Bathurst 2017.

[Pickles2]

Can't wait, the big day is almost upon me.
Telecast starts from Thursday, &, of course, I shall be watching.
Numerous practice sessions, qualifying, strategies, shoot out, problems etc etc, it'll all be happening!
But it's not only the racing, there's a nice bit of tucker involved too, my "Bathurst Big Breakfast", which will be served up to me around 7.00am Sunday morning,...a couple of fried eggs, sausages, fried potatoes, a few rashers of bacon, mushrooms, tomatoes & a couple of pieces of fried bread,....aahh...I can smell it already!
Of course, I know from previous comments that not many of you guys will be watching, but I've been watching it since the 327 Monaro days,.... remember when Ch 7 "televised" it, & they used to "cross" to Casey & Jack's "World Of Sport" supposedly for ONE hour, I remember one year when it was almost THREE,....a few phone calls were made to Ch 7 that day!!....don't have to worry about that now, so all is good!
My "tip",...Whincup/Dumbrell, although at Bathurst the best of plans can go wrong for a multitude of reasons,....I'll be interested to see how Richie Stanaway goes, I can see a big future for him.
I know there are a HUGE number of enthusiasts on the Forum,....Lol!!,....but I shall nevertheless enjoy conversing with you all.
Looking forward to "The Great Race", Pickles.
NB:The Brock Commodore Owners Association of Australia, of which I am a founding member, is having their "Brocktober" function at Bathurst during the race weekend, so there will be many nice Brock Commodores to be seen.

[pop058]

Pickles, I think this thread will generate a lot of "conversation" and although Wingecup has a great team behind him, I can't help but wonder what team directions he is going to ignore this time. [bigwhistle]

[V8Ian]

Getting a bit ahead of yourself Pickles, Bathurst 2018 is about fifty-three weeks away.

[lyonsy]

Bathurst and Jamie Whincup "Darkness" ft. Paul Dumbrell - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y87Rd9oEb20)

[grey_ghost]

Hmm. I wouldn’t be discounting the Fords either... Maybe DJR?

[Ean Austral]

Would like to see Loundsy upstage his other so called team mates.


I just hope is a good close race , I still think Chas Mostert's win in the Pepsi falcon a few years ago , and the fact he had not been in the lead at any stage in the race till the final half lap is the best I have seen in recent years.

I will be tuned in watching it unfold.

Cheers Ean

[Ean Austral]

Getting a bit ahead of yourself Pickles, Bathurst 2018 is about fifty-three weeks away.

:Rolling::Rolling:

Cheers Ean

[lyonsy]

https://www.facebook.com/camographic/videos/941452595889963/

[strangy]

Enjoy Pickles.
Some of the enjoyable things in life go unrecognised.

[Homestar]

Despite me being a naysayer of V8's as they are these days, I will be watching it - maybe not like I used to glued to the telly, but certainly the first hour and throughout the day as I'm working outside on the deck - hmmm, might even take the time to stick the spare 42" telly outside - I've been meening to hang it under the verandah for a while now so I can watch the box while in the spa - could be the perfect excuse. ;)

As I'm out of the loop big time I've got no idea who is racing and who half the drivers are for that matter, but I'll do a bit of homework between now and then and come back to you on who I'll be going for. :)

Enjoy your breakfast Pickles - sounds like you're on a winner. :)

[Chops]

Can't wait, the big day is almost upon me.
Telecast starts from Thursday, &, of course, I shall be watching.
Numerous practice sessions, qualifying, strategies, shoot out, problems etc etc, it'll all be happening!
But it's not only the racing, there's a nice bit of tucker involved too, my "Bathurst Big Breakfast", which will be served up to me around 7.00am Sunday morning,...a couple of fried eggs, sausages, fried potatoes, a few rashers of bacon, mushrooms, tomatoes & a couple of pieces of fried bread,....aahh...I can smell it already!
Of course, I know from previous comments that not many of you guys will be watching, but I've been watching it since the 327 Monaro days,.... remember when Ch 7 "televised" it, & they used to "cross" to Casey & Jack's "World Of Sport" supposedly for ONE hour, I remember one year when it was almost THREE,....a few phone calls were made to Ch 7 that day!!....don't have to worry about that now, so all is good!
My "tip",...Whincup/Dumbrell, although at Bathurst the best of plans can go wrong for a multitude of reasons,....I'll be interested to see how Richie Stanaway goes, I can see a big future for him.
I know there are a HUGE number of enthusiasts on the Forum,....Lol!!,....but I shall nevertheless enjoy conversing with you all.
Looking forward to "The Great Race", Pickles.
NB:The Brock Commodore Owners Association of Australia, of which I am a founding member, is having their "Brocktober" function at Bathurst during the race weekend, so there will be many nice Brock Commodores to be seen.


