Yeah daylight savings !i

[trog]

In a few hours some of us will wake up with the sun . Those of us that are denied will sleep through a sunrise birds and the lucky ones that start and finish an hour earlier.

[Mick_Marsh]

No,
I'll be waking up in the dark and going to bed while the sun is up.

I hate daylight savings.

[trog]

So what . If the rotation of the globe results in an earlier wake up, get used to it. The natural world does

[Homestar]

I love it, bring it on! :)

[trout1105]

HeHe
None of that sort of "Malarky" here in the West, Thank the Gods [bigwhistle]

[drivesafe]

Can someone educate me.

I live in Queensland, what is daylight saving.

I mean, how can you save daylight????

[trog]

Can someone educate me.

I live in Queensland, what is daylight saving.

I mean, how can you save daylight????

Start the day when the sky gets bright ?

[bee utey]

Can someone educate me.

I live in Queensland, what is daylight saving.

I mean, how can you save daylight????

Well, you borrow some in the morning, and save it for the evening, but you get terrible interest rates for it in some states. [bighmmm]

[Homestar]

As mentioned you save it from the morning and get more light in the evenings. Up North the lengths of the day's don't vary much all year round, so no benefit up there but down here the daylight is very short in Winter and very long in Summer. Daylight savings just moves the times when the sun sets to make the most out of the day. Having the extra hour of daylight in the evening is great for getting things done after work, evening BBQ's etc.

I don't get why so many get so uptight about this to be honest, it really makes no difference to the day, just gets darker later. It wouldn't bother me if it wasn't done but as it is, I make the most of it. :)

Like a lot of things in life - if you can't change it, why get so mad about it? Those that get upset about it need to learn about the 'circle of concern'... [biggrin]

[Mick_Marsh]

So what . If the rotation of the globe results in an earlier wake up, get used to it. The natural world does
Not the cows.

Actually, the natural world has no concept of time as dictated by a clock. I doubt the sparrow will be waking an hour earlier tomorrow morning.

[drivesafe]

Won't that extra hour of sunlight in the evening bleach your curtains?

[ramblingboy42]

In a few hours some of us will wake up with the sun . Those of us that are denied will sleep through a sunrise birds and the lucky ones that start and finish an hour earlier.


if its so good, why weren't you doing it last week before the govt officials decided to do it this week....I mean how does it suddenly come into play one day but not the previous.

you are all puppets.

[Mick_Marsh]

Can someone educate me.

I live in Queensland, what is daylight saving.

I mean, how can you save daylight????
Think of it this way:
If you want to make your blanket (sheet for you northerners) longer, you cut a length off the bottom and sew it to the top.
See, you have now made the blanket (sheet) longer by adding a piece to the top.

The same can be done with beach towels.....

.... and daylight.

[Mick_Marsh]

Won't that extra hour of sunlight in the evening bleach your curtains?
Yep. Mine are so faded, they're falling apart.

[trog]

Well **** the cows. The sun still wakes me early in the morning let's get goiong

[Homestar]

Won't that extra hour of sunlight in the evening bleach your curtains?

Spoken like a true Queenslander. :)

[Homestar]

Well **** the cows. The sun still wakes me early in the morning let's get goiong

There's not a day of the year the sun wakes me up - I'm always up before it shows. The closest it comes is the last couple of weeks where you can just see the sky lightening as I get home from my morning walk. :)

[Mick_Marsh]

There's not a day of the year the sun wakes me up - I'm always up before it shows.
Funny you should say. Tom and I were discussing this very topic, today.
What time are you waking up tomorrow?

[Gullible]

In a few hours some of us will wake up with the sun . Those of us that are denied will sleep through a sunrise birds and the lucky ones that start and finish an hour earlier.

wouldn't it just be easier to keep the clocks the same and get up an hour earlier and do all the stuff you would like to do while it is still cool in the morning.

As for those that say there is a difference between the north and the south. Not really. Daylight savings makes more sense the further you are away from the equator. None of Australia is that far from the equator. Have a look at Northern Europe, there it makes more sense.

[Roverlord off road spares]

We had a bloke at a place I worked at once and he was not the sharpest tool in the shop. He asked me how do they make daylight savings? I explained in detail that NASA has a reflector in space that beamed down extra daylight to the earth and at certain times of the year Australia rented some daylight time.

