God V8 Discoveries are getting cheap

[NOZ]

Are they really that bad on fuel ? What would be the norm out of a tank in city driving??

Makes me wonder about doing any more extras to a 96tdi



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Or


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Cheers
Noz

[NOZ]

No offence intended to the V8 owners amoungst us https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[seqfisho]

Swings and roundabouts NOZ :roll:



The dearer the fuel gets the cheaper the V8s get https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/


The late D1 V8's are becoming real bargains, most sub $10K for 97-99 models. 8O 8O

[ET]

You are very right NOZ they are getting very cheap. They are great cars but the fuel price is killing owners. Obviously this applies to other makes as well.

Lots of owners who have good vehicles have gone to gas as an option to selling a good vehicle too cheaply.

Cheers
ET.

[NOZ]

How many lt/100kms are they good for ? best and worst

[seqfisho]

Originally posted by NOZ
How many lt/100kms are they good for ? best and worst

Think of your worst nightmare :roll:
































and double it https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Glad when I was looking for mine that I couldn't get a decent trade on the original V8 Iwas keen on, that was before ULP had hit the dollar mark, thinking back I called the dealer all sorts of names at the time, and none of them compilmentary, but now I should send him a thank you card as he actually did me a favour without knowing :wink: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/


I reasearched them at 15-22+ lt per 100km dependant on conditions and weight of right foot 8O

[NOZ]

They are the Ducati of the V8 world ( they sound great ) . That said the sound of the V8 would make it hard not to press the right foot a bit more than the norm.

22lt/100 :cry:

15lt/100 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

tempting though :twisted:

[ET]

Noz,

I average 19.5litres/100km on fuel around the Sunshine Coast and about 16.5 on a trip.

LPG consumption is similar.

ET.

[NOZ]

Ok I think I will have to stay with the old TDI.

Although sometimes there is nearly 20c a litre difference in fuel prices, that would help even up the odds a bit

[NOZ]

I get about 700ks to 80odd litres so thats about 11lt/100ks

deisel $1.22 x 82lt = $ 100app


leaded $1.07 x 82lt = $ 88app


about $12 a tank difference

[dungarover]

V8's aren't that bad, if you drive them as a weekend basher :twisted: :twisted:

If you drive them like me, your fuel consumption is around the 20L./100kms mark, the old man's 98 4.0 liter Rangie (same V8 engine as a D2) gets on avg 17-18L/100kms.

Trav

[seqfisho]

Originally posted by NOZ
I get about 700ks to 80odd litres so thats about 11lt/100ks

deisel $1.22 x 82lt = $ 100app


leaded $1.07 x 82lt = $ 88app


about $12 a tank difference


Except that $88 a tank is only getting you about 400-450KMs 8O 8O 8O 8O

[NOZ]

Yes thats the problem, but then I get tp put in another $12ish in so maybe closer to 500ks.


Thats starting to get there, I could live with 500 - 550 to a 80 lt tank

[Captain_Rightfoot]

How much cheaper are they than the diesel though? I'm guessing the diff would buy a lot of fuel https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[101RRS]

In 11.5 years ownership of a 3.9 (and kept records the whole time) I averaged 14l/100km on the expressway (best was 13). Around town worked out at 17l/100km. Mixed offroad about 20l/100km - heavy sand, heavy low range and heavy towing as bad as 30l/100km.

I suspect that drive a diesel at the same speeds on the highway 120kph and take into account the difference in fuel price and a v8 is probably not all that far behind the diesel with its in-built sedate driving.

Offroad or towing the diesel will win easily.

Thems my thoughts

Gazzz

[incisor]

having owned both i can assure you the diesel is streets ahead of the v8 in fuel economy on and off the highway even when pulling a decent sized trailer and with the tweak the snailitis is much deminished as well.

the v8's dont sound that nice they drown out the sound of the unleaded fuel bowsers ticking over at warp speed..

