Tow truck

[Bobc163]

On the back of trailer stopped completely will know more tomorrow
Could be the alternator (hopefully) https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/10/459.jpg

[Tombie]

Why in the D2 area?

[101RRS]

Yes looks like a D4 not a D2 - very sad all the same.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

its definatly on the back of that trailer---(hopefully just raised jockey wheel)

around 4.5T sitting there--[bigwhistle]

[wombathole]

What were the error codes before it died?

[Bobc163]

So, after today's discussion it appears I will need to get the motor replaced :@
Anyone have an idea of costings 2012 SD/SE 3 litre diesel?
Vehicle has only done 116k

[veebs]

What the hell happened?

[Aussie Jeepster]

I know this won't help the pain but surely, at that number of km's, this a possible claim on Land Rover???
Obvious questions about who serviced it/when etc, but that is unbelievable.
Please keep us informed.
Alan

[letherm]

I know this won't help the pain but surely, at that number of km's, this a possible claim on Land Rover???
Obvious questions about who serviced it/when etc, but that is unbelievable.
Please keep us informed.
Alan

X2

That does seem within the orbit of a consumer issue. Extended warranties go to 5 years so I reckon you'd have a strong case unless of course the car has been abused or not serviced properly.

Good luck with it.

Martin

[SBD4]

X2

That does seem within the orbit of a consumer issue. Extended warranties go to 5 years so I reckon you'd have a strong case unless of course the car has been abused or not serviced properly.

Good luck with it.

Martin


I know this won't help the pain but surely, at that number of km's, this a possible claim on Land Rover???
Obvious questions about who serviced it/when etc, but that is unbelievable.
Please keep us informed.
Alan
Unfortunately warranty will not be remotely possible having had a remap done on the ECU. The only course of action to pursue would be with the providers of the remap but I am guessing that you sign your life away when going that route. Sorry this has happened Bob - really a tough one to take.

[letherm]

The only course of action to pursue would be with the providers of the remap but I am guessing that you sign your life away when going that route.

Certainly worth a shot. I always work on the principle that if you don't ask the question you'll never know the answer. They might surprise with their response.

Martin

[SBD4]

Certainly worth a shot. I always work on the principle that if you don't ask the question you'll never know the answer. They might surprise with their response.

Martin
Very true Martin. With some luck something may sway Bobs way.

[Bobc163]

Well today I received the news that my SD/se will need a new "heart" at approximately $17.5k is disappointing to say the least :@ especially as it has only done 116k with regular services
Will certainly be talking to lra next week

[wombathole]

Why why why?

[trout1105]

What caused this heart attack?

[Bobc163]

Apparently overheating issues caused by several factors, airducts removed By bull bar fitment, oil temperature sensor faulty , radiator partial blockage and running near maximum payload all added up to crankshaft failure at front end

[cjc_td5]

Aftermarket tune fitted?

[trout1105]

Apparently overheating issues caused by several factors, airducts removed By bull bar fitment, oil temperature sensor faulty , radiator partial blockage and running near maximum payload all added up to crankshaft failure at front end

Doesn't the D4 have a coolant temperature gauge?
I have been told that the D4's have a low coolant sensor fitted as a standard feature But this doesn't help if the truck isn't loosing coolant and is just running too hot.

[donh54]

Terrible news!
Running near maximum payload is not an issue! Running over it could be, but we never do that, do we?
Who fitted bullbar? How is the radiator partially blocked? With only 116k on it I'd be looking for some answers!

[Bobc163]

Coolant temperature gauge working ok nut apparently the oil temperature sensor is faulty

[Bobc163]

Terrible news!
Running near maximum payload is not an issue! Running over it could be, but we never do that, do we?
Who fitted bullbar? How is the radiator partially blocked? With only 116k on it I'd be looking for some answers!Have already spoken to representative of bar company and has asked for documentation , definitely not overloaded as vehicle and van weighed before starting the trip, apparently if the incorrect type of coolant is used, even in a small amount, corrosion can occur, vehicle had complete coolant flush 6k ago when front hoses including thermostat replaced
Questions have been and will be asked!!!

[TuffRR]

TDV6 crank and crank bearing failures (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/209763-tdv6-crank-crank-bearing-failures.html)

Also a common(ish) issue with SDV6. Repairers (particularly LRA), will always look to lay blame on other factors that may or may not of caused problem...

