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DiscoMick
8th August 2017, 02:56 PM
According to this, a robot could only do 18% of my job, so that's a relief. I must have a few clues, after all. How about you?
Artificial intelligence and automation: Could a robot do your job? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-08/could-a-robot-do-your-job-artificial-intelligence/8782174)
Vern
8th August 2017, 03:37 PM
Hmmm now i am an electrician, and apparently a robot could do 41% of my job! I would love to see a robot get a ladder off the roof of my van, set it up at a man hole in someones house, climb into the roof and start running cable and fitting lights etc...
I call BS on this
Mick_Marsh
8th August 2017, 03:54 PM
No, but, the work I do is being shipped offshore to places like India, Thailand and Malaysia.
That partially explains why we are getting buildings built with flammable cladding and asbestos ceiling tiles.
And plant with silicone welds.
Homestar
8th August 2017, 05:24 PM
My current jobs not even on there so safe for the moment. ;)
And in reality, by the time one could, it would mean they could do any human job and while I have no doubt that could happen way off in the future, it doesn't concern me.
I'm a Sparky by trade too and as Damien says, there's no way a robot could turn up to a site, run a cable through the roof, fit it off and fill out the COES and submit it - they struggle to even get the things to walk around a room without falling over.
debruiser
8th August 2017, 05:28 PM
19% for me.... I can't believe it's that low. I'm a music teacher so kids don't listen to me... they could do that with a computer [biggrin][biggrin][biggrin][biggrin]
I'm currently training to become a musical instrument repairman. Apparently that's 56%!!!!!
Mick_Marsh
8th August 2017, 06:34 PM
Well, that's odd.
It says 13% of my job can be done by automation. Then it goes on to list the processes that can be automated. The processes listed have zero relevance to what I do. Someone stuffed up that program. Typically, they either put in bad data or the AI algorithms failed.
gusthedog
8th August 2017, 07:38 PM
I've got a job for local government with many different roles in emergencies and Local Laws. Supposedly part off the automation of one of my jobs as a dog catcher will be "studying details of musical composition". I mean after my catch pole and leather gloves, musical composition would have to be next... [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
trog
8th August 2017, 07:48 PM
I would like to see it happen . The current computer system can't even get the stock levels and location correct for the pickers. For us drivers often the business address and name is wrong. Those that rely on the gps often take longer routes or don't find the address given. A few lessons on map book usage and warehousing might have cost the company a lot less than the current system , or the upcoming scan and sign devices that have been a failure in recent tests.
Yes being made redundant looks likely.
Slunnie
8th August 2017, 07:55 PM
Only 22% dam it! Means I have to keep working.
PAT303
8th August 2017, 07:58 PM
Registered Nurse,16%.So who wants to line up for an injection by a robot?. Pat
cuppabillytea
8th August 2017, 08:11 PM
My job, apparently, is not under threat but I can imagine inexpensive systems that would make my current job, obsolete.
Whist searching for my job I noticed a couple of other jobs that could easily be robotised but are not considered under threat.
What I found interesting was, that jobs which involve the creation and dissemination of bovine excreta are almost not under threat at all but the arts come in at around 50%. An artistic robot in a very interesting concept.
Homestar
8th August 2017, 09:25 PM
Put in Technical Sales Rep which is the closest I could get to, but everything listed as either being able to be automated and what wasn't isn't even stuff I do, so pretty **** survey - maybe they need to automate it...
But a plain old Sales Rep is only 7%? No idea how they work this out. I'm sure if my job could be automated, my company would sack me I a second, but they still insist I show up each day...
DiscoMick
9th August 2017, 09:38 AM
So here's a more detailed breakdown of what jobs could be done by robots. Apparently male jobs are generally more under threat than the jobs of females, who are said to be more creative and interpersonal.
Artificial intelligence: Men's jobs face higher risk of automation than women, low-paid workers also at risk - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-09/ai-automation-men-and-lower-paid-workers/8741518)
Mick_Marsh
9th August 2017, 01:36 PM
Checkout operators at low risk to automation!
These numpties that decided this clearly haven't shopped at Bunnings, Big W, Kmart, Woollies, etc. where the self service checkouts proliferate.
87County
9th August 2017, 01:40 PM
100% of my job could be done by a robot - I'm retired and a pensioner ....
Wonder if I'll get a redundancy ?
