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bob10
6th October 2017, 10:05 PM
Australia's energy trainwreck: How we ended up with the world's highest power bills (http://www.msn.com/en-au/money/personalfinance/australias-energy-trainwreck-how-we-ended-up-with-the-worlds-highest-power-bills/ar-AAsXTDA?li=AA54Gb&ocid=spartandhp)

trog
7th October 2017, 12:43 AM
Give me something more than a cut and paste please.

Milton477
7th October 2017, 01:17 AM
Because we have to keep the shareholders happy.

AndyG
7th October 2017, 02:39 AM
Pretty sure the prices are higher in PNG, so the heading is wrong for a start,, had a blackout for the last month, so maybe that makes it the cheapest

bob10
7th October 2017, 10:40 PM
Give me something more than a cut and paste please.

Like what, for example? make something up?

Ausfree
8th October 2017, 09:21 AM
Like what, for example? make something up?

No Bob, you don't have to make something up, leave that to the experts........................The politicians.[bigwhistle]

Classic88
8th October 2017, 03:13 PM
Towns and other communities in Germany have been taking matters into their own hands by setting up their own, collective, renewable energy sources and cutting their reliance on the big energy producers. Maybe something similar could work here. Australia's not short of either sunshine or winds and after installation, running costs for renewables are very low.

Ausfree
8th October 2017, 03:27 PM
Towns and other communities in Germany have been taking matters into their own hands by setting up their own, collective, renewable energy sources and cutting their reliance on the big energy producers. Maybe something similar could work here. Australia's not short of either sunshine or winds and after installation, running costs for renewables are very low.
It really is a shame that the public has to do things like this because of the greed of large organisations. I have noticed that large operations have to make a record profit every year or they consider that they have failed their shareholders and the CEO who demands a multi million dollar annual salary.

rick130
8th October 2017, 04:07 PM
It really is a shame that the public has to do things like this because of the greed of large organisations. I have noticed that large operations have to make a record profit every year or they consider that they have failed their shareholders and the CEO who demands a multi million dollar annual salary.

It's actually the institutional shareholders that demand immediate returns, as well as older retirees that are living off their investments that are driving this so the outlook from companies is increasingly short term.
No one looks at 5 to 10 years ahead now, they get hammered in the press and at AGM's.

Pickles2
8th October 2017, 04:19 PM
Australia's energy trainwreck: How we ended up with the world's highest power bills (http://www.msn.com/en-au/money/personalfinance/australias-energy-trainwreck-how-we-ended-up-with-the-worlds-highest-power-bills/ar-AAsXTDA?li=AA54Gb&ocid=spartandhp)
I also read about this yesterday in the Press Bob.
I have my views, but if I raise them, it will become a C.A. issue,...couldn't have that.
In the article I read, S.A.'s power was indeed the dearest in the world,......by a big margin.
Pickles.

bob10
8th October 2017, 04:34 PM
I also read about this yesterday in the Press Bob.
I have my views, but if I raise them, it will become a C.A. issue,...couldn't have that.
In the article I read, S.A.'s power was indeed the dearest in the world,......by a big margin.
Pickles.

Yeah, we have to watch the thought police, [bigwhistle]just joking, ....no...really. Anyone tried the Tesla power wall?

Powerwall | The Tesla Home Battery (https://www.tesla.com/en_AU/powerwall'redirect=no)

bee utey
8th October 2017, 08:43 PM
I also read about this yesterday in the Press Bob.
I have my views, but if I raise them, it will become a C.A. issue,...couldn't have that.
In the article I read, S.A.'s power was indeed the dearest in the world,......by a big margin.
Pickles.

Funny thing is, when my "one of the big 3" foreign owned retailer sent me a letter outlining the July 1 rate hikes I did my research and found a much cheaper retailer. That suggests that the prices have little to do with SA's policies and everything to do with collusion between the rip off merchants.