[one_iota]

I believe in the law of averages on and off road regardless of how much of each type travelled...the diesel wins ...it is predictable at 10 to 11 litres /100 km regardless

[CraigE]

The other thing that needs to be considered other than fuel economy is initial cost and cost of repairs. I would even have a V8 Disco with the price of fuel at the moment. I saw a 97 the other day for $4k. Now the same in a diesel would be approaching $20k plus. It would be hard to go through that much extra fuel. Parts are cheap, diesel parts especially Td5 are dear bordering on obscene. Servicing a V8 is easy and cheap.
Now if you get one on gas like my RR was you will get about the same fuel expense (not economy as you will use a lot more lpg) as a diesel. Diesel in some parts is now 20c per litre dearer. If I had to buy another 4wd on the second hand market I think I would get a V8.

[Ralph1Malph]

Originally posted by seqfisho+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(seqfisho)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-NOZ
I get about 700ks to 80odd litres so thats about 11lt/100ks

deisel $1.22 x 82lt = $ 100app


leaded $1.07 x 82lt = $ 88app


about $12 a tank difference


Except that $88 a tank is only getting you about 400-450KMs 8O 8O 8O 8O[/b][/quote]

LPG is robbery at the moment :evil:
Circa 2004 could buy it in Melb for around 30cpl https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ , now nudging 60cpl! :evil:
Even so, I get 200-230 km city or 300-330km hwy from 70 litres LPG.
Thats $42. Fill up again (now $84 total) and I am getting in excess of 400 city or 600 km hwy. One more fill up (did I mention I do that a lot!) and so goes the maths.

This equation works best when there is a damn good gap between liquid energy and LPG. I will vouch though that when dragging something heavy for a while or putting the boot in when in the mud, you become friends with the student at the counter at the servo.

Like a few others, I will keep the beast for the forseeable future as they are worth bugger all now!

Regards
Ralph

[dragonwagon]

Our 3.9 auto LPG Disco averages about 20-22 l/100km normal driving around town, & about 17-18 l/100km highway.

However off road it gets seriously thirsty, our Christmas trip this year with lots of low range work we did 280 km & used 121 ltrs of fuel 8O

It does sound nice though :wink:

Greg

[PhilipA]

OK , I can't resist.
Yes a diesel is much cheaper on fuel .
BUT that is the only thing a diesel is better at. Oh forgot fuel range.

1 Overtaking -V8 every time
2 climbing steep hills and overtaking on a hill , forget it.
3 Acceleration. Once a chipped (I assume) or delusions of grandeur D2 tried to drag me from the tolls at the M5. I had 5 people in and he had 1. within 100 metres he was about 30 behind. UK tests tested the hottest chipped diesels on a VERY cold day. None beat about 13 seconds 0-60. SLOOOW.

4 Reliability-. Yeah V8 s do head gaskets, and just about nothing else. Diesels seem to do everything at eye watering cost. Just one diesel problem seems to be the cost of a brand new V8. And one problem buys a lot of petrol.
5 Slow off road work-. I am in the discovery club. Lots of disco diesels. Trying to get up a step in a diesel auto. Nothiiiing, nothiiing, LOTS of power. Oops there go the sills. V8 pulls consistently from about 800rpm.
6 Sand work- steep hill diesel no go
7 Diesel is dead under the foot. A V8 feels alive and responsive and sounds luvverly.
8 Diesel finicky on fuel. On our recent club trips the only stopping problems we have had are diesels not going properly from dirty fuel.

I believe you ain't seen nuthin yet on the difference between diesel fuel price and petrol.
The V8 defence rests.
Regards Philip A

[Ace]

There is always a gas conversion. A very viable option if you arent straying to far from civilisation. matt

[incisor]

what the hell have you been smokin, diesel fumes?

v8's are renown for dropping dead with ignition module woes..

fuel pump woes are pretty dam common as well

i wont bother to mention the soft cams...

never had a problem with my auto diesel on sandy hills, more id-ten-t error than mechanical inability i think..

ummmm v8 water pump = $275.00, diesel waterpump = $88.00 .... oops nuther theory out the door....

so you get to the next garage quicker, by the time you fill up we have gone past anyway https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

yawn ........ :wink: :wink:

[Ace]

