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inken_dave
18th September 2017, 10:16 AM
Just wondering if anyone/company has developed a production roll cage for the 110? I'm interested in making one if there isn't one available.

The reason why:

Well for the first time ever, I rode in the rear of my Defender as my 16 year old son(L plates) drove with his mother in the front.....:bangin:

My son has been taught the art of gear changing in a Defender mind you.....

I know, it was a moment in history for me too...

Anyway, as we drove along a very corrugated road, I saw for the first time the amount of movement the body has when being shaken by a rough road. Especially with an ARB roof rack on. I was shocked. Now I've repaired many a spot weld, and pop rivet, on older Defenders due to body flex. Now I know why these things rattle and leak.

All Defender owners will also have see the movement between the drivers door and the roof when driving over rough roads. You can also see significant movement when slamming the rear passenger doors. Overall this entire structure is quite weak.

I'd like to brace, as best I can, the body from this excessive movement. My first thoughts are to fabricate a roll cage, which would withstand a proper rollover, but also pick up on mounts for the unused third row passenger overhead handles to brace both lateral and longitudinal movement. The roll bar would be mounted just behind the rear seats, inline with the roof lining seam. Crossed braced to the mudguards with sufficient load spreading (Chassis would be better, but would really reduce usable space, any ideas welcome), and also would be diagonally braced from the top of the roll bar to the rear corner of the mud guards.

What are peoples thoughts?

After all this, someone is going to post a one line link to an already manufactured product..........Suits me..

Thanks

karlz
18th September 2017, 04:23 PM
After all this, someone is going to post a one line link to an already manufactured product..........Suits me..


Probably not what your after, but this is on my wanted list.

4x4 Outdoor Tuning :: 6 point external Roll Cage, NAS, for Defender 110 Station Wagon 4-door (http://www.4x4outdoortuning.com.au/6-pont-external-roll-cage-nas-for-defender-110-station-wagon-4-door.html)

justinc
18th September 2017, 04:39 PM
Shingleback off road is developing one as we speak. Stay tuned for a great local product!

Jc

pommy
18th September 2017, 04:39 PM
Shingleback fabrications is building a cage /roof rack for my 110 as we speak maybe you should check him out , Andrew is a great guy to deal with too .

justinc
18th September 2017, 04:40 PM
Shingleback Off Road 4WD accessories | Shingleback Rack (http://www.shinglebackoffroad.com/)

rijidij
23rd September 2017, 11:44 AM
The Shingleback cage is looking like being an awesome product.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/899.jpg

HardCharger
23rd September 2017, 01:08 PM
What about these guys?

Land Rover Defender 110 Station Wagon Multi Point Bolt-in Roll Cage | Safety Devices – Experts In Automotive Safety Solutions (http://www.safetydevices.com/expedition/products/roll-cage/Land+Rover+Defender+110+-1983-present-4-door-Station+Wagon/290/1145/)

Shoogs
23rd September 2017, 03:42 PM
What about these guys?

Land Rover Defender 110 Station Wagon Multi Point Bolt-in Roll Cage | Safety Devices – Experts In Automotive Safety Solutions (http://www.safetydevices.com/expedition/products/roll-cage/Land+Rover+Defender+110+-1983-present-4-door-Station+Wagon/290/1145/)

I have a safety devices roll cage, 21 years old though... external to internal...

Didge
24th September 2017, 09:06 PM
I can't see many of these types of cages being too effective in the event of a serious rollover. There is no bracing (triangulation) that provides the necessary rigidity. I reckon most of them would rack (collapse like dominoes) if a rollover involved multiple rotations.

HardCharger
25th September 2017, 12:28 PM
The Safety Devices cage goes through the body then mounts to the chassis. Pretty strong set up when you see it in person.

weeds
25th September 2017, 12:46 PM
Shingleback also goes though the the chassis......

I'm also guessing shinglebacks has less bolt together joins making it more solid.

Yep no cross bracing but I recon it would increase the protection in a roll over plus you get a roof rack.....

Northy
25th September 2017, 04:41 PM
anyone know much much the shingleback run

pommy
27th September 2017, 07:16 PM
Check out Facebook he has nearly finished mine

Didge
27th September 2017, 07:54 PM
Check out Facebook he has nearly finished mine
what's the link?

weeds
28th September 2017, 06:17 AM
what's the link?

Shingleback Off Road - Home | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/singlebackoffroad/)

Didge
28th September 2017, 06:40 AM
Thanks for that 😁

pommy
29th September 2017, 05:18 PM
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pommy
29th September 2017, 05:18 PM
Wow fail useless at this computer stuff

pommy
29th September 2017, 05:39 PM
Try again

DiscoMick
29th September 2017, 06:12 PM
Yep, I like that. How much?

pommy
29th September 2017, 06:22 PM
Hasn't got back to me with final price yet , not cheap but very competitive with others available and it's 100% custom job

VladTepes
10th October 2017, 11:03 AM
I'd love a cage for the 130 but sadly they are WAY out of my budget..
4x4 Outdoor Tuning :: 8 point external Roll Cage, NAS, for Defender 130 high capacity Crew Cab (http://www.4x4outdoortuning.com.au/8-point-external-roll-cage-nas-for-defender-130-high-capacity-crew-cab.html)

Surrufus
11th October 2017, 10:48 AM
That Shingleback job looks amazing!!!
Would hate to think of the freight costs getting one around the country though haha!! [bigrolf]

russellrovers
11th October 2017, 11:52 AM
Just wondering if anyone/company has developed a production roll cage for the 110? I'm interested in making one if there isn't one available.

The reason why:

Well for the first time ever, I rode in the rear of my Defender as my 16 year old son(L plates) drove with his mother in the front.....:bangin:

My son has been taught the art of gear changing in a Defender mind you.....

I know, it was a moment in history for me too...

Anyway, as we drove along a very corrugated road, I saw for the first time the amount of movement the body has when being shaken by a rough road. Especially with an ARB roof rack on. I was shocked. Now I've repaired many a spot weld, and pop rivet, on older Defenders due to body flex. Now I know why these things rattle and leak.

All Defender owners will also have see the movement between the drivers door and the roof when driving over rough roads. You can also see significant movement when slamming the rear passenger doors. Overall this entire structure is quite weak.

I'd like to brace, as best I can, the body from this excessive movement. My first thoughts are to fabricate a roll cage, which would withstand a proper rollover, but also pick up on mounts for the unused third row passenger overhead handles to brace both lateral and longitudinal movement. The roll bar would be mounted just behind the rear seats, inline with the roof lining seam. Crossed braced to the mudguards with sufficient load spreading (Chassis would be better, but would really reduce usable space, any ideas welcome), and also would be diagonally braced from the top of the roll bar to the rear corner of the mud guards.

What are peoples thoughts?

After all this, someone is going to post a one line link to an already manufactured product..........Suits me..

Thankshi i have a militry perenty roll bar and the rear roll bar for sale jim