[trog]

No they will waken when then sun lights the sky

[Slunnie]

Woohoo, I love daylight saving!!!! :arms::twobeers::ehigh5::banana:

[donh54]

I think it means you can take a two hour flight from Auckland, and land in Sydney half an hour before you left. Simples!!

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Clock? we dont need no stinking clock...
listen for birds,
no birds?
go back to sleep.
simples.

[Homestar]

wouldn't it just be easier to keep the clocks the same and get up an hour earlier and do all the stuff you would like to do while it is still cool in the morning.
I already get up at 4am, how much earlier am I supposed to get up?




As for those that say there is a difference between the north and the south. Not really. Daylight savings makes more sense the further you are away from the equator. None of Australia is that far from the equator. Have a look at Northern Europe, there it makes more sense.

Melbourne has a difference of over 5 hours of daylight from mid Winter to mid Summer, Darwin is less than an hour and a half - pretty big difference IMO and it makes it more than worthwhile. :)

[Homestar]

Funny you should say. Tom and I were discussing this very topic, today.
What time are you waking up tomorrow?

I woke up at 5.05 this morning. :). Will take a few days to reset the clock back an hour. :)

[rick130]

It starts a month too early and ends a month too late.....

Waking and going to work in the dark sucks.....

[Fatso]

Its Daylight Saving , not Daylight Savings , at least get it right !!! . By the way what ever you call it , it sucks !!! . :soapbox:

[AK83]

Its Daylight Saving , not Daylight Savings , at least get it right !!! . ....

That's right .. it's not plural! :P

A must see for everyone that loves and/or hates Daylight Saving.


https://youtu.be/k4EUTMPuvHo

it just makes sense! [bigrolf]
Part 2 is the 'Spring Forward'

[ramblingboy42]

I think it means you can take a two hour flight from Auckland, and land in Sydney half an hour before you left. Simples!!

I'm interested in these two hour flights from Auckland.....which airline?

Maybe Air Force.

[AllTerr]

I'm interested in these two hour flights from Auckland.....which airline?

Maybe Air Force.
I think it's a little over 2 hrs from Sydney. It's just over 3 hrs from Melbourne...

[YOLO110]

It's a complete PITA having VIC and NSW on Daylight Saving time, whereas in W.A there is none. So we go from a 2 hour time difference to a 3 hour time difference. Another hurdle for business on both sides of the country to deal with. Either all do it as a country, or don't IMHO.

At least 'over East', it's actually nice getting back from work (times fixed at 9-5) and then still have 3-4 hours or so daylight to enjoy doing other non work stuff!

[Zeros]

Long balmy evenings are magnificent! and clock time is an invention anyway.

...I like variety and change, so I love it.

I wonder if it would be more of a PITA if there were no time zones at all? [bigwhistle]

[NavyDiver]

Nearly 6pm and the suns up- I Love it.

I did hear that sleep is an issue. 21% increase in cardiac issues with one hour less sleep would you believe! (https://www.livescience.com/50068-daylight-saving-time-heart-attacks.html) Just for one day!!!

Get a 22% reduction when we drop it[bigwhistle]

[AK83]

....

At least 'over East', it's actually nice getting back from work (times fixed at 9-5) and then still have 3-4 hours or so daylight to enjoy doing other non work stuff!

That's what I like about DST.

Losing that one little super-important, ultra-imperative little bolt or screw that takes 3-4 hours to find .. that's where those additional daylight hours are nice to have up your sleeve! [thumbsupbig]

[ramblingboy42]

I think it's a little over 2 hrs from Sydney. It's just over 3 hrs from Melbourne...

try 3hrs40min without any delays Auckland - Sydney.....I just looked it up.

[AllTerr]

try 3hrs40min without any delays Auckland - Sydney.....I just looked it up.
I remember going to Auckland a couple years ago being near 3 hrs. When I looked it up before that post it was 3 hrs 15 min from Melbourne. Seeing as Melbourne to Sydney is around 50 min to an hour, I assumed that it was that much shorter flying from sydney

[DiscoMick]

I suppose if I had a battery on my solar system I could literally save the daylight to use after the sun sets.

[Eevo]

i love daylights saving, can do things in the evening now.
wish we had it all year round.
only make sense in the southern states.

[Roverlord off road spares]

i love daylights saving, can do things in the evening now.
wish we had it all year round.
only make sense in the southern states.
Yes I would love it ll year round also , at least in winter you might come home in the little remaining daylight instead of the dark around 5pm. I don't like it when it finishes, there is still room for daylight during that month.