[DiscoJeffster]

Apparently overheating issues caused by several factors, airducts removed By bull bar fitment

Note: general statement, not specifically targeted.

I’ve been looking at the protruding air flow “increaser” (protruding element) that’s removed when you want to use the recovery point, and it’s not insignificant. It’s removed by both bull bar installations and under trays such as APT, and it’s impact to air that enters the radiator would not be insignificant. Without it a significant amount of air would find it easier to pass under the vehicle than being “trapped” and forced under the vehicle.

I understand a number of factors have combined to (potentially) cause this failure, but I can see how this element impacts cooling performance.
Conversely crank failure is unfortunately common (common in the terms of it just shouldn’t happen) in this vehicle, and it does feel like this engine is living on the edge and doesn’t have enough contingency built into its design.

All that said, I’ve reviewed the factory bull bar and while it does have an element of protrusion, I question how much and whether it’s much improvement than aftermarket.

Awaiting flaming

[LRD414]

Have you asked any questions of the engine tuner?

[DiscoJeffster]

I assume that the reason these are never repaired is the cost of parts (if you could get part numbers and supply) and that lack of any method from the factory in the form of a workshop manual with rebuild instructions? It’s the first car (I’ve) come across where this isn’t possible.

[PerthDisco]

Well today I received the news that my SD/se will need a new "heart" at approximately $17.5k is disappointing to say the least :@ especially as it has only done 116k with regular services
Will certainly be talking to lra next week

Is this engine only cost?
Is this the new from LR price?
It must be possible to find good second hand from wreckers or eBay noting how many wrecks there are displayed (triumph spares)

In general a good transplant should beat a rebuild cost unless you are doing labour yourself (assuming also kits were available)

[Bobc163]

Total cost and is a second hand motor with low ks and warranty

[trout1105]

Total cost and is a second hand motor with low ks and warranty

Lets hope this one doesn't spit the crank out as well.
Are they going to drop the sump on the replacement motor to check that it is all good to go or are they just going to chuck it into the truck and hope for the best?

[rar110]

Too many of these go pop. One fairly recently just before or after its 1st service. At 116,000km JLR should cover most of the cost. The motor properly serviced should last much longer.

[Vern]

Total cost and is a second hand motor with low ks and warranty$17.5k for a secondhand motor! Thats rediculous. I would want a brand new crate motor for that.

[PerthDisco]

$17.5k for a secondhand motor! Thats rediculous. I would want a brand new crate motor for that.

Includes R&R I think but still means expensive engine.

My armageddon strategy on the 2.7D is a Ford Territory transplant. Seems many of these around $4k with lowish kms.

Anyway, thought these issues were a thing of the past with the ‘new and improved’ 3.0?

Sounds like these are Friday motors as many more seems to go fine.

[Vern]

R & r should only be 2 days labour tops. Plus fluids. $12-$15k for a secondhand engine is crazy.

[loanrangie]

I noticed there are rebuild kits on eBay complete with crank/rods/pistons/bearings.

[DiscoJeffster]

I noticed there are rebuild kits on eBay complete with crank/rods/pistons/bearings.

Link please?

[scarry]

R & r should only be 2 days labour tops. Plus fluids. $12-$15k for a secondhand engine is crazy.

At LR rediculous rates,that would be $7K on its own,2 guys,total of 32 hours plus GST.
Then motor cost,fluids,etc,etc.

I would be going to a good Indy,many have done these already.

[Vern]

At LR rediculous rates,that would be $7K on its own,2 guys,total of 32 hours plus GST.
Then motor cost,fluids,etc,etc.

I would be going to a good Indy,many have done these already.2 guys? What 1 guy can't swap a motor out in 2 days?

[scarry]

2 guys? What 1 guy can't swap a motor out in 2 days?

There is slightly more to be done than just swaping a motor out.

They would probably use a Tech and an apprentice.They seem to get away with charging an apprentice at full rates.

Maybe someone on here has done one and can chime in...

Just taking the body off and putting it back is many hours to start with.

Anyone quoting for a job like that to be done in less than two days,two guys,start to finish is dreaming

Earth to JC??

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Didnt the OP get a tune from TRS??

[Meccles]

I see there are now companies in UK offering rebuilt 2.7 and 3.0 motors. Based in Glasgow. Not sure of price but perhaps worth investigating.
Plus as noted below rebuild kits - some with pistons, some with crank and pistons, some just bearings/rings. Depending on issue maybe an option.