Originally posted by incisor
what the hell have you been smokin, diesel fumes?

v8's are renown for dropping dead with ignition module woes..

fuel pump woes are pretty dam common as well

i wont bother to mention the soft cams...

never had a problem with my auto diesel on sandy hills, more id-ten-t error than mechanical inability i think..

ummmm v8 water pump = $275.00, diesel waterpump = $88.00 .... oops nuther theory out the door....

so you get to the next garage quicker, by the time you fill up we have gone past anyway https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

yawn ........ :wink: :wink:

i conccur. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[dungarover]

You can all crap on about your diesel fuel economy but I'll still be driving my V8 Rangie when prices go up https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :twisted:

Water pumps at the most are less than $200 if you shop around. The price that Incisor quoted is possibly LR price. No offense, you have to be a goose to buy parts from the dealers 8O

Cams, only at 200K mark and that's at the most. Cams are still cheaper to replace than a timing belt on a tdi (close to a grand I heard at a workshop, maybe wrong :? ).

Ignition problems- Carry a spare ignition amplifier/modulator, even new ones for RR classics aren't that dear new and cheap insurance. I happen to have a spare so I'm okay. Waterproofing your V8 isn't too difficult, a good excuse to get in the shed and modify your Rangie/Disco https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Each to there own I guess, it's an age-old arguement.

Back on topic, a V8 Disco 2 is still a good buy even if it's a bit exxy to run. LPG is negative economy now with prices well into the 60c/liter mark now and pertol in QLD at $1.06 at some Brissie servos today it's not much of a saving for all that money spent on a conversion.

Just my thoughts,

Trav

[NOZ]

Look I agree with points from both sides of the discussion, but I think no matter how you look at it the gap between the too has narrowed and as deisel fuel increases it will continue to narrow

[PhilipA]

Originally posted by incisor
what the hell have you been smokin, diesel fumes?

v8's are renown for dropping dead with ignition module woes..

fuel pump woes are pretty dam common as well

i wont bother to mention the soft cams...

never had a problem with my auto diesel on sandy hills, more id-ten-t error than mechanical inability i think..

ummmm v8 water pump = $275.00, diesel waterpump = $88.00 .... oops nuther theory out the door....

so you get to the next garage quicker, by the time you fill up we have gone past anyway https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

yawn ........ :wink: :wink:
Thats another one- Chipped Diesel owners must be the most inconsiderate people in the World. Every chipped diesel I have seen smokes like an old steam train and to follow even a standard one on a trail makes my wife nauseous from the fumes.

What about the parts list?. It all adds up to about a grand on a V8.
A TD5 head gasket which many times equals new head is about $5000, or $2000 just for labour. TD5 oil pumps Kerbang. What was the quote $17000???
I think diesel drivers have lots of time to rationalise on all the fuel they are saving as they climb slowly up hills, and then ignorer the noise, lack of power,smoke, peaky no bottom end performance etc etc.
Regards Philip A

[Lucy]

I couldn't decide, that is why I have one of each 8)

[dungarover]

Originally posted by Lucy
I couldn't decide, that is why I have one of each 8)

Best of both worlds, stops all the arguements https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Trav

[incisor]

Originally posted by aquarangie
You can all crap on about your diesel fuel economy but I'll still be driving my V8 Rangie when prices go up https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :twisted:

Water pumps at the most are less than $200 if you shop around. The price that Incisor quoted is possibly LR price. No offense, you have to be a goose to buy parts from the dealers 8O
both from the same place... i wanted to keep it relative https://www.aulro.com/afvb/


Originally posted by aquarangie

Cams, only at 200K mark and that's at the most. Cams are still cheaper to replace than a timing belt on a tdi (close to a grand I heard at a workshop, maybe wrong :? ).
you are https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ 400 bucks at most for the timing belt change....

Originally posted by aquarangie

Ignition problems- Carry a spare ignition amplifier/modulator, even new ones for RR classics aren't that dear new and cheap insurance. I happen to have a spare so I'm okay. Waterproofing your V8 isn't too difficult, a good excuse to get in the shed and modify your Rangie/Disco https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
while us diesel drivers are out enjoying the countryside....

