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gromit
17th October 2017, 05:27 PM
I have a number of 100mm angle grinders, one with a cutting disc, one with a grinding disc and one with a big wire brush (there is also a 125mm and a huge Wolf grinder which kicks a bit on startup !).

Anyway, my favourite which is currently abused with a big wire brush fitted for removing rust from hubs, axle casings etc. is starting to fail.
At the weekend, after a short spell of vibration, it lost all drive. Turned out that the screws holding the guard also hold the front of the gearbox in place and had come loose. Tightened them and it was working again but it is getting noisy.
I purchased it in the UK at least 30years ago and it's had a hard life. Used for grinding & cutting then in more recent times it's been used for wire brushing It's a Black & Decker (Made by Black & Decker Italy) and only 450W. Probably out of warranty by now so I need a replacement.

The question is do I buy a name brand or a cheapy to replace it ?
My 125mm is an Ozito cheapy and the rubber cord protector where the cable exits the handle broke after a few uses over maybe 2 years. The B&D cord protector is still intact ! Do big names mean a better quality ? Will I be able to find one to last as long as the old B&D ?

I'll run the B&D till it fails but I will need another soon......

Colin

bee utey
17th October 2017, 05:59 PM
1. Virtually every new power tool is now made in China, make of that what you will.

2. Lots of people buy cheapies from Bunnings etc and are happy with them, just don't expect any spare parts to be available for them when they break.

3. I am now a 100% Dewalt user, I think they are great performers. A new one:

DeWalt Angle Grinder with Toggle Switch 800W 100mm 4" Power Corded DWE4001-XE | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DeWalt-Angle-Grinder-with-Toggle-Switch-800W-100mm-4-Power-Corded-DWE4001-XE-/232522182370?epid=697310430&hash=item362366eee2:g:YZcAAOSw3FNZlx5M)

And a hardly used one.

DEWALT DWE4001-XE 100mm (4") ANGLE GRINDER - 800W | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DEWALT-DWE4001-XE-100mm-4-ANGLE-GRINDER-800W-/282691332251?epid=697310430&hash=item41d1b7689b:g:FG4AAOSw4YdYy3Aj)

Homestar
17th October 2017, 06:09 PM
The last grinder I bought was over 20 years ago - a Hitachi, which is still going strong. No idea where these are made now - I guess China as is everything else so not sure what the quality of those is now.

I have a similar issue with a cordless drill at the moment - my 18 year old used and abused daily Snap On has **** the speed controller so it only goes flat out now, and doesn't brake when you release the trigger. Still wondering what to replace that with. Tried a DeWalt that a friend had but that didn't have a brake in it either, so pretty useless for what I need unless these is a model that does that - it certainly had no issues drilling some 1/2" holes in 6mm steel.

There seems to be a lot of love out there for DeWalt so I guess it must be pretty decent overall.

stealth
17th October 2017, 06:12 PM
I just buy the cheapies nowadays. The last $20 4” grinder I bought lasted five years. I then bought 3 $25 XU1 4” grinders from Bunnings, cutter, grinder, and flap wheel. Still going after two years with plenty of work. Worth having the extras just to save time swapping around blades. If need be you can find cheap carbon brushes on eBay to fit anything to keep them going.

Homestar
17th October 2017, 06:31 PM
I got given an XU1 cordless drill - it lasted 1/2 day - 2 charges of the battery. Had some decent GMC stuff - mostly woodworking stuff which I only use infrequently so that's probably why. I killed dads cheapy grinder in one use too, so depends how much you expect from them. My 125mm Hitachi gets to cut up 1/2" plate and other such stuff - stalled it more times than I can remember, had smoke coming out of it and it still going strong. Would like to see that from a cheapy.

nismine01
17th October 2017, 06:46 PM
Buy it (whatever) from Bunnings, (no, I don't have shares), 2 or 3 years replacement warranty. Even for cheap as chips models.

