Should she buy?

[Tins]

Hi folks. I have a simple query. My daughter is looking to buy a Freelander 2. 2010,TD4e, XS pack, 132,000, $11,000. This car was brought here from the UK by it's owner, got a compliance plate in 2014.

I don't know the first thing about FLs, so I thought I'd tap the brains trust to see what you think. Any major service pitfalls approaching? On first glance the car appears tidy and clean.

TIA

[woko]

Hi folks. I have a simple query. My daughter is looking to buy a Freelander 2. 2010,TD4e, XS pack, 132,000, $11,000. This car was brought here from the UK by it's owner, got a compliance plate in 2014.

I don't know the first thing about FLs, so I thought I'd tap the brains trust to see what you think. Any major service pitfalls approaching? On first glance the car appears tidy and clean.

TIA I've got a 2007 td4. It had 235000km on it. I rebuilt the diff at 268000km. Had some other small faults. Other than that been great

[Tins]

I've got a 2007 td4. It had 235000km on it. I rebuilt the diff at 268000km. Had some other small faults. Other than that been great

Thanks woko. I've heard that they are pretty good. I just don't want her to get a $3000 surprise with some major service item just after she buys one. You know, like a RRS timing belt type surprise.

[PhilipA]

You should be aware that the rear diff rebuild is not a simple task because of the locking device on the front.

I read in LRO that Land Rover only supply new units at several K dollars, but that now some specialists in UK are able to rebuild.

2010 should be OK as they changed the speed of lockup after about 2007 AFAIR, but the contingent liability is there.
Regards Philip A

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[loanrangie]

Thanks woko. I've heard that they are pretty good. I just don't want her to get a $3000 surprise with some major service item just after she buys one. You know, like a RRS timing belt type surprise.

John the timing belt on RRS/D3/4 is just a beat up, sure the workshops charge a bomb to change them but its just a belt with tensioners like any other modern motor.

[woko]

Thanks woko. I've heard that they are pretty good. I just don't want her to get a $3000 surprise with some major service item just after she buys one. You know, like a RRS timing belt type surprise.The td4 has a timing belt. Easy to change if you have the tools. It's due at 240000km. I did mine at 160000km

[rar110]

Our Pug 407 has a derivative of the PSA motor and Japanese Aisin 6 speed tranny fitted to the FL2. It has been good. You should be able to blank the EGR in that era FL2.

[Xtreme]

IMHO the Freelander 2 is a very underated vehicle. I bought a 2009 Td4 HSE with 127k kms on the clock two years ago and am very pleased with it. I've done two services on it and apart from difficulty re access to the pollen filter & oil filter (overcome after buying 27mm swivel head ratchet spanner) was very straightforward.
The price you suggested sounds very reasonable and allows a bit of leeway should someting unexpected show it's ugley head.

If you don't buy it, please PM me the contact details of the seller as I have a friend who is looking for one at the moment.

[Tins]

John the timing belt on RRS/D3/4 is just a beat up, sure the workshops charge a bomb to change them but its just a belt with tensioners like any other modern motor.

Really? I thought it was a body off job.

[Tins]

IMHO the Freelander 2 is a very underated vehicle. I bought a 2009 Td4 HSE with 127k kms on the clock two years ago and am very pleased with it. I've done two services on it and apart from difficulty re access to the pollen filter & oil filter (overcome after buying 27mm swivel head ratchet spanner) was very straightforward.
The price you suggested sounds very reasonable and allows a bit of leeway should someting unexpected show it's ugley head.

If you don't buy it, please PM me the contact details of the seller as I have a friend who is looking for one at the moment.

Thanks for that info. I'm pretty sure she's going to buy it. I'll know by Saturday. If not, then sure, I'll let you know.

[loanrangie]

Really? I thought it was a body off job.

It might be easier for a workshop to lift the body but the timing belt is at the front and fuel pump belt is at the rear and can be replaced with body on- a few guys here have done it.

[Tins]

Someone beat her to it. At that price I'm not surprised. Thanks for the help folks.

[fitzy]

Welcome back John.

[Tins]

Welcome back John.

Haven't been away Michael, just giving it a bit of a rest. It was becoming a bit of an obsession.

[Tins]

Turns out that yes, she should have bought. The bloke ( it was a small dealer ) might have underpriced it a little..... He had 81 enquiries in a day and a half. She's disappointed of course, but now she's pretty much determined to go on with it.

So, with that in mind, a few more simple questions. Am I correct in thinking that anything after 2010 should have had the diff issue resolved?

What sort of K's would be acceptable? For example, there is a very nice 2012 TD4 SE auto for $15000 with 200,000 on the odo. That seems reasonable to me, but, as I said, I have no experience with these cars, only what I read here.

