50 year old single malt Genfiddich

[Roverlord off road spares]

I noticed and ad in the Melbourne Sun newspaper, Dan Murphy is selling various bottles of Glenfiddich Scotch, they ranged from the low end and worked up in years. 40 year old was something like $4K, but there are 2 bottles of 50 yrs old avail at $44,000!
If any of you have Christmas gift ideas for me, please don't bother as I don't think I can acquire 50 year old Coca Cola to compliment it.[biggrin]

[Zeros]

Jeepers! ...what I don't understand is how does anyone prove it's actually 50 years old? Or evenn 10 or 12 years for that matter?

[V8Ian]

And I was gunna, too, Mario. Oh well, saves me a bob or two. [smilebigeye]

[weeds]

It’d be a nice drop....not sure I would be adding coke

[Fifth Columnist]

Older doesn't always mean better.
For example:- An eight year old Talisker tastes far better than its ten year old elder brother.
I can think of many malts that are far superior to an, almost mass produced, Glenfiddich nice as it may be.

[Toxic_Avenger]

Not sure of this particular scotch, but some use the solera system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solera), where barrels of product are mixed and replenished in such a way that the overall average age is what is displayed. The benefit of this, is while it might state 18yrs, there is much older product in the blend.
As for proving its age... I think the distillery has a bit more than the purchase price screwing their customers on a few numbers and $50K. That, and Solera documentation needs to be reported to regulatory bodies, if it's applicable.

As for taste, it's subjective...

[mick88]

Certainly makes you wonder who would ever buy that to drink.
It would be interesting to know how many they move a year.
But I do realise that there are folk out there in the world that have unlimited wealth.

Cheers, Mick.

[Young Angus]

I'm not sure 50 year old coke would be any different to brand new coke, in fact I am confident in saying it'd be more of less exactly the same. You get the whiskey Mario and I'll bring the "50 year old" coke [emoji16]

[Zeros]

While it seems clear that the 'age statement' on a bottle of whisky must be the youngest age of the whiskey in the blend, it's difficult to find anything online about false age statements or how this is proven or regulated.

There is a move towards more NAS no age statement whiskey as supplies of aged whiskey dry up, which is a good sign re truth of age, but not much available as to how to prove the age.

[bsperka]

I'm not sure 50 year old coke would be any different to brand new coke, in fact I am confident in saying it'd be more of less exactly the same. You get the whiskey Mario and I'll bring the "50 year old" coke [emoji16]50 year old coke would have copper in the formula. No phosphoric acid either, I believe. Definitely no cocaine.

[Zeros]

50 year old coke would have copper in the formula. No phosphoric acid either, I believe. Definitely no cocaine.

I'd be surprised if 50 year old coke would still be in the bottle, given how corrosive it is!

[Roverlord off road spares]

And I was gunna, too, Mario. Oh well, saves me a bob or two. [smilebigeye]

Thanks mate, it's thought that counts. Cheers, Pardon the pun

[Roverlord off road spares]

Glenfiddich 50 Year Old Scotch Whisky 700mL | Dan Murphy's | Buy Wine, Champagne, Beer & Spirits Online (https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_710932/glenfiddich-50-year-old-scotch-whisky-700ml)

[Roverlord off road spares]

I'm not a scotch drinker, but i once bought an old boss of mine a bottle of Glenlivet for a Christmas present . Paid good money for it. In the new year he was peed off with me and told me I was a cheap skate. He said he pulled out the said bottle of scotch and offered a drink to some of his Christmas guests. He said he was embarrassed to serve it. So don't know if he got my Christmas pressy mixed up with some other employee's gift or what, but I was pretty peeved off at his comments.[bigsad] Maybe he needed to to mix it with coke.

[NavyDiver]

I'll have a dozen if your shouting [biggrin]

I had a drop of 100+ year old Rum in Canada for a "Splice the Main Brace" for the Candian Navy's 75th birhtday while on HMAS Hobart. It was from a bond store lost in time if my faded memory and brain cells are working today. I almost choked! I was 17 at the time. [tonguewink] The older crew said it was wonderfull stuff!!



My nice Next door wine shop has some very old French Cognac, whisky, scotch and wine that would kick DMs butt Buy Wine Online - Australian Boutique & Rare Wines (https://www.nicks.com.au/) DM accross the car park has the cheap mass producted stuff.[biggrin]

[Gordie]

I love a wine, and love a scotch, double black is one of my favourites at $50 per bottle. Sorry, gotta say though, anyone paying $44k for a bottle of scotch has rocks in their head....the world is just a little bit ****ed up in that case.