I'll not bother claiming because Centrelink would want it all....
bee utey
9th August 2017, 01:54 PM
Checkout operators at low risk to automation!
These numpties that decided this clearly haven't shopped at Bunnings, Big W, Kmart, Woollies, etc. where the self service checkouts proliferate.
Our local supermarket has ripped out most of theirs, the last two are opposite the 12 or less counter so they can be better monitored for dodgy customers. Good staff (when you can get them) are worth more than a crappy machine.
Ausfree
9th August 2017, 02:01 PM
100% of my job could be done by a robot - I'm retired and a pensioner ....
Wonder if I'll get a redundancy ?
I'll not bother claiming because Centrelink would want it all....
I'm semi-retired as a pensioner so that part is the same as you, 100% done by robot. I also work part time as a bus driver which has a rate of 41% which I would have thought would be higher with driverless cars coming soon. So driverless buses won't be far behind. Won't worry me as I will be fully retired very soon.
DiscoMick
9th August 2017, 03:07 PM
Our local supermarket has ripped out most of theirs, the last two are opposite the 12 or less counter so they can be better monitored for dodgy customers. Good staff (when you can get them) are worth more than a crappy machine.
Huge fraud rate on self-service checkouts, I read. Many people cheating the scanners by either not scanning or by only scanning cheap products. Honesty is not that common, apparently. They still have to pay staff to monitor the customers are doing the right thing, so they might as well have the staff operate the checkouts.
I wouldn't use them for two reasons:
They put real people out of jobs
I might be accused of cheating
Hopefully, this is a victory for people over machines.
lyonsy
9th August 2017, 05:28 PM
apprently half of my job can be done by a computer, fudged if i know how its going to but since i am a diesel mechanic [bigwhistle] apprently half of my job is looking at manuals accord into the survey lol if i am lucky we have a manual on whatever it is i am working on lol
Tank
9th August 2017, 05:53 PM
Registered Nurse,16%.So who wants to line up for an injection by a robot?. Pat
Or a digit exam for prostate problems, **** no, Regards Frank.
JDNSW
9th August 2017, 09:51 PM
I'm retired, mostly, so I looked up jobs I used to do and the honorary one I still do. Jobs I used to do can be 44% done by machine - but the tasks that are listed as being done by machine are not ones that I did, nor are most of the ones listed as still left to be done by humans. Whoever designed the algorithm clearly has no idea what most jobs actually entail.
However, I do think that the general thrust is correct. A lot of the jobs that people do today will be at least partly replaced by smart machines in the future. But really, is this anything more than we have seen all our lives? and our parents? Think about it.
When I entered the workforce, there were only about half a dozen computers in Australia, electronic calculators did not exist, photocopiers did not exist, fax machines hardly existed. Just in this very limited field, think about how many jobs have disappeared? How many typists are working today? My first job title was "computer", which meant what it said - I did calculations with a pencil and paper, and these were checked by another "computer".
As technology improves, more jobs are lost, but in fact this is something that has been happening ever since the start of the industrial revolution. Maybe a bit faster today, but still the same sort of thing.
Go back another generation, and think of all the cleaning staff put out of work by vacuum cleaners, and all the labourers put out of work by forklifts, ostlers, farriers etc put out of work by motor transport, lamplighters by electric light, stokers by mechanical stokers.
I don't really see it as something particularly new. It has resulted in a lot more leisure time for ordinary workers in my lifetime. Working hours per week have possibly increased slightly, but consider that when I started work, most people started work at fifteen, today few start before their early twenties, often mid twenties. When I started, almost nobody got more than two weeks annual leave, long service leave was available only to a very few who worked more than fifteen years with one of a few large employers. So the average working hours over a lifetime are definitely significantly less.
DiscoMick
10th August 2017, 08:26 AM
Our neighbor had a heart operation by a robot. She said at least she knew the robot wasn't drunk!
donh54
10th August 2017, 10:13 AM
Maybe the only saving grace will be that increasing energy costs may eventually make it cheaper to employ a person rather than a machine
DiscoMick
10th August 2017, 10:57 AM
I remember reading an Asimov story in which each person lived separately, surrounded entirely by machines, and only communicated with other humans remotely. As I remember, they were very unfulfilled with their lives. So I guess the most necessary jobs in the future will be those which involve contact between humans. We are social animals.