Originally posted by aquarangie

Each to there own I guess, it's an age-old arguement.

Back on topic, a V8 Disco 2 is still a good buy even if it's a bit exxy to run. LPG is negative economy now with prices well into the 60c/liter mark now and pertol in QLD at $1.06 at some Brissie servos today it's not much of a saving for all that money spent on a conversion.

Just my thoughts,

Trav
i agree gas is an utter waste of time, and petrol discos are better than diesels around town, no argument... but if you do any serious milage they are way to dear to run...unless of course you are better off than the average joe blow...

[cewilson]

You've got to be kidding aren't you! I've heard some good reasons and arguments for Diesel vs Petrol before - but some of them ones are quite funny indeed! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Yes fuel economy is a big plus for diesels - nothing new there.

Yes diesel is available more in the outback compared to petrol - nothing new there.

Yes petrols are generally quicker vehicle than diesels - nothing new there.

Yes some diesels smoke - nothing new there either. But I will say you might want to have a look at some of the diesel engines coming out now days - they may suprise you.

Yes petrol is meant to be better in sand etc - excellent. But I'm yet to have any major problems with beaches like Stockton, or deserts like the Simpson in my 200tdi.

Overtaking - never had a problem again. My Defender is capable of 140km/h plus (I've spent a lot of time in the NT). It may take a little (and note little) longer than a petrol to get there but so what.


Personally I think that both engines in the vehicles are very capable, and do exactly as they are designed to do.


BUT, at the end of the day it's your decision alone as to what you have bought, and you can make either argument seem worthy! :wink:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Originally posted by PhilipA
OK , I can't resist.
Yes a diesel is much cheaper on fuel .
BUT that is the only thing a diesel is better at. Oh forgot fuel range.

1 Overtaking -V8 every time
2 climbing steep hills and overtaking on a hill , forget it.
3 Acceleration. Once a chipped (I assume) or delusions of grandeur D2 tried to drag me from the tolls at the M5. I had 5 people in and he had 1. within 100 metres he was about 30 behind. UK tests tested the hottest chipped diesels on a VERY cold day. None beat about 13 seconds 0-60. SLOOOW.

4 Reliability-. Yeah V8 s do head gaskets, and just about nothing else. Diesels seem to do everything at eye watering cost. Just one diesel problem seems to be the cost of a brand new V8. And one problem buys a lot of petrol.
5 Slow off road work-. I am in the discovery club. Lots of disco diesels. Trying to get up a step in a diesel auto. Nothiiiing, nothiiing, LOTS of power. Oops there go the sills. V8 pulls consistently from about 800rpm.
6 Sand work- steep hill diesel no go
7 Diesel is dead under the foot. A V8 feels alive and responsive and sounds luvverly.
8 Diesel finicky on fuel. On our recent club trips the only stopping problems we have had are diesels not going properly from dirty fuel.

I believe you ain't seen nuthin yet on the difference between diesel fuel price and petrol.
The V8 defence rests.
Regards Philip A


And what a defence it was https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Pedro_The_Swift]

AND---

I'm actually looking forward to this soft cam thing happening,,( though at 280 odd thousand no signs yet https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ )

because then if I "chip' (read new cam) my V8 you guys in diesels wont even HEAR which way I went. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Jamo]

Yeah, but if you put a bullet through a petrol tank, the car will blow up! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ With a diesel, you'll just lose your fuel. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Originally posted by Jamo
Yeah, but if you put a bullet through a petrol tank, the car will blow up! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ With a diesel, you'll just lose your fuel. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

has to be a tracer---

and V8's move too fast to get shot https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[one_iota]

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pedro_The_Swift)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Jamo
Yeah, but if you put a bullet through a petrol tank, the car will blow up! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ With a diesel, you'll just lose your fuel. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

has to be a tracer---

and V8's move too fast to get shot https://www.aulro.com/afvb/[/b][/quote]

I'm going to get a sticker made:

"Caution: Land Rover powered by Napalm"

[dungarover]

For the 4wd work I do which involves lots of hard, steep and diff-lock type hills with plenty of 'surprises' thrown in for good measure, the V8 engine is suitable for my needs. Plenty of torque from idle and quick response.