[singlecell]

I'm not a scotch drinker, but i once bought an old boss of mine a bottle of Glenlivet for a Christmas present . Paid good money for it. In the new year he was peed off with me and told me I was a cheap skate. He said he pulled out the said bottle of scotch and offered a drink to some of his Christmas guests. He said he was embarrassed to serve it. So don't know if he got my Christmas pressy mixed up with some other employee's gift or what, but I was pretty peeved off at his comments.[bigsad] Maybe he needed to to mix it with coke.
Glenlivet is definately a nice Scotch. Your old boss must have something wrong with him!

[Wraithe]

Glenfidich is blah... Its ok if you just want to down a bottle...

Glenlivit is far better, but the funniest thing, its also cheaper...

Malt whiskey is the better drop, then look at barrel origin... Some use Oak thats had other things in it prior... Age means nothing now, some of the older whiskeys dont taste as good as the younger stuff...

Me, personally, I prefer Irish whiskey over Scottish but even some of the Irish whiskey is not worth opening...

Bushmills Malt, Black bush is a cheap, smooth drinking whiskey.. Last time I opened a bottle, I left an inch in the bottom for the following nights dinner, it didnt make it, lunch time it kind of vanished down with lunch... Now that stuff makes a fine drinking whiskey...
Oh I wish I could still knock back a bottle of that stuff...


If you have to mix coke in a whiskey to drink it, go back to your bourbons, leave the real whiskey to the rest of us...

[ramblingboy42]

barrel origin.....might surprise you to learn that Jack Daniels only use their barrels once....they are then onsold to scotch whisky distilleries to mature their whisky in whiskey barrels.

[Tins]

barrel origin.....might surprise you to learn that Jack Daniels only use their barrels once....they are then onsold to scotch whisky distilleries to mature their whisky in whiskey barrels.

Doesn't surprise me. That has been occurring for a very long time. Scotch is matured in bourbon barrels, American whiskey barrels, Irish whiskey barrels, French wine barrels. It is one of the many things that makes a decent Malt stand out from the predictable, boring bourbons such as Jack Daniels. Only the Japanese, and now the Tasmanians, can hold a candle to a good single Malt. Even good Scotch blends make the American product look, and taste, terrible.

Of course, if people choose to mix whiskey, or whisky, with a mixer then they will never know the difference. Anyone who puts ANYTHING except a tiny dribble of water with a single malt, either Scotch, Irish, Japanese or Tasmanian is a Philistine, and needs to be put in the stocks to be pelted with rotten fruit.

Bourbon is why why Coke was invented; they needed something sweet to kill the taste. Don't talk to me about Single Barrel garbage, or Maker's Mark, or anything else. I have been doing this for a long time. I know that taste is subjective, and we all have preferences, and all of that. I have never, ever, tasted a bourbon, priced at $ 200 a bottle maybe, that even approaches the complexity of flavour and finish of the $40 Glen Moray I have sitting next to me right now.

At this time in my life I have absolutely ZERO interest in picking a fight. People change as they age. To me, Bourbon is a way of drinking, not appreciating. As I posted elsewhere, I needed a quick shot. Bourbon works as well as anything, short of Vodka, for that. But, when getting drunk isn't the goal, have a crack at a good, intense, single malt Scotch. The stuff is astonishing.

[350RRC]

In the mid 80's my old man went to the US for 9 months on a study tour. Brought me back a boxed bottle of Glenfiddich which would have been at least 8 years old at the time. Would be roughly 40 years old today.

Box sat on the top shelf of a dresser for years. Went to move it one day and it felt a bit light on. Bottle inside was empty, ex wifey had been hooking in. She'd also cleaned out a boxed sample set of a dozen different single malts and just put the bottles back in the box.

She bought a replacement (this would be in the late 90's) which went in the box which I still have somewhere.

I like all the single malts and their differences, but Glenfiddich is really not that special.

cheers, DL

[Tins]

In the mid 80's my old man went to the US for 9 months on a study tour. Brought me back a boxed bottle of Glenfiddich which would have been at least 8 years old at the time. Would be roughly 40 years old today.

Box sat on the top shelf of a dresser for years. Went to move it one day and it felt a bit light on. Bottle inside was empty, ex wifey had been hooking in. She'd also cleaned out a boxed sample set of a dozen different single malts and just put the bottles back in the box.

She bought a replacement (this would be in the late 90's) which went in the box which I still have somewhere.

I like all the single malts and their differences, but Glenfiddich is really not that special.

cheers, DL

Glenfiddich is nice enough in it's way, but it is quite bland really. When you are feeling rich, buy an 18yo The Macallan. Even the 12yo old is gorgeous. Speyside single malt.

