View Full Version : What's worse for you, Maccas or Toyotas?
donh54
15th December 2017, 07:03 PM
Yesterday the daughter dropped off the grandkids for the day. Left us with their new (to them) Prado.
Long story short, we were in Maccas, and I started getting some chest pains.
Off to Emergency. All good, sir, it was only a small heart attack! !!!!!
Stabilised and stayed in ICU overnight, followed by an ambulance ride to PA Hospital in Brissy today.
Waiting for the specialist and an angiogram to see if I can get by with a stint or if it needs a bypass.
While I'm waiting, I'm trying to work out whether it's Maccas or Toyotas that are bad for my health. I'm leaning toward the Toyotas, since I just came back from the grain season at Moree, where on a quiet day you can hear the Toyotas rusting away all around you.
trog
15th December 2017, 07:13 PM
I guess it depends on which one has been super sized
rick130
15th December 2017, 07:14 PM
Bugger, that's a bit scary!
A work mate only 50 had a similar experience a month ago.
A balloon and a stent and he's all good.
V8Ian
15th December 2017, 07:32 PM
Look after yourself Don. A mate of mine has just gone through the same. He gets his car licence back on Boxing Day, truck licence after stress testing.
AK83
15th December 2017, 07:38 PM
I reckon the Tojo did it too.
(seems like a whodunnit!) :D
I've survived Maccas on multiple entry and egress undertakings .. lived to tell the tale, so to speak.
But that's a bit of an amplification of the actual truth. Truth be told, I really only enter Maccas for a late night coffee, and or the use of the ablutions.
But the Toyota damned near killed me, and actually partially disabled one of my most used tools the other day.
To start with, and brief convo with my mechanic a dew days prior, ended up in him giving me automotive acquisition advice to the effect that I should just get myself a Toyota.
Having been a dedicated(to my financial disadvantage) Rover vehicle nutcase for 30+ years.. I ignored it as an attempt to boil my blood :D
So the other day, I get a call from my dad, to explain that sisters Rav4 had done it's drive belt(serpentine belt).
Brother in law tried in vain to install the new one, being seemingly too short. Tensioner wouldn't pull back enough to get new one on.
No amount of force would allow more movement in the tensioner, till at some random point it freed past the blocked point and almost allowed enough room to fit new belt.
So obviously the tensioner was bung.
he ordered a new tensioner too .. and a couple of hours of much cursing at the lack of space allowed to remove the tensioner .. I left wishing them all the best with their tojo.
I had kids to feed that night.
BIL got his son to help later that day while I fed my kids on a diet of chook(nice) and roast spuds and a massive salad .. diametrically opposed to the gastronomic evil of the golden arches.
Needless to say no heart attack on my end, other than a few spurious palpitations for a couple of hours, whilst in the vicinity of the Tojo! [bigrolf]
So I reckon you're on the money, re the toyota as the most likely culprit.
best wishes for your issue, as my dad had a recent attack too which ended up in him getting a stent too, and he's lost a lot of his old vigour(even at 80+) since.
donh54
15th December 2017, 07:38 PM
Hopefully I'll be back in the saddle soon - still got a mortgage to pay off!
trog
15th December 2017, 07:49 PM
Take care and avoid those evil arches !
Needless to say , I am of the age where I should really be watching after my own wellbeing more than I do .
Homestar
15th December 2017, 07:56 PM
Definately the Toyota mate - my Mums parter has just had a new valve and bypass yesterday - he drives a Land Cruiser and doesn’t eat Maccas - case closed. [biggrin]
Hope you’re on the mend soon. 👍
Ferret
16th December 2017, 01:00 AM
... we were in Maccas, and I started getting some chest pains.
Over exertion - stop playing on the slippery slides and monkey bars.
trout1105
16th December 2017, 01:27 AM
Maybe it was your previous visits to Macca's that caused the problem?
Kidbeen
16th December 2017, 01:51 AM
Don't they call them 'Mac Attacks! All the best with your recovery.
rick130
16th December 2017, 07:07 AM
Definately the Toyota mate - my Mums parter has just had a new valve and bypass yesterday - he drives a Land Cruiser and doesn’t eat Maccas - case closed. [biggrin]
Hope you’re on the mend soon. 👍
I'm starting to wonder....
