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[discopete]

Hi guys,
after some information on this little project. The engine has been removed and is sitting with another. I'm hoping it was the original engine that was removed and would like to know if possible to get necessary details of the vehicle to help ID the correct engine. The car number is R06111800 which I've determined is a 1950 vehicle, although not sure if it will be a 1.6 or 2L engine. Completely new to Series 1s so any input/advice appreciated.

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[The ho har's]

Now that is a project :) 1.6 ltr

Mrs hh

[67hardtop]

Spit n polish....come up like new

[discopete]

Yes, it would be a big project! If bulkhead and chassis weren't in good condition I probably would have left it with it's relatives. I'll put it in storage for a rainy day.

Peter

[B.S.F.]

Before you start spending any money on this car, get yourself a Workshop manual and a Parts cataloue. You'll get your money back in no time by not wasting it on incorrect parts.
.W.

[discopete]

Thanks for the input so far. Just to clarify, this is a possible future project and no money will be directed it's way for some time! The pressing matter is trying to get the correct engine, if it is there. Is it possible to find out what engine number it left factory with?

Peter

[Tote]

The engine number ranges are in the picture below

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Judging from that I would suggest that the engine number would be pretty close to the car number. Info taken from the service manual.

Regards,
Tote

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi guys,
after some information on this little project. The engine has been removed and is sitting with another. I'm hoping it was the original engine that was removed and would like to know if possible to get necessary details of the vehicle to help ID the correct engine. The car number is R06111800 which I've determined is a 1950 vehicle, although not sure if it will be a 1.6 or 2L engine. Completely new to Series 1s so any input/advice appreciated.

Peter<5 images removed>
Hi Peter

All that I can tell you is that your R06111800 would have had the 1595cc engine which would have probably been in the engine number range 0f 06112150 through 06112300 it would be the square sump type.

It would have been delivered to its original owner in September 1950.

The following is a summary of the most recent modifications present on your original engine.
06111606 The three long bolts holding the thermostat housing to the cylinder head are changed from being the special type which can hold the engine governor, part No. 232955 to being three normal bolts 5/16 x 11/16" long
06112001 The oil filter inlet and out let pipes changed. I think that they were lengthened a little so that it would make the oil filter easier to remove. The fan pulley was changed from being the type with two grooves, one for the fan belt and the other for the engine governor drive belt, part No. 218563, to being the type with one groove, part No. 230492 except when an engine governor is fitted and then two belt pulley is used.
06115161 The thermostat housing changed from being the type with two plugs on the left hand side, one for the heater pipe and the other for the temperature gauge sender, part No. 212379 to being the type with no extra plugs, part No. 233483. If you wish to fit a heater or a temperature gauge then you need to get one of the thermostat housings with the two plugs.

[discopete]

Thanks Tote and Lotz-A-Landies, great information that should narrow it down a bit. I'll contact previous owner today and find out what numbers he has there.

Peter

[discopete]

And for those poking fun at my "little" project, this is the vehicle I went to inspect. Still lots of work but at least it runs and drives. [bigsmile1] I don't have any numerical details for her but believe it's a 53 model. The 50 model I discovered amongst parts vehicles on the property and whilst a big project I thought I best not leave it there.
Looking forward to getting them home and getting to know what Series 1 ownership is all about.

Peter


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[LR1953]

Peter,
It looks like a '53 to me, I've got one. The cab roof appears to be steel and therefore a (non-genuine!) improvisation. More pics would be most welcome, outside, inside, under the bonnet. Good luck with this project!
Cheers, Rob S

[discopete]

Peter,
It looks like a '53 to me, I've got one. The cab roof appears to be steel and therefore a (non-genuine!) improvisation. More pics would be most welcome, outside, inside, under the bonnet. Good luck with this project!
Cheers, Rob S

Hi Rob, yes figured the roof was an added extra. This is all I have until I get her home. I'll add some more then. All looks good under hood and hopefully its the original engine.


Peter

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[discopete]

This is one of the possibilities for the 50 model engine. Do the 1.6 and 2L look the same. Still chasing up engine number.

Peter

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[LR1953]

Peter the engine pic is of a 1600 engine. The 2 litre engine has a breather toward the front on top of the inlet valve cover, in your pic there's an outlet at the back of that casting, that takes a hose which goes back to the induction system. Compare your pic with the engine in the '53 you'll see the differences. The other obvious difference is on the exhaust side of the engine; 1600's have a cast alloy cover over the exhaust valves/rockers, which incorporates the oil filler tube with an alloy screw cap. On the 2 litre version this component is fabricated steel topped with a removable breather/oil filler cap. I'm looking at James Taylor's "Original Land-Rover Series 1" (1996) as I write. It's a great reference. You might get a copy second-hand through ABE Books, or the Book Depository (new) in the UK ISBN 1 870979 72 9.
I note in the shots of the '53 that the handrail normally bolted to the firewall in the cab has found its way up on to the rear of roof - presumably for the use of shooters standing in the tub.
Cheers, Rob S

[discopete]

Peter the engine pic is of a 1600 engine. The 2 litre engine has a breather toward the front on top of the inlet valve cover, in your pic there's an outlet at the back of that casting, that takes a hose which goes back to the induction system. Compare your pic with the engine in the '53 you'll see the differences. The other obvious difference is on the exhaust side of the engine; 1600's have a cast alloy cover over the exhaust valves/rockers, which incorporates the oil filler tube with an alloy screw cap. On the 2 litre version this component is fabricated steel topped with a removable breather/oil filler cap. I'm looking at James Taylor's "Original Land-Rover Series 1" (1996) as I write. It's a great reference. You might get a copy second-hand through ABE Books, or the Book Depository (new) in the UK ISBN 1 870979 72 9.
I note in the shots of the '53 that the handrail normally bolted to the firewall in the cab has found its way up on to the rear of roof - presumably for the use of shooters standing in the tub.
Cheers, Rob S

Thanks Rob. I've contacted previous owner and now await the engine number. At least we are headed in right direction with it being a 1.6. I have a decent collection of Range Rover references but sadly lacking in the Series department. I will take your advice and get straight onto that. I hadn't notice the position of the handrail on the 53. I thought they may be on earlier models only.

Peter