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gromit
23rd September 2017, 08:47 PM
Series II & III door tops tend to be a consumable item. The steel frame rusts and it's not worthwhile trying to repair unless the rust is only minor.
I had to fit glass to 4 door tops for my two ex Military Land Rovers and took some pictures of the process.

Salvage all the aluminium spacers from the old door tops, kits of these parts are available from the usual supplier. Remove the glass and clean, especially the edges of the fixed pane.
If you're lucky the glass was fitted using old fashioned mastic, if you're unlucky someone will have used Silicon, Liquid Nails or some other difficult to remove concoction.

I painted the aluminium strips to match the vehicles. You'll notice several holes in some parts as they have been fitted several times in their life.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/926.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XK6fH2)DSCN4512 (https://flic.kr/p/XK6fH2) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

The window channel can can be purchased in kits. Offer each piece up and cut to length if required (I used an old door top in the pictures below).

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/927.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XFwqhs)DSCN4516 (https://flic.kr/p/XFwqhs) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/928.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XK6e6z)DSCN4514 (https://flic.kr/p/XK6e6z) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

You can buy the Series III window channel with a cutout already made for the window latch, I'm told it's easy to cut the hole but haven't done this myself.

Next job is to install the fixed pane of glass. The originals were fitted with a mastic strip which I've managed to source in rolls.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/929.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YHGrAs)DSCN4501 (https://flic.kr/p/YHGrAs) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

The mastic strip is pressed into place.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/930.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XK6x24)Door top 2 (https://flic.kr/p/XK6x24) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

The glass is then pressed into position, the mastic on the outside can be tidied up once everything is fitted.

Next place the filler strip & packing piece into place.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/931.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YnFEmN)Door top 1 (https://flic.kr/p/YnFEmN) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

Then install the long channel section.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/932.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XFwQ9f)Door top 3 (https://flic.kr/p/XFwQ9f) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

The channel has to be screwed into position. You need 3 or 4 countersunk stainless steel self tappers, drill though the bottom of the channel, through the packing or filler strip & through the door top.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/933.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YG6nH7)DSCN4517 (https://flic.kr/p/YG6nH7) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/934.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YG6Us3)Door top 4 (https://flic.kr/p/YG6Us3) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

Make sure the screws sit low enough that the glass doesn't catch on them.

Next install the vertical section of channel and filler strip (no packing piece is needed), I've used 2 screws to hold this in place.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/935.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XFwBmG)DSCN4508 (https://flic.kr/p/XFwBmG) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

Finally install the top channel. You must sit the moving pane of glass in the lower channel, fit the upper channel to the glass and swing into place while installing the filler strip and packing piece.
Once it's all in place you need to fix the channel using at least 3 screws.


There is a strip that screws into place at the front edge of the fixed pane of glass, I used st/st self tappers to re-attach this.

On the underside of the doortops a rubber strip is rivetted into place. Two of my new doortops didn't have holes drilled for the rivets so I had to mark out & drill (should have done this before painting !)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/936.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/YYQrAz)DSCN4518 (https://flic.kr/p/YYQrAz) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

Fit the rubber profile, depending on where you buy it you may have to use a wad punch to make the holes for the studs that hold the doortop in place.

Cut the ends to match the shape of the doortop & rivet into place.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/09/937.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XK6zTr)DSCN4521 (https://flic.kr/p/XK6zTr) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

Back to the fixed pane of glass. The mastic on the outside needs to be trimmed and then moulded to give a neat finish between the doortop & glass. I did this using my fingers but need to sit it outside in the sun and try and get a neater finish.

There is an aluminium strip that holds a rubber seal on the moving pane of glass. I haven't shown it in these pictures and it's probably best to fit to the glass before installing.


Hope this helps.


Colin

Chops
23rd September 2017, 09:47 PM
Thanks Colin,, I did this years ago on my old S3, but it will help when I do my S2 later this year [thumbsupbig]

whitehillbilly64
24th September 2017, 06:25 AM
Great write up.
Thank You.

whitehillbilly

grey_ghost
24th September 2017, 07:07 AM
Thanks Colin - I need to do this at some point on my Stage One....

gromit
24th September 2017, 07:34 AM
Another thing to mention about Series III doortops is to check the hole for the latch.
On Wallit I painted the doortops, installed the glass, went to fit the latch and the hole was a bit too small !!!

Check & file to size before painting !

On the Series II new doortops the holes for the rubber seal and the holes for the angle section that holds the front edge of the glass in place weren't pre-drilled. Check before painting !


Some time back I found the butyl rubber tape at a company in Dandenong. The link in the attached thread doesn't take you to the product now but the company may be able to help Butyl Rubber Tape (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-land-rovers/224654-butyl-rubber-tape.html)
It's quite heavy & would be a PITA to post. There must be companies Interstate that would have similar products.

Colin

rangieman
24th September 2017, 09:52 AM
Impressive [thumbsupbig] You did all that one handed while holding a camera[wink11]
Nice job mate[biggrin]