Regards

Mike

Disco-tastic
17th October 2017, 06:48 PM
I got given an XU1 cordless drill - it lasted 1/2 day - 2 charges of the battery. Had some decent GMC stuff - mostly woodworking stuff which I only use infrequently so that's probably why. I killed dads cheapy grinder in one use too, so depends how much you expect from them. My 125mm Hitachi gets to cut up 1/2" plate and other such stuff - stalled it more times than I can remember, had smoke coming out of it and it still going strong. Would like to see that from a cheapy.Hehe i have an aldi 1000W grinder with a variable spped that goes up to 7!(??).

I dont fabricate much metal stuff but it seems to go ok.

If its for wire brushing stuff on the car maybe a battery powered one might be the go for the comvenience factor.

A few builders i know use the ozito stuff due to the warranty (1yr commercial and 3yrs private). They just replace them if anything goes wrong, so if you abuse it and it breaks in 3 years go get a new one. Its no good if it dies during something important though...

Toxic_Avenger
17th October 2017, 06:49 PM
In my line of work, and the sites I visit, it's not uncommon to see a pile of dead grinders on the workshop floor. Foundaries are the worst for it.
Anything from the cheapies, up to hitachi, metabo, fein... they all die the same. I cut the middle and got a cheap model from a good brand- a little chinese metabo 4" 800W job. Suits me fine for what I need it for.
If you are a home gamer, go cheaper. Most of the cheapies these days will die before you need to get brushes or bearings for it, and even the primo ones have that much design obsolescence in them that spares will be hard to come by.
Most of the big manufacturers have Chinese made, and home country made products at different price points. Metabo for example have Chinese stuff, and their high end German stuff.

bee utey
17th October 2017, 06:56 PM
Tried a DeWalt that a friend had but that didn't have a brake in it either, so pretty useless for what I need unless these is a model that does that - it certainly had no issues drilling some 1/2" holes in 6mm steel.

There seems to be a lot of love out there for DeWalt so I guess it must be pretty decent overall.

The XRP models with the 3 speed gearbox certainly stop the instant you release the trigger. And with my big hands I can do some serious damage with one of them. Cranked over a VW 1200 Beetle engine with one. [thumbsupbig]

Slunnie
17th October 2017, 07:11 PM
Just about all of the power tools I get for work are Makita and they cop a flogging all day everyday. The Makita 100mm angle grinder is only about $90-100. It's what I bought for home also, except in 125mm.

weeds
17th October 2017, 07:16 PM
Does anybody use 4" anymore??

Lotz-A-Landies
17th October 2017, 07:40 PM
Yes I often use 4" because they're able to get into small spaces and are not so subject to awkward gyroscopic forces of the 125mm and particularly the 800mm ones.

I have had a Ryobi corded 100mm grinder for about 12 years which only recently burnt out. I also bought one of the cheapie Ozito grinders from Bunnings which only lasted a couple of months under the same usage profile as the Ryobi. Unfortunately I replaced the old Ryobi 100mm with a new Ryobi 100mm corded, only to find that the cutting disk safety shield is now held on with an over-centre clamp placed on the cutting side of the shield. This placement of the clamp inhibits the depth you can cut with the blade, so you have to remove the shield for tight spaces or waste a lot of the disc and use a new one.

All my other tools are Makita and I'd probably go with that next time, of course after checking the safety shield clamping arrangement.

trout1105
17th October 2017, 07:50 PM
I have just bought a bunch of cordless power tools (Ozito) from Bunnings that have a 5 year warranty dirt cheap, The last time I looked Dewalt had a 2 year warranty for the same tools.
Is it worth paying 5x as much for a brand name no matter how good they are ?, Personally I don't think so [thumbsupbig]

Vern
17th October 2017, 07:59 PM
I have just bought a bunch of cordless power tools (Ozito) from Bunnings that have a 5 year warranty dirt cheap, The last time I looked Dewalt had a 2 year warranty for the same tools.
Is it worth paying 5x as much for a brand name no matter how good they are ?, Personally I don't think so [thumbsupbig]I think so. My Milwaukee stuff with 2 year warranty is still going after +5 years, my dewalt stuff before that was the same. I can guarantee the ozito stuff wouldn't last 6 months in my hands. We're talking well over $1000 kit vs ???ozito