You want some company Martin? [biggrin]

[Zeros]

I'm nowhere near being in the Bathurst loop LOL 🙃 and while I know virtually nothing about the cars or the drivers, I enjoy the institution of the race. A huge day like the AFL grand final, another celebration of our cultural diversity. ...hope you have a brilliant day Pickles! and in 2018! 😜👍

[Pickles2]

Getting a bit ahead of yourself Pickles, Bathurst 2018 is about fifty-three weeks away.

BIG BIG Boo Boo,..but I'm old, so i know you'll excuse me,.....please!
Pickles.

[lyonsy]

i just hope David Reynolds goes good the last larkin in the field

[V8Ian]

BIG BIG Boo Boo,..but I'm old, so i know you'll excuse me,.....please!
Pickles.
Glad I'm not the only one, [biggrin] I knew what you meant but wasn't going to let you off that easily. [tonguewink]

[Pickles2]

i just hope David Reynolds goes good the last larkin in the field
I'm with you 100%,....He is a pretty special guy, & Betty has been good for the sport too, so yes, if David was to win, I'd be super happy.
Pickles.

[Tombie]

Oh yippee. The V8 Taxis are on again [emoji6][emoji41]

[Vern]

Oh yippee. The V8 Taxis are on again [emoji6][emoji41][emoji42][emoji42][emoji42][emoji42][emoji42][emoji6]

[Zeros]

I'm with you 100%,....He is a pretty special guy, & Betty has been good for the sport too, so yes, if David was to win, I'd be super happy.
Pickles.

Hey Pickles, I'll come if you need someone to help you cope with that breakfast!? ...yeah go David! [bigwhistle][wink11] But seriously, I'd be keen to go with someone knowledgable.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Yep, first beer cracked at the drop of the Flag, all day in front of the box, enjoyment level mostly decided these days by amount of ads and safety cars[bighmmm][bighmmm]. Who do I want to win? dont care,, like this years NRL GF,, as long as the racing is close it will be fine (unlike the boring GF).

[Pickles2]

Hey Pickles, I'll come if you need someone to help you cope with that breakfast!? ...yeah go David! [bigwhistle][wink11] But seriously, I'd be keen to go with someone knowledgable.
I've been to the circuit, driven around it several times both ways in my road car, but never been there for the actual race.
A very good friend of mine, an ex President of the HSVOC used to go up for the 3 days of practice, Quali, etc, and then He would drive home on Saturday night to watch the race at home, on TV on Sunday. I know another guy that went for 30+ years in a row, until He passed away. He simply would not miss it.
It'd be good to go, but getting there, crowds, parking, accommodation etc, naahh, can't be bothered, the only way I'd go is if I got some "corporate deal", but not knowing the right "corporate" individuals, there's not much hope of that!
Being the enthusiast that I am, as are many of my friends, I have several opportunities each year to watch it as a group, but I actually prefer to be at home, watching it by myself (with Wifey of course, who watches the race from time to time, but more importantly provides appropriate cuppas etc!), and I know a few others who are the same!
All I ask for, is a rain free race, there are those who think that rain "adds" stuff, not me, I prefer a good, fast, incident free race.
Pickles.
By the way Zeros, re your post, if you watch the TV coverage (Foxtel is best IMHO, but not everyone agrees!) over the 3 days, take note of the pit lane comment stuff, you will definitely be "knowledgeable" by race end!
Cheers, Pickles.

[Zeros]

🙃 cheers Pickles, the pit crew action is definitely the most interesting to me...and here I was thinking you'd get me an AAA pass! lol 😂👍

[Pickles2]

🙃 cheers Pickles, the pit crew action is definitely the most interesting to me...and here I was thinking you'd get me an AAA pass! lol 😂👍
Lol!!
Yes, listening to Ingall (very good), Greg Murphy, Skaifey etc & some of the pit managers & drivers etc during the pit-lane interviews, over the three days of the telecast, ya'll soon learn what's, "going on".
Pickles.

[Zeros]

Lol!!
Yes, listening to Ingall (very good), Greg Murphy, Skaifey etc & some of the pit managers & drivers etc during the pit-lane interviews, over the three days of the telecast, ya'll soon learn what's, "going on".
Pickles.

He he... someone might pop up and offer us an AAA pass [thumbsupbig]

...slightly off topic - it's not Bathurst, but I saw these Andreas Gursky photographs at the NGV a few years ago... extraordinary images of F1 pit lane action.

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[grey_ghost]

Hi Pickles2,
I've watched the race from the top of the mountain a few times. I think once when the real cars were going around (loved it when the R32 GTR one [wink11]) and also the first year of the V8's.

I also watched 2 of the 12 hours - both times the RX7's won (from memory).