[TerryO]

Personally I wouldn't rebuild one of these 3.0 or 2.7 motors that has had over heating and crank failure issues unless I was not going to keep it.

The reason these secondhand engines are expensive is there is such a demand because there are quite a few crank failures with the 3.0 engine usually after bearing failure, maybe not as many as with the early 2.7 but still not good.

This was the reason when I decided to purchase a secondhand D4 it was a petrol V8, as far as I know there has never been a failure with one of those and even if there was its a common enough Ford Mustang engine that a new replacement wouldn't be that expensive to source.

Another thing when there started appearing a number of remap specialists claiming massive HP and torque increases for the 3.0 not long after it came out I looked at some of the claims and thought given these engines are not extremely robust to start off with why would anyone risk major failures by increasing the stress so much?

I know when my 2.7 was replaced by a workshop under warranty, because of their stuff up, he was able to buy the engine for roughly from memory $5k less than the RRP providing he ordered the engine as a stock part which made it nearly a grand cheaper than if he had ordered it as a replacement part. He was happy to tell me this and what the margins were as I wasn't paying for it and if he ordered it as a stock part then it would be delivered roughly a week later than a replacement part, so he asked me if I minded waiting a bit longer to save him some bucks, which I was happy to do.

Good luck with what ever path you go down but if it was me I would want a new engine if I was going to keep the vehicle.

[trout1105]

At LR rediculous rates,that would be $7K on its own,2 guys,total of 32 hours plus GST.
Then motor cost,fluids,etc,etc.

I would be going to a good Indy,many have done these already.
Whyatt's in Geraldton charged me $120 per hour when they fitted the head gaskets and some other work which I thought was VERY reasonable.
32 hrs work at Whyatt's works out at $3840, $7000 for the same amount of labour is bloody ridicules that works out at $218.75 per hr Who charges that much for labour?

[scarry]

Whyatt's in Geraldton charged me $120 per hour when they fitted the head gaskets and some other work which I thought was VERY reasonable.
32 hrs work at Whyatt's works out at $3840, $7000 for the same amount of labour is bloody ridicules that works out at $218.75 per hr Who charges that much for labour?

The local stealers actually charge more than $218.75/hr.

Thats one of the reasons they don't get my money.

[trout1105]

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The local stealers actually charge more than $218.75/hr.

Thats one of the reasons they don't get my money.

At that price they wouldn't even get a phone call from Me let alone any work, That is Highway robbery [bigwhistle]

[rar110]

2 guys? What 1 guy can't swap a motor out in 2 days?

They prefer charging for two as they generally get away with it. Not sure why they’re known as stealers.

[Tombie]

Hmm let’s see... workshop and showroom required to continually update and comply the LR requirements, latest equipment must be kept and usually multiple units of each...

Must provide the original purchaser with an “experience”

Very different to what the Indy needs to provide, a clean professional workshop with maybe 1/2 diagnostic units...

Hardly unexpected is it.... (And for the record my dealer charges what the Indy does)

[trout1105]

My Late Father was a Fitter all his life and after leaving the RAF he worked in a few different dealerships so I have a pretty good idea how thing are done as far as putting set times onto various jobs.
At the end of most days 4 fitters will have booked out many more hours on jobs done than the 32 hours that they were at work for, It's just the way it is and I understand that and can live with it.
What I don't understand/approve of is when certain dealerships not only use the maximum time frames that are allocated for a job But also jack up the hourly rate as well.
It's No wonder some people get disenchanted with their LR dealer if they get fleeced on an invoice and they then start to think of them as "Stealers" instead of "Dealers".
Thank the Gods that the Landrover Workshop where I live isn't a Rip off merchant and when you get a quote (even verbally) then that is the most the job you want done is going to cost without any little hidden "Gems" that add hundreds if not thousands to the final invoice like some workshops do [thumbsupbig][biggrin]

[rar110]

No argument a dealer has additional compliance or contractual expenses. But a chunk of it relates to an experience or perception.

When I last went to the dealer it was for a free recall. I enjoyed chatting to the groomed pretty young women and even fellows who assisted me. I even enjoyed the leather waiting lounge and latte made for me. Thank you very much. I did even have a chuckle at the attempt to sell me very expensive wheel nuts.