Lotz-A-Landies
17th October 2017, 08:05 PM
I have just bought a bunch of cordless power tools (Ozito) from Bunnings that have a 5 year warranty dirt cheap, The last time I looked Dewalt had a 2 year warranty for the same tools.
Is it worth paying 5x as much for a brand name no matter how good they are ?, Personally I don't think so [thumbsupbig]

A warranty doesn't help you when they burn out during a job and you have to find the receipt and a Bunnings to replace it before finishing the job. How many times would you have to claim your Ozito warranty in the 5 years if they only last a couple of months each time.

For me reliability and durability are more important

trout1105
17th October 2017, 08:08 PM
I think so. My Milwaukee stuff with 2 year warranty is still going after +5 years, my dewalt stuff before that was the same. I can guarantee the ozito stuff wouldn't last 6 months in my hands. We're talking well over $1000 kit vs ???ozito

If the Ozito fell over and died within 6 months in "Your Hands" then you would get a brand new one because of the 5 year warranty without having to spend hundreds of dollars more for the same tool because of the brand name when in reality most of these tools are manufactured in China anyway [bigwhistle]
Personally I would Much rather spend the quids on my Disco than on fancy brand name tools [thumbsupbig]

Vern
17th October 2017, 08:11 PM
If the Ozito fell over and died within 6 months in "Your Hands" then you would get a brand new one because of the 5 year warranty without having to spend hundreds of dollars more for the same tool because of the brand name when in reality most of these tools are manufactured in China anyway [bigwhistle]
Personally I would Much rather spend the quids on my Disco than on fancy brand name tools [thumbsupbig]Do you rely on your tools to make a living? No? Well i do, i don't want to be chasing up warranty every six months, i need reliability and power to match it.
Doesn't matter where they are made, its how and what they are made from that counts!

trout1105
17th October 2017, 08:14 PM
A warranty doesn't help you when they burn out during a job and you have to find the receipt and a Bunnings to replace it before finishing the job. How many times would you have to claim your Ozito warranty in the 5 years if they only last a couple of months each time.

For me reliability and durability are more important

I bought a cheap $20 Ozito drill once and it lasted nearly 10 years on the farm, Maybe you are too hard on your tools or don't look after them properly and need to spend the extra quids because of this [bigwhistle]

Vern
17th October 2017, 08:17 PM
On the farm? Did you use it everyday? All day?

Lotz-A-Landies
17th October 2017, 08:19 PM
I bought a cheap $20 Ozito drill once and it lasted nearly 10 years on the farm, Maybe you are too hard on your tools or don't look after them properly and need to spend the extra quids because of this [bigwhistle]

Maybe if you read all the posts you wouldn't be tempted to make silly statements! [bigwhistle]


Yes I often use 4" because they're able to get into small spaces and are not so subject to awkward gyroscopic forces of the 125mm and particularly the 800mm ones.

I have had a Ryobi corded 100mm grinder for about 12 years which only recently burnt out. I also bought one of the cheapie Ozito grinders from Bunnings which only lasted a couple of months under the same usage profile as the Ryobi. Unfortunately I replaced the old Ryobi 100mm with a new Ryobi 100mm corded, only to find that the cutting disk safety shield is now held on with an over-centre clamp placed on the cutting side of the shield. This placement of the clamp inhibits the depth you can cut with the blade, so you have to remove the shield for tight spaces or waste a lot of the disc and use a new one.

All my other tools are Makita and I'd probably go with that next time, of course after checking the safety shield clamping arrangement.

Chilly
17th October 2017, 08:22 PM
Guess there is a cordless v corded to think about here.

I have Makita cordless and find it magic to use....nine of the cords or distance from plug to worry about. Few spare batteries to keep my equipment going...one goes flat or low and swap and charge.

Especially handy when using multiple tools and not swapping connections or having lots of leads.....just something to think about.

Got a Hitachi corded...goes great as does my old....well its A Hitachi too, thought it was a Bosch....well over 10 years old...had it before emigrating.