The tdi/td5 would give me the ****s off-road IMO. Plus you can't bet that melody from the exhaust, the fuel costs are well worth it.

Trav

[dungarover]

Originally posted by one_iota+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(one_iota)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift@
<!--QuoteBegin-Jamo
Yeah, but if you put a bullet through a petrol tank, the car will blow up! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ With a diesel, you'll just lose your fuel. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

has to be a tracer---

and V8's move too fast to get shot https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

I'm going to get a sticker made:

"Caution: Land Rover powered by Napalm"[/b][/quote]

If you make 'em, I would definatley want one.

It can go next to the other sticker I have, 'I plaster Mon to fri, and get plastered on the weekend!!!'

Trav

[disco95]

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pedro_The_Swift)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Jamo
Yeah, but if you put a bullet through a petrol tank, the car will blow up! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ With a diesel, you'll just lose your fuel. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

has to be a tracer---

and V8's move too fast to get shot https://www.aulro.com/afvb/[/b][/quote]

I think I saw them try that one out on mythbusters. No matter what they did they couldn't get the car to blow up. :roll:

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Hmmm.. on our desert trip we used 160l. the petrol rangies used more like 350l. Where would i put it? 8O 8O

[NOZ]

I love my tdi but would also love the V8 just in a different way.

I know one thing if I raced a V8 he wouldnt see which way I went for that matter no one behind me would, smokin :roll:

[DiscoTDI]

Just remember guys, This is only an issue in landrover and nissan world. I drive a 2005 model cruiser for work which is a diesel and it gets 6kpl and my V8 disco gets 6.5kpl , so driving a V8 land Rover over a diesel cruiser Ill take the V8 any day :wink:

[abaddonxi]

Originally posted by DiscoTDI
Just remember guys, This is only an issue in landrover and nissan world. I drive a 2005 model cruiser for work which is a diesel and it gets 6kpl and my V8 disco gets 6.5kpl , so driving a V8 land Rover over a diesel cruiser Ill take the V8 any day :wink:

Which is one reason why I bought a Land Rover, only proper 4wd with an engine that isn't ridiculously large.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

cheers
SImon

[Pedro_The_Swift]

RR HSE 4.6


mmmmmmmmmmmmm,,, 8)

[one_iota]

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift
RR HSE 4.6


mmmmmmmmmmmmm,,, 8)

Watch it Pedro

You'll go blind 8)

[DiscoMick]

I think v8 Landys get a bad rap re fuel economy when you look up the sorts of fuel consumption of V8 Cruisers and Patrols, which are certainly at least comparable with the Landy V8.

But I'll still keep my tdi thanks10-11l/100 km whether towing or not. 8)

[DiscoSeriesII]

I've waited 17 years (since the Disco was first introduced) before I could be the proud owner of "The Swiss Army Knife of SUVs"! This statement is for all Rovers, not just the Disco!

So I disregard its fuel consumption! I give it what's needed for me to enjoy!

[Jamo]

Originally posted by disco95+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(disco95)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift@
<!--QuoteBegin-Jamo
Yeah, but if you put a bullet through a petrol tank, the car will blow up! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ With a diesel, you'll just lose your fuel. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

has to be a tracer---

and V8's move too fast to get shot https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

I think I saw them try that one out on mythbusters. No matter what they did they couldn't get the car to blow up. :roll:[/b][/quote]

But were they using a .50cal?? :?:

I would rather like a Supercharged Rangie Vogue. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[LoadedDisco]

I’m not sure but I think they did use a .50 cal. And if it is they used the same rifle on the myth of how far in a bullet will travel if shot in to the water.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

yea its the same gun,,,

pretty awesome piece of kit 8O


went through half an inch of steel plate 8O

[Jamo]

Originally posted by LoadedDisco
I’m not sure but I think they did use a .50 cal. And if it is they used the same rifle on the myth of how far in a bullet will travel if shot in to the water.