But If I had a choice I would go to an Indy, sit on the faux lounge, and talk to someone who knew/had worked on my car even though they have a few acne scars and like to drop the f bomb in regular conversation.

[scarry]

There are two things I can’t work out with dealers.

Firstly,how do they get away with charging full rates for apprentices?
That is completely dishonest in my books,and genuine daylight robbery.
We would never get away with that in our industry.

There are not many dealers that don’t do this.

Secondly why do most dealers of European brands charge around 60% to 70% more for labour than dealers of Japanese brands?

[DiscoJeffster]

There are two things I can’t work out with dealers.

Firstly,how do they get away with charging full rates for apprentices?
That is completely dishonest in my books,and genuine daylight robbery.
We would never get away with that in our industry.

There are not many dealers that don’t do this.

Secondly why do most dealers of European brands charge around 60% to 70% more for labour than dealers of Japanese brands?

Europeans cost more to import? Oh sorry, that’s the cars not the mechanics. [emoji23]

[Bobc163]

Europeans cost more to import? Oh sorry, that’s the cars not the mechanics. [emoji23]Oh I can feel the reaming out here :@
Why do they charge more? Because they can >:) and no one is game to challenge them, in my previous life if I tried to charge more th an $90 / hr I would not get the work, and I am braless Ki ng about a highly qualified person with at least 2 trades qualifications
There needs to be an investigation into these rates

[Bobc163]

Oh I can feel the reaming out here :@
Why do they charge more? Because they can >:) and no one is game to challenge them, in my previous life if I tried to charge more th an $90 / hr I would not get the work, and I am braless Ki ng about a highly qualified person with at least 2 trades qualifications
There needs to be an investigation into these ratesDon't you just love the way google cam change the words
Didn't know I was a braless king :-)

[Tombie]

No reaming of your Braless Highness[emoji13]

Why does there need to be an investigation?
They set the rate, you choose to accept or reject.

Is there an investigation into vehicle pricing?

Why does a Fully decked out RR cost what it costs when it’s $20k to build?

Why is a fully equipped Hyundai 30% of a Euro equivalent?

Why are houses which cost $125k to build worth $1mil in Sydney?

[emoji41]

[trout1105]

1. Why does a Fully decked out RR cost what it costs when it’s $20k to build?

2. Why is a fully equipped Hyundai 30% of a Euro equivalent?

3. Why are houses which cost $125k to build worth $1mil in Sydney?


1. With import Tax and when all the other players have added their Profit Margins onto the original LR price it doesn't take much imagination to see why they are so expensive for the consumer at the end of the line.

2. I have no idea really, Maybe there is a perception that the equivalent Euro car is better made.

3. That's an easy one, Rampant Speculation and too much Foreign investment is pushing the average Sydney sider out of home ownership.

[Tombie]

1 - the Defender was more expensive to build so that doesn’t add up!

2 - Spot on.. Perceived value is a huge thing...hence why people buy on emotion (Think GTHOs etc). And why does low volume = big dollars [emoji6]

3 - Foreign investment aside (its driven by growth speculation) its the stupidity of the buyers... almost No building is worth the money asked yet buyers keep on stretching the finances to breaking point to have “that one”...

Can’t wait to see the people’s faces when we go into a Property state like Japan had for decades - almost zero growth - because the market overpriced itself.... its already visible in the number of over capitalised properties for sale across Australia.


Back on topic - people pay what they feel is worth it, some play a short game, others a long one...

Some seek out a “better deal” or have had a bad experience and look for alternatives.

Me, I’ve serviced all my own vehicles except the current 2... why? Well I had corporate servicing on both (so free) and since then have had competitive pricing on services rendering it affordable.

It also builds dealer support - I have the very good SA dealer in my corner when/if I need them... and that means long term I will likely come out in as good a position as somebody using an Indy.

[trout1105]

I used to do ALL my own repairs and servicing But after a Head on collision in 2015 ( I was a passenger) that has left me with my left arm and hand pretty much buggered up I have had to get others to do the work now.
I can still do the basic stuff like changing the oil/filters and other jobs that doesn't require using the strength of both arms or the need for dexterity in both hands But other than that I now have to fix things using my Wallet unfortunately.

If you are lucky enough to find a dealership/workshop that can do "Quality" work and they don't charge like wounded bull then count yourself Lucky because these sort of places are slowly becoming an endangered species.

