Warranty amazement

[mrapocalypse]

I'm amazed at how many more bumps, squeeks and vibrations I can put out of my mind now that Mr DII is way out of warranty. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

I have a well founded conspiracy theory that relates to the fact that a lot of dealerships are intentionally inept to get more warranty work out of Land Rover.

Next time your truck goes in for some work that a "Mechanic" Not a Technician" has to fix, and they know it's your dollars and continued custom they are playing with, that the answers to most problems are straight forward, fixed and don't require bank funding.

Take my DII Tranny for example. Landy started up one day, lights flashed, foward motion a no goer. Alto, who changed a gear box oil seal that leaked three times said it was an GB ECU. I suspected it to be low fluid and the ECU saying so. Car is out of warranty by two months, new ECU is get ready for it, $1500! I rang the nice customer service girl called Kate who I'm on well known terms with and she gets to the bottom of it, and I get a free ECU and a plan to never ever go back to Alto Land Rover.

Naming names but They are a joke.

So sue me!

Smash it into a few rock ledges and bog holes and the DII is no longer such a techno marvel. It's just a 4X4!

[one_iota]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Now is the time to remove the bubble wrap that it was delivered in.

:wink:

[mrapocalypse]

I know, I know.

It's just that sound of the first lantana branch making its way slowly down the panels that does it for me.

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Actually so far the most astonishing part of my LR ownership is that when you put something in to be fixed it actually comes out fixed... bizzare and totally unexpected https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[mrapocalypse]

I'm actually surprised at how after complaining about my DII for a full year how completely and obscenely I'm in love with it.

Even if the AC does hardly work and BP now have me on the VIP list!

[gruntfuttock]

I was going to keep this to myself but as we are on the topic I am having some trouble with my clutch. To me it sounds like the clutch master cylinder is not sealing properly and the fluid is seeping back inot the resovoir. My local dealer says "It is normal" "We cannot find any problem with it" and "We can only fix something if we can see there is a problem"


This is an edited extract of part of the letter I sent to LandRover Australia

The problem is this:-

"At the present time I am having problems with the clutch that the local dealer cannot detect. The problem is that the clutch plate does not maintain it’s required position in relation to the pressure plate against or away from the pressure plate / flywheel. What happens is this:
I back into or out of a certain places, and as such you must “feather” the clutch sometimes, after some time and AT RANDOM INTERVALS the distance between on and off gets increasingly closer to the firewall and as such the end of the distance the clutch pedal travels from on to off is often very small and against the firewall. What happens next is that the clutch will not disengage. To rectify this you must pump the clutch and all is normal. This will happen also AT ANY TIME AND AT RANDOM INTERVALS IN ANY GEAR. At first this was only happening every now and again but it is getting more frequent."


This is normal for a clutch :roll: :roll: :roll:

I do not think LandRover will have received my letter yet so I will wait for their reply and I am sure we can work this out without many problems.

I just don't like the dealer.

[mrapocalypse]

I am sure they must be over billing Land Rover for poo repairs and getting rich on the "Unreliable Land Rover".

It's a con.

Land Rover should look into it!

[Quiggers]

Alto Land Rover? The same one that's at Artarmon and Gordon?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ah, d'oh!!!!!!!!

Don't get me started, then again they didn't get the Disco started either, but wait there's more, I bought a new Bronco from them in 1985. OMG!!!!!!!

I liked the Bronco - but the service - ohno - ohno - ohno, I should write a story about this, unbelievable.

Cheers, GQ

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">hey grunty.....
what you describe there is also dangerous......
if you are waiting at an intersection in first gear ready to take off......
the clutch will slowly engage......and with the pressure on you cant take it out of gear.....
the clutch is already pressed to the floor....and the thing is trying to launch
you into the traffic.....as diesels dont like to stall too easy.....
(ask me how i know....)

you gotta be quick to switch off the engine so you can pump the clutch
and take it out of gear then try again.....this time in neutral.....

im on my third master cylinder....they seem to only do about 20,000kms before
they die.....so far warranty has covered mine without any questions.....
and i should be up for my fourth soon......
if your still under warranty....all is good....

if not....take your clutch master cylinder and get a stainless sleeve fitted
to it....then fit new seals......this seems to fix them.......</span>

[Ben_R]

Me too! I'm on my 3rd master cylinder in the 60 000kms I've owned it. at that rate my 130 would have had 7 master cylinders by now! Tony is correct, the piston pushes/throws in the sleeve out of line and slowly wares the aluminium sleeve, grey/silvery fluid is the result and no pressure. Apparently this type of master cylinder, is built for over ride brakes on trailers.

Ben 00 TD5 CC 130

[Ace]

I am still amazed by. i think it was Captain Rightfoots story about the prado the blew a diff whilst on a simpson trip- toyotas reason for not honoring the warranty? "It wasnt being used for the purpose it was designed for" now that takes the cake, heaven forbid you would go 4wding in a 4wd. 8O

One of the benefits of having a car out of warranty is you can do the work yourself, you dont get ripped off and you know the job has been done properly. Matt

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">oh...you can still do the work yourself....even if it is under warranty.....

its just not worth it......</span>

[gruntfuttock]

[quote=DEFENDERZOOK]<span style="color:blue">hey grunty.....
what you describe there is also dangerous......
if you are waiting at an intersection in first gear ready to take off......
the clutch will slowly engage......and with the pressure on you cant take it out of gear.....
the clutch is already pressed to the floor....and the thing is trying to launch
you into the traffic.....as diesels dont like to stall too easy.....
(ask me how i know....)

you gotta be quick to switch off the engine so you can pump the clutch
and take it out of gear then try again.....this time in neutral.....

im on my third master cylinder....they seem to only do about 20,000kms before
they die.....so far warranty has covered mine without any questions.....
and i should be up for my fourth soon......
if your still under warranty....all is good....

if not....take your clutch master cylinder and get a stainless sleeve fitted
to it....then fit new seals......this seems to fix them.......</span>


Thanks Zook,

I was thinking of doing that, but as it is under warranty......

The problem is that the local dealer would not know if a train was up their XXXX until it blew it's horn, and then they would um and ah about it :roll: :roll:

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Originally posted by Ace
I am still amazed by. i think it was Captain Rightfoots story about the prado the blew a diff whilst on a simpson trip- toyotas reason for not honoring the warranty? "It wasnt being used for the purpose it was designed for" now that takes the cake, heaven forbid you would go 4wding in a 4wd. 8O . Matt

What is more... my LR had the same problem and basically I just booked it in, took the mechanic for a run, and it was all agreed. Within 3 days i had the car back all fixed https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ Tell your toyota friends to smoke that https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[rmp]

Sounds very much like a problem I had which turned out to be the clutch master cylinder.

[rick130]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Apparently this type of master cylinder, is built for over ride brakes on trailers. [/b][/quote]

actually they were designed as race car brake/clutch master cylinders, and, I know none of you will believe this, we always used Girling ones as they were the most reliable, truly !
Much more reliable than Lockheed.
Virtually every open wheel race race that has ever been made in the UK came equipped with three of them and they never gave any trouble.
I was shocked when I found out how many problems the Land Rover/Girling clutch m/c's were giving. I've changed mine once so far (180,00km)