air Suspension

[knares]

Hi
I have asked about this on another forum
air Suspension



The air Suspension is not working properly and is on the stops
The light on the control knob is off and on the dash, it tells me the suspension is not working.
With my icarsoft, I have a fault saying, “too much energy for regulation needed rear left”
I cleared the fault and the rear of the vehicle rose up
I don’t know if I waited long enough but I thought the front was not going to rise so I switched it to off road position, that didn’t seem to make any difference so I switched it to normal road height and the front immediately rose to the off road height.
Both front and rear are now in off road position
No matter what position I put the switch in, the suspension stays in the off road position
At the same time, with the switch in the normal road height, the touch screen shows the suspension in normal height
I put the switch in the lowest position but it stayed in the off road position so I drove it through the gully at the side of the road a few times and it has come down to properly less than normal road height but not to the stops.
I am thinking the problem is “too much energy for regulation needed rear left”
But what does that mean and where do I go now
thanks

[donh54]

Not sure what model RR you have, but with my P38 I use a Nanocom to cycle through the different heights, leave it on access height, then turn it off and go have a cuppa. Next start, things are usually ok for another couple of months or so

[p38arover]

I know he has an L322 (like me, he's also on the FullFat RR Forum) so I've moved it to the correct area.

[p38arover]

I am thinking the problem is “too much energy for regulation needed rear left”
But what does that mean and where do I go now


Sounds like a leak in the left rear. I had the similar message with a leak in the front.

It's not an uncommon error message as you will see when you Google it.

[knares]

thanks
i never thought of googling it

how do i put my vech delails at the botom of my post
thanks

[p38arover]

I don't think you can have a signature file (like mine) unless you are a subscriber, I.e., paying an annual membership fee to the forum.

have a look at your profile -> About Me to see if there is the Signature option.

[knares]

Well, I googled it, everything points to a leak it seems.
Having read lots of posts, I am well aware that a leak doesn’t mean the suspension will necessarily sag.
So maybe I have a leak.
Would that stop the vehicle going to the access position?
At the moment, the touch screen says it is in access position.
The control knob light is in the access position and won’t let me change it
The vehicle height looks to be in normal drive position.
The icarsoft diagnostic tool does not show any faults
The “too much energy for regulation needed rear left” has not returned.
thanks

[Roverlord off road spares]

I ha a glitch on mine did a silar thing , so I used iidtool to disable the air suspension and then clicked re-able airsuspension and it solved my issue. but you only have a code reader /resetter. It reset what ever glitch I had at the time.

[donh54]

Another (longer term) option is to get hold of an EAS Kicker, sold by BBSGuy (on this forum). I leave that in the glovebox for the missus to use if I'm not around. Simple three step process to use.

[p38arover]

Another (longer term) option is to get hold of an EAS Kicker,

The EAS Kicker is for the RRC and P38A EAS, not L322.

I'm not sure which year model knares' L322 is so I can't make definitive suggestions for diagnostic gear.

There is the BlackBox Solutions MSV-2 Hardware - BLACKBOX SOLUTIONS LTD (https://blackbox-solutions.com/shop/category/faultmate-msv-2-hardware) but, for early models, the software might be too expensive for him.

For later models the BlackBox Solututions Nanocome Evolution Welcome - NANOCOM Diagnostics (https://www.nanocom-diagnostics.com/) is a good option.

Alternatively, for all models the Gap Diagnostics IID Tool is also worth consideration. Diagnostic tool for Land Rover - Gap Diagnostic (https://www.gap-diagnostic.com/)

[donh54]

The EAS Kicker is for the RRC and P38A EAS, not L322.

Oops, my bad !

[knares]

The EAS Kicker is for the RRC and P38A EAS, not L322.

I'm not sure which year model knares' L322 is so I can't make definitive suggestions for diagnostic gear.

There is the BlackBox Solutions MSV-2 Hardware - BLACKBOX SOLUTIONS LTD (https://blackbox-solutions.com/shop/category/faultmate-msv-2-hardware) but, for early models, the software might be too expensive for him.

For later models the BlackBox Solututions Nanocome Evolution Welcome - NANOCOM Diagnostics (https://www.nanocom-diagnostics.com/) is a good option.

Alternatively, for all models the Gap Diagnostics IID Tool is also worth consideration. Diagnostic tool for Land Rover - Gap Diagnostic (https://www.gap-diagnostic.com/)

I have a HawkEye, how does that compare with the Gap diagnostic
I have to buy the license for my vehicle which is about au$400
My RR is a 2005 model

[p38arover]

I have a HawkEye, how does that compare with the Gap diagnostic

Sorry, I've never played with a Hawkeye.

[rar110]

$400 is almost the cost of a IID tool.

[knares]

$400 is almost the cost of a IID tool.

Yes, that’s why I was wondering if the hawkeye was superior.
At the moment I can buy the license for the hawkeye for $325au on ebay
but if the gap was better, i would rather buy the gap tool

[rar110]

The BT IID tool has a lot of features. More than I use. I have altered the CCF using mine and used it to monitor voltage EGTs and other temps simultaneously. Importantly to identify and clear fault codes. Which the Hawkeye does.

I have a phone holder on the dash so can use it like an extra set of instruments while driving. BT means no cord from the IIDTOOL to my phone.

IIDTOOL also emails fault code lists so you can keep a record.

[JR1]

Yes, that’s why I was wondering if the hawkeye was superior.
At the moment I can buy the license for the hawkeye for $325au on ebay
but if the gap was better, i would rather buy the gap tool

Island4x4 have the unlock codes for around $250 / £145 online at the moment. Don't have to pay tax as it's being sent outside the Uk. Last I checked, postage was around $15. But they can probably just email you the unlock code. (I know Bearmach have said they can just email it). Might be worth a try.