Me - I prefer to watch it from home, because as others have said - you get better coverage.. I've "experienced" the neanderthals behaviour on the top of the mountain, and don't wish to experience it again.. Things may have changed since I was last up there though. I did contemplate taking the 101 up and camping there, but decided against it..

Yep - the day in front of the TV, with various supplies (read: food & grog) and I'll probably watch some of it this year...

I'd like Lowndes to win - not because of the car he's driving, but because of the driver...

Cheers,
GG.

[Pickles2]

Yes Grey Ghost, I've heard & seen the rubbish stuff that can go on up at the top of the mountain,...definitely not my scene.
I reckon the overwhelming majority of fans would like Craig to win, and ya know what, He's got a great car, a great crew, and a great team, so he absolutely could.
However, the cars are so equal, that with a bit of luck (and you do need some luck at Bathurst!), anybody basically in the top 20 has a chance,....then ya've got safety cars, accidents, wrong fuel strategy, tyre wear etc etc etc, it's a real lottery, which IMHO is what makes the race......You sure ain't gonna see a Brock/A9X scenario with a driver winning by six laps because the car was so good!
Pickles.

[DiscoMick]

I'll watch it too. Even been to the Gold Coast race a couple of times.
My brother is a mad fan who goes every year with several mates. He's told me a few stories about what happens on the mountain. Not my scene.
The TV coverage is so good that actually being there you would miss so much. Mind you, it's a special thing to stand next to the fence and have one of those cars blat past just metres away - hard to describe.

[Homestar]

Used to love spending a bit of time on the Mountain with the hoons when I used to go - it has changed a heap though in the last 10 or so years according to a mate that's been gong for 25 plus years, I haven't been for some time. Used to be ****ed idiots driving around unregistered cars - how no one got killed is beyond me. It has been sterilised a bit though as now you can't even have a motorised esky or couch any more which sort of sucks the fun out of it a bit
IMO.

Haven't been back since they made it all 'family friendly' everywhere - that's not a criticism either, it's bought in a whole different demographic but some of the fun that used to be had is very much frowned upon these days - can't even stuff some fireworks in your mates tent when he pikes it early any more... [bigwhistle]

Hmmm, just trying to remember the last time I was there - it was 2 years after that HUGE wet weekend when there was a torrent of water running down the pit lane - never been so wet in my life, couldn't even get a tent peg to stay in the ground... :D. So, when was that? I'm probably going to feel old when someone tells me the answer...

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Godzilla won?

[Homestar]

No, after that - the race itself wasn't that wet, just a few afternoon showers but it bucketed down on Thursday and Friday and rained all night Saturday clearing in the early hours of Sunday morning - I've never seen so many bogged cars in one spot - the car parks were quagmires. I think Friday morning there was a foot of water running down pit lane at one stage. It would require someone else who was there to remember it I think, but be stuffed if I can remember the year - would have been 15 or 20 years ago. Had to sleep in the car as the tent wouldn't stay up and no one at all managed to get a fire going. We were camped at the Vietnam Vets campsite - it was almost beyond words how bad it was. :)

Good times... :D

[numpty]

You sure ain't gonna see a Brock/A9X scenario with a driver winning by six laps because the car was so good!
Pickles.

It always amuses me when the commentators rave on about how close the finish is/was. They never mention it's all to do with the safety car.

[ramblingboy42]

The safety car is as much a part of the race as the race cars themselves.
Tactics allowing for the safety car position cars for a close finish.
I didn't realise how many close , and I mean incredibly close , finishes there have been , until I have been watching all the history on Foxtel.
For pure motor racing spectacle and drama there is nothing like it in the world.
I cannot actually recall a boring race.

[Pickles2]

The safety car is as much a part of the race as the race cars themselves.
Tactics allowing for the safety car position cars for a close finish.
I didn't realise how many close , and I mean incredibly close , finishes there have been , until I have been watching all the history on Foxtel.
For pure motor racing spectacle and drama there is nothing like it in the world.
I cannot actually recall a boring race.
G'Day Rambling,...EXACTLY the way I feel.
Sometimes ya think ya know what's going to happen, who's gonna win etc, who's made a blue, a mistake, whatever, and then "SOMETHING" really does happen, the race gets turned upside down,...and it's a whole new ball game,....that's Bathurst!
Pickles.

[rangieman]

Yep, first beer cracked at the drop of the Flag, all day in front of the box, enjoyment level mostly decided these days by amount of ads and safety cars[bighmmm][bighmmm]. Who do I want to win? dont care,, like this years NRL GF,, as long as the racing is close it will be fine (unlike the boring GF).
Many a year spent like this :twobeers:
But the beers have slowed down a bit of late [bigwhistle]
Yes i will be watching that ever so boring taxi racing on the mountain for sure[thumbsupbig]

[ballbag]

Love Bathurst, better than Christmas.

