Qld rules on Rear lights on D2

[MickG]

I am in the process of getting a rear bar made for my '99 D2 and am wondering if I will get away with replacing the side pillar light clusters with the newer model disco clusters - which have the indiscators in them.
At the moment my rear bar has the fogs and indicator lights in it with the reverse & brake lights in the piller cluster, so, with the rear bar lights gone, I need to get the indicators in somewhere.

Other alternative is to fit some slim line lights - either the reverse or indicators - into the new rear bar, but if I can get them all on the side pillar clusters that would be good....a small bit of rewiring either way.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

[Slunnie]

I dont see why it'd be a problem using the D2 updated lights. The wiring is slightly different though.

I ended up rewiring mine, and putting yellow bulbs into the reverse light part of the cluster (you need to file off 1 pin on the globe) so it becomes the indicator.

[disconut]

Originally posted by Slunnie

I ended up rewiring mine, and putting yellow bulbs into the reverse light part of the cluster (you need to file off 1 pin on the globe) so it becomes the indicator.

I did the same thing to my SII. Then fitted a small halogen driving light as a reversing light. (55w makes a great reversing light).

Trev.

[stevo]

did the same thing as slunnie plus mounted two small 55w spotties on each corner of the bumper great for reversing at night plus very noticable
during the day.

Fitting the later D2 lights in the piller should still be legal as long as you mount reversing lights, in the bumper should be fine and if you use spots run them through a relay as the reverse switch does not handle the extra current.

[Steinzy]

as long as you have indircators, reverse lights, and stop lights you won't have a problem with Dept of Transport

[Slunnie]

The other thing to look for is the lights also comply with the visibility guidelines which includes viewing angles. The conversion that we all seem to have done seems to comply with this as far as I know, with the only potential hiccup being the angle across the spare tyre of all things. This is only relevant though if you have a bigger spare.

[MickG]

Thanks guys

After some more research it appears that if I do add any lights to the rear bar they have to be flush mounted and visible from a 30 degree side angle. Still might end up putting the newer Disco cluster on the pillars though as I would like the indicators as visible as possible. The lights that end up on the rear bar will be slim line and obviously not as visible.

Aye, Mick

[Redback]

Hey MickG i thought of the later Disco cluster too, but i went for the Pajero lights, as they look pretty good, the reason was the bar lights would have to be fog/reverse which is hard to find unless you use the later Disco ones.
The $$$$ start to get up then and it's not worth the expence and time really, the Paj oneS take 1 minute to take out and put in.
Another option are the LED lights that are out now, i saw some at Caravan accessories/Camec they mount from the outside and are nearly flush mounting as they are only 1/2inch thick.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Pajero lights

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Baz.

[MickG]

Originally posted by Redback
Hey MickG i thought of the later Disco cluster too, but i went for the Pajero lights, as they look pretty good, the reason was the bar lights would have to be fog/reverse which is hard to find unless you use the later Disco ones.
The $$$$ start to get up then and it's not worth the expence and time really, the Paj oneS take 1 minute to take out and put in.
Another option are the LED lights that are out now, i saw some at Caravan accessories/Camec they mount from the outside and are nearly flush mounting as they are only 1/2inch thick.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Pajero lights

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Baz.

Thanks Baz, can I ask is that 100mm or 75mm box section.....looks like 100mm. Mine is being made from 75mm box and is going to have a tubular bar section coming off the back to increase the step area if that makes sense. At the moment LED lights seem to be the go and I will do away with the fogs, but that's got me thinking whether I need to bring the tube section as far along the rear as I initially thought.....mmmmmm....never cut and dry is it :roll:

I see you have also left your exhaust alone, do you find you catch it a bit off road? I am going to take mine back a bit and re-route it somehow....well when I say I, I mean an exhaust guy is going to do it for me https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ Still, good looking bar and I like the little turn down angle section on the sides, that should give you a good bit of strength if you hit them?

