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drover81
19th September 2017, 08:28 PM
Can someone share the exploded view/pictures behind the door card on a 2 door RRC?

I feel like I'm going to snap the key every time I lock/unlock the passenger door and i cant even lock it from the inside.

I feel like something is bent or something and I need to pull it apart and repair or replace. Before I do, I'd like to know what it *should* look like so I can troubleshoot.

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discojools
19th September 2017, 10:21 PM
They can be very stiff. A clean and a bit lubrication can help. I've done it a few times on my green RRC but it tightens up after a while. On the other hand my Red RRC doesn't seem to suffer the problem I have no idea why!

350RRC
20th September 2017, 08:12 AM
IME the most common cause is that the outside door handle has not retracted flush with the door skin.

Trying to force the key to unlock in this situation will only break the plastic ball connector in the mechanism.

DL

drover81
20th September 2017, 04:51 PM
They can be very stiff. A clean and a bit lubrication can help. I've done it a few times on my green RRC but it tightens up after a while. On the other hand my Red RRC doesn't seem to suffer the problem I have no idea why!
How do/did you clean it? I've shot some degreaser into the lock barrel and on the door striker/lock without much effect.

trumpycam
20th September 2017, 05:27 PM
Double on the clean, however I found to minimize reocurrence (done it once in 26 years of ownership and my daily drive) it is best to remove lock mechanism completely from door and clean thoroughly as you will find dust has penetrated right into the lock. Fiddly but doable with a bit of patience. Just follow it through step by step. If I remember right you may need to take off window frame as well, not as hard as it sounds, for extra room.

350RRC
20th September 2017, 09:38 PM
If it isn't the door handle issue the next step is to take the door card off and have a look.

This will not help with the locking mechanism, which can be lubed with silicon or similar spray directly at the end of the door.

The door card is not hard to get off if you are somewhat adept with tools to get all the handles off first and then you'll see how it all works, what is slack and how to adjust it, etc.

cheers, DL

drover81
23rd September 2017, 07:17 PM
Thanks guys. I took the door card off and it appears whoever made/attached the current door cards is a total Muppet.

Door cards are made of plain MDF. The door cards are swollen and rubbing on everything. Not to mention all the spray on glue over all the moving parts.

Cleaned it all up and left the door cards off (for now) and all seems reasonable.

350RRC
23rd September 2017, 09:30 PM
That's a good result.

Just remember not to force the key, ever.

The little ball joints made out of England's finest plastic, many Royal embarrassments ago, will split.

Not only are they most likely unobtainable, they are in a place that the alternative I use (made from 19mm irrigation stirrups) is very hard to access.

You now have the chance to adjust the linkages and lube everything and make it good again.

DL

Davo
25th September 2017, 09:21 PM
Thanks guys. I took the door card off and it appears whoever made/attached the current door cards is a total Muppet.

Door cards are made of plain MDF. The door cards are swollen and rubbing on everything. Not to mention all the spray on glue over all the moving parts.

Cleaned it all up and left the door cards off (for now) and all seems reasonable.

I haven't done it yet, but I've been meaning to make some new cards from plastic, which should last forever. The originals are of that "Masonite" stuff and not doing much better than MDF.

drover81
26th September 2017, 08:07 PM
Have you got the dimensions, cutout details, fixing points Etc of the Cards?

Might be an(other) weekend project in the pipeline

Davo
26th September 2017, 10:59 PM
No, but I've got a 4-door, so not much help for you anyway. I'll just trace what's already there, (if it's not too mangled!) I was thinking of putting them on with velcro, since those little plastic things break easily. The trouble with that is finding something to stick the velcro on that isn't weaker than the grip velcro has.

350RRC
27th September 2017, 07:58 AM
No, but I've got a 4-door, so not much help for you anyway. I'll just trace what's already there, (if it's not too mangled!) I was thinking of putting them on with velcro, since those little plastic things break easily. The trouble with that is finding something to stick the velcro on that isn't weaker than the grip velcro has.

That's a great idea!

DL