D4 Replacement Windscreen

[DieselLSE]

I have to replace the OEM screen and as the car is over three years old RACV will not pay for an original screen. Couple of questions for the Aulro brains trust(!):
1. Is it possible to retrofit a heated screen to a non-heated screen D4? That is, is it just a case of finding the wires and re-configuring the CCF?
2. Is the Pilkington opticool glass the same as the OEM glass, just without the Landrover logo?

[RHS58]

Have just this afternoon had a conversation with RACQ insurance about replacing the cracked windscreen on my 2013 D4.
i requested OEM, having heard of aftermarket screens adversely affecting the operation of the automatic headlight and wiper sensors.
The installer phoned an hour ago and advised that he’ll be ordering the screen from Land Rover (and trim clips) - seems to believe that there’s no suitable aftermarket screen.

[Ferret]

2. Is the Pilkington opticool glass the same as the OEM glass, just without the Landrover logo?

Yes.

[RobA]

Had a similar discussion with RAA last year. who were pushing their screens Asked one question. Would LRA warrant the car in a crash if you fitted a non OE windscreen and if that happened I am assuming you will cover all and any subsequent damages/repairs. Vis what if the auto wipers/headlights/other safety items no longer work with your screen. We got an OE screen and our card has probably been marked as a naughty customer

Rob

[letherm]

I have mine booked in for this coming Friday after a repair of a stone chip wasn't satisfactory. It's directly in my line of sight and noticeable. OEM screen at my request plus new clips as advised on this forum. My insurance company NRMA said that they would use OEM unless they aren't available. The PDS says that they may use aftermarket screens but that's if they can't source an OEM one. Be aware though that unless you ask for an OEM one you may end up with aftermarket by default. Car is just on 4 years old so technically out of standard warranty period although I have the 5 year extended warranty.

Martin

[Hugh Jars]

Opticool is a trade name for a the tinted interlayer that Pilks may use for their various OEM glasses.
The glass itself should have no impact on the functionality of the varous light and rain sensors.
As for the heating element, can’t help you re the wiring and/or faults. The profile of the glass is the same, so a non-heated glass would fit the aperture of a heated one (and save you some loot).

[Nicky]

Opticool is a trade name for a the tinted interlayer that Pilks may use for their various OEM glasses.
The glass itself should have no impact on the functionality of the varous light and rain sensors.
As for the heating element, can’t help you re the wiring and/or faults. The profile of the glass is the same, so a non-heated glass would fit the aperture of a heated one (and save you some loot).

I doubt that the original windscreen is heated, the de-mister will do what's needed. A heated screen would have wires in it ( like the rear glass)

[101RRS]

In many overseas countries the D3/D4 has a heated screen as original fit. I remember some discussion a while back and some also crept in on some Aussie spec cars.

[jonesy63]

... A heated screen would have wires in it ( like the rear glass)

Yes - they do! As a part of the "cool climate" pack - which has the heated elements at the bottom of the screen - near the windscreen wipers. Also has heated steering wheel and seats too, IIRC. A mate has this in his D4 HSE.

[101RRS]

Also has heated steering wheel and seats too, IIRC. A mate has this in his D4 HSE.

Don't forget heated external rear vision mirrors. My 1995MY Disco 1 had heated rear vision mirrors as standard but my 07MY RRS doesn't.

[Hugh Jars]

I doubt that the original windscreen is heated, the de-mister will do what's needed. A heated screen would have wires in it ( like the rear glass)

The heated front glass will usually have a metallic coating on the interlayer (similar to aircraft), or a series of heating wires in the interlayer to rapidly heat the glass. Uses a lot of current though.
They differ from rear windscreens in the fact that, with exception to some ‘exotic’ (expensive) types like Benz and Jensen (which had laminated rear windscreens), most have a ‘hotline’ on toughened glass, which is a conductive ceramic paint that is screen-printed onto the flat glass. When it goes into the die bender (which bends the flat glass into its final curved shape), the paint is annealed into the surface by the heat of the furnace, and you have an instant demister.

[DI5CO]

Don't forget heated external rear vision mirrors. My 1995MY Disco 1 had heated rear vision mirrors as standard but my 07MY RRS doesn't.