Caught all of day 1 practice on telly at work. Some of them were having a red hot go. The Giz and Slade hard into the wall over Skyline already. Chaz nearly a repeat of his leg-breaking stack.

With the Prodrive cars doing well at Sandown, DJR Penske looking very slick, Pye and Luff in the Walkinshaw and Dumbrell with Whincup killing it as usual, Lowndes and Richards tidy as usual, it's shaping up to be a great race.

Big Kevving!

[Pickles2]

yes Ballbag, excellent first day for sure, with a few "incidents".
The BIG news from yesterday was the announcement from the principal of Walkinshaw Racing, Ryan Walkinshaw, that He has secured three new business partners including Andretti Autosport & United Autosports. Andretti has already mentioned that they are relishing the prospect of competing against their well known "ädversary" Roger Penske. The third new "member" is Zak Brown, executive director of McLaren Technology, so there's certainly some "heavyweights" coming onboard.
There is also a sensational new circuit at Tailem Bend, with 18 rounds set in stone for next year.
So, it appears to me, that despite all the negativity from some, Supercars is looking pretty good, with two big U.S. names, Penske & Andretti involved, and particularly in view of the very tight sponsorship/dollar situation existing in Aussie.
Supercar quali this afternoon, Top Ten tomorrow, My "Big Bathurst Breakfast" followed by the race on Sunday,.....gotta be happy with that!
Pickles.

[Pickles2]

yes Ballbag, excellent first day for sure, with a few "incidents".
The BIG news from yesterday was the announcement from the principal of Walkinshaw Racing, Ryan Walkinshaw, that He has secured three new business partners including Andretti Autosport & United Autosports. Andretti has already mentioned that they are relishing the prospect of competing against their well known "ädversary" Roger Penske. The third new "member" is Zak Brown, executive director of McLaren Technology, so there's certainly some "heavyweights" coming onboard.
There is also a sensational new circuit at Tailem Bend, with 18 rounds set in stone for next year.
So, it appears to me, that despite all the negativity from some, Supercars is looking pretty good, with two big U.S. names, Penske & Andretti involved, and particularly in view of the very tight sponsorship/dollar situation existing in Aussie.
Supercar quali this afternoon, Top Ten tomorrow, My "Big Bathurst Breakfast" followed by the race on Sunday,.....gotta be happy with that!
Pickles.
Just thinking, for some of you guys who're not really interested, and that's fair enough, there's some forms of motorsport I'm not interested in too, but if you can, watch a practise session, quali etc, and listen to how the cars are adjusted/tuned etc, how the times come down, and you might learn a little bit about how complex & hi tec these cars really are, even for taxis!? For example,..these guys go as hard as they can in every session, but Warren Luff, one of the best co-drivers, has gone from a first session practise time of 2.07.7, to a second session of 2.06.78, to a third practise session this morning of 2.05.45,just through the continual & complex adjustments that can be made to many parts of the car!...I find it enthralling to learn how it's done.

[lyonsy]

A fair bit of that time gain will be laps and the track rubbering in

[Homestar]

Just thinking, for some of you guys who're not really interested, and that's fair enough, there's some forms of motorsport I'm not interested in too, but if you can, watch a practise session, quali etc, and listen to how the cars are adjusted/tuned etc, how the times come down, and you might learn a little bit about how complex & hi tec these cars really are, even for taxis!? For example,..these guys go as hard as they can in every session, but Warren Luff, one of the best co-drivers, has gone from a first session practise time of 2.07.7, to a second session of 2.06.78, to a third practise session this morning of 2.05.45,just through the continual & complex adjustments that can be made to many parts of the car!...I find it enthralling to learn how it's done.

What times and channel - or it only Foxtel viewers get this now? I know the main race is telecast on FTA but didn't think anything else was, but if it is, I'll tune in.

[Pickles2]

What times and channel - or it only Foxtel viewers get this now? I know the main race is telecast on FTA but didn't think anything else was, but if it is, I'll tune in.
Hello Gav.
Ch 10, today mid-day to 5.00pm, Sat 11.30am-6.00pm, Sun 7.30am-6.00pm!
You need to ascertain the practise, quali, TT shootout times, so you can watch them,....get on to Supercars.com & go to tv schedule!
Hope you enjoy, Pickles.

[Pickles2]

A fair bit of that time gain will be laps and the track rubbering in
Very true, there is definitely some plus there, but by no means all,...and the cars have to be tuned/adjusted to make the most of whatever the conditions are, they also have to be as fast as possible in quali , TT shootout etc, and then adjusted back to what will be a long distance driveable racecar, not simply a one lap weapon. The engineers have a most important part to play.
Pickles.

[Pickles2]

Quali is on NOW!
Pickles.