I understand the cheap and long warranty argument but prefer a product to last and to work....nothing like being halfway through a job and then it craps itself......having to pack up to get it replaced is not always possible/easy!!

trout1105
17th October 2017, 08:25 PM
Do you rely on your tools to make a living? No? Well i do, i don't want to be chasing up warranty every six months, i need reliability and power to match it.
Doesn't matter where they are made, its how and what they are made from that counts!

We all know that a Dewalt is a better bit of kit But is it 8-10 times a better bit of kit which is represented in the price difference?
If you want reliability just buy 2-3 times as many Ozito tools "just in case" and you will be miles ahead $ wise.
If you do have a problem with a tool then you will still have the availability whilst you are waiting for a replacement or if you are out bush on a job and one of them karks it [biggrin]
And lets face it No tradesman worth his/her salt will rely on a single tool without a backup option anyway.

Homestar
17th October 2017, 08:29 PM
I bought a cheap $20 Ozito drill once and it lasted nearly 10 years on the farm, Maybe you are too hard on your tools or don't look after them properly and need to spend the extra quids because of this [bigwhistle]

It's not about abusing them, or being too hard. Until you use something all day, everyday to make a living, I doubt you'd understand. Can't have something **** itself when on a job, that cost dollars - think about the time you need to run down to Bunnings and get a new one - would literally cost you $100 to $150 of lost productivity if you were just down the road and even more if you're remote and have to call it quits for the day because you don't have to tool you need to continue. All of a sudden the $1000 I paid for my drill seems pretty damn good value. I know which way I'll go myself. If you don't have to earn a living from them and only use them occasionally, then no problem, but certainly a big issue for Tradies.

Homestar
17th October 2017, 08:31 PM
We all know that a Dewalt is a better bit of kit But is it 8-10 times a better bit of kit which is represented in the price difference?
If you want reliability just buy 2-3 times as many Ozito tools "just in case" and you will be miles ahead $ wise.
If you do have a problem with a tool then you will still have the availability whilst you are waiting for a replacement or if you are out bush on a job and one of them karks it [biggrin]
And lets face it No tradesman worth his/her salt will rely on a single tool without a backup option anyway.

When you get 20 years out of a tool between failures, you don't need back ups. Yes, a good tool is worth 10 times more IMO. Nothing worse than using crap cheap **** IMO. You're welcome to it, but there's a world of difference between cheap and decent. Not to mention the **** you'd cop when you rolled into a building site with your Ozito tools - you'd get eaten alive on a big building site. ;)

crash
17th October 2017, 08:36 PM
My first angle grinder I bought from Kmart for $20.00- as at the time I did not have a workshop and needed it for a small job. It got abused for several years later - went through brushes though.
Finally replaced it with a Worx brand. Which has been very good the past 5 years. I had a vibration in it similar to what the OP described - turned out to be a bad bearing - replaced for $3.00.

Toxic_Avenger
17th October 2017, 08:41 PM
I thought this was a thread for the home gamers? Now it's all about making a living out of them?
All tools, irrespective of initial cost or quality WILL die eventually. Fact.
If you are a home gamer, like mr OP seems to be, then the advice is buy cheap, replace when required. You could be pleasantly surprised.
When you're on a shutdown project and the job is held up for your bunnings trip, then yeah, no brainer... but I think this is outside of the original scope.

Vern
17th October 2017, 08:42 PM
We all know that a Dewalt is a better bit of kit But is it 8-10 times a better bit of kit which is represented in the price difference?
If you want reliability just buy 2-3 times as many Ozito tools "just in case" and you will be miles ahead $ wise.
If you do have a problem with a tool then you will still have the availability whilst you are waiting for a replacement or if you are out bush on a job and one of them karks it [biggrin]
And lets face it No tradesman worth his/her salt will rely on a single tool without a backup option anyway.Yes its 8-10 times better.
Whats the point of buy 2-3 **** quality tools thats are whats most important, crap to use!
Buy 1 good tool and you don't have these issues!
No REAL tradesperson would rely on rubbish tools like that. I had a crew of tradespersons that worked for me, none had or needed back up tools. Spend the money for reliabilty and performance quality

