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Svengali0
8th December 2017, 07:06 PM
I was wondering whether and where to post this item up. I hope that this one response will say what needs to be said re selling something you have put time into.

"Hi (****).
I am here going to proceed to offer summary (of several' messages sent by the enquirer)..
There are several and important differences between a 'buyer' and a
'tourist' These can be readily observed and do not generally require
advanced clinical knowledge or skill to do so.
A tourist is someone that 'maybe' would like perhaps go ahead and purchase
something, that someone else is selling.
A buyer is someone whom knows what they are after even broadly, has
experience and has done what they deem to be sufficient homework.
A tourist on the other hand is essentially decided on prevarication and
presents as overly picky, prone to quick summary, underestimation of the
labour and effort of others. A tourist is in the business of devaluing
until their unreasonable and undisclosed conditions of purchase are met.
Always with the tourist, indecision and devaluing are present at the exact
same time. Rarely are the tourist's conditions met.
A buyer knows that buying a second hand vehicle involves compromises and
priorities. The order of importance on either aspect is interchangeable.
A buyer knows the market profile because they have looked.and performed
their due diligence.
A tourist wants to be fed these things. A tourist feels entitled.
A buyer knows that it is wise to inspect, to gather information and not to
annoy the seller- esp in the case of a vehicle that is rare or hard to get.
A tourist will seek to devalue the item by attacking this very aspect,
stating things like 'transmissions and engines are easily and cheaply
sourced'- and 'one like this sold last month and was much better than your
offering', and 'I'm only enquiring because you omitted detail in your
listing'.
A buyer knows what he is looking for and what he is looking at.
A tourist would be happy with anything that 'looks the part' and is cheaper
than he thinks it is worth. Sometimes tourists do purchase.. though the
item purchased soon loses its sheen. .This will be an enduring aspect of
the Tourist's experience and will likely present across several domains of
functioning.
Given your communication content, this vehicle is not now available to you
for purchase.
I am not and either in any measure rude or anonymous.
i am able to make informed judgement and in the case of your enquiries, I
deem that you are a tourist.
Perhaps, at your leisure, find someone and something else to occupy
yourself please.
If you have a five day old baby, then you should not be looking at an old
tech, crude and nasty item like a Landrover Defender/series/130/90/stage
one or other like vehicle with poor roll over protection and distinct lack
of amenity including safety items that are now de-rigeur for more modern
car. Possibly, a Pajero Mitsubishi, or Toyota Kluger might be safer
options. of course, This involves careful consideration, due diligence and
good judgement about what is right for you. I hope that these formal but
enjoyable cognitive operations are within your capability.
Good luck with your endeavours.
Kind regards
S. A ** psy*75054
'Svengali0' on the AULRO forum where the build was carefully imaged.

ATH
8th December 2017, 09:19 PM
Over the past sales of vehicles, Landies and others, I've encountered all of them. One bloke even bought his kids up just for a ride and another his dog. Both weren't impressed when I said I'd not take them.
Another stuck his nose in the fuel filler "because some people put funny stuff in the fuel" and was peeved when I said "Eff off".
Then there's the bloke who wanted to do a swap with his "grenade" Nisscan and boat and got upset when I told him to put the engine in the boat, go far off shore and take the bung out..... and not to take a life jacket.
For the present 110 I have for sale I've had mostly reasonable people but they varied from a young couple whose children the vehicle would obviously not be suited without mods. to it, another who said he wanted it but his wife didn't like the fact you couldn't change gear like in a sports car.....and yet another who is well known here and others laughed when I told them he'd been round as according to them "his wife is such a snob she'd never ride in anything less than the new Disco or a RR! [bigsmile]
Others object to my wanting a copy of their licence just like a car yard would to cover themselves.
I'm in no hurry, we'll continue to use (when my joints allow) it as it's been a top car for off road trips and has never given a hint of trouble.
You just have to accept when selling that the "gum nutters" and others are a problem you have to put up with.
AlanH.

Bigbjorn
9th December 2017, 12:13 PM
I wholesaled used cars and had a used car yard for short time long ago. We catalogued clients as heads, wood ducks, and *******.

rangieman
9th December 2017, 01:48 PM
I wholesaled used cars and had a used car yard for short time long ago. We catalogued clients as heads, wood ducks, and *******.
Really [bigrolf] i dont catalog car salesman or class them as they are usually well below any scale to judge:Rolling:
But spankers do spring to mind[wink11]

Roverlord off road spares
9th December 2017, 02:09 PM
Really i dont catalog car salesman or class them as they are usually well below any scale to judge:Rolling:
[B]But spankers do spring to mind[wink11]


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spank·er (spăng′kər)n. Nautical A usually gaff-headed sail set from the aftermost lower mast of a sailing ship.

American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2016 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.
spanker (ˈspæŋkə) n1. (Nautical Terms) nautical a fore-and-aft sail or a mast that is aftermost in a sailing vessel
2. informal a person or animal that moves at a quick smart pace
3. informal something outstandingly fine or large

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014
spank•er (ˈspæŋ kər)

n. 1. a. a fore-and-aft sail on the aftermost lower mast of a sailing vessel having three or more masts.
b. the mast abaft a mizzenmast, usu. the aftermost mast in any vessel.