[ramblingboy42]

Next year will be 50 years that daylight saving started in Australia (except for the war years)
Every year since then, at this time , every year , the same arguments for and against come up.
Btw, Queensland had it early, but we saw the light and switched it off.
If it was cancelled Australia wide, it really wouldn't make one scrap of difference to your lives. You will swear black and blue that it does. It didn't 50 yrs ago before you had it.
Silliness, gullibility.

[Homestar]

Next year will be 50 years that daylight saving started in Australia (except for the war years)
Every year since then, at this time , every year , the same arguments for and against come up.
Btw, Queensland had it early, but we saw the light and switched it off.
If it was cancelled Australia wide, it really wouldn't make one scrap of difference to your lives. You will swear black and blue that it does. It didn't 50 yrs ago before you had it.
Silliness, gullibility.

That argument holds true if Queensland still had it... ;)

[incisor]

Yawn

[Vern]

Next year will be 50 years that daylight saving started in Australia (except for the war years)
Every year since then, at this time , every year , the same arguments for and against come up.
Btw, Queensland had it early, but we saw the light and switched it off.
If it was cancelled Australia wide, it really wouldn't make one scrap of difference to your lives. You will swear black and blue that it does. It didn't 50 yrs ago before you had it.
Silliness, gullibility.I wasn't born 50 years ago! So i grew up with it, and love it. I can spend 4 hours at the beach after work with my kids, or atleast doing things after work, whats not to like about it.
Queenslanders don't have it, no big deal so stop harping on about how you hate it. (Not directed at you ramblingboy)

[Eevo]

so qld is 50 years behind the rest of australia.

[donh54]

so qld is 50 years behind the rest of australia.
Or 50 years in front, depending on which side of the border you're on [emoji12]

[CraigE]

So what . If the rotation of the globe results in an earlier wake up, get used to it. The natural world does

Ah Daylight savings is certainly not natural, but a self indulgent aberration. The actual sunrise and sunset times do not actually change in the natural world. Just happy we in WA have resisted it. The best part about summer is getting up in the morning in nice early light, day light savings means you still get up in the dark all year and even without day light savings does not get dark until well after 19:30.

[CraigE]

Won't that extra hour of sunlight in the evening bleach your curtains?

Yeah, I still have several sets of bleached curtains from SA, along with my very confused Cow and Chickens. Now in WA the SA Chickens are confused while the WA ones are OK.[bigsmile]

[Tombie]

Ah Daylight savings is certainly not natural, but a self indulgent aberration. The actual sunrise and sunset times do not actually change in the natural world. Just happy we in WA have resisted it. The best part about summer is getting up in the morning in nice early light, day light savings means you still get up in the dark all year and even without day light savings does not get dark until well after 19:30.

Hardly....

Up at 5:30 am and it’s light at the moment..
And still light well after I get home...

That’s a win [emoji41]

[Disco-tastic]

so qld is 50 years behind the rest of australia.No they're only an hour behind until march next year. They'll catch up eventually [emoji14]

[Ausfree]

No they're only an hour behind until march next year. They'll catch up eventually [emoji14]


Crikey, don't tell V8Ian that, we'll never hear the end of it.[bigwhistle]

[Homestar]

so qld is 50 years and one hour behind the rest of australia.

Fixed it for you. :)

[donh54]

Or 50 years in front, depending on which side of the border you're on [emoji12]

Should that be 49 years, 11 months, 30 days, and 23 hours in front.

[CraigE]

Hardly....

Up at 5:30 am and it’s light at the moment..
And still light well after I get home...

That’s a win [emoji41]

It is here to atm, but if we went DS it would be dark. Ok for those that are late risers, but for those of us that have to go to work between 4:30 & 5.00am it is nice to do it in daylight for part of the year

[Tombie]

It is here to atm, but if we went DS it would be dark. Ok for those that are late risers, but for those of us that have to go to work between 4:30 & 5.00am it is nice to do it in daylight for part of the year

You’re still up North aren’t you?

WA being a full height state has that problem.... Southern states don’t... hence why NT doesn’t take up DST either...

[Tony V]

DSL works in Victoria and Tasmania but NSW could manage without it. South East Queensland only need it for to work with NSW and Victoria.

