Jacking point front centre

[northiam]

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According to the D4 workshop manual this hole is the central front jacking point? After placing stands at the chassis rail the jack can be removed and belly cover unbolted Thinking an 25mm adapter to hold/locate trolley jack pad also?
Regards

[Tombie]

But why? [emoji6]

[northiam]

But why? [emoji6]


So I can...
Remove the cover to:
Drain engine oil (the old fashion way) no suction pump thingy
Inspect under side of engine bay
Inpect coolant hoses for problems
Look for potential issues
Admire my new D4 (to me) purchase from another angle.
Pretend to the mrs I'm maintaining the car whislt she mows the lawn!
[bigsmile1]

[cripesamighty]

The last one is the most important..... [biggrin]

[matti4556]

For what its worth - Had to change my oil last weekend, and halfway to the shed to get out my jacks and associated paraphernalia etc I said "stuff it!" and put the car in off-road height and added LLAMS +40.
Put 2 jack stands under the chassis and used the rattle gun to remove the sump guard bolts. Lots of room to get the rattle gun under with a short 13mm socket, get my fat guts under there too and also make it look like I was fixing the car while the wife mowed the lawn!
Sometimes the answer is right in front of you. - Matti

[DiscoJeffster]

I do all my general servicing the same way, though for oil I use my extractor.

[northiam]

Made jack adapter

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Rear centre hole








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[Geedublya]

I just use a piece of hardwood on top of my jack. Process is use IID tool to lift suspension to maximum, slide jack under front cross member, jack until both front wheels are off the ground, place stands under chassis, lower jack and remove wheels as required. If I just want to access the sump guard I just raise suspension to maximum and jack stand for safety.
I have access to a hoist but it is a 20 minute drive so only gets used when I want everything at working height. On my latest oil change I vacuumed the oil out and it was much easier.

[Tombie]

That’s what I’m thinking Geedublya,

It lifts high enough sans jack to just go under there and do the task at hand.

Even easier with the Stahlbus Fitted [emoji106]

[Aussie Jeepster]

I do all my general servicing the same way, though for oil I use my extractor.
I've always warmed the engine, then removed the drain plug and let the oil flow out.
My theory being that it will carry out any grunge that is sitting in the sump.
I've never used a suction extractor, but am prepared to reconsider what I do for ease of use. The body is not getting any younger, but the brain does try to work smarter.
Is an oil extractor/vacuum a good idea? I'm assuming you shove a length of skinny tube down the dipstick and hook up to a small pump to suck it out.
Certainly sounds like a better idea to me - comments from the masses??????
Alan

[Tombie]

It’s how the 3.0 is done, there’s a thread somewhere on here about it..

A couple of guys then dropped the bottom to check for build up and found it completely clears the sump.

[northiam]

The crossmember you refer to is front point pictured?

To easy to slip off I reckon!

[DiscoJeffster]

The crossmember you refer to is front point pictured?

To easy to slip off I reckon!

If you’ve chocked the wheels you shouldn’t have that issue. Jacking one wheel however different story! I have a chassis adapter for my bottle jack.

[northiam]

Better chock the trolley jack wheels too then!

[DiscoJeffster]

Lol. Well in 25 years of lifting every vehicle under the sun I’ve never had a vehicle slip off a trolley jack, and that includes jacking on all sorts of surfaces in the middle of nowhere. It won’t hurt what you’ve done by any means, but whether it’s necessary is a different point. All about your level of risk acceptance

[northiam]

So most agree that a central jacking point may be necessary, enabling the use of stands on the chassis rails so the belly cover can be removed...

Eliminating the risk of the jack slipping off the crossmember is insignificant!

I jacked the D4 crossmember 600mm off the deck which may come in handy in future.[bigsmile]

[Geedublya]

I wasn’t criticising, you have done a great job. I just wanted others to see you can jack there without a special tool. Your option is the best way.

[Tombie]

Hey! Nothing wrong with doing it [emoji41] it’s good to know!


Just pointing out if my bulk can fit without jacking it up then anyone can [emoji13]

I’ve changed the fuel tank guard, fitted belly armour and installed a LR tank all using just the suspension...

[northiam]

I wasn’t criticising, you have done a great job. I just wanted others to see you can jack there without a special tool. Your option is the best way.
I didnt take as criticism.
I tried a block of wood between too but has the car jacked up that vertical motion becomes horiziontal as it pulls the jack along and starts slipping.
I did try a long coach bolt thru the wood block that went into the hole which seems to work too.
The adapter cost me $80 and I intend to keep this car for a longtime.

[DiscoJeffster]

I wish my jack could do that height effectively. My 2T low entry jack complains bitterly, which theoretically it shouldn’t. Most lift values are BS I accept.
Great for race cars however [emoji6]

[RANDLOVER]

I didnt take as criticism.
I tried a block of wood between too but has the car jacked up that vertical motion becomes horiziontal as it pulls the jack along and starts slipping.
I did try a long coach bolt thru the wood block that went into the hole which seems to work too.
The adapter cost me $80 and I intend to keep this car for a longtime.


Lol. Well in 25 years of lifting every vehicle under the sun I’ve never had a vehicle slip off a trolley jack, and that includes jacking on all sorts of surfaces in the middle of nowhere. It won’t hurt what you’ve done by any means, but whether it’s necessary is a different point. All about your level of risk acceptance

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[SimmAus]

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