reading...to go and get a blood test. Those handheld breath readers can give varying results.

that is what police do if the hand held unit tests positive......you cannot be charged from the hand held result.

[Gordie]

that is what police do if the hand held unit tests positive......you cannot be charged from the hand held result.In this state, they then put you on the breath analysis instrument in the van or at the station. Those instruments are accurate and regularly tested for same. The result of that, is what you are charged with. You are then offered a blood test kit to take to a medical practitioner for an independent blood test, which is at your own doing and choice. Police don't do blood tests or have them conducted, other than if you are hospitalised after being a driver involved in a vehicle collision.

[Gordie]

that is what police do if the hand held unit tests positive......you cannot be charged from the hand held result.But I probably wasn't clear in my original statement...about co-workers...I was referring to the workplace testing which in some instances seems to rely on the handheld ones, which are not always accurate. Which is why I advise them to always get a blood test. We even recently had a worker test positive to a workplace drug test, he knew it was wrong, went and got an independent test and was cleared.

[cripesamighty]

I remember about 3 years ago being at Perth Airport where a bunch of FIFO guys had to do an unannounced drug/alcohol test before they boarded their aircraft - common enough. One of the much older guys came out with a positive alcohol reading and they stopped him from boarding the aircraft. He was told they had to report it to his workplace, with serious consequences ensuing. He was absolutely livid as he said he was a teetotaler and hadn't eaten/drank anything in at least 10 hours. The testing people basically said 'tough **** buddy' and packed up and left him there and he looked crushed.

Overhearing all this I told him to go to Royal Perth Hospital, explain the circumstances and get a blood test straight away (it was 4.30am and at least RPH would be open). He then raced out of the place. I saw him again the next morning around the same time and he was in much better spirits and thanked my profusely. He got his blood test results (which cleared him of any alcohol in his system) and handed them in to the office. It seems that the testers used the hand held units only and had no facility for more accurate readings - unlike the Police.

So if you were like this poor bugger and got a false-positive, there was no backup option, unless someone gave you a CYA (cover your ass) option in case you didn't think of it yourself. He ended up getting their SOP's for this changed as it had unfortunate employment consequences if you got pinged. The testing guys (outside contractors) got a right royal rocket up their butts as well.

[Eevo]

I remember about 3 years ago being at Perth Airport where a bunch of FIFO guys had to do an unannounced drug/alcohol test before they boarded their aircraft - common enough. One of the much older guys came out with a positive alcohol reading and they stopped him from boarding the aircraft. He was told they had to report it to his workplace, with serious consequences ensuing. He was absolutely livid as he said he was a teetotaler and hadn't eaten/drank anything in at least 10 hours. The testing people basically said 'tough **** buddy' and packed up and left him there and he looked crushed.

Overhearing all this I told him to go to Royal Perth Hospital, explain the circumstances and get a blood test straight away (it was 4.30am and at least RPH would be open). He then raced out of the place. I saw him again the next morning around the same time and he was in much better spirits and thanked my profusely. He got his blood test results (which cleared him of any alcohol in his system) and handed them in to the office. It seems that the testers used the hand held units only and had no facility for more accurate readings - unlike the Police.

So if you were like this poor bugger and got a false-positive, there was no backup option, unless someone gave you a CYA (cover your ass) option in case you didn't think of it yourself. He ended up getting their SOP's for this changed as it had unfortunate employment consequences if you got pinged. The testing guys (outside contractors) got a right royal rocket up their butts as well.


he could also sue for unfair dismissal if he didnt go to the RPH.

[Roverlord off road spares]

Hi,
Blew zero after a meal and a red wine lasting 1 hour.
I expected a low reading, but not zero.
Cheers
There was a segment on that RBT tv show. A guy pulls up at road side in NSW, with an open scotch bottle on passnger seat, he was doing a long haul drive in his car. his eyes looked like he had been drinking. He told the cop he had been drinking and driving as he needs a drink for the long trip.
The breath test was negative, , the cop thought hand held was faulty so wanted a retest, again negative on another machine , then got him to walk the line, the driver passed. Cops let him go but made him empty the drink first. go figure.

[cripesamighty]

My ex used to drink and drive on a regular basis (both day or night). There was no telling her, so as a default I ended up driving whenever there would be booze present. For the first 6 months her family actually thought I couldn't drink more than 2-3 beers in an evening! Buggered if I know how she got/gets away with it. I'm still waiting for the day I see her face show up on TV on RBT though!