:soapbox: FNQ in particular where I live, Cairns gets just over or just under 12 hours daylight so DSL is a burden to the locals, 5:50am to 6:50pm Wet (summer time) and 6:23am to 6:15pm during the Dry (winter)

Builders, farmers and tourism need the light and cool around 6am and most trips finish around 5pm
130449
As we have just passed the equinox, the sun now rises south of Cairns and sets in the south until around March 15th

130451

In December the sun is above Rockhampton a 1000kms south of Cairns.

130450

[Tombie]

Hardly a valid argument there [emoji6]
We have 06:29-19:49 at the moment... and it gets longer in the coming months!

The heat of the day argument is a poor one, the heat here is a scorcher here and on the mine sites.. the tradies etc just start earlier and then pack up earlier...

[Tony V]

Hardly a valid argument there [emoji6]
We have 06:29-19:49 at the moment... and it gets longer in the coming months!

The heat of the day argument is a poor one, the heat here is a scorcher here and on the mine sites.. the tradies etc just start earlier and then pack up earlier...

Maybe a look at the chart to see that our "longer to shorter days are just 49 minutes" not the couple of hours down south.

Moving it by an hour means 6:57 sunrise and 7:15 sunset at this time of year and best would be mid summer 6:47 sunrise and 7:54 sunset.

With the humidity in the wet season, the dark cooling evening will be later meaning kids will need aircon on, not just fans, oldies will suffer, people that need to travel for 7am or earlier starts will travel in the feral animal butter zone of pre-dawn to sunrise. Some of the tablelands kids travel a good hour to and from school putting their travel in the danger zone for feral animals.

For the backpacker who do 80% of the picking need daylight, so do the tradies, they would start at first light with or without DLS as they have no flood lights unlike the mines.

[Eevo]

if daylight could start at 7am and keep going til midnight, that would be awesome,

[Mick_Marsh]

if daylight could start at 7am and keep going til midnight, that would be awesome,
Keep up, Eevo, you've been able to do that for years.
Osram 120cm 36W Daylight Lumilux Fluorescent Tube - 2 Pack (https://www.bunnings.com.au/osram-120cm-36w-daylight-lumilux-fluorescent-tube-2-pack_p4320428)

Well, maybe not SA.

[trout1105]

if daylight could start at 7am and keep going til midnight, that would be awesome,

There ARE places where it is daylight all day, a wee bit chilly there though [bigwhistle]

[incisor]

Well, maybe not SA.

thank you mr marsh

[biggrin]

[Tombie]

Keep up, Eevo, you've been able to do that for years.
Osram 120cm 36W Daylight Lumilux Fluorescent Tube - 2 Pack (https://www.bunnings.com.au/osram-120cm-36w-daylight-lumilux-fluorescent-tube-2-pack_p4320428)

Well, maybe not SA.

They tell us we can turn them on Thursday [emoji41]

Even funnier, we’re setting up 2 big Gensets at the moment to stabilise plant security this week..

[donh54]

South East Queensland only need it for to work with NSW and Victoria.


Beats me how these companies can work in with head offices in Europe or the USA no problem, but a measly half hour upset has them squealing for the rest of the state to change for their sake.
Here's a tip .... how about you designate one or more people to start work half an hour early to handle the "disruption"

[CraigE]

You’re still up North aren’t you?

WA being a full height state has that problem.... Southern states don’t... hence why NT doesn’t take up DST either...

No I am living South of Perth and working near Esperance, but work will change shortly heading North again.

[Homestar]

They tell us we can turn them on Thursday [emoji41]

Even funnier, we’re setting up 2 big Gensets at the moment to stabilise plant security this week..

You know I have to ask who's these are don't you? :)

We do have a large machine and switchboard heading to Iron Baron tomorrow though but that's just for a week or so for a shutdown there.

[AndyG]

So this is why we have had global warming the last 50 years, there is a direct correlation so it must be true 🤔😱

[DiscoMick]

I can remember before daylight saving - life went on as normal. So I don't miss it in Godzown, but I would in Vic or even worse Tassie.

[Mick_Marsh]

So this is why we have had global warming the last 50 years, there is a direct correlation so it must be true 🤔😱
With ya there, bro. The extra hour of sunlight each day is making the world a hotter place.

[Fatso]

But at least you can save on the power bill with a shorter night hey!! . [bigsmile]

[ramblingboy42]

Ahhhh, it finally dawned on me .....no pun intended.
My wife is always tired......ain't that common guys?
But if she took advantage of daylight savings , she could go to bed at 8pm instead of 9pm.