[pop058]

Just a bit of nostalgia for the petrol heads among us. It has been 40 years. [bigsmile1]

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[Homestar]

Quali is on NOW!
Pickles.

Only just got home, so that's a bummer. Will tune in tomorrow.

[Pickles2]

Final practise on NOW.
Top Ten Shootout this afternoon, 5.10pm.
Pickles.

[ramblingboy42]

I HAVE to do advanced resuscitation course 9am tomorrow.
why do people schedule these things on days like grand finals and Bathurst?

[Homestar]

I HAVE to do advanced resuscitation course 9am tomorrow.
why do people schedule these things on days like grand finals and Bathurst?

Bugger, that's one reason I changed jobs 8 years ago so I didn't have to work weekends or public holidays, I was always working when my family was home. I feel for you. :(

[ballbag]

It's been sensational so far. Plenty of cars with great speed but Scott MCL absolutely on fire, shedding tenths every almost every lap. The looks on their faces when the TV crews get hold of them say it all - they are absolutely flying across the top this year. It's, in the true sense of the word, awesome.

Check this out - Murphy with the new donk
Greg Murphy debuts Holden V6 Twin-turbo engine at Mt Panorama ahead of the Bathurst 1000 - YouTube (https://youtu.be/UTdU5y35-FQ)

[incisor]

i personally think the channel 10 coverage so far is an abomination.

you get 1.5 laps in a 6 lap race then 3 laps of adverts then the last 1.5 laps.

rather work on my landies than tolerate that sort of crap, most infuriating experience

[Pickles2]

i personally think the channel 10 coverage so far is an abomination.

you get 1.5 laps in a 6 lap race then 3 laps of adverts then the last 1.5 laps.

rather work on my landies than tolerate that sort of crap, most infuriating experience

Dave, you are 1000% correct, which is why I got Foxtel, virtually no ads, and on the rare occasion they do come on, part of the tv screen carries on with the telecast, plus of course the foxtel coverage has many other favorable aspects if ya're a "Supercar Tragic" like me.
So, yep, the Ch 10 coverage is defintely not up to it,..annoying, & spoils the enjoyment of good racing, IMHO.
Pickles.

[Homestar]

Well after having Foxtel for years I can't see how the advers are any better, or any fewer - it's one of the main reasons I ditched it.

Yes, the coverage today has driven me nuts - same ads every time, hardly worth watching but I have tried while in between working outside on the deck. If you take all the ads and safety cars out, the 10 minutes of racing in between has been good to watch.

[Pickles2]

Just heard something "ominous" from the lovely Jess on the Supercars Bathurst telecast,...a throwaway line just before the end of today's program,...."We're going to be running Ch 10's ads tomorrow"????......Don't like the sound of that.
Pickles.

[Homestar]

Well you'll get to see all about Q led tv's and supercrap auto....

[trog]

Let the network and advertisers know that you won't purchase their wares. Get enough support maybe things will change.
It was the same last week trying to watch the grand final, an ad after each goal. Galling after watching a full season ad free , only to have the gf on free to air commercial broadcast.

[Homestar]

I never purchase anything I see on telly I don't think - they don't seem to advertise the sort of stuff I like to buy like old land rovers and caravans. :)

Easier just to hit the mute button I find. I'm not going to let it put me off, I'm looking forward to tomorrow's race. :)

[Pickles2]

I never purchase anything I see on telly I don't think - they don't seem to advertise the sort of stuff I like to buy like old land rovers and caravans. :)

Easier just to hit the mute button I find. I'm not going to let it put me off, I'm looking forward to tomorrow's race. :)
Glad to hear that Gav,..it will be a ripper,...Scotty just did the first .03 lap, & still had some in reserve!....He's on pole, but Davey Reynolds from Erebus did a ripper as well,....and Erebus re showing what a small, dedicated team can still do in "The Great Race".
The only thing that will spoil it for me will be, if it comes, rain,..I like a good clean fast race, but that's just me,...others say it makes the race more interesting.
Pickles.

[Homestar]

Oh, I should have mentioned who I'll be going for - it is hard to go past Lowndes for me as he's both a Holden man and someone I recognise and like but I have to say I'm probably going to hedge my bets and jump on the Scotty bandwagon as well, I really like that young kid - he comes across as a really level headed all around nice guy - even though I'm not so keen on his choice of ride :)

Missed the shootout unfortunately - I got a better offer, so hopefully they'll replay some of the highlights in the morning before the race. :)

[Gordie]

Go Kiwis in Fords.

[Pickles2]

If anyone's gonna watch the race, I suggest they tune in early to get as much as what's happening "behind the scenes" as possible, pit lane stuff, talking to crews, engineers, drivers, talking strategy etc etc,....there will be a lot going on.
From 7.15 on foxtel & 7.30 on 10.
Pickles.