My step dad and mum had a 110, then a 130 and then a D2. (although he did drive 'Cruisers for thirty years prior to the 110)
Mum's had a stent and Warwick had a quadruple by-pass two years ago.
I now own their old D2..
I'm now worried.
Causation ? :o
biggin
16th December 2017, 07:35 AM
One is no better than the other, and each can have an adverse affect. Maccas is for those that don't enjoy food. Toyotas are for those that don't enjoy driving. Life's too short for either.
Probably not what you want to hear right now. Get well soon.
AK83
16th December 2017, 09:09 AM
.... (although he did drive 'Cruisers for thirty years prior to the 110)
Mum's had a stent and Warwick had a quadruple by-pass two years ago.
I now own their old D2..
I'm now worried.
Causation ? :o
For sure it was the 30 years prior experience for Warwick.
As for your mum .. just the idea that she's now married to someone with 30 years Tojo experience is what's happened.
I reckon it could be just like any other infectious health issue! [tonguewink]
A few years ago I had a brief drive of my sisters Rav ... I should get a checkup too.
** noting that I've been 'Roverless' for about 4 years prior to my D1.
Don 130
16th December 2017, 08:14 PM
A friend was recently sent for coronary artery calcium ( CAC) testing due to family history. Her results came back very high risk even though she has a excellent diet, exercises regularly, is not over weight, doesn't smoke, and drinks only moderately. All that is because her dad died at about 40 even though he was a super fit nuggety rugby player, and she knew she was up against it. Her GP sent her home with a link to this video (https://youtu.be/aUaInS6HIGo), which she also showed to us.
Have a look. it's cleverly done.
Don.
Roverlord off road spares
16th December 2017, 11:29 PM
Don in all serious take care buddy and hope all is ok.
cheers, Mario
donh54
17th December 2017, 06:52 AM
Thanks for all the good wishes, folks. I'll find out tomorrow (Monday) what the go is. Apparently heart surgeons don't work weekends in Brisbane.
Meanwhile I'm sitting in the PA, making lists of what needs doing on the Rover fleet! I think I'll have some spare time, and it's a way of getting some exercise, by playing the guessing game of "what spanner/socket will I need under there?" And then having to crawl out from underneath the car, go back to the toolbox,and get the right one!
rick130
17th December 2017, 07:30 AM
A friend was recently sent for coronary artery calcium ( CAC) testing due to family history. Her results came back very high risk even though she has a excellent diet, exercises regularly, is not over weight, doesn't smoke, and drinks only moderately. All that is because her dad died at about 40 even though he was a super fit nuggety rugby player, and she knew she was up against it. Her GP sent her home with a link to this video (https://youtu.be/aUaInS6HIGo), which she also showed to us.
Have a look. it's cleverly done.
Don.
My work mate and my step father's problems are hereditary too.
Zeros
17th December 2017, 10:01 AM
Maccas is for those that don't enjoy food. Toyotas are for those that don't enjoy driving. Life's too short for either.
Well put! [thumbsupbig] The character of a Defender definitely equates to the qualities of hand made food. It's a real shame that the hand made vehicle is no longer...because it's so much more satisfying to own and drive!
jon3950
17th December 2017, 09:12 PM
Good luck tomorrow. Hopefully you’ll just end up with a stent - an easy procedure, especially if they go in through the wrist instead of the groin. Even a bypass isn’t the big deal it used to be, although you’ll be sore for a while. I had three stents two years ago after a reasonably serious heart attack and I’m still here.
If the hospital offers a rehab program take it, I found the one I did very worthwhile. The key to a good recovery is excersize. The more you can excersize hopefully the less of the drugs you’ll need in the long term. I’m still trying to deal with the side effects of the drugs but if you have issues get your cardiologist try different ones and do whatever you can to get off beta blockers - they are evil. Again excersize is the key.
Two years down the track, I still have hard days. Listen to what your body tells you and don’t overdo things, especially in the early days. I have found I just don’t have the energy I used to, but life is still good. I think having a mild heart attack can be a lucky thing. Take it as an early warning and you’ll have a much better chance of avoiding a more serious one.