Just check, I think from memory my D1 had a separate button for the heated mirrors but the D2 didn’t but when you turn the rear demist (rear window) the heating in the mirrors worked. I think this is how they do it now. I have cold climate pack in the D4 and part of the pack didn’t include heated mirrors, they are std. I just turn rear demist on and the mirrors heat up.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/11/1019.jpg

[DI5CO]

It’s hard to see, but this is what the heated screen looks like. There is a tiny element running up the screen about 5mm apart all the way across.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2017/11/1020.jpg

[Trevlynn]

As the photo by Di5co shows there are no demister wires/lines. The heating element in the screen is very hard to see except when driving directly into the sun and even then it looks like almost "glitter" in the screen. It is never intrusive and most of the time you would not know it was there.

nothing better on a cold frosty morning than being able to clear the ice with the wipers after about 1 minute.

Trev

[cruiseh]

Have just this afternoon had a conversation with RACQ insurance about replacing the cracked windscreen on my 2013 D4.
i requested OEM, having heard of aftermarket screens adversely affecting the operation of the automatic headlight and wiper sensors.
The installer phoned an hour ago and advised that he’ll be ordering the screen from Land Rover (and trim clips) - seems to believe that there’s no suitable aftermarket screen.

i just had my heated screen(comes as part of cold climate pack) replaced, . Obriens fitted a non OEM screen, but none of the auto sensing issues exist, everything works fine. cant tell the difference, apart from the logo's

[RHS58]

i just had my heated screen(comes as part of cold climate pack) replaced, . Obriens fitted a non OEM screen, but none of the auto sensing issues exist, everything works fine. cant tell the difference, apart from the logo's

Thats good to hear.

I’m still waiting to hear back from the installer to arrange a time.
It’s been interesting in the meantime to watch the crack meandering slowly across the screen.

[Jeffoir]

I have to replace the OEM screen and as the car is over three years old RACV will not pay for an original screen. Couple of questions for the Aulro brains trust(!):
1. Is it possible to retrofit a heated screen to a non-heated screen D4? That is, is it just a case of finding the wires and re-configuring the CCF?
2. Is the Pilkington opticool glass the same as the OEM glass, just without the Landrover logo?

Hi Don,
Trust you are well.
Were you able to retrofit a heated screen into the D4 please?
The reason I ask is because OBriens replaced my daughter’s screen with a Pilkington Opticool and it has the heated elements embedded in the screen. (As per the photo in this thread).
daughters car is not set up for heated, but it would be nice to activate it. She lives in western NSW and gets frosts.
thank you and best wishes
jeff

[DieselLSE]

Hi Don,
Trust you are well.
Were you able to retrofit a heated screen into the D4 please?
The reason I ask is because OBriens replaced my daughter’s screen with a Pilkington Opticool and it has the heated elements embedded in the screen. (As per the photo in this thread).
daughters car is not set up for heated, but it would be nice to activate it. She lives in western NSW and gets frosts.
thank you and best wishes
jeff
Hi Jeffrey. All's well thanks. Just came in from prepping the D4 for our Simpson trip in a couple of weeks.
No, I replaced the screen with a genuine one but it was not heated. I would be surprised if the wiring connections were not already there for a heated screen, but I have not gone looking for them. When I get some time I'll check the wiring diagram and have a look for the relevant connection. The terminals on the new windscreen will give you a clue where to look.

[Tombie]

Hi Don,
Trust you are well.
Were you able to retrofit a heated screen into the D4 please?
The reason I ask is because OBriens replaced my daughter’s screen with a Pilkington Opticool and it has the heated elements embedded in the screen. (As per the photo in this thread).
daughters car is not set up for heated, but it would be nice to activate it. She lives in western NSW and gets frosts.
thank you and best wishes
jeff

Hi Jeff

The connections are behind the pillar trim... make sure theyre connected first
Then you'll need a centre control panel with the front demister button - you can get one from a wreck / new or go an aftermarket "Rangie Style" touch control
Then its a matter of goinginto the CCF and enabling the front screen demister function.

[Jeffoir]

Thank you Don and Tombie,
Greatly appreciated.
best. Jeff