trout1105
17th October 2017, 08:51 PM
I worked for an electrical firm in Darwin and we did a lot of industrial type installations ( not house bashing) and we used Dewalt cordless tools much of the time.
Yes they are a great bit of kit But we did manage to bugger them up from time to time and that is why we carried spares when we were working at a remote location.
Regardless of what you buy Nothing is indestructible and to expect a dewalt to last 20 years with industrial use is a pipe dream.
I do agree that if your livelihood is dependant on your power tools then Dewalt is the way to go But for us average folk that sort of expense is an extravagance that is unwarranted just to do a bit of grinding or drill a few holes every now and then.
The OP is happy using his Black and Deckers so I imagine that the new lithium powered cordless Ozito's will be just as good if not better [thumbsupbig]

JoeFriend
17th October 2017, 09:10 PM
All my mates in construction (most of which either own the business or are in control.or finances and control procurement, but are also still on the tools to a degree) swear by Milwaukee. Very decent price, and will go all day on site (they flog their gear, public private partnership, so huge budgets). They won't go anything else for the most part. Excellent service from the company and price. Sydney based so they can go to Sydney tools for immediate warranty and replacement if needed. The CBA showed better off.

Personally, my gear isn't used as hard not as often so the ozito power xchange works for me, no issues at all. Depends on what the use is these days.

gromit
17th October 2017, 09:17 PM
Thanks guys.....I think.
Two different camps in terms of buy cheap & rely on the long warranty or buy a 'brand' name.

My 'cheapie' B&D lasted 30 years but it was purchased before Chinese tools became prevalent, I think I paid 35GBP all those years ago. because I have others I'm not going to get stuck part way through a job and it's only for home use so I need to weigh up cost vs. perceived quality.

It hasn't died yet so I have time to look around and see what's available and Bunnings is only a few minutes from home.


Colin

trout1105
17th October 2017, 09:31 PM
I have got an old cordless Black and Decker drill here that lasted 5+ years until the battery carked it, The drill itself is in perfect condition still.
When it was going it had heaps of "grunt" and it was my favourite drill, Unfortunately I doubt that I will be able to replace the battery pack now.
Not too shabby for a Poor mans Dewalt [biggrin]

dero
17th October 2017, 10:18 PM
My experience has been that most of them cost the same in the long run , either cheap & nasty and short lived or more money & nicer to use and longer lived .
I am a tradesman so I choose the tools that are nicer to use , at the end of the day it does not cost any more to have a bit of class .

BigBlackDog
17th October 2017, 10:25 PM
I have one of them there 100mm dewalt grinders, not sure on the wattage but it plows through everything, heaps of go.
I inherited a cheap brand 125mm just recently, 'icon' branded. I figured how bad could it be, I'll chuck some cut off wheels on it and use it for that cause I always wanted a bigger one. It sim got much power at all, as soon as you touch it to something just bogs down, no good. I gave up after one go. I'm sure they have their place, but that's not at my place.

bee utey
17th October 2017, 10:47 PM
Oh and to just add one extra factor, my favourite Dewalt tool to use is their 5" cordless angle grinder. The balance of the tool is just brilliant, one handed operation is dead easy and the trigger doesn't suffer from dual button operation stupidity (it has a manual lock off). No kicking, not massively powerful (400W) but excellent for precise cutting and wire brushing.

Lotz-A-Landies
17th October 2017, 11:11 PM
I'd like to mention that the Ryobi is a relatively cheap brand and IIRC the latest was less than $100, I just wish that they had a better design on the safety shield clamp. (I may end up replacing the current one with a hose clamp or modifying it to clamp at the back.) I probably use the angle grinder twice a week on average.