[scarry]

Rain is forecast,so that will spice things up,as it always does...

[Pickles2]

Aaahh, the big day is here!
We are up & about at home, & my Bathurst "Big Breakfast" is on the way.
Now don't forget, you "taxi brigade" guys, if all ya're gonna watch is the racecars circulating around Mt. Panorama, ya'll not understand what it's all about. I simply suggest that you listen to & watch the pit crew/pit lane stuff/interviews etc, so you can maybe get a bit more understanding of what it takes to make these cars go round!
Hope you enjoy, I will be, Pickles.
NB: Not looking forward to the rain.

[DiscoMick]

It should be great.
There is another race starting today which, while slower, is actually more important for the future. I'd love to go out there and follow it one year.

Belgian team hopes to make history in 3,000km solar race across Australia World Solar Challenge: Belgian team hopes to make history in sun-powered race across Australia - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://ab.co/2y6BcP9) - via @abcnews

[Homestar]

I had to cook my big breaky myself as SWMBO is in Sydney today, but it turned out ok. Just watched the Classic Tourers - now they were awesome to watch. Looking forward to the big race. :)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/10/156.jpg

[Pickles2]

Well done Gav, GREAT way to start the day!
Pickles.

[grey_ghost]

I’m on the couch and ready...

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/10/162.jpg

[Pickles2]

350 crew, 200 cameras, ..part of the reason the telecast is so good.
Wet start,.....strategy out the window,..... anything can happen!!
About to start,...all is good. Pickles.

[AllTerr]

It has and will be a very interesting race for sure.... Very very wet up there

[ballbag]

****ing ads!!!!!

[Pickles2]

It has and will be a very interesting race for sure.... Very very wet up there
Yes, for sure.
I find the strategy to be the interesting part, fuel stops, brakes, driver changes, and when to do all this stuff to make the best decision so as to try to improve your track position.
Watch for co-driver Ritchie Stanaway, only 25 but lots of UK experience, very little here, but won the Sandown 500 with Cam Waters.
Pickles.

[V8Ian]

Can anyone lend Scotty a Nanocom?

[Pickles2]

Can anyone lend Scotty a Nanocom?
I think they already tried a remap, but it didn't work!
Pickles.

[Homestar]

Lack of a safety car has been very good, and it's challenging all the teams strategies. It's also put several cars back a lap that may not have had there been some, so certainly making it interesting.

Sort of glad I'm not at the track this year - 'tis a bit damp...

[Pickles2]

Safety Car,...which will enable Triple 8 car 97 "The Giz" to catch up,...He is a whiz in the wet, so watch car 97.
Terrible race conditions,..it's all happening...Not half way yet!!
Pickles.

[Pickles2]

286kph down Conrod, other cars around you, can't see with a misted up w/screen,...glad I'm not in that car!.....and now a Kangaroo.
Pickles.

[Pickles2]

Track may be drying out a bit, in which case, dry tyres will be required?!
Pickles.

[V8Ian]

No sooner were the words out of his mouth, came reports of more rain in pit lane.

[Pickles2]

No sooner were the words out of his mouth, came reports of more rain in pit lane.
But that's Bathurst!
Pickles.

[DiscoMick]

Can barely see the cars for the fog.

[V8Ian]

There'll be a bit of buffing to do during the week!

[AllTerr]

Good on Dave Reynolds... Excellent win!

[incisor]

yep was an excellent result imho

well done!

[grey_ghost]

I must be getting old - I fell asleep for most of the race! I did wake up for the end though! [emoji1303]

[Pickles2]

Well, I know there are many detractors for this type of racing on the forum,....fair enough, there's lots of sports I don't like either, for one reason or another.
However, as a person who has watched this race sinse it was first telecast in what?..1968, this is THE BEST "Bathurst" that I have ever experienced.
Simply an amazing race,...... who knew who was going to be the winner, until the last few laps?
And for Betty, who has taken plenty of knocks, and the Erebus Team, a well deserved result,....the "little guy" can still win.
Well done Betty Klimenko.
Pickles.

[Pickles2]

I must be getting old - I fell asleep for most of the race! I did wake up for the end though! [emoji1303]
Too many reds?!!.....I saved "some" of mine until after the event!
Regards, Pickles

[ezyrama]

Sat on top of the mountain today and watched the whole race. Fantastic finish

[Zeros]

Those drivers are some kind of crazy! Loved it!

[1950landy]

I'am a Ford man , but was happy that sombody other than the All Bull team won. Good to see Dave Rennolds get there he has always been an under rated hard driver & the luck has not always been on his side.

[scarry]

Great win by the Erebus team[bigsmile1]


Just imagine the Red Bull teams talk in the garage after the race..

umm,i wonder if we can work out a way of not throwing Bathurst wins away...