If you want to know any more or just want to talk to someone about it, send me a pm.
Cheers,
Jon
Tins
17th December 2017, 09:38 PM
Know a bloke who found it hard to climb stairs, couldn't do much at all. They did some sort of blood test which showed he had had a couple of small heart attacks, popped in a couple of stents, yep, through the groin, now he beats people at tennis. He'd be 60 odd.
As for the Tojo/Maccas thing: I have two family members who have Tojos, and I'll tolerate them ( the Prius is far harder for me than the Prado ), but Maccas? I wouldn't feed that to a dog. In my coach driving days Maccas would have fed me for free. I always declined.
All the best, Don. Come back and share the grisly details...
cuppabillytea
17th December 2017, 10:54 PM
Stay off the sugar Don. Wine instead of Beer.
We have a Radio Station in Sydney: Nova 969 which is Mackas for the ears.
DiscoMick
18th December 2017, 07:12 AM
Hope you get good news today.
Cut down on the Maccas, particularly salt and fat.
Toyota's are just boring, which probably isn't fatal.
donh54
20th December 2017, 06:34 AM
Brief update. Had angiogram yesterday, seems I'm a borderline bypass case. The boss of heart surgery is going to have a chat with me sometime today to go over the options. As far as I know at this point, one option will involve 4 or 5 weeks off work, the other about 3 months off, before I go through the process of getting my commercial license reinstated. Further updates to follow once I've consulted the experts.
Tins
20th December 2017, 08:51 AM
Brief update. Had angiogram yesterday, seems I'm a borderline bypass case. The boss of heart surgery is going to have a chat with me sometime today to go over the options. As far as I know at this point, one option will involve 4 or 5 weeks off work, the other about 3 months off, before I go through the process of getting my commercial license reinstated. Further updates to follow once I've consulted the experts.
Quite likely better news than you think. What they do these days is nothing short of miraculous. Do EVERYTHING they tell you to, especially in regards to diet, and many more years of happy life await you.
All the best to you Don.
DiscoMick
20th December 2017, 08:59 AM
Yep, a friend had a double bypass and was rejuvenated.
jon3950
20th December 2017, 12:29 PM
3 months is nothing in the overall scheme of things. Obviously take their advice but don’t back away from anything - take the maximum treatment on offer. As John said, these guys perform miracles.
Catalyst did a program on heart surgery earlier this year which is probably still on iview. I highly recommend watching it.
This is all a bit confronting and whatever happens from here there will be stuff that you will be dealing with for the rest of life. This is so much better than the alternative though.
I truly think we are the lucky ones. An early warning to get the chance to address any lifestyle issues and you’re now in the system. I now see my cardiologist every 6 months so we can stay on top of any issues and maximise my chances of living to a decent age.
What a great way to spend Christmas though - mine happened on day 2 of a week in the High Country so I feel your pain. Still, if this is going to happen you’re in the best place for it.
Again, good luck.
Cheers,
Jon
donh54
20th December 2017, 01:43 PM
Well, the word has come from on high - bypass surgery on Friday. All going to plan should be out in a week or so. Then the recovery begins!
Home for New Years Eve is a hell of a lot better than a Xmas funeral!
Thanks for all the advice and well wishes. Now to work on the recovery!
Markf
20th December 2017, 04:00 PM
Well, the word has come from on high - bypass surgery on Friday. All going to plan should be out in a week or so. Then the recovery begins!
Home for New Years Eve is a hell of a lot better than a Xmas funeral!
Thanks for all the advice and well wishes. Now to work on the recovery!
A couple of years ago an old mate of mine was complaining of feeling "not quite right" for a couple of months until his wife got sick of it and made an early morning doc appointment for him and took him to it (otherwise he'd never go). Upshot was that he had a quad bypass before the day was done. Ever since he's been telling anyone who feels a bit "off" to "get yer pipes done". He did EXACTLY what he was told and after about 10 months of recovery and rehab plus a few lifestyle changes had his MC licence back and eased back into work driving B-Doubles and road trains. He's still working and has just turned 71.
AS someone else said - they can perform miracles these days.