What's the water myth??

Must admit, I've never stopped to remove the tracer rounds except twhen there had been a fire risk.. and then firing at petrol drums was not smart!

[Ace]

Originally posted by aquarangie
For the 4wd work I do which involves lots of hard, steep and diff-lock type hills with plenty of 'surprises' thrown in for good measure, the V8 engine is suitable for my needs. Plenty of torque from idle and quick response.

The tdi/td5 would give me the Sh*t off-road IMO. Plus you can't bet that melody from the exhaust, the fuel costs are well worth it.

Trav

Can i ask why trav? I am not getting involved in this debate it is worse than the my beer is better than yours debate but i would be interested to know why it would **** you off road. I love mine off road. In low range turbo lag is non existent and they pull like a train up steep hills in first low. What is it that ****s you about the diesels? matt

[dungarover]

Originally posted by Ace+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ace)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-aquarangie
For the 4wd work I do which involves lots of hard, steep and diff-lock type hills with plenty of 'surprises' thrown in for good measure, the V8 engine is suitable for my needs. Plenty of torque from idle and quick response.

The tdi/td5 would give me the Sh*t off-road IMO. Plus you can't bet that melody from the exhaust, the fuel costs are well worth it.

Trav

Can i ask why trav? I am not getting involved in this debate it is worse than the my beer is better than yours debate but i would be interested to know why it would sh*t you off road. I love mine off road. In low range turbo lag is non existent and they pull like a train up steep hills in first low. What is it that Sh*t you about the diesels? matt[/b][/quote]

I remember when I was looking for Aquarangie, I looked at a tdi Disco and took it for a run. It was gutless, noisy and the damn thing sounded like a tractor. Maybe I looked at a bad example, but off-putting enough for me.

I also know my way around a petrol better than a diesel, plus the cost of parts when I looked into it was exxy.

When I was younger my old man had a MQ Patrol Diesel, great vehicle and it never broke down, but I have horrid memories on holidays away the smell on long drives would make me crook and I would spew at least once. Nothing much had changed now, I get headaches from diesel fumes (probably why I prefer to lead trips than be a participant https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ )

That's my reason. I'll die a V8 man, even if I go broke running one https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Trav

[DiscoMick]

Each to his own I guess.
My tdi is certainly no rocketship at fast highway speeds, but then if I'd wanted a sports car I'd have bought one.
At slow off road speeds the auto gearing and low range mean it just idles over pretty much everything and has good downhill engine braking.
It has a snorkel and I rather like the echo up the snorkel.
I don't notice any diesel fumes. Maybe the ones you smelt with that problem were running rich?
The V8s sound nice, but I don't need the extra power. And I'm very happy averaging 10l/100km.
Might you, an intercooler, extractors and better exhaust are on the wish list, but thats for low down pulling power with the camper up hills, not top speed.

[blitz]

Driving my old girl 'normally' I get about 16 -17 lt per hundred km but when the urge to play comes around anywhere up to about 35lt per hundred. BUT no-one can keep up with me so I dont care about fuel cost during play.

Just a point to ponder ifV8 discos are so cheap now why are the engines still expensive to buy??

Blythe

[sti04]

I've just got a 02 disco td5,test drove the td5 then the v8 straight after and didnt really notice that much of a differance in performance.Didnt get to drive them up hills etc.The td5 dosnt smell or have huge amounts of smoke out the back either.For the amount of extra fuel the v8 uses compared to the performance gain over the deisel i didnt think it was worth it for the long distance driving i will be doing.

[duff]

I have owned a 94 V8(a few older rangies) and now the 02 TD5. For my money the V8 was an all round better package.

I experienced that for around town shopping (stop start) the diesel pays dividends.

For the bulk of my time the V8 was the better option when the things are expected to pull my van and carry all the go away schtuff, and cruise on a reasonable pace100-120, contending with head winds, hills, semis, and moblie roadbloacks (NISSOTAS towing vans). The V8's I have owned have not used a great deal more than the TD5 doing the same trips, in fact at current prices the extra cost my V8's would consume could almost be negligable.

