NSW Rego for No.5 trailer

[PuckawidgeePete]

Hi all,

I'm in the process of putting my Military No. 5 on the road in NSW to tow behind a Defender 90 . Have rewired to 7 pin. Spoke to the one of the local trailer manufacturing shops who also do NSW rego inspections about getting a roadworthy & vin number but they came back with "no go, big problem, axle on this model must be moved to comply with VSB1...axle to be rear of the centre of cargo area". I looked up VSB1 and could nothing along these lines. Am I being taken for a ride by this mob? From reading previous posts on this topic I thought it was a relatively straight forward process in NSW.
Pete

[87County]

mr. trailermaker wants to sell his trailers, not just be a blue slip issuer.

i would think it could make sense to take your rego enquiries to a blue slip issuer who has experience with these trailers.

Where are you located ?

Stacks of them are registered in NSW, but don't waste your time telling mr. trailermaker :)

[Mick_Marsh]

Yep, Mr 87County is quite correct. Time to move on.

I thought the No5s sold by AFM in NSW had VINs. Where did you get the trailer?

[PuckawidgeePete]

Thanks for that. Yes, I thought that might be the case, as I've seen a few on the h'way with NSW plates. I'm located between Queanbeyan & Cooma.

[PuckawidgeePete]

Mick, I got it from AFM Sydney auction last year. Has been sitting in the shed while i got it ready. No VIN at all (searched for it), only came with the aluminium plate stamped with Army rego No. & Manu serial No.
Pete

[67hardtop]

Hi, Puckawidgeepete, i just read ur post, im wondering if u still have the 12 pin round plug that came with the no5 trailer and if u would sell it to me if u dont want to keep it. Im after one for my no5 trailer as it was damaged by the towie that delivered my trailer to me. Been looking around for one for a while. If its got some of the wiring still attatched would be great. Thanks in advance.

Cheers Rod

[PuckawidgeePete]

Rod,

Yes, I still have the 12 pin & I don't need it. I'll look for it in the shed & drop you a line.
Pete

[87County]

Yep, Mr 87County is quite correct. Time to move on.

I thought the No5s sold by AFM in NSW had VINs. Where did you get the trailer?

No more "blue slips" with VINs for No.5s from AFM I'm afraid Mr Marsh. Haulmarks and similar still get one.

I understand that current NSW procedure (always changeable of course) is for the "blue slip" supplier to apply for a VIN from RMS (RTA) and stamp it as part of his issuing the "blue slip" .

In NSW these trailers (due to unladen weight) fall above the cheap "no annual inspection" category with RMS. Therefore they require annual inspections and, naturally, higher rego fees :(

[Mick_Marsh]

Geez, life is tough for you trailer owners in NSW.

[87County]

Yes Mr Marsh, we're all thinking of migrating

Please tell me, how are economic refugees "from your north" treated in The Mexico ? :)

Do you have encampments, benefits and border police ?

[Mick_Marsh]

Yes Mr Marsh, we're all thinking of migrating

Please tell me, how are economic refugees "from your north" treated in The Mexico ? :)

Do you have encampments, benefits and border police ?

Oh, what a good question. I wish I could tell you the true story. Suffice it to say, you would be as discriminated against as one who was born in Victoria.

I'll give you an example of what occurred recently in my life.
My cousin, a New South Welshman, recently bought a van in Victoria. Using my address, he was given a customer number at Vicroads. He transferred the caravan (a nice long tandem) into his name for about $8. He paid $58.10 a year for registration.
All perfectly legal.
Now, here is the clever thing, in NSW, when you reach a certain age, the NSW government allow you to register one vehicle for free. He and his wife reached that age this year so, his wife now owns the Prado and he recently had his caravan transferred to NSW registration.

The important things for me (And you should you move to just over the border. Wahgunyah would be a good place.):
Trailer registrations are $58.10 p/y
Club permits are $76.40 p/45 days
The S3 is $558.80 p/y
The Perentie (6x6) is $1171.10

[67hardtop]

Rod,

Yes, I still have the 12 pin & I don't need it. I'll look for it in the shed & drop you a line.
Pete
Thanks so much Pete.

Cheers Rod

[Ukalipt]

@ PuckawidgeePete (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/56669.html)

How did you go? I am too very interested in registering a Minto purchased trailer and would love to know how you faired in the end.

Also...

What are anyones thoughts on travelling inland with Pintle hook hitch? I am driving to Uluru mid year from Sydney and looking to take the oodnadatta track and wanted to know if I am a MAD MAN thinking I can tow with a pintle for that long without going mad

[Mick_Marsh]

@ PuckawidgeePete (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/56669.html)

How did you go? I am too very interested in registering a Minto purchased trailer and would love to know how you faired in the end.

Also...

What are anyones thoughts on travelling inland with Pintle hook hitch? I am driving to Uluru mid year from Sydney and looking to take the oodnadatta track and wanted to know if I am a MAD MAN thinking I can tow with a pintle for that long without going mad
Did you get a blue slip with it?
If yes, shouldn't be a problem to register.
If no, if it is a problem, get it blue slipped elsewhere.

Pintles and lunettes, I got used to the rattles and bangs.

[Ukalipt]

Did you get a blue slip with it?
My bad. Haven't bought one yet but I am pretty keen on one.


Pintles and lunettes, I got used to the rattles and bangs.
Ha... but will the wife be ok with it? [don't bother answering that - LOL]
We are travelling with another two cars - Cruiser and Prado. I can see it now, everyone will be in the other two cars and all the gear will be with me, solo in the 90 but still loving it

[Mick_Marsh]

Usually, the trailers come with a blue slip. It will mention that in the auction listing.
You then take that blue slip to the RMS office and register the trailer.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Plenty of number 5's registered in NSW. They are listed in the RMS "makes and models" database with the Manufacturer "Australian Defence Industries" (ADI) and model as "No.5 half ton trailer". they were all manufactured in the 1960s, although many had full re-builds in the 1980s or later and AFM dated them as 1985 or 1981.

If you can find the original Army Registration Number or chassis number using the REMLR ARN database will give you a date. If you can find the ARN and don't have a chassis number, then stamp the chassis number from the REMLR database into the drawbar.

Then take the date and chassis number to the Blue slip inspector. Given that manufacture date pre-dates ADR and current rules can't be made retrospective, you should have minimal problems although they often do require front and side reflectors.

[Larry]

..........What are anyones thoughts on travelling inland with Pintle hook hitch? I am driving to Uluru mid year from Sydney and looking to take the oodnadatta track and wanted to know if I am a MAD MAN thinking I can tow with a pintle for that long without going mad

If you put a doubled over rubber O ring on top of the lunette before you close the pintle, this takes out 99% of the rattles. I was shown this many years ago and have had no problems in all sorts of conditions.[thumbsupbig]