[Pickles2]

Aahh well, it's Monday morning, now have to get back to normal after a most memorable Bathurst.
I normally don't like a rain affected race, but this time it was not heavy enough to cause "rivers" across the track, but certainly enough to test all drivers, & put strategies out the window.
Second biggest crowd ever, which is pretty good, considering the wet day yesterday. I also read that Bathurst is the biggest sporting event in NSW, but I don't know whether that would be true or not.
It will be interesting to see how the additional partners to the Walkinshaw Team work out,...three separate owners,...a bit different to the Penske inclusion,..everybody knows who "pulls the strings" there.
Pickles.

[donh54]

Great win by the Erebus team[bigsmile1]


Just imagine the Red Bull teams talk in the garage after the race..

umm,i wonder if we can work out a way of not throwing Bathurst wins away...

I really feel for young Matt Campbell (a local feller), VGs co-driver. In the running for a 1st, or at least a podium, and the Boss throws it to the weeds on the restart. How would you be??

[bigwhistle][bigwhistle]

[Tote]

I'am a Ford man , but was happy that sombody other than the All Bull team won. Good to see Dave Rennolds get there he has always been an under rated hard driver & the luck has not always been on his side.

Absolutely the same thoughts here

Regards,
Tote

[DiscoMick]

Great entertainment. The rain made it about skill not speed so that was good to watch.

[Gordie]

It was so entertaining that for the first time ever, I sat and watched the whole race...full of action and unpredictability, twists and turns in strategy, best laid plans out the window...it had it all...bring on the rain for next year!!

[scarry]

I really feel for young Matt Campbell (a local feller), VGs co-driver. In the running for a 1st, or at least a podium, and the Boss throws it to the weeds on the restart. How would you be??

[bigwhistle][bigwhistle]

Blood amazing,

That 97 went up the escape road at least 7 times,Matt had it spun on the mountain, and did a 3 pointer to get going again,bloody lucky not to get T boned.

Then as you said,it was off into the weeds towards the end,while leading,then stormed back to eventually get 5th i think.

Thats Bathurst[smilebigeye][smilebigeye]

What went wrong with Wingecups car?I missed the bit when it was in the garage.maybe we will never know.

[CraigE]

Blood amazing,

That 97 went up the escape road at least 7 times,Matt had it spun on the mountain, and did a 3 pointer to get going again,bloody lucky not to get T boned.

Then as you said,it was off into the weeds towards the end,while leading,then stormed back to eventually get 5th i think.

Thats Bathurst[smilebigeye][smilebigeye]

What went wrong with Wingecups car?I missed the bit when it was in the garage.maybe we will never know.

Whincupp's car dropped a rocker. They did get it ourt for 2 laps before the end so he could be classed as a finisher with 75% race distance completed, pick up a few points and become equal second in the championship with Scott McLaughlan.
Was a great race. Very Happy to see Erebus get a 1st and 4th, well deserved. Great team and very approachable. Takes a bit to get used to Daves quirky sense of humour, but is a nice guy.

[ballbag]

Cracking race, great result for Reynolds, Youlden and Erebus. A shame for McClaughlin. Can't believe Moffat went so far without stacking it. How good were Waters/Stanaway and Mostert/Owen. Some great young drivers giving it a serious go. What's the story with Slade - that's at least the second time I've seen him delerious with heat exhaustion.

[Pickles2]

Whincupp's car dropped a rocker. They did get it ourt for 2 laps before the end so he could be classed as a finisher with 75% race distance completed, pick up a few points and become equal second in the championship with Scott McLaughlan.
Was a great race. Very Happy to see Erebus get a 1st and 4th, well deserved. Great team and very approachable. Takes a bit to get used to Daves quirky sense of humour, but is a nice guy.
They initially thought it was a rocker, but the cause actually turned turned out to be a faulty valve, an issue that they had not encountered before, and which they are now investigating with their engine builder.
Pickles.

[CraigE]

Cracking race, great result for Reynolds, Youlden and Erebus. A shame for McClaughlin. Can't believe Moffat went so far without stacking it. How good were Waters/Stanaway and Mostert/Owen. Some great young drivers giving it a serious go. What's the story with Slade - that's at least the second time I've seen him delerious with heat exhaustion.

Cool suit failure, even though they were putting dry ice in the box when he pitted it was not working.
But does show the young guys don't have the same stamina as the guys in the 60.70s and even 80's. Having said all that they should have gotten him out of the car.

[Pickles2]

Cool suit failure, even though they were putting dry ice in the box when he pitted it was not working.
But does show the young guys don't have the same stamina as the guys in the 60.70s and even 80's. Having said all that they should have gotten him out of the car.
They actually do have the same stamina, actually, if ya look at the training & fitness stuff that these guys do, I'd say a whole heap more.
The problem with today's cars is, unlike cars of earlier eras, the windows do not wind down, and so there is no way to get air in the car, so ya've got temps of 50C+, and no air circulation,..never a problem with earlier stuff,....IMHO of course.
Pickles.