[Tombie]

And it’s that we should be pushing back on..
When poor service is received it should be noted... to the dealer and the HO of JLR

[trout1105]

And it’s that we should be pushing back on..
When poor service is received it should be noted... to the dealer and the HO of JLR

Luckily I personally don't have anything to "Push Back" on as I get excellent service at very reasonable rates where I take my D2 to get the work done on it [thumbsupbig]
But for those poor sods that get charged $200+ per hour for the same or a lower standard of service the best way to sort those buggers out is to Vote with your feet and go elsewhere [bigwhistle]

[Bobc163]

Here is some quite pertinent information
Unease grows over Land Rover engine | IOL Motoring (https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/cars/land-rover/unease-grows-over-land-rover-engine-1925479)

[PerthDisco]

This 100% relates to the 2.7D which now seems comparatively robust and without some of the other manifold gremlins of the 3.0D. And only one turbo too which I quite like.

[scarry]

This 100% relates to the 2.7D which now seems comparatively robust and without some of the other manifold gremlins of the 3.0D. And only one turbo too which I quite like.

Note also in this incident the service history for the vehicle is “unknown” for the last 50000K’s or so.

Affected 1.3% of vehicles in the last 10 yrs,so it is a common problem?

It would be interesting to know what year the vehicle in question was built,D3 or 4.

[Tombie]

Scarry, the OPs vehicle is 2012...

Not a good thing to happen at all, I’m sure it’s very stressful.

This is one of the reasons I keep going to the dealers.

[wombathole]

I have a 2009 d4 3.0, owned sinced new, renewed oil and filters as per servicing schedule. How can I proactively check this crank bearing?

[Bobc163]

Well now to the research side
1. How many of these incidents have their been?
2. Age and kilometres
3. Contributing factors ie service history,vehicle use (towing, off road usage etc)
4. Accessories fitted ( bullbar, winch, snorkel etc)
5. Warranty/non warranty
6. Final outcome

I would like to see just where this will go and please Mo conjecture, just facts

[trout1105]

Well now to the research side
1. How many of these incidents have their been?
2. Age and kilometres
3. Contributing factors ie service history,vehicle use (towing, off road usage etc)
4. Accessories fitted ( bullbar, winch, snorkel etc)
5. Warranty/non warranty
6. Final outcome

I would like to see just where this will go and please Mo conjecture, just facts

Unfortunately getting comprehensive data like this is pretty near impossible unless Landrover hands over all the data from it's records regarding this issue.

[Bobc163]

Unfortunately getting comprehensive data like this is pretty near impossible unless Landrover hands over all the data from it's records regarding this issue.I just want hear from members as I know jlra will not make this data available :@

[rangieman]

There have been some on here but not so much bearing failure .
A lot to do with the timing cover failure .
There have been a few that have replaced motor`s .
Might pay to start a new thread to to find the answer`s to your question .
I know some have tried to approach LR for cost with out success .
Just be careful not to name and shame on here or you will fall foul of admin:bat:

[scarry]

Scarry, the OPs vehicle is 2012...

Not a good thing to happen at all, I’m sure it’s very stressful.

This is one of the reasons I keep going to the dealers.

I was talking about the vehicle in the link,not the OP vehicle

My bad explanation probably....

[PerthDisco]

Well now to the research side
1. How many of these incidents have their been?
2. Age and kilometres
3. Contributing factors ie service history,vehicle use (towing, off road usage etc)
4. Accessories fitted ( bullbar, winch, snorkel etc)
5. Warranty/non warranty
6. Final outcome

I would like to see just where this will go and please Mo conjecture, just facts

Yes, very important to consider full picture and something never really elaborated on when things go bang. This must also be LR’s nightmare considering the myriad ways owners love to tinker with their cars.

And don’t forget also for this list, as in the OP case, if a performance enhancement ‘tune’ has been added. For the life of me with so much power on tap with the new 3.0D compared to the 2.7D (which I find quite ok) I can not understand doing this which seems like playing with fire and no question the manufacturer would run away. They play the averages game in setting it up for good reason to account for crap fuel, blocked filters, overloading, Sahara Desert heat, partially blocked radiators etc etc.

Through operating marine diesel engines of the 70s and 80s (270hp out of 7 litres and 800kg) through to today’s models (400hp out of 5 litres and 500 kg) I explain to people to consider them as hand grenades with the pin removed. There is no room for error with the slightest overheat or glitch, they will self destruct instantaneously. They are engineering marvels but highly strung.

