Riddle me this.............

[350RRC]

Have handshake sold the white 77 2 door I have, has 4.4 race motor, etc.

Haven't started it for a few months. Won't spin fast enough with electrical help from the red 350 one. Motor can be turned by hand with a socket in the balancer with a bar, easier than doing the same with 350 .

Pulled the Lucas starter out of it and functions fine with no load. Cleaned all the electrical connections, including all earths.

Even with big mofo jumper cables (which do get warm) hooked up very adjacent to the starter it just groans over.

Thinking it may be the contacts from the solenoid to the starter being dirty.

Can't tow start it coz it has 35's atm and is in a difficult spot......... needs the motor running to get the power steering going.

Am I on the right track?

thanks , DL

[rangieman]

This will help you in the right direction[bigwhistle]
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/01/89.jpg

[bee utey]

If it's a P76 original starter, undo the two long bolts holding it together and the solenoid connection and open it up. The brushes push against the armature and don't require special handling. Dose the bushes liberally with engine oil and clean out any dust. I used to do this to my P76 starter every couple of years to keep it spinning happily.

If it's an English Lucas starter, well the best thing to do is steal a Bosch starter.

Oh and ignore the goon with the incendiaries.

[350RRC]

This will help you in the right direction[bigwhistle]
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/01/89.jpg

Looks like you've already used a few of the contents already Chris, by the marks on the side of the box.

IME Redheads always cause problems and I was never a fan, even with the lights off. [wink11]

cheers mate, DL

[350RRC]

If it's a P76 original starter, undo the two long bolts holding it together and the solenoid connection and open it up. The brushes push against the armature and don't require special handling. Dose the bushes liberally with engine oil and clean out any dust. I used to do this to my P76 starter every couple of years to keep it spinning happily.

If it's an English Lucas starter, well the best thing to do is steal a Bosch starter.

Oh and ignore the goon with the incendiaries.

Thanks Jilden,

Looks to be a standard RRC etc Lucas starter. The contacts are the only thing I can think of that would cause this. Used to start fine when I fired it up every week.

Have a full schematic of the starter and words from a workshop manual so I'm not flying blind here.

Will put a linked vid up on da Toob when I get it going, the note is awesome.

cheers, DL

[Roverlord off road spares]

Looks like you've already used a few of the contents already Chris, by the marks on the side of the box.

IME Redheads always cause problems and I was never a fan, even with the lights off. [wink11]

cheers mate, DL


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[AK83]

I'm pretty sure that rangieman had the incorrect 'indendiaries'!!

134510

[tonguewink]

[V8Ian]

Take the flat battery out of the equation, it's robbing power.

[350RRC]

Battery replaced now, no change.

New starter on the way. Old one is a RRC starter and the block has been fitted with the spacer ring to suit.

cheers, DL

[350RRC]

New starter in (Bosch clone, $139 from Auto8 in Wang inc postage)

Fired straight up after 18 months, with fuel the same age.

Lifters a bit rattly, misfire at idle. Figured a couple of leads wrong (my fault from trying to sort out why it was hard to turn over).

Sorted that out easily, a few revs and lifter noise gone......... settles down to a perfect idle. Could sit a mug of tea on a rocker cover and it wouldn't move. Has electronic ign and iridium plugs.

Give it some herbs and it just roars.......... extractors and 3" mandrel exhaust.

Starting to think I'm crazy selling this but the 350 in the red one needs a rebuild after 700k kms ish.

To put this 4.4 in I'd need a flexplate and a convertor to mate to the C9. Gave the original one to Autoflite when they made the one to mate the Chev to the C9. Wouldn't go back to a manual.

Would need to put back original rover engine mounts (no biggie) but then get the new engine number inspected @ V/roads..........can of worms........sagging headlining, fading paint etc.

DL

[rangieman]

New starter in (Bosch clone, $139 from Auto8 in Wang inc postage)

Fired straight up after 18 months, with fuel the same age.

Lifters a bit rattly, misfire at idle. Figured a couple of leads wrong (my fault from trying to sort out why it was hard to turn over).

Sorted that out easily, a few revs and lifter noise gone......... settles down to a perfect idle. Could sit a mug of tea on a rocker cover and it wouldn't move. Has electronic ign and iridium plugs.

Give it some herbs and it just roars.......... extractors and 3" mandrel exhaust.

Starting to think I'm crazy selling this but the 350 in the red one needs a rebuild after 700k kms ish.

To put this 4.4 in I'd need a flexplate and a convertor to mate to the C9. Gave the original one to Autoflite when they made the one to mate the Chev to the C9. Wouldn't go back to a manual.

Would need to put back original rover engine mounts (no biggie) but then get the new engine number inspected @ V/roads..........can of worms........sagging headlining, fading paint etc.

DL
Dam i had the Marshmallows packed for the trip down as well [bigwhistle]