Bigbjorn
21st December 2017, 09:03 AM
I recently enquired of Qld. Dept. of Transport & Main Roads if there were any plans to extend or modify the concessional registration scheme in light of the log book schemes operating in Victoria and NSW.
Here is the reply.
"In relation to changes to the SIV registration concession scheme, I wish to advise that TMR meets biannually with motoring organisations through the Motoring Organisation and Car Club (MOCC) forum. This forum provides an avenue for industry discussion about vehicle registration requirements under the SIV registration concession scheme. Representatives at the MOCC forum cover over 113 motoring clubs and more than 13,000 members. The option to introduce a log book system similar to Victoria and NSW has previously been considered by industry through TMR’s MOCC forum however, there was unanimous support from industry representatives to retain the scheme in its current state."
In about 2011 I was a delegate to one of these fora. The principal items discussed were police targeting and police harassment. This was from the Street Rodders and Street Machine and Custom Car clubs who expressed considerable concern about the numerous complaints from what their members saw as targeting and harassment of certain types of vehicle and certain events. The police traffic branch said their duty was to enforce the road rules, apply the law, and would continue to do so. That they would continue to target groups and events where there was a history of non-compliance. end of discussion.
Next was a long and mostly pointless discussion re aspects of the concessional scheme. Some minor changes and fine tuning was agreed to. The clubs in general are happy to have a scheme, any scheme, and are not willing to rock the boat. The Dept has intimated that the scheme exists principally because of the National Code of Practice to which the Dept (and all others) pay lip service. The bureaucrats consider the scheme serves no useful purpose, is something extra to administer, and costs the Govt. money by discounting registration to a relatively small number of people. The dept has said many times that it is not going to act as the membership police on behalf of the clubs and will continue to re-register SI vehicles without proof of current financial membership. This is up to the clubs to collect.
Last item was from the representative of a small noisy group who have been pushing the idea of a "Collector Plate" for some time. Their proposal is for one (or a pair) number plate to be issued to a collector/hobbyist which could be put on any SI vehicle they owned whenever they wanted to drive it. This will never get anywhere. Such a scheme is totally opposed by the CTP insurers and the Dept. and the police. It would require changes to insurance law and the Traffic Act. Not going to happen. The instigator and button pusher of this idea was a delegate from a one make club and gave his usual spiel about his pet scheme. He talks about people who have numerous vehicles but can not afford to register and use them. A collector plate would be advantageous to these. One of the more senior bureaucrats looked over his half-glasses ans asked 'Mr. xxxxxx, how many SI vehicles do you own/" The answer came quickly, " fifteen". The riposte "perhaps you could sell two or three of them and thus afford to register the rest." End of discussion.
Here is the reply.
"In relation to changes to the SIV registration concession scheme, I wish to advise that TMR meets biannually with motoring organisations through the Motoring Organisation and Car Club (MOCC) forum. This forum provides an avenue for industry discussion about vehicle registration requirements under the SIV registration concession scheme. Representatives at the MOCC forum cover over 113 motoring clubs and more than 13,000 members. The option to introduce a log book system similar to Victoria and NSW has previously been considered by industry through TMR’s MOCC forum however, there was unanimous support from industry representatives to retain the scheme in its current state."
In about 2011 I was a delegate to one of these fora. The principal items discussed were police targeting and police harassment. This was from the Street Rodders and Street Machine and Custom Car clubs who expressed considerable concern about the numerous complaints from what their members saw as targeting and harassment of certain types of vehicle and certain events. The police traffic branch said their duty was to enforce the road rules, apply the law, and would continue to do so. That they would continue to target groups and events where there was a history of non-compliance. end of discussion.
Next was a long and mostly pointless discussion re aspects of the concessional scheme. Some minor changes and fine tuning was agreed to. The clubs in general are happy to have a scheme, any scheme, and are not willing to rock the boat. The Dept has intimated that the scheme exists principally because of the National Code of Practice to which the Dept (and all others) pay lip service. The bureaucrats consider the scheme serves no useful purpose, is something extra to administer, and costs the Govt. money by discounting registration to a relatively small number of people. The dept has said many times that it is not going to act as the membership police on behalf of the clubs and will continue to re-register SI vehicles without proof of current financial membership. This is up to the clubs to collect.
Last item was from the representative of a small noisy group who have been pushing the idea of a "Collector Plate" for some time. Their proposal is for one (or a pair) number plate to be issued to a collector/hobbyist which could be put on any SI vehicle they owned whenever they wanted to drive it. This will never get anywhere. Such a scheme is totally opposed by the CTP insurers and the Dept. and the police. It would require changes to insurance law and the Traffic Act. Not going to happen. The instigator and button pusher of this idea was a delegate from a one make club and gave his usual spiel about his pet scheme. He talks about people who have numerous vehicles but can not afford to register and use them. A collector plate would be advantageous to these. One of the more senior bureaucrats looked over his half-glasses ans asked 'Mr. xxxxxx, how many SI vehicles do you own/" The answer came quickly, " fifteen". The riposte "perhaps you could sell two or three of them and thus afford to register the rest." End of discussion.