My other Ozito purchase a random orbit sander, didn't manage to last long enough to finish sanding down the primer on my ex-SADF SIIB. I guess that is four times I have bought Ozito, first time and last time on two machines. :soapbox:

Vern
18th October 2017, 05:38 AM
Oh and to just add one extra factor, my favourite Dewalt tool to use is their 5" cordless angle grinder. The balance of the tool is just brilliant, one handed operation is dead easy and the trigger doesn't suffer from dual button operation stupidity (it has a manual lock off). No kicking, not massively powerful (400W) but excellent for precise cutting and wire brushing.Doesn't matter what brand, the cordless angle grinder is the great tool in the shed, followed closely behind by the mig welder[emoji4]

gromit
18th October 2017, 05:49 AM
I have got an old cordless Black and Decker drill here that lasted 5+ years until the battery carked it, The drill itself is in perfect condition still.
When it was going it had heaps of "grunt" and it was my favourite drill, Unfortunately I doubt that I will be able to replace the battery pack now.
Not too shabby for a Poor mans Dewalt [biggrin]

My cordless B&D drill has lasted close to 10 years, I bought a second one when Bunnings were selling them off cheap to get spares batteries (Only NiCad 14.4V).
Re-populating the battery pack is a possibility but expensive. The alternative is a battery pack off Ebay out of China.
Don't use a cordless that often so might consider that option.

Just remembered, there is a DeWalt/B&D place in Mooroolbark that has an outlet shop, might go and have a look what 'scratch & dent' stuff they have.


Colin

roverrescue
18th October 2017, 08:23 AM
Of my current stable of finger dusters I like prefer my g13sb hitachi 5" the best
It has soft start which is so nice to use
Have other Metabos, Hotachis and Makitas

Still home use but they get well used

In my experience that which kills grinders quickest irrespective of expense or brand is what you grind!!! A few hours grinding fibreglass for example will roger even your most expensive German $1000 grinder, wire cupping rust/paint and dirt is similarly ugly on componentry

I run a couple of cheaper/older units to do the dirty work but keep my nice soft start for finesse flap disk, weld prep etc etc

Soft start is nice but having a rack of options is better!

S

bee utey
18th October 2017, 09:01 AM
Doesn't matter what brand, the cordless angle grinder is the great tool in the shed, followed closely behind by the mig welder[emoji4]

But my best mate, who is a Makita tragic, was annoyed that his fave brand didn't have a cordless grinder as well balanced as my Dewalt. [biggrin]

rangieman
18th October 2017, 09:57 AM
Here Colin a cheap name brand [thumbsupbig]
Bosch Angle Grinder 100mm Slimline | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bosch-Angle-Grinder-100mm-Slimline/222241777309'mi_u=43030244901)
Also i have a corded Makita 4" and it has been great doing similar to what you use yours for[bigwhistle]

trout1105
18th October 2017, 02:19 PM
All my power tools are now strictly for home use and I take a few away with me when I go Bush So none of them really Need to be the Top of the Wazza, Bells and whistles jobbies that cost me an arm and a leg, Neither do I Need/Want to buy a particular brand just to impress anyone either.

I stumbled upon these Ozito tools mainly because of a thread on this site discussing cordless chainsaws and bought a $119 cordless chainsaw made by Ozito that I saw during one of my frequent wanderings around every Blokes Mecca "Bunnings" [biggrin]
After the initial shock of having to go back to the big green shed to buy a battery and charger that I stupidly failed to notice that didn't come in the box with the saw I was impressed with just how much this Piddly little saw was capable of doing and how long it could operate on a single 4ah lithium battery.
Instead of just buying the extra spare battery for the saw which was what my next trip to Bunnings was for I saw a box that contained a drill. teck gun and grinder in it that came with another charger and two more lithium batteries (2ah & 4ah) for the princely sum of just over $200, They even came with a nice carry bag as well.
For me it was a "No Brainer" to give these a try considering the way the chainsaw had performed and it wasn't as if I had to take out a Bank load to buy them either.
I have used all of these tools over the last couple of Months and they are more than capable of doing what I require them for and if they don't survive the 3 year warranty on the batteries or the 5 year warranty on the tools themselves I will simply get a replacement.
If they do last longer that the warranty periods then at the purchase price for these they will be an absolute bargain.