All the best for a speedy and uneventful recovery. Just do as you're told and you'll be fine.
V8Ian
20th December 2017, 04:37 PM
It's like an in-frame rebuild, Don. [biggrin]
Don 130
20th December 2017, 08:02 PM
All the very best on Friday Don, and a hasty recovery afterwards.
Don.
V8Ian
22nd December 2017, 06:42 AM
All the best for your op today, Don. We will understand if you don't post until tomorrow.
donh54
22nd December 2017, 07:11 AM
I go in around 9:30 - 10:00 am and they tell me 3 to 5 hours depending how things go :-)
Thanks for all the well-wishes and I'll update tomorrow.
V8Ian
22nd December 2017, 07:22 AM
My mate who had the same done three weeks ago, sends his best and said to tell you, the pain only lasts a week.
Tins
22nd December 2017, 07:32 AM
All the best, Don.
donh54
22nd December 2017, 07:32 AM
My mate who had the same done three weeks ago, sends his best and said to tell you, the pain only lasts a week.
Gee thanks - I think!
V8Ian
22nd December 2017, 07:42 AM
It was meant to encourage you, Don. [biggrin]
donh54
22nd December 2017, 08:12 AM
I guess it's all relative. LOL
loanrangie
22nd December 2017, 10:28 AM
Good luck Don. I think one leads to the other, you drive a Toyota and you give up on life so you resort to eating at Macca's - its a slippery slope of depravity.
donh54
22nd December 2017, 03:56 PM
Well, I never did like "bleeding hearts" but now I dislike them even more! All starved, shaved and showered, and in my little purple party dress (with the peekaboo back), and not one, but two heart bleeds turn up! Result is that me and my mate in the next bed get bumped off the top of the list.
Fortunately, the two emergencies turned out ok, (one was in theatre for 17 hours and is still very, very sick).
Upshot is, they'll have me fasting from midnight each night, until they know if they can squeeze me in somewhere.
Reminds me of the army system of "Hurry up and wait"!
donh54
22nd December 2017, 03:59 PM
Good luck Don. I think one leads to the other, you drive a Toyota and you give up on life so you resort to eating at Macca's - its a slippery slope of depravity.
That little snippet should be taught in schools across the land!
Tins
22nd December 2017, 04:00 PM
Well, I never did like "bleeding hearts" but now I dislike them even more! All starved, shaved and showered, and in my little purple party dress (with the peekaboo back), and not one, but two heart bleeds turn up! Result is that me and my mate in the next bed get bumped off the top of the list.
Fortunately, the two emergencies turned out ok, (one was in theatre for 17 hours and is still very, very sick).
Upshot is, they'll have me fasting from midnight each night, until they know if they can squeeze me in somewhere.
Reminds me of the army system of "Hurry up and wait"!
Or, greatcoats on, greatcoats off.
UncleHo
23rd December 2017, 10:39 AM
I had a minor heart attack in late 2000,long weekend in May 2001 into "Prince Charles" and quad by-pass,the first thing I noticed on coming around was that my ears and feet were the same temperature as the rest of me, best thing that could happen to me,4 days in and home on the 5th,but the exercise,walking 3klm a day was hard to start with,seeing I use a w/stick,but 17 years on am still going OK. I don't drink except for the odd scotch or 2, just do what the Dr says best of luck and you will enjoy many more Christmases to come.
cheers
donh54
2nd January 2018, 08:29 AM
Well, quadruple bypass on Friday, back in the CCU ward Saturday, and they're sending me home tomorrow.
Absolutely astounding what they can do, and the levels of professionalism shown by all staff, from the ER in Warwick, through the Theatre, CCU and ICU at the PA, has been outstanding.
A new year and a new lease on life, with lots more Landy miles to come! How good is that?!
Bytemrk
2nd January 2018, 08:37 AM
Great to hear Don, it is truly amazing what modern medicine can do.
Now as UncleHo suggested - do what the quacks tell you and I'm sure you will have plenty of time to ponder whether Maccas or Toyotas caused all of this mess....
If I was you, I'd avoid both just in case. [wink11]
Homestar
3rd January 2018, 05:04 AM
Good to hear it all went well. [emoji106]
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