She has about a 40 K round trip commute. Currently she does this in an XR8 (!). I'm tipping the fuel savings alone would make a big difference to her weekly spend, so any minor issues wouldn't matter, but a blown auto or something would. Of course, the XR8 could do something expensive as well, but anyone can fix a Ford.

[trout1105]

Is there any reason why your daughter needs such a large car ?

[Tins]

Is there any reason why your daughter needs such a large car ?

Apart from her enormous Doberman Pinscher, you mean? She isn't a small car girl. Never has been. However, I'm not sure I'd call a FL2 "large". Her brother's Prado is large.

[FisherX]

I wouldn't call the FL2 small either.

We bought our 07 TD4 SE three years ago for the wife to downsize from the D2 V8.

Never test drove a FL2 before we bought it site unseen from Brisbane. Not much of a choice here in Cairns unless you want a Toyota or one of those other POS's.

Anyway when we drove off in the Freelander I said to the missus, "do you feel this is smaller than the Disco?" she replied no.

So when we got home I got the measuring tape out. And bugger me it is bigger in every dimension except the height and cargo area. When you park the Freelander next to my Range Rover Classic you can really see how much bigger it is.

She's a bulky little beast.

[rangieman]

I would call the FL2 small either.

We bought our 07 TD4 SE three years ago for the wife to downsize from the D2 V8.

Never test drove a FL2 before we bought it site unseen from Brisbane. Not much of a choice here in Cairns unless you want a Toyota or one of those other POS's.

Anyway when we drove off in the Freelander I said to the missus, "do you feel this is smaller than the Disco?" she replied no.

So when we got home I got the measuring tape out. And bugger me it is bigger in every dimension except the height and cargo area. When you park the Freelander next to my Range Rover Classic you can really see how much bigger it is.

She's a bulky little beast.
What about the car:oops2::whistling:

[FisherX]

Great car the wife loves it.

The only issues have been rear shocks, rear wheel bearings and the roof lining (which is a every 5 year job here in Cairns).

I've put some Evoque wheels on it and added the Land Rover protection package and driving lights. I think see looks sweet.

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[Tins]

I wouldn't call the FL2 small either.

We bought our 07 TD4 SE three years ago for the wife to downsize from the D2 V8.

Never test drove a FL2 before we bought it site unseen from Brisbane. Not much of a choice here in Cairns unless you want a Toyota or one of those other POS's.

Anyway when we drove off in the Freelander I said to the missus, "do you feel this is smaller than the Disco?" she replied no.

So when we got home I got the measuring tape out. And bugger me it is bigger in every dimension except the height and cargo area. When you park the Freelander next to my Range Rover Classic you can really see how much bigger it is.

She's a bulky little beast.

Interesting. There is one a few doors down from me, and it sure looks smaller than my D2.

[loanrangie]

Interesting. There is one a few doors down from me, and it sure looks smaller than my D2.
I have parked near one at work and it looks smaller than my d1.

[Tins]

I have parked near one at work and it looks smaller than my d1.

Look about the same size as a Forester to me. But it's deceptive. The current Corolla is about the same size as an EF Ford. If not bigger.

[Kevvy]

Here we go again. Diesel FR2 approx $3-4,000 dearer than si6 petrol. Diesel service cost v petrol, diesel pollution. I think petrol FR2 a good thing.

[FisherX]

Yeah at that price difference I would go for the petrol. I haven't driven one but I think it might accually be better than the diesel in comfort and power, just not fuel consumption.

Here are some photos of the Freelander next to the RRC. So longer wheelbase, wider track, 30mm more from door trim to door trim, 50mm more leg room for the rear and 20mm more head room. I guess it only looks like a small/medium car cause of the body shape. That is if you call the RRC a large car.

I saw something funny the other day in the airport carpark. An old orignial mini next to a new one OMG you should see the size difference in those two.

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[Tins]

I saw something funny the other day in the airport carpark. An old orignial mini next to a new one OMG you should see the size difference in those two.



You could fit 2 old ( real ) minis in a spot occupied by one of those so called minis with the barn doors. They look heaps better as well.

[bsperka]

The new Mini has about the same wheelbase as a D2. Not.a.mini.

[Tins]

The new Mini has about the same wheelbase as a D2. Not.a.mini.

It may be just me, but I'd prefer a D2 in almost every way. The new Mini, in my view, is a BMW without the good bits. But, apart from the FIAT 500, I hate all this retro nonsense. The VW Bug started* it, and they all jumped in. But the Bug was a Golf ruined, the FJ Cruiser is a Prado in a clown suit, the Mini is a cynical attempt at hoe hideous can we make it. Even the 500, which started out at least cute has morphed into bloated cynicism.

* I wonder if actually Chrysler started it with the PJ Cruiser, but I am not sure if that car was intended to be retro, or was Chrysler's vision for the future.