Nobody can argue that these Ozito tools are as good or are of the same quality as their Dewalt counterparts because quite simply they aren't But for My own particular needs the Ozito gear is more than adequate and is a cost effective option.

gromit
18th October 2017, 03:25 PM
Here Colin a cheap name brand [thumbsupbig]
Bosch Angle Grinder 100mm Slimline | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bosch-Angle-Grinder-100mm-Slimline/222241777309'mi_u=43030244901)
Also i have a corded Makita 4" and it has been great doing similar to what you use yours for[bigwhistle]

Thanks Chris,
Found that last night but $9.99 freight and no stores seem to stock them any longer.

Colin

ramblingboy42
18th October 2017, 04:04 PM
you will probably find its just a simple bearing replacement needed, theyre only small and simple to replace. Pull it apart and have a look, I'm sure if its simple fix you will smile when it starts up smoothly. I have done the same with my old hitachi and the difference is amazing.

Don 130
18th October 2017, 08:26 PM
Ramblingboy 42 beat me to it. I replaced the bearings in a hitachi 4" grinder and restored it it to good health for only a few dollars.

Don.

gromit
18th October 2017, 09:39 PM
you will probably find its just a simple bearing replacement needed, theyre only small and simple to replace. Pull it apart and have a look, I'm sure if its simple fix you will smile when it starts up smoothly. I have done the same with my old hitachi and the difference is amazing.

I'll have to have a look this weekend, but after maybe 30years use it's probably time to replace it.......


Colin

gromit
22nd October 2017, 08:13 PM
Used it yesterday and it started to cut out as it was moved around.
Today I took it apart & cleaned it, bearings were OK, brushes good. Eventually found a break in the neutral wire.

Maybe I should just keep using it till it dies then look for another.......


Colin

33chinacars
26th October 2017, 01:12 PM
For cheap & not so nasty buy Aldi.[bigsmile][bigsmile] Good warranty or just throw away. A mate in the trucking industry uses the cheap grinders all the time even though he has the good stuff at home.

All my Cordless tools are now Milwaukee. Love them. My corded grinders & drills are mostly Pro Bosch. All only get occasional use being a farmer. Prefer to buy once & buy good gear.

But it's horses for courses. Buy what will suit your needs. I've also got a couple of B&D drills that are still going . Over 40 years old. Problem is the don't build them to last like that anymore.

Homestar
26th October 2017, 04:26 PM
For cheap & not so nasty buy Aldi.[bigsmile][bigsmile] Good warranty or just throw away. A mate in the trucking industry uses the cheap grinders all the time even though he has the good stuff at home.

All my Cordless tools are now Milwaukee. Love them. My corded grinders & drills are mostly Pro Bosch. All only get occasional use being a farmer. Prefer to buy once & buy good gear.

But it's horses for courses. Buy what will suit your needs. I've also got a couple of B&D drills that are still going . Over 40 years old. Problem is the don't build them to last like that anymore.

Hi mate, haven't seen you post here in ages. Hope everything is well with you. :)

33chinacars
27th October 2017, 05:16 PM
Hi mate, haven't seen you post here in ages. Hope everything is well with you. :)

All Good Gavin . Just been a bit quiet of late [wink11][wink11]

Except for a Stuffed back & shoulder & +++++. Retired /Semi - retired . No longer a Dairy Farmer . Just a few Beef cows ( Yum ) & 2/3 rd's property leased these days.


Gary

gromit
28th January 2018, 09:42 AM
The old Black & Decker 100mm is still going strong but now an old Ozito 115mm has died.... It was given to me so I suppose I shouldn't complain.

Used it the other day and it didn't sound right, seemed to be running faster than normal. Turned out that the fan on the rotor had failed catastrophically while the young bloke was using it and he just put it away.....denies all knowledge of it happening but it must have made some noise when it went !

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/01/1015.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23QV2pv)DSCN4634 (https://flic.kr/p/23QV2pv) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

Runs OK but will overheat so picked up a 125mm Ozito from Bunnings for $49

Already had a 125mm Ozito thats used for cutting. Interesting that the latest version is smaller with the same motor wattage. 3 year warranty so I'll keep the receipt.


Colin