[Chilly]

The BT IID tool has a lot of features. More than I use. I have altered the CCF using mine and used it to monitor voltage EGTs and other temps simultaneously. Importantly to identify and clear fault codes. Which the Hawkeye does.

I have a phone holder on the dash so can use it like an extra set of instruments while driving. BT means no cord from the IIDTOOL to my phone.

IIDTOOL also emails fault code lists so you can keep a record.

Hi, what do you do about the gap tool and catching it with your foot whilst driving?

[rar110]

It is a nuisance. Scott LRD4 on here bought a few extension cords. The OBD plug is smaller than the IID TOOL, and at a right angle, so that helps.

[Chilly]

It is a nuisance. Scott LRD4 on here bought a few extension cords. The OBD plug is smaller than the IID TOOL, and at a right angle, so that helps.

Right angle...that would help heaps. Have the look into that.

Thanks

[Roverlord off road spares]

Hi, what do you do about the gap tool and catching it with your foot whilst driving?
On the L322 how does you foot catch it ? the IIdtool dongle sits up neatly in the OBD cubby hole, your foot shouldn't hit it unless your some sort of contortionist driving a car.

[Chilly]

On the L322 how does you foot catch it ? the IIdtool dongle sits up neatly in the OBD cubby hole, your foot shouldn't hit it unless your some sort of contortionist driving a car.

Mines a sport

[rar110]

On the L322 how does you foot catch it ? the IIdtool dongle sits up neatly in the OBD cubby hole, your foot shouldn't hit it unless your some sort of contortionist driving a car.

G'day Mario, not sure about yours but the OBD socket on the 08 L322 is above the accelerator pedal so when the hatch is open and IID Tool is in my right foot snags on it a bit. More of a nuisance than show stopper.

[rar110]

On the L322 how does you foot catch it ? the IIdtool dongle sits up neatly in the OBD cubby hole, your foot shouldn't hit it unless your some sort of contortionist driving a car.

G'day Mario, not sure about yours but the OBD socket on the 08 L322 is above the accelerator pedal so when the hatch is open and IID Tool is in my right foot snags on it a bit. More of a nuisance than show stopper. Here's the cord.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/08/333.jpg

[discorevy]

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Another option, the flat cable tucks out of the way , I have mine coming out at the steering column I think it's the same as lrd 414 , it's good for most stuff except CCF changes as the thin cable gives some volt drop

[p38arover]

G'day Mario, not sure about yours but the OBD socket on the 08 L322 is above the accelerator pedal so when the hatch is open and IID Tool is in my right foot snags on it a bit.

My ScanGauge is plugged in all the time and I've never caught my foot on it. (Maybe the earlier L322 has it better placed than the 08 :D )

(I could make a comment about your profession here. [bigwhistle] )

[rar110]

Only on the beach Ron. [emoji48]
I'm also a Land Rover owner - always willing to adapt.

[Roverlord off road spares]

Mines a sport

Sorry Chilly, I presumed yours was a L322 as posted in the L322 section, Sports are L320.
Cheers, Mario

[Chilly]

Sorry Chilly, I presumed yours was a L322 as posted in the L322 section, Sports are L320.
Cheers, Mario

Sorry, I am bad...just see the air suspension title. Mine is a sport and the connection is above the pedals....not the best place for leaving connected. Knocked it a few times whilst test driving.

[knares]

Island4x4 have the unlock codes for around $250 / £145 online at the moment. Don't have to pay tax as it's being sent outside the Uk. Last I checked, postage was around $15. But they can probably just email you the unlock code. (I know Bearmach have said they can just email it). Might be worth a try.

thanks, that a lot cheaper, now to make a decision

[Roverlord off road spares]

The features on the iidtool like being able to record live data and then save and email it and the ability to graph things to view later. I found is a bonus over the Bearmach hawkeye.
Also being able to mutli info displayed on the one screen is an advantage also. I think the support for the iidtool is better also.
Cheers, Mario

[Roverlord off road spares]

G'day Mario, not sure about yours but the OBD socket on the 08 L322 is above the accelerator pedal so when the hatch is open and IID Tool is in my right foot snags on it a bit. More of a nuisance than show stopper.
It must be different on the later years, on my 2003 it sits inside the cubby hole for the OBD and doesn't protrude. I have the IIdtoolBT which is a dongle and it hides in the OBD compartment.,
or do you have the older version with cable?
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[knares]

The features on the iidtool like being able to record live data and then save and email it and the ability to graph things to view later. I found is a bonus over the Bearmach hawkeye.
Also being able to mutli info displayed on the one screen is an advantage also. I think the support for the iidtool is better also.
Cheers, Mario
thanks, that is what i wanted to know
what do you use with it, i see it dosent work with windows, do you use your iphone???
am i right in thinking it is locked to the vin
thanks

[p38arover]

There's one for sale in the Markets.

[Roverlord off road spares]

thanks, that is what i wanted to know
what do you use with it, i see it dosent work with windows, do you use your iphone???
am i right in thinking it is locked to the vin
thanks I works with Android phones and tablets, yes vin locked for your vehicle . There are some vids on the net showing it's use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6VMODAMDUo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwyWRqtpnAA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNG1So7J-7k

[Graeme]

I think the support for the iidtool is better also.Gap's support is great! A couple of new features were added because I needed them when retro-fitting an e-diff and adaptive cruise control to my L322. For a fee the tool can be used to update the software in a control module (eg gearbox) to the latest level.

[rar110]

Here's the OBD socket location on the MY08 L322. The problem is more the cover hanging down when open.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/08/460.jpg