Cheers for the help, Mick

[Redback]

Originally posted by MickG+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MickG)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Redback
Hey MickG i thought of the later Disco cluster too, but i went for the Pajero lights, as they look pretty good, the reason was the bar lights would have to be fog/reverse which is hard to find unless you use the later Disco ones.
The $$$$ start to get up then and it's not worth the expence and time really, the Paj oneS take 1 minute to take out and put in.
Another option are the LED lights that are out now, i saw some at Caravan accessories/Camec they mount from the outside and are nearly flush mounting as they are only 1/2inch thick.
http://www.camec.com.au/images/3029-161.jpg

Pajero lights

http://www.d2au.com/modules/Gallery/albums/album69/Disco_mods_033.sized.jpg

Baz.

Thanks Baz, can I ask is that 100mm or 75mm box section.....looks like 100mm. Mine is being made from 75mm box and is going to have a tubular bar section coming off the back to increase the step area if that makes sense. At the moment LED lights seem to be the go and I will do away with the fogs, but that's got me thinking whether I need to bring the tube section as far along the rear as I initially thought.....mmmmmm....never cut and dry is it :roll:

I see you have also left your exhaust alone, do you find you catch it a bit off road? I am going to take mine back a bit and re-route it somehow....well when I say I, I mean an exhaust guy is going to do it for me https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ Still, good looking bar and I like the little turn down angle section on the sides, that should give you a good bit of strength if you hit them?

Cheers for the help, Mick[/b][/quote]

Yep it's 100mm i started with the 75mm but found that i had no step up room, mainly because of how close mine is to the rear of the car.
With the 7 degree instead of Slunnies 15 degree bend it bring it close enough that i still use the original plastic flap cover, it is about 1/2inch over the bar so it worked out just right.

With the 7deg bend and the brackets being short it fits just right.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Slunnies 15deg i thought brought the bar too far out and made it the same as the standard bar (except for height of coarse)
An excellent guide though

http://forum.australia4wd.com/uploads/1130512379/med_gallery_43_4_50133.jpg

The brackets are what bring it in close.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/bazzar/Duckmaloi_019.sized.jpg
This a better view of how it sits with the original flap and how close it is, but not to close.
http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/bazzar/Duckmaloi_021.sized.jpg

[MickG]

Great pics Baz with a good look at how it all goes together. The design of mine does away with firstly the 7 or 15 degree angle all together plus the need for separate brackets behind the bar - although here it is strengthened with plate. My 75mm Box section goes straight across and leaves about 25mm sticking out past the rubber flap all the way along. We ended up adding a tube section along the centre which gives more of a foot hold and negates adding bigger box section and in turn more weight - looks good as well - pics to follow soon hopefully.

Appreciate your input and pics and will hopefully post some of mine up soon. I have someone making mine just now and am very impressed with the design and finish so far especially round the sides. Once on it should offer a far greater departure angle and greater strength for the inevitable abuse it will take!!
Will keep you posted and thanks again, Mick

[Redback]

I was thinking of that myself as weight was another factor for me too, i'm looking forward as to how it loks when finished.

The next thing for me is trying to figure out how to strengthen the brackets on the car, cause they are pretty ****weak, if you work it out let us know.

Oh i didn't do anything with the muffler cause i'm getting a 3" system put in soon and it will fitted to suit the new bar.

Baz.

[MickG]

Originally posted by Redback
I was thinking of that myself as weight was another factor for me too, i'm looking forward as to how it loks when finished.

The next thing for me is trying to figure out how to strengthen the brackets on the car, cause they are pretty ****weak, if you work it out let us know.

Oh i didn't do anything with the muffler cause i'm getting a 3" system put in soon and it will fitted to suit the new bar.

Baz.

Keen to hear how your exhaust system goes https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Aye, Mick

[CraigE]

Logical thinking the cluster replacement should be OK. But, it all depends on who you get at an RTA inspection. As I understand it anything form standard could be knocked back by an inspector that has not compiled with ADRs for that model/year. For peace of mind I would have a chat with your local RTA and get approval in writing. In reality most will not even notice. I do not know what the go is but to meet ADRs a lot of 4x4s on the market have had to relocate their lights to the bumper???

[Slunnie]

I'm pretty sure that has to do with the rear door mounted spare tyre obscuring the light clusters when viewing from an angle. MOving the lights to the rear bar solves this.

[tombraider]

Hey Slunnie! Cant sleep either hey :?: :wink:

On the topic, I'll post some of the bar I made in 2000, still going strong!

Cheers
Mike

[Slunnie]

just got home. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/