People still think diesels are like the old tractor in the paddock.

Considering this, if the failure rate is (only) 1.3% this to me seems to account for some element of abuse/ modification and/or a friday motor factor and / or bad batch. Plenty of evidence exists of long lived engines. Typically an inherent manufacturing error should go pop in the warranty period. (excepting the well understood oil pump cover on the pre MY08 2.7D issue). To me bearing failure after 100,000km is hard to make sense of as a manufacturer error as the engine has done a zillion rotations by then. It would however suggest accelerated wear and tear as a possible explanation.

Once you modify the car you now have the pin out of the grenade and one finger on the lever while balancing on a slippery log.

On the bright side, still less chance then us humans have of contracting some unpleasant life threatening problem!

(Nevertheless my heart bleeds for anyone who has this problem no matter the cause)

[Tombie]

For some reason the incidence of failures in South Africa is proportionally higher than in Australia - and from some reading on the forums there I gather they have fuel quality choices as well? Which *may* have an influence on Oil life/quality. It may also be batch production, where larger volumes of the engine batch made it to one country or another...

Whilst there have been a few cases of engine failure in Australia it appears to be significantly lower than South Africa.

I’d recommend the OP has his oil drained, sends it away for comprehensive analysis and has a look to see how it comes back.

Depending on level of tune this may have had some impact.

All the best... and be aware LRA monitor this forum actively- so any modifications you have performed and noted on here will be known...

[PerthDisco]

All the best... and be aware LRA monitor this forum actively- so any modifications you have performed and noted on here will be known...

I’ve never been able to understand all the talk about cats so hopefully they won’t either [emoji6]

[Tombie]

I’ve never been able to understand all the talk about cats so hopefully they won’t either [emoji6]

I’m not fussed if they do tbh... [emoji41]

[PerthDisco]

For some reason the incidence of failures in South Africa is proportionally higher than in Australia

We’ve always been better friends with the Poms. I’m sure our bearings were fitted with love and care.

[discorevy]

I’ve never been able to understand all the talk about cats so hopefully they won’t either [emoji6]

If they did , the cat would be out of the bag[bigwhistle]

[Aussie Jeepster]

Lots of discussion in South Africa here:
Links to Discovery TDv6/SDv6 Failure Reports (http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.php/261614-Links-to-Discovery-TDv6-SDv6-Failure-Reports)
and here":
Discovery 3 TDv6 Failure Survey (http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.php/261607-TDv6-Failure-Survey)

[rsp]

For what it is worth, the car service place I take my LR3 TDV6 to (Goulburn) replaced the TDV6 in another LR3 with a second hand, but almost new, Ford Territory engine, that from memory cost $8k. I think it took a full week to do the work, but their rates are almost a third of what you would pay a specialist place in Canberra.

[PerthDisco]

Those failures all sound nasty and very hard to see a pattern.

[trebor]

$17.5k for a secondhand motor! Thats rediculous. I would want a brand new crate motor for that.

Consider speaking to the this company at Lonsdale, a southern suburb of Adelaide. Having been there, I can believe it is the world's largest graveyard for LRs and the like. Check out their website for D4s.

Triumph Rover Spares - The World's Largest Land Rover Dismantler (http://www.triumphroverspares.com.au/)www.triumphroverspares.com.au/







The world's largest Land Rover dismantler with over 70 years of combined industry experience. Our fully-trained mechanics, spare-parts specialists, and ...

Good luck
Nick

PS . I share your grief. I have also experienced a crankshaft failure in MY15 Discovery TDV6 3.0 at 25,000kms (1500kms from home)

[Vern]

Consider speaking to the this company at Lonsdale, a southern suburb of Adelaide. Having been there, I can believe it is the world's largest graveyard for LRs and the like. Check out their website for D4s.

Triumph Rover Spares - The World's Largest Land Rover Dismantler (http://www.triumphroverspares.com.au/)www.triumphroverspares.com.au/







The world's largest Land Rover dismantler with over 70 years of combined industry experience. Our fully-trained mechanics, spare-parts specialists, and ...

Good luck
Nick

PS . I share your grief. I have also experienced a crankshaft failure in MY15 Discovery TDV6 3.0 at 25,000kms (1500kms from home)


Yes aware of trs and the exorbitant pricing.