[CraigE]

They actually do have the same stamina, actually, if ya look at the training & fitness stuff that these guys do, I'd say a whole heap more.
The problem with today's cars is, unlike cars of earlier eras, the windows do not wind down, and so there is no way to get air in the car, so ya've got temps of 50C+, and no air circulation,..never a problem with earlier stuff,....IMHO of course.
Pickles.

Yes and no. They took out both the passenger side and drivers side windows in an attempt to cool him down.
Remember no cool suits in the early days. Only real difference was helmets, you could wear an open face. Not sure how you come to the conclusion not an issue in earlier stuff, the only thing they could do different was windows down. Look at guys like Brock that could drive a whole race well over 6 1/2 hrs. There are obviously a lot more variables including higher car speed etc
All that aside they should have pulled him from the car as his core temp was through the roof even visibly.

[rick130]

Cool suit failure, even though they were putting dry ice in the box when he pitted it was not working.
But does show the young guys don't have the same stamina as the guys in the 60.70s and even 80's. Having said all that they should have gotten him out of the car.Craig, these blokes are 1000 times fitter than the drivers thirty years ago.

The modern cars are beasts to drive drive, and they are at near 100% for most of the time.
Back in the day they had to cruise to preserve the car.

[mick88]

They actually do have the same stamina, actually, if ya look at the training & fitness stuff that these guys do, I'd say a whole heap more.
The problem with today's cars is, unlike cars of earlier eras, the windows do not wind down, and so there is no way to get air in the car, so ya've got temps of 50C+, and no air circulation,..never a problem with earlier stuff,....IMHO of course.
Pickles.

And with the rain tossed in, imagine what the humidity must have been like in those vehicles.
These vehicles are most likely running a lot hotter thermostats than the vehicles from the days of old, so that would up the temp in the office for the drivers.

Cheers, Mick.

[Homestar]

They actually do have the same stamina, actually, if ya look at the training & fitness stuff that these guys do, I'd say a whole heap more.
The problem with today's cars is, unlike cars of earlier eras, the windows do not wind down, and so there is no way to get air in the car, so ya've got temps of 50C+, and no air circulation,..never a problem with earlier stuff,....IMHO of course.
Pickles.

Pffft - all this technology and they can't run the AC....

Joking aside, I thought it was a great race - really loved the fact there was no safety cars for so long. The end of the race was just brilliant, and a great outcome. Felt sorry for Scotty, I must have put the moz on him after saying I wanted him to win.

[Pickles2]

I'm old, so I remember the "öld days", ..Peter Janson?....never ran in his life, but a ripper driver, Alan Brown (Recar) never did a scrap of exercise, Big Pete,..I doubt He ever even walked anywhere, Stormn Norman,....fitness was never an issue in the old days, most of the drivers were not even pros, they mostly had a "real job" during the week,...gymnasiums in team HQs?....Unheard of.
No, fitness, mental as well as physical, is a VERY big issue these days, as is telemetry, car "tuning" by the driver, during the race,...it's a very different ball game these days.
As someone said, & correctly, these cars are on the limit, all the time, as is the driver,.....however, I have to say this, if you can get to "the top",...the rewards can be good, very good in fact, better than they've ever been, which is the same in most sports today,...have a look at what AFL players make these days?!
Pickles.

[Pickles2]

Pffft - all this technology and they can't run the AC....

Joking aside, I thought it was a great race - really loved the fact there was no safety cars for so long. The end of the race was just brilliant, and a great outcome. Felt sorry for Scotty, I must have put the moz on him after saying I wanted him to win.
Glad you enjoyed it Gav, and your breakfast even if you did have to cook it yourself!
I'm not a fan of wet influenced Bathursts, but I have to say that this race was one of the best, could even be the best, (my memory is short!) that I've seen, but I reckon they're all good, just love Bathurst, can't wait for 2018!
A big part of Supercars, IMHO anyway, is understanding/looking at the various strategies, and how the cars are "tuned", in various ways, from first practice to quali, by which time they should be a much quicker car.

All good, Pickles.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

One of the things that happened in the pits,,

a NEW engine map installed in what,, 6 seconds?

and it worked on start up,, just not in the race[bigrolf]

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Yes and no. They took out both the passenger side and drivers side windows .

they tried,, [thumbsupbig]

would have been much better with a battery drill and a battery jigsaw,, its only plastic.....

[Zeros]

wimps! ... it's just like driving an old Defender or Perentie all day in northern Australia, build up season...temps often in excess of 50C![biggrin] [bigwhistle]