Mick_Marsh
10th August 2017, 01:39 PM
I remember reading an Asimov story in which each person lived separately, surrounded entirely by machines, and only communicated with other humans remotely. As I remember, they were very unfulfilled with their lives. So I guess the most necessary jobs in the future will be those which involve contact between humans. We are social animals.
Ah, yes. I think that might have been the short story "Little Lost Robot".
I'll have to read it again.
From what I remember, they were very happy working for the betterment of society in isolation on an asteroid. They did socialize with other humans via a 3d video link. I didn't get the impression they felt unfulfilled. I always thought it was a utopian dream.
Mick_Marsh
10th August 2017, 01:52 PM
Our neighbor had a heart operation by a robot. She said at least she knew the robot wasn't drunk!
The thing is, in surgery, the robots are controlled by surgeons. The surgical robots are not autonomous.
As of April 2017, autonomous surgical robots were still in the realms of science fiction. It will be a long time before any are approved for human use.
Accept for a second that robot surgeons exist. Who will check they're up to the job – and how? • The Register (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/20/medical_robots_need_autonomy_classifications/)
carjunkieanon
11th August 2017, 10:50 PM
Apparently robots could replace a mere 14% of what I do. Even better, on reading the list of tasks easy to automate I didn't recognise any of them as part of my job. On the strange side, I didn't recognise the 86% of my tasks that a robot can't do either!
I must be in the wrong job.
cuppabillytea
11th August 2017, 11:21 PM
No, but, the work I do is being shipped offshore to places like India, Thailand and Malaysia.
That partially explains why we are getting buildings built with flammable cladding and asbestos ceiling tiles.
And plant with silicone welds.
I wouldn't be too worried Mick. Jobs that flowed off shore from the US are beginning to trickle back. I'd imagine that the same will happen here. Apparently it's due to increasing wages in India and Asia, incompatible time zones, and a high level of customer dissatisfaction.
DiscoMick
12th August 2017, 08:13 AM
Even the Chinese are building new plants in Myanmar and Vietnam to cut costs. Fly into Yangon and it is surrounded by new Chinese-controlled factories
cuppabillytea
12th August 2017, 09:29 AM
I remember reading an Asimov story in which each person lived separately, surrounded entirely by machines, and only communicated with other humans remotely. As I remember, they were very unfulfilled with their lives. So I guess the most necessary jobs in the future will be those which involve contact between humans. We are social animals.
If you look up Social workers you will sea that they are least likely to be robotised.
Mick_Marsh
12th August 2017, 10:30 AM
Even the Chinese are building new plants in Myanmar and Vietnam to cut costs. Fly into Yangon and it is surrounded by new Chinese-controlled factories
The Chinese are building new plants here. There's one over the road from where I work.
When you go into the place, the first thing that strikes you is all the signs are in Chinese. All the labelling on the control systems are in Chinese. All the people working there are Chinese.
I could tell you some stories about the place but here is not the place.
Wraithe
12th August 2017, 11:39 AM
Could a robot have done my job, not on your life...
Read that it could do 48% of the work... Umm the work it could do I didnt have or took less than a minute...
One thing it could not do, is load the trailers from a site... Ummm, my loads could be picked up 40 miles past the black stump or left at the salt lake with the dead tree in the middle...
If computers get to be too much and start controlling things that annoy the hell out of you, then solution is, "Read Tesla"... He developed a device that can interrupt the flow of electricity, just turn it on and live in peace, with a dash of very quiet... You may actually hear nature then...
ramblingboy42
12th August 2017, 12:47 PM
When I was working a robot could not have done my job, in fact sometimes I repaired robots.
DiscoMick
12th August 2017, 09:06 PM
I'm not sure a robot would want to do my job. Robots aren't good with people.
trog
15th August 2017, 12:46 AM
I'm not sure a robot would want to do my job. Robots aren't good with people.
Just like me 🤔
Guess that's why I work in a team of one.
1950landy
15th August 2017, 08:22 AM
I don't think so I am a Retired Grand Dad with two daughters & two son in-laws who don't know which end of a screw driver is the handle so have to be multi skilled. :Rolling::Rolling: So what can I get a Robot to do so I have more time for Landy[bighmmm]
DiscoMick
15th August 2017, 11:51 AM
In my work I choose computerized activities which students do, and sometimes prepare my own, so I don't think a robot could do that, particularly as I have to judge which activities are relevant to the particular students.
Milton477
15th August 2017, 12:08 PM
I am the bloke doing the automation....Robots still need programming.
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