2. one that moves smartly, esp. a fast horse.
[1745–55; akin to spanking (https://www.thefreedictionary.com/spanking)]
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workingonit
9th December 2017, 03:11 PM
This dictionary spoils you for choice...


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Svengali0
9th December 2017, 06:14 PM
spanker

(redirected from Spankers)
Also found in: Thesaurus (https://www.freethesaurus.com/Spankers), Medical (https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Spankers). spanker
spank·er

(spăng′kər)n. Nautical A usually gaff-headed sail set from the aftermost lower mast of a sailing ship.

American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2016 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.
spanker

(ˈspæŋkə) n1. (Nautical Terms) nautical a fore-and-aft sail or a mast that is aftermost in a sailing vessel
2. informal a person or animal that moves at a quick smart pace
3. informal something outstandingly fine or large

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014
spank•er

(ˈspæŋ kər)

n. 1. a. a fore-and-aft sail on the aftermost lower mast of a sailing vessel having three or more masts.
b. the mast abaft a mizzenmast, usu. the aftermost mast in any vessel.

2. one that moves smartly, esp. a fast horse.
[1745–55; akin to spanking (https://www.thefreedictionary.com/spanking)]
Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.


This represents a bit of work..
spankers wood ducks, heads and other nefarious beasts gawd help us..

Homestar
9th December 2017, 07:31 PM
Yeah, I’m not scared to tell tourists to bugger off. Had one recently when selling the X-trail. ****ed around like an old woman, carried on about all sorts of stuff the tried to low ball me. Told him to sod off. He called me a day later and raised his offer - I strung him along and haggled with him then when he said he’d buy it, I told him it was already sold. [emoji6]

Simon
9th December 2017, 08:47 PM
I'm in the east of Sydney, a lady came down from the Blue Mountains, supposedly interested in the car I was selling. She didn't take it for a drive, just got in and sat for 10 minutes before saying it didn't feel right for her. What the....it wasn't a rare vehicle, Nissan sold a gazillion of them, she couldn't find one nearer home to go feng shui in??

ramblingboy42
10th December 2017, 09:41 AM
my eyes hurt from reading that post Svengali.

DeeJay
10th December 2017, 05:58 PM
I used to work with a guy - who had a twin brother- both confirmed bachelors & quite eccentric, whose weekend entertainment was to dress up & test drive different vehicles. Mostly new ones- ie Porsche, BMW, etc but it wasn't beneath them to go to a private seller or used car yard. He used to annoy the hell out of me come Mondays with his bragging & singing the praises of cars he could never afford. I asked if he ever got caught out by Salesmen but it seems they "rotated" the dealers & only a couple of times a salesperson remembered them, they usually said they bought another brand. Melbourne is a big city..
I had a tyre kicker drive a Range Rover I was selling & he put it up to 95 KPH in an 80 zone - straight past a highway police radar. The copper wasn't too impressed with the excuse of just giving it a test drive $ booked him. I offered to take the $$ off the sell price if he bought it which it then became obvious he was never a serious buyer.

ramblingboy42
10th December 2017, 06:31 PM
can this generate (or degenerate) into a car salesman experience thread.....lots of stories to tell....

Homestar
10th December 2017, 06:35 PM
can this generate (or degenerate) into a car salesman experience thread.....lots of stories to tell....

Hell yes as far as I’m concerned!

Svengali0
12th December 2017, 05:31 PM
And this bunch of gems arrived some two days after the reply outlined above. Apparently call and chat is now off the cards..

"I too have been a member on **** for many years.

Your cognitive function of assumption is overpowering you.

At no point have I devalued nor made suggestion of offering a lower price for your Defender, it is actually under my overall budget, otherwise why on earth would I have it up for consideration? That would make no sense at all.

As for my family, a few months ago I purchased a new 2017 Volvo XC60 for my wife, while retaining my very safe all be it modified Land Rover Discovery 4. I expect it is within your capability to understand and agree that both vehicles are perfectly suited to safe family transit.

Not that you've bothered to ask, but I'm purchasing a Defender to replace my single cab farm ute for something that can also accomodate my other older children for both work and play, of which a 4BD1T powered dual cab Defender would be ideal.

Every 6 months a dozen or more of these engines sell cheaply at auction, and you've proven anyone is cable of their installation.

http://www.graysonline.com/sale/5032141/transport-trucks-and-trailers/unreserved-ex-military-vehicle-parts'spr=true

I think perhaps I'll go down the swap out route myself, since it's so easily done, and so many have done it. Though yours of course if the "only one in the world", which in essence it true, you are the only one who as done your car, like so many others have done too.

I won't however have the arrogance or narcism to boast about the build on forums, nor if I go to sell it to market it as an engine with a car attached.

You failed to define 'seller' in your little hissy fit there. Perhaps do some research and edification in that regard and you'll actually come to sell your vehicle. I have the money, though not sufficient information to spend it on this advertisement, it's that "endless detail" that ensures a quick transaction.

Unbelievable, all you needed to do was be helpful, respectful, humble and wait til we could talk. I've already made availability enquiries for someone to inspect it for me, all going well the deal was done, at your asking price... wow man, you work in a weird way!

All the best,
**** "

Turns out that all I needed to do was 'be humble'. I am now apparently a confirmed narcissist for 'boasting' about the build here on Aulro. Apparently the build is terribly easy and anyone can do it. apparently that is what our friend will now proceed to do.
Hope his subscription is up to date. [bighmmm]