[ATH]

For a nice drop of just drinking and enjoying I like Teachers. Yes I know it's a blend etc. but as far as my taste is concerned it beats some of the singles malts for taste. I do like Glenmorangey as a mate from up near Dundee can testify ..... [bighmmm] He offered me a sip or two or two and got back a sip or two left in the bottom for himself.
I bought a bloke who did a bit of work for me (forget what it was) a bottle of Johhny Walker Black once and when I knew he polluted it with coke, the next time I gave him a bottle of real crap "cooking Scotch" and he complained. [bigsmile]
How anyone can do that to such a great drink with such vile muck as coke I don't know.
AlanH.

[gordo 350]

I done a tour of the glen fiddich distillery in the mid ninetys. They showed us 2 barrels that had been found down the back of an old shed. They were stamped 1899. Story was told that they were going to wait till they were 100 years old and open them. If they were good then sell as 100 single malt. Maybe these barrels were mixed with some other barrels to get 50 year old blend.. Either way, I can't afford it

[Toxic_Avenger]

Had a bruichladdich at my local a few weeks back - a very nice drop. Had a few sips neat, then added a few drops of water to it and it almost blew the top of my head off. Completely changes the flavour.
I'm by no means an expert but its fun to drink 'for science'.

[ramblingboy42]

No matter what recommendations I get from people it doesn't change my personal taste.
I love Jack Daniels Old No 7. I have drunk I think, all of Jack Daniels offerings over 50yrs of indulging.
I have drunk many alternatives to JD7 but still prefer it. My taste , my choice.
My wife drinks good scotch with pepsi max... we rarely have coke in our place (but I dont mind the new sugar free coffee flavour), which will incur further argument....but it's her taste.
The best thing is to enjoy what you love , it's like Land Rovers...personal taste.


Merry Xmas to all and I'll raise one to you all.

[Zeros]

I done a tour of the glen fiddich distillery in the mid ninetys. They showed us 2 barrels that had been found down the back of an old shed. They were stamped 1899. Story was told that they were going to wait till they were 100 years old and open them. If they were good then sell as 100 single malt. Maybe these barrels were mixed with some other barrels to get 50 year old blend.. Either way, I can't afford it

'Maybe' is the operative word. How would we ever know? Even if I could afford it I'd be dubious.

Laphroig is my go to favourite...+ anything seriously peat and smoke.

Not interested in the sweet Americans. Can't beat the complexity of real single malts.

[Gordie]

Laphroig is my go to favourite...+ anything seriously peat and smoke. . I love peat and smoke...so in that case you recommend Laphroig? I have never tried it.

[Zeros]

I love peat and smoke...so in that case you recommend Laphroig? I have never tried it.

Absolutely Gordie...you're in for a treat. ...also Caol Ile.

What's your fave peaty and smoky?

[Gordie]

JW double black is as smokey as I have got. I will give it a go, cheers.

[ramblingboy42]

One of the problems facing all the whisky/whiskey distillers is just like this....

I have an old mate... an old bastard in fact , who distills his own.

I have a quite wealthy old mate who is also friends with the old bastard......and me.

Often when I'm away on my SA desert trips . Hobbsy, the old bastard opens a bottle of his "hooch" Glenfiddich, and Roger the wealthy old mate will open a bottle of his "price undisclosed price single malt Glenfiddich" and we will do taste comparisons......you know how it goes...."pour me another , I haven't quite got the taste"....into the night.....most enjoyable past time.

The problem is the taste is not discernible between the hooch and the real McCoy.

Now I'm starting to wonder if the distillers know this and are just marketing flavoured alcohol.

Not long ago , I was in Tennessee, and went to Lychburg (what a fantastic time halted place) to Jack Daniels Distillery where I spent a day and toured the distillery and saw and smelt and tasted and touched everything Jack Daniels.........

....but I have read recently where some of the major distllers cannot...I say again....cannot themselves discern the difference between their genuine distllled and aged product and a clean flavoured alcohol of the same name.

simply spoken it is just chemistry, the same taste can be achieved chemically as it can over years of ageing and all the process involved....

I can tell a similar story about a famous Australian wine making company as well.

[ATH]

I used to love watching the barman's face in the golf club when a pillock came up to the bar and stood there eyeing up all the bottles of Scotch on display. "I'll try a drop of that 25 year old mate".
And John would pour him a tot and the pillock would then go through the performance of tasting it....."I'll have a dose of coke in that as well mate"!
John used to just slide me a look which said it all. [biggrin]
AlanH.

[Fifth Columnist]

I love peat and smoke...so in that case you recommend Laphroig? I have never tried it.
Get the 10 year old Laphroag; it's smokier and peatier. [bigsmile]

I rate The Famous Grouse as the pinacle of blended Scotches.