The TD5 is a damn fine engine but I found the V8 is a better engine. relaxed, reliable, blokey, Mind you my wife even preferred squeezing the throttle of the V8 and having a sexy growl burble out. After having the V8's for a long time the Diesels just never sound healthy. In fact I cant drive the thing with the windows down,,, it starts to affect me a bit like the neighbours dog that just wont shut up 8O . (thank god the landys do have great aircons)

For me the current trend couldnt be better, when I head down south next year I should get a good price for the TD5, and pick up a bargain V8 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Steinzy]

Originally posted by DiscoMick
I think v8 Landys get a bad rap re fuel economy when you look up the sorts of fuel consumption of V8 Cruisers and Patrols, which are certainly at least comparable with the Landy V8.

But I'll still keep my tdi thanks10-11l/100 km whether towing or not. 8)

Well I totally agree My 99 4.0 rangie get 16-17L/100km Daily driving and 13-15L/100km highway giving my around 650km to a tank (100L).

My uncle has just bought a brand new 4.8 6cyl patrol and he gets about 23-25L/100km daily driving.

So that said for a 2.5 tonne 4wd my rangie perform pretty well and its standard https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[dungarover]

Fuel economy is when the needle is on the E mark and the low fuel light is on, time to fill up. I've never kept score of my fuel usage, I'm enjoying my Rangie to give a stuff about it https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Trav

[Quiggers]

these conversations, discussions, arguments etc. are getting pretty tired, from my POV; V8s in anything suck juice....

buy any big 4wd and budget for 20l per hundred...

can't afford it???

buy a little kia thingy

want the big flash 4wd?

it comes at a price...they all suck bucket loads of juice, just get one that does what you want and doesn't fail........

having had 2 V8 Disco 1s I'm not complaining

think I'll go out now and fire it up just to hear that grunt and maybe wake up the neighboursssssssss,, hey they went to bed when 'big dog' appeared....

now, there's a very old 351 ci windsor in the garage, but it doesn't sound as loud as my original Kwaka 9.....(then there's the Merc, outboards really suck!!!)

fuel is cheap (ish)

ta ta GQ (I'm now in the shed).

[Quiggers]

BTW back from the shed...

i had a (new) Bronco back in 85 with a 351 and it did an amazing 14 mpg, jeez it was good!!!!!!!

I'd have it back tomorrow, what a truck!

Off road? weighed in at 2.2t which is about about 500kg less than a new D3!

and did beaches very nicely, (but I had to lock the front hubs, manually)

fuel is your cheapest worry

ask the guys with D2 tdi donks and $15,000+ concerns regarding a certain bolt sans loctite...(see other posts)

who gives a ***** could all be dead tomorow

cheers, GQ (I'll just go back to the shed now). luv yuz all

[FenianEel]

Originally posted by Quiggers
BTW back from the shed...

i had a (new) Bronco back in 85 with a 351 and it did an amazing 14 mpg, jeez it was good!!!!!!!

I'd have it back tomorrow, what a truck!

Off road? weighed in at 2.2t which is about about 500kg less than a new D3!

and did beaches very nicely, (but I had to lock the front hubs, manually)

fuel is your cheapest worry

ask the guys with D2 tdi donks and $15,000+ concerns regarding a certain bolt sans loctite...(see other posts)

who gives a ***** could all be dead tomorow

cheers, GQ (I'll just go back to the shed now). luv yuz all

Ditto & ditto

Had a Bronco out on my uncle's farm at Glen Davis (Ace territory), for a brick, it was awesome - went everywhere, weighed a packet - used juice like we use oxygen!!! Did interstate runs, bush, beach and everywhere else! It eventually got deregistered and i left it on the farm. Last time I saw it, it was still going minus doors, windscreen and back window.

It had an auto and "jumped" into drive one day! 8O Was at Eagle Farm outside the races, got out to see a jockey who rode fro my uncle, left bronco in nuetral and running...then it started off down the road without us https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ Was a comedy act running and jumping in after it https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/