View Full Version : I found an Unused Relay?
pwillo
7th December 2017, 06:01 PM
I had lost my brake lights on the Perentie so today was fix day.  Tracking chasing and research located a plug had come apart on the brake switch behind the master cylinder on the pedal box.
Whilst there I noticed a 'spare' relay, well maybe not spare but certainly not attached to any thing.
it looks like the one beside it which  also don't know the purpose of.  The fuse attached to the relay in use is the power fuse for the engine start/stop motor.
Can anyone tell me what it's for? 
its almost like there's a connector block for it zip tied out of the way.
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Bearman
7th December 2017, 07:19 PM
It looks like an edic motor relay (fuel on/off). But you would wonder why they would leave it there if faulty.
BadCo.
7th December 2017, 08:07 PM
Left one is the alternator relay, and like bearman said the other is the edic motor. It looks like some has just bypassed it and put a jumper in.
Bearman
7th December 2017, 08:26 PM
I think the one on the left is an edic relay as well (even has the blade fuse) but can't understand why they just didn't remove the old one.
pwillo
7th December 2017, 08:38 PM
They do look the same, the one with the fuse is connected but there does seem to be a plug zip tied out of the way which if un zipped would plug straight in.
it's almost as if the wiring had been extended to the new relay.  I may have to cut the zip tie to see more.  
Regards
pwillo
8th December 2017, 06:28 AM
Left one is the alternator relay, and like bearman said the other is the edic motor. It looks like some has just bypassed it and put a jumper in.
What does an alternator relay do in that location?
Bearman
8th December 2017, 06:56 AM
I don't think it is an alternator relay - don't think there is one.
BadCo.
8th December 2017, 03:52 PM
What does an alternator relay do in that location?
Well the relay is for the light on the dash, the incandescent lamp is used as a load to excite the alternator.
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Dervish
8th December 2017, 05:57 PM
Normally those two are the start relay and the start/stop 'EDIC' motor relay. Where does that fused wire from the EDIC motor relay come from?
At a guess, the Jideco relay failed and rather than finding a replacement they've used a conventional relay instead and hidden it somewhere else; probably behind the gauges.
BadCo.
8th December 2017, 07:36 PM
I think the one on the left is an edic relay as well (even has the blade fuse) but can't understand why they just didn't remove the old one.
I think that blade fuse holder is just cable tied there for convenience.
Bearman
8th December 2017, 08:07 PM
I think that blade fuse holder is just cable tied there for convenience.
Yep, all the Perenties are cable tied onto the Jideco relay.
pwillo
11th December 2017, 06:01 PM
So what this means is I may not have a relay for the EDIC motor, it may be a direct connection to the start switch.  ☹️☹️😩
BadCo.
11th December 2017, 06:23 PM
So what this means is I may not have a relay for the EDIC motor, it may be a direct connection to the start switch.  ☹️☹️😩
Oh well, I doubt the EDIC is a massive load and it is only intermittent (turning the ignition on or off). 
Your headlights and their lack of relays is what you should be really worried about :D
pwillo
11th December 2017, 07:05 PM
I will have a better look at the wiring and try and work out if the relay has been bypassed, can’t imagine it being too expensive to replace the relay.  Hope it’s not hiding some other problem.  
The headlights and light bar are running off a Traxide kit I installed shortly after purchase, so no problems there..
BadCo.
11th December 2017, 07:48 PM
I will have a better look at the wiring and try and work out if the relay has been bypassed, can’t imagine it being too expensive to replace the relay.  Hope it’s not hiding some other problem.  
Those two blue things sticking out of the block will probably have a cable between them.
The headlights and light bar are running off a Traxide kit I installed shortly after purchase, so no problems there..
Good man!
Bearman
11th December 2017, 07:49 PM
It is